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I'm not too ready to go nuke all of my apps and data without being able to back them up properly. Hopefully the other group will have a method that doesn't involve completely flashing a new image so I can use Titanium Backup before flashing any custom ROMs.
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I'm not too ready to go nuke all of my apps and data without being able to back them up properly. Hopefully the other group will have a method that doesn't involve completely flashing a new image so I can use Titanium Backup before flashing any custom ROMs.
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on every other phone, when gaining root access it requires a hard reset. better to root in the beginning.
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on every other phone, when gaining root access it requires a hard reset. better to root in the beginning.
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Really? I'm pretty sure I didn't have to factory-reset to root my Hero. I've also had my EVO for over a week, so everything is already installed and organized.
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I'm not too ready to go nuke all of my apps and data without being able to back them up properly. Hopefully the other group will have a method that doesn't involve completely flashing a new image so I can use Titanium Backup before flashing any custom ROMs.
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If i understand this, rooting does not require any flashing, so you can root , install titanium back up, and then when a custom rom is ready you can flash it.
I will check the grack one out, but I am 80% sure I am going with the one from awesome guys here.
The other group of devs are using a exploit in sprint\htc software. They are going to release the info on the exploit to sprint\htc in 1 week after release. So say goodbye to your other root. I am pretty sure toast root is from a rom thats for engineering purposes. So the root should stay working. Don't quote me on this but I am pretty sure this is correct info.
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The other group of devs are using a exploit in sprint\htc software. They are going to release the info on the exploit to sprint\htc in 1 week after release. So say goodbye to your other root. I am pretty sure toast root is from a rom thats for engineering purposes. So the root should stay working. Don't quote me on this but I am pretty sure this is correct info.
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I'm lost here, who are "The other group", the guys from grack.com??
mikevillarroel said:
I'm lost here, who are "The other group", the guys from grack.com??
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yes the other group of devs is grack.com
shep211 said:
yes the other group of devs is grack.com
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They have made this web http://unrevoked.com/ and it's suppose to go live tomorrow, if so......what do we do, root as toast did or root as they will?
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They have made this web http://unrevoked.com/ and it's suppose to go live tomorrow, if so......what do we do, root as toast did or root as they will?
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they still dont have "sticky root" or the ability to flash custom roms and such. ur gonna need to use my method for that until we figure out nand protection and how to exploit it. i think they are only releasing their root method as a "proof of concept" or t show how easy it was to gain root perms on the stock build. it will most likely not be the replacement for my method. i talk with them a bit and its just in hopes that both methods together could possible bring a nand exploit to life.
At this point I am waiting as I don't see any reason to root. I can't use titanium backup and frankly don't care about themes or additional roms. OOTB is fast as hell.
Once full system access is achieved, or a fully functional Froyo ROM is available, then I will root.
Just my observation, but I alway ERR on the side of caution.
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If i understand this, rooting does not require any flashing, so you can root , install titanium back up, and then when a custom rom is ready you can flash it.
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The first thing you do is flash an image to your phone that overwrites your current ROM.
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The other group of devs are using a exploit in sprint\htc software. They are going to release the info on the exploit to sprint\htc in 1 week after release. So say goodbye to your other root. I am pretty sure toast root is from a rom thats for engineering purposes. So the root should stay working. Don't quote me on this but I am pretty sure this is correct info.
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I was hoping that I'd get the ability to access recovery and flash new ROMs with theirs, so then I could just flash a custom ROM with normal root anyways. According to toast, this doesn't seem to be the case...
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they still dont have "sticky root" or the ability to flash custom roms and such. ur gonna need to use my method for that until we figure out nand protection and how to exploit it. i think they are only releasing their root method as a "proof of concept" or t show how easy it was to gain root perms on the stock build. it will most likely not be the replacement for my method. i talk with them a bit and its just in hopes that both methods together could possible bring a nand exploit to life.
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Really? I thought sticky-root was one of the items on their checklist to accomplish before release.
Does anyone happen to know if I can backup apps with a non-root required app then restore them and use Titanium Backup's Market Doctor to fix their Market entries? The lack of backing up Market links is the only reason I don't use other backup apps.
Bielinsk said:
At this point I am waiting as I don't see any reason to root. I can't use titanium backup and frankly don't care about themes or additional roms. OOTB is fast as hell.
Once full system access is achieved, or a fully functional Froyo ROM is available, then I will root.
Just my observation, but I alway ERR on the side of caution.
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just dont flash or except any updates from sprint. those could possibly ruin ur chances of root ever.
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they still dont have "sticky root" or the ability to flash custom roms and such. ur gonna need to use my method for that until we figure out nand protection and how to exploit it. i think they are only releasing their root method as a "proof of concept" or t show how easy it was to gain root perms on the stock build. it will most likely not be the replacement for my method. i talk with them a bit and its just in hopes that both methods together could possible bring a nand exploit to life.
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just dont flash or except any updates from sprint. those could possibly ruin ur chances of root ever.
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how can we avoid this updates from sprint?
Sorry if my questions sound stupid but i'm just learning here man! .
mikevillarroel said:
how can we avoid this updates from sprint?
Sorry if my questions sound stupid but i'm just learning here man! .
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Most custom roms will remove the OTA update feature. Only stock roms will have this feature. If you are on a stock rom and update is available you can decline it also.
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just dont flash or except any updates from sprint. those could possibly ruin ur chances of root ever.
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Very wise advice. I have HTC updates turned off. Not sure if there is any place to disable Sprint updates.
Also on ANY piece of electronics you have to give your consent for any update to be applied, so even with the stock ROM you can decline updates.
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... even with the stock ROM you can decline updates.
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Where would one go to decline this? Is there a setting I can just set now, and forget, (how?) or will I need to decline every time?
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Where would one go to decline this? Is there a setting I can just set now, and forget, (how?) or will I need to decline every time?
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Unless you are rooted you will continue to get that notification, its quite annoying.
Seriously, I know you guys hate noob posts, that been covered 1000x before.... but, my phone just arrived! This site is very large and scary... if someone could point me to a how to guide and a recommended rom... I would appreciate it.
Thx
THE BEST PLACE to start is: http://www.youtube.com/user/HTCShowMe
uh, thx?
I meant for rooting, custom roms etc... but thx either way.
Try this http://hemorrdroids.net/overclock-undervolt-your-desire-hd/
You can look for custom roms in the Dev section. There are other guides in there too.
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uh, thx?
I meant for rooting, custom roms etc... but thx either way.
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First you should decide why you need to root or flash custom roms. If you find out you should also make sure that you know "how to do" steps for rooting transactions.
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First you should decide why you need to root or flash custom roms. If you find out you should also make sure that you know "how to do" steps for rooting transactions.
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Sage advice, my thoughts, apply the current OTA update and see how you get on with it as stock, then when you know where you stand think about modding it, Visionary (from Paul at modaco) will attain temp root for you to expirement with and see what root will give you without risk and can apply permanent root when and if its required. Main advice is enjoy your new phone
BTW hold off applying any future OTA updates until they have been examined, as I believe the latest Incredible OTA closes off many of the current root exploits
I would play around with it first before rooting. This way you can see what you think is missing and choose the rom you want accordingly
Agreed and thanks for the concern
I got the same advice when I posted about my nexus one..... 3 days later, I rooted! Wish I read that comment about ota
first though.....
I'll hold off a cooked days as I might not keep it, having no 3g is tough, camera doesn't seem very good and the speaker sound is very tingy.... it has proved I missed Android but this might not be the phone for me
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As we know, now we have a clockworkmod port for our Desire HD. It is fully functional and working. It is an awesome thing to be able to flash a custom rom and kernels onto our device.
but the question is, will there be a one click solution or a simpler way to have a custom recovery without downgrading to ENG hboot like now is required to push a custom recovery onto our device..
- will Desire HD have a total ROM Manager support as in just install clockworkmod recovery via ROM Manager like HTC Desire and others?
- or will there be something like Unrevoked where its a one click of having a total free custom recovery onto our device..
the issue is, not everyone is smart enough to perform the risky hboot downgrade and pushing clockwork manually.. a simpler solution would be very handy. This is so that newcommers could just root via Visionary perma root and then sorta like download rom manager via market and then just install CWM without downgrading hboot
Thanks for your answers
I doubt it very much....maybe rom manager will recognised the
DHD from default.
A clockwork app mmm usful..
But again I cant see it..
Root
S 0FF
Android SDK
Fastboot/adb shell
Clockwork
Thats the way I went...I do agree that an easier method would help the newbies..
What is needed is an all in one app - Now that would be fun to build..
I think the Devs are far to busy with custom roms and kernels hahaha
Not as Im complaining...
We'll see...
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I doubt it very much....maybe rom manager will recognised the
DHD from default.
A clockwork app mmm usful..
But again I cant see it..
Root
S 0FF
Android SDK
Fastboot/adb shell
Clockwork
Thats the way I went...I do agree that an easier method would help the newbies..
What is needed is an all in one app - Now that would be fun to build..
I think the Devs are far to busy with custom roms and kernels hahaha
Not as Im complaining...
We'll see...
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btw, why does clockwork needs to be pushed rather than like previously a device (htc desire) clockworkmod can be installed via using rom manager directly.. is it that rom manager still dosent support Desire HD?
true indeed, a click by click software that automates like unrevoked would be very handy.. afterall.. not everyone is an advanced user to perform those brick risking methods
I also wish an easyer way was possible as I really want to push a custom Rom and kernal but just a kernal will do for me. Is there any you tube videos that show you step by step to put a kernal on dhd? If not would some1 find the time to do this? This would help newbies like myself to feel more comfortable.
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btw, why does clockwork needs to be pushed rather than like previously a device (htc desire) clockworkmod can be installed via using rom manager directly.. is it that rom manager still dosent support Desire HD?
true indeed, a click by click software that automates like unrevoked would be very handy.. afterall.. not everyone is an advanced user to perform those brick risking methods
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Yes that right,no support yet, its early days and Im sure things will get easier as time goes by.
rixsta said:
Yes that right,no support yet, its early days and Im sure things will get easier as time goes by.
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or is it that clockworkmod really need an engineering bootloader to work on desire HD.. i really hope that there would be a simpler way..
What's the noob friendliest way to just remove some stock apps (amazon,sound hound,Twitter,etc)? I reckon I need to do a root at least, but can't seem to work out what else I need to do. Cheers.
Mojo Fones said:
What's the noob friendliest way to just remove some stock apps (amazon,sound hound,Twitter,etc)? I reckon I need to do a root at least, but can't seem to work out what else I need to do. Cheers.
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use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
Excellent, thank you very much.
override182 said:
use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
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I have a feeling you need clockwork recovery too...
override182 said:
use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
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Worked perfectly with just a temp root, oh sorry for the hijacking override.
Mojo Fones said:
Worked perfectly with just a temp root, oh sorry for the hijacking override.
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happy to see it worked out for you.. its ok mate.. no big deal at all..
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I have a feeling you need clockwork recovery too...
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No, permaroot via visionary and titanium backup as removal will work fine without CW, beware though take apps out of your /system folder may cause future OTA upgrades to fail when they try and upgrade apps that are no longer present
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No, permaroot via visionary and titanium backup as removal will work fine without CW, beware though take apps out of your /system folder may cause future OTA upgrades to fail when they try and upgrade apps that are no longer present
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indeed.. i almost forgot about that...
this thread is dying
Not ony that, I do recall having read that removing those system apps does not give you free space to use, so there is no big reason why you should do it....
On topic:
I have my DHD now for a couple of weeks.....never had android before....I had overclocked my DHD when kamma released one of his kernels and visionary temp root was available It worked fine.
Now I have been out for 1,5 week and just continued reading again the day before yesterday.
I must say, I do read the topic I am interested in completely, so (almost) every post, just to get a feeling of potential issues or get some idea of what to do, if...
So although I am new to android, the great threats in the developer forum have given me a reasonable understanding of what to do, how to do it, and what risk there is.
With that, I have perm rooted my DHD, got S-off, installed clockwork mod and flashed leedroid's rom on my DHD. All done yesterday and the day before, without problem.
Am now considering if I will OC again of just leave it as is for now....
just read carefully, don;t just take the 1st post in the dev section, but read through the topic to understand potential issues....The topic creator is in now way responsible for you not reading properly or failing to understand the implications.
But Yes, a one click solution would be handy, although I prefer to have it done this way, as I now have a little better understanding of what actually happens, rather than, hey, I flashed this rom ...
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Not ony that, I do recall having read that removing those system apps does not give you free space to use, so there is no big reason why you should do it....
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if you remove those system apps, won't it help in booting up the phone faster? and probably save some memory that would be taken up with those useless apps?
lukesky said:
if you remove those system apps, won't it help in booting up the phone faster? and probably save some memory that would be taken up with those useless apps?
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I think you'll see little to no improvement at all...
For me, I used the 'freeze' option in Titanium rather than uninstalling them. It makes my apps menu tidier, and there must be at least a slight improvement in speed as less stuff is running in the background now.
so guys, do you think anyone will come out with a simpler way to flash custom rom soon?
I recently got my DZ replaces and they send me a phone with 2.3.3. Can someone point me in the direction of a safe guide to use in order to root my phone? Problem is Im finding too many guides and Im not sure which one is relevant. can someone help me? Please and thank you
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I recently got my DZ replaces and they send me a phone with 2.3.3. Can someone point me in the direction of a safe guide to use in order to root my phone? Problem is Im finding too many guides and Im not sure which one is relevant. can someone help me? Please and thank you
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you will need to downgrade to 2.2 first. there is a guide in the development forum which will help you do that and then you can root using visionary or anything like that.
Got it done finally! Thanks
Once rooted can you upgrade to 2.3 and all will be fine or do you have to stay with 2.2?
newtybar said:
Once rooted can you upgrade to 2.3 and all will be fine or do you have to stay with 2.2?
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If you flash any official update, you will lose root.
There are pre-rooted versions of the Gingerbread update in the Development section. That is what you want to flash.
Please dear God help me out with this, I am so lost! So I bought an Acer A500 tab, and I want to root it. But before that! I want to save the current firmware and the CWM due to me having a two year warranty on the device, and I'm a afraid if I were to return the device with issues clearly it'll void the warranty since I've rooted the device. So please can anybody help me out? I am in huge need of help!
Thanks in advance!
To help you I need first some information about your tab. First,what android version is installed on your tab? The best backup will be with CWM but then you need root.
Of course you could connect your tab to the PC via USB and copy everything to your HDD. But I think here you need root as well to be able to see the system folders... .
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Mkami said:
Please dear God help me out with this, I am so lost! So I bought an Acer A500 tab, and I want to root it. But before that! I want to save the current firmware and the CWM due to me having a two year warranty on the device, and I'm a afraid if I were to return the device with issues clearly it'll void the warranty since I've rooted the device. So please can anybody help me out? I am in huge need of help!
Thanks in advance!
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A paradox.
You can't save your current rom in it's native form unless you root. And you can't save it, unless you install a custom recovery. And even then, you're saving a modified OS that if you restore, will be modified. So a paradox.
So if you want to root, and install roms, you'll just have to suck it up like everybody else
Fortunately, lots of methods to revert back to stock in case needed.
So, you either take the plunge, or stay stock.
Not only that but most Big Box stores dont have a clue and rarely look at it anyway ,unless you tell them its something you did (which would void the warranty) . But for me personally I void warranty within a few hours on everything I get , if its electronic they always take it back , I wouldnt worry about it , run a bunch of stress tests for a couple days if the components are sound ,it will complete them no problem , then root away and have fun!
Thank you all!
Thank you all for your replies! I can honestly say, I can happily root my device without a worry now. But I have a couple of things I'd like to ask, for one. What is a cpu ID? Also say for example I rooted my device and want to revert back to the original OS is that possible or not? Here is my current information.
Android Version
3.0.1
Kernel Version
2.6.36.3-00001-gf991e5d
Build number
Acer_A500_1.016.05_COM_GEN1
That's my current information. IF anybody of you guys call tell me I would like to root my device but with ICS not with Honeycomb since at the moment that's what I currently have. Also I have 2 year warranty.
Cheers! And much appreciation!
First, this is an excellent post about CPUIDs, why you need them, and how to get them posted by dibb_nz ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25429111#post25429111 this will really give some direction on why it's important and how you can get it.
If you want to root an ICS rom I recommend reading this post from Civato on how to upgrade your bootloader to v6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 I recommend the Automated Flashing tools for ease, but the manual version is good if you want to know more about what you're doing on the tablet.
Then pick a ROM, I personally use Flexreaper Extreme, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22964651&postcount=1 but there are several out there to choose from, I recommend putting several on your MicroSD card before you start any portion of the process and that way you have several to choose from, test between them, and don't "over customize" until you make your decision.
Finally, I'll remind to you, as many others will do, BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!
Good Luck, and most importantly, have fun!
-DB
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First, this is an excellent post about CPUIDs, why you need them, and how to get them posted by dibb_nz ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25429111#post25429111 this will really give some direction on why it's important and how you can get it.
If you want to root an ICS rom I recommend reading this post from Civato on how to upgrade your bootloader to v6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 I recommend the Automated Flashing tools for ease, but the manual version is good if you want to know more about what you're doing on the tablet.
Then pick a ROM, I personally use Flexreaper Extreme, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22964651&postcount=1 but there are several out there to choose from, I recommend putting several on your MicroSD card before you start any portion of the process and that way you have several to choose from, test between them, and don't "over customize" until you make your decision.
Finally, I'll remind to you, as many others will do, BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!
Good Luck, and most importantly, have fun!
-DB
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You freaking rock bro! I have a question, since I already have Honeycomb on my Android by default, would I need to root first before I update it to the newer version of the ICS? OR would I just have to manually update it first and then begin the process of rooting the device? I as well admire Flexreaper Extreme. I also noticed there are special mods for the device to change the skin etc...Would you know where I can get the tutorial on that? I know I'm jumping too much, but I'm too darn excited to do this. Hahaha.
Cheers!
Mkami said:
You freaking rock bro!
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Thanks!
Mkami said:
I have a question, since I already have Honeycomb on my Android by default, would I need to root first before I update it to the newer version of the ICS? OR would I just have to manually update it first and then begin the process of rooting the device?
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You should be able to start the process by going through the steps in Civato's post on how to change your Bootloader, make sure you have a ROM on the MicroSD before doing this, and then follow the steps to install the ROM you choose.
Mkami said:
I as well admire Flexreaper Extreme. I also noticed there are special mods for the device to change the skin etc...Would you know where I can get the tutorial on that?
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In the OP for Flexreaper there are discussions about how to install the customizations, Civ wrote a great beginners guide to modding that might help, posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648162
Mkami said:
I know I'm jumping too much, but I'm too darn excited to do this. Hahaha.
Cheers!
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No worries, it's a good thing to be excited about...I enjoy changing ROMs, testing apps, and generally "messing" with my tablet all the time.
Good Luck, Have fun, and don't forget to BACKUP!!
-DB
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Thanks!
You should be able to start the process by going through the steps in Civato's post on how to change your Bootloader, make sure you have a ROM on the MicroSD before doing this, and then follow the steps to install the ROM you choose.
In the OP for Flexreaper there are discussions about how to install the customizations, Civ wrote a great beginners guide to modding that might help, posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648162
No worries, it's a good thing to be excited about...I enjoy changing ROMs, testing apps, and generally "messing" with my tablet all the time.
Good Luck, Have fun, and don't forget to BACKUP!!
-DB
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Heyyy I finally rooted my iconia! XD Thank you so much for the help! I appreciate it! One thing now....after I booted my device it's stuck on the Acer logo.... :X any solutions?? Sorry again for the trouble!
Mkami said:
Heyyy I finally rooted my iconia! XD Thank you so much for the help! I appreciate it! One thing now....after I booted my device it's stuck on the Acer logo.... :X any solutions?? Sorry again for the trouble!
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Sounds like it didn't install cleanly. Double check the checksum, try redownload, wipe everything and reinstall. If that doesn't work make sure that your bootloader and Rom match.
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Deltabear said:
Sounds like it didn't install cleanly. Double check the checksum, try redownload, wipe everything and reinstall. If that doesn't work make sure that your bootloader and Rom match.
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Hi! Thanks for your reply I have successfully rooted my device after hours of research I had to reinstall everything from scratch, unfortunately my build for my tab isn't the same as the the build I had it when I bought it, oh well...So now I have HC 3.0.1
So now I want to flash the device, is that possible? I want to get that ICS look without updating it to the ICS. I was wondering what would you advice me to do? haha, I know I'm asking way too many questions in this single form, I have an excuse for that I'm a noob, hahaha. But seriously your help is very much appreciated!
I will suggest rooting your HC ROM first, then install recovery for example via acer recovery installer. Make a backup then!
After that you can use AFTEROTA to upgrade the bootliader and recovery. When finished install an ICS ROM of your choice. With the help from AFTEROTA you can all ways go back to stock HC version.
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[Solved] Thank you every that helped me
Thank you guys for your help and advices! I have successfully updated and rooted, and flashed my device after hours of reading and going through posts, hahaha. Of course I did do a full backup of everything and now I am good to go! Again thanks again guys, much appreciation!
Cheers! Moe Kami!