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Hi,
probably because its 2:36am here but I can't find any stores(online or local) that sell SE Xperia X10. I am From San Diego, CA. Looked all other the Xperia X10 fan sites and no one mentioning about it.
I would really like to see the phone "in person" as I don't buy things only seeing images on the internet.
Anyone knows where I can go and play with it for couple minutes? And what is the price?
Thank you.
sorry to say dude, you wont see the phone until maybe later this july or august or even september (if AT&T is subsidizing this phone x10a) if you wanna get the x10i with 900/1700/2100, you can either fly to europe or to hong kong to test it in person.
There are several stores in San Gabriel, Monterey Park and Alhambra, CA area that sells X10i with T-Mobile 3G. I purchased mine from addictedtophones.com and pick it up in person. Give them a call.
Thank you guys for reply,
I think I will have a trip to LA to see the phone, I was planing to visit the city anyway, unless I find a store here in San Diego.
Anyone knows how to find this stores?
And I see they making Tmobile contracts too!? strange as tmobile doesnt have them.
My contract ends this month so I will have to decide.
Thank you again.
pagercell services in westminster, ca, orange country can get it too. Holly,the owner can get most imports. I got my treo 650 and p910i from her.
Should be a shorter drive than LA.
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Hi,
probably because its 2:36am here but I can't find any stores(online or local) that sell SE Xperia X10. I am From San Diego, CA. Looked all other the Xperia X10 fan sites and no one mentioning about it.
I would really like to see the phone "in person" as I don't buy things only seeing images on the internet.
Anyone knows where I can go and play with it for couple minutes? And what is the price?
Thank you.
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I found my X10i online very easily by doing google search for xperia X10.
I got mine from expansys usa but there are others that are also less expansive or at least that was the case about a mouth ago.
How much should it be? I found couple of them on ebay with ~550$, is it a good price? Also i so some websites saying that Xperia Shakira is coming out a mid size phone something like 3.2-3.5 inch display. I would love that, as my wife has a 3GS and its 3.5 inch wich for me is more than enought. I also checked Htc Hd2/Evo with that 4.3 inch display and honestly i think is too much, to big and to wide.
Should I wait for that phone maybe? As I noticed SE moves realy slow. I am assuming until it comes out we will have at least a dozen more androids.
Do you guys like your xperia x10? I was reading alot and many ppl sold their phones. Is it aniying because of small RAM, no multitouch and no firmware updates? Like I said SE is slow on making things.
Do not pay anymore than 500 cash. I've seen listings on ebay for 515 free shipping. Paypal, ebay listing fees, and shipping takes quite a chunk from the retailers so they must have been able to get the phone for much cheaper in order to have any kind of decent profit margin.
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Do not pay anymore than 500 cash. I've seen listings on ebay for 515 free shipping. Paypal, ebay listing fees, and shipping takes quite a chunk from the retailers so they must have been able to get the phone for much cheaper in order to have any kind of decent profit margin.
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I see you had one x10 and now got a Nexus one, why? What you didn't like? Or you are the person who doesnt keep a phone too long? I would to see your opinion about this phone. Thanks.
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I see you had one x10 and now got a Nexus one, why? What you didn't like? Or you are the person who doesnt keep a phone too long? I would to see your opinion about this phone. Thanks.
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There is absolutely nothing seriously wrong with the phone other than a few quirks here and there. If you read through the forums, you will get a picture of what people are complaining about. I've mentioned this in another thread; I think the X10 is a fantastic phone if it meets your requirements. In certain aspects of the UI, the X10 is faster than the N1. In others, the opposite is true. Each phone has its own quirks.
The main reason why I bought the N1 is because I'm a nerd who likes to tinker with things. The N1 has the most support right now and that is why I have it. I will buy the X10 again as soon as I have the available cash though. That should tell you something.
Thx,
probably i am going next week to LA to buy one.
Hope I will like what I see )
Thanks for all support guys. Have a great weekend.
Hi there
I have a hardly used HTC Desire up for sale or swap to anyone interested.
It was on Orange but it has been unlocked and debranded.It has no scratches or marks on the phone and is in perfect working order.
I dont use the phone at all and so find it pointless having a £400 phone sitting around when someone else could make use of it. Ideally i would like a swap for another handset and obviously depending on the handset some cash too seeing as it will most likely be for a cheaper handset.
If not then i will take payment for this so make me your offers guys!
Any questions then please ask
Interested
Hi there,
I have recently bought a htc wildfire in India and would like to know if you are interested in swapping. Mine is a unlocked handset bought about only a month ago. I have the genuine bill and warranty. If you are interested please tell me what deal you would like? I would also like to know if i would be facing any problems if using a phone from another country and any other details about your phone like warranty, language, etc? It would also very nice if you could post a few pics of the device. You can mail me at [email protected]
I'm from slovenia, (you know, between italy and austria ) and my freind just bought an unbranded (unlocked) wildfire but its got only 3rd of the capabilites the desire offers, so i think it would be best for her, to get a desire.
For how much you willing to sell the desire for, or if you wanna trade for a new wild fire (bought yesterday... she bought the phone on her own and i dont think she realises just yet what she bought, or what she should buy) and how much should she need to pay up in case u decided to swap for a wildfire?
Hit me back on PM, will notice sooner
If you can give a good price maybe we can have a deal.
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But anyhow, i got a desire and dude, spend some quality time with it, when u get to see its potential you will be amazed it can do almost anything your laptop can do. Its a mini laptop and trust me you will get fond of it in no time as soon as you realize how easy this phone works and how powerful it is.
When u personalize the phone with some extra apps from market that will make your phone your personal assistant, you wont give it away for 1000€ i know i wouldnt trade mine for nothing. Maybe for seat leon 2008 FR edition, white only
Go on xda's Desire section, you will get to know more about it. In couple days time you will be surprised from minute to minute what a great gadget you own trust me
Hi everybody in this wonderfull forum.
To get straight to the point, I'm planning to get a new phone in the next month.
I've serched alot but found no smartphone has multi-boot abilities like HTC HD2. The HTC HD2 has 'quiet' good hardware in comparison to current smartphones on stores shelves. You all know that already.
The problem is, for an outdated device like that, is it worth buying it new? as i don't trust used smartphones anyway.
The way i see it like this:
Yes, very worthwhile because:
Large nice display;
Multible OS support, live in many worlds;
While WM6.5 is depricated, still very functional specially with HTC sense;
The price is affordable according to the fact that it is old somehow.
No, it's worthless because:
Display is sub-bar to currnet devices display regarding multitouch, 65K colors limitation, and overall quality against S.AMOLED Plus or Retina displays for example;
Multible OS support is great but won't go without issues. At least won't be as fluid as native OS on its own device;
Camera is not decent (no 720p video recording, at least as much as i'm aware of);
The price is affordable yes but i can add up a bit more and get newer phone that is better hardware wise and withought much issues.
I know this question might been asked many times. still i ask as it is time dependent and the answer change over time.
What do you guys recommend me to do?
Buy HTC HD2 and fulfill your needs to 'Have It All' and don't complain about any issues;
The time is over for an outdated device even with multiple OS's possibility, save your money son.
Thank you all in advance,
Ahmed.
Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
Hope this helps
Is say buy a re-conditioned hd2 save some money, android feels native to my hd2 its more native than most android devices because it has a bigger team working on it.
Is you want android and you want to save some ££££ get one if you want android and £££££ aren't an issue get the galaxy2
If you don't want android then I don't want to talk to you.... lol
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Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.
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Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
Hope this helps
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Thank you for your reply.
So to sum it up, you think no need to buy new. and iPhone looks better value in your eyes.
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this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.
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Seems nice point of view. Thank you
Not a problem. I even found radioshack at times have good sale prices on they're phones. I think all of these will even let you use your upgrade if your due for one. if you do plan even down the road i found it worth wild to try to find those promo codes. just go to your browser..yahoo/google whatever and type in wirefly promo codes or wirefly coupon codes. it will give you tons of sites but if you take a little time like i said it could save you a good amount of money. glad i could be of any help.
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Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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Thank you,
Just to make it clear, i currently hold Blackberry Curve 8520 that i want to replace. The next phone would be my main phone for at least 2 years. I live in Egypt so no access to T-Mobile stuff i think.
If i to buy a phone, no way i could change soon. my budget now about 3000 L.E or 500 USD. Still, i know phone prices are higher in Egypt than USA so don't let that 500 USD think of high end devices as i wont be able to get them here with that price.
you could always look for a device that could be used world wide and buy it in the U.S offline from someplace like amazon/ebay etc and have it shipped to Egypt. Im really ignorant to what would be in Egypt and wouldn't as far as stores so im not sure what would and wouldn't work. sorry. i did almost buy the g2 from ebay in the UK because it was a lot cheaper there then here in the US and the seller told me it would work but i bought the hd2 instead so i dont know for sure. i can say the hd2 is a gsm phone so like tmobile or if its unlocked you can use at&t. im sure there are ways to get it on different gsm providers but im clueless of how to flash it over.
Yep that's a problem. I don't know what i buy abroad would work here or not. besides shipping has costs plus government share ... i think it'd be the same if i buy form local stores besides the guarantee that what i buy works.
I'm using a second hand one after smashing my old one, never had an issue you'll pick one up for £160 (15k)
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Ask your questions in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623197
Or pm any of the users
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Go for new device. Go for Samsung galaxy s2. But if htc hd2 satisfies ur needs then go for it, no need to go for new devices.
go get it!
i've got one just a month ago, after waiting for financial resources.
i think is the best phone ever!
I was wondering about this too and was told that some devs are working on the Desire HD. Might be something to look into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
the htc hd2 can run ROMs that are desire & desire hd base so thats always a plus but considering that the next phone will be your main phone for two years i really think buying a new phone is the best route for you. also if you ask whats a good phone in a specific model thread everyone will tell you they have the best phone so checking out reviews on sites like cnet.com & testfreaks.com are probably your best option as far as getting an idea on a good phone. i still would check the threads after you have an idea on a couple phones you like just to see what people can do with those phone's that aren't really listed in the specs.
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I red them all and figured out this. i like to play with different OS's. This is what i do on PCs so, i guess if i'm bounded to a single OS (however its greatness), i'd miss having other mobiles with other OS's. The HTC HD2 seems a good deal to me. And its hardware is not that bad afterall.
Thank you again,
i buyed a broken hd2 for 90€ 1 month ago. all i can say it's that it's a wonderful smartphone, no other phone on the planet can run 5/6 OS, android feels like native, and developement is still real active. i didn't feel the need of a faster smartphone.
hardware is really good, photo aren't bad, we have 720p recording with wp7 and soon on android too, screen is ok, multitouch is perfect, it lacks video out, but how many time we need a tv-out? (i used tv-out on my ipod video 2/3 times in 3/4 years just to test it), it lack a frontal camera, but hey! i hate calling, i double hate video calling
so i didn't need anything else
Yep you are totaly right in my opinion. However, i saw many videos on youtube complaining about battery life even on the stock os. i know big screen = battery drain faster. but 6 or 8 hours aren't accepted at all as some videos shows. They also said stuff about lags and the need to restart the phone few times weekly and sometimes daily. Can anybody confirm or deny this claim? I'd appreciate it.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/6/8351785/sony-xperia-z3-t-mobile-discontinued
Uh oh, Sony is now going to have a much harder time in the US unless it decides to do the Z4 on all carriers when it releases. I have the Verizon variant and I'm loving it but I'm shocked T-Mobile quickly decides to discontinue the Z3. I hope Verizon doesn't do the same although they're selling the Z3v for 99 cents on contract.
What do you guys think? Is there still hope the Z4 will invade the US market?
Does this mean no lollipop for D6616?
To be honest, no I don't think the Z4 will sell well in the US either even though it will probably be a great device. Even when I bought the Z3 I did not think it would really sell. It's not that it's a bad device, it's just that more people associate Android phones with HTC/Samsung/LG. Sony has not done much advertising and so not many people even know it exists. Everything I just said pertains more to the US than other countries, where Sony has a bigger footprint.
Just look at the HTC Butterfly how many people bought it? Even though it was higher end device than the M7 and also had a better camera. I loved it but it wasn't really advertised as much as the M7.
honestly, i'm not surprised. you can gauge how well a product is doing based on how many other companies want to piggyback on its success. When talking about phones, this usually means accessories, and if you compare it to the other smartphones on the market of the same price range, the adoption of the Z3 in the States was abysmal. You can't even go out a buy a nice case for it, even at T-Mo stores..
I agree with wprpalmeida and abhinav.tella. The whole branding for Sony smartphone is lacking in the US to the fullest. You will hear a lot about the new Samsung Galaxy, iPhone, HTC, etc. in the commercials. Everyone is familiar with these brands. I had Samsung Galaxy S5 or iPhone 6 users compliment on my Z3, but had no idea it was a Sony phone. Let me just say that if Samsung or Apple had done the branding and advertisement for Sony, Sony would be in way better shape.
Not only in US... Situation EU countries is similar.
I'm trying to find case for Z3 and there's nothing in Tmobile or other stores...
When I remember Z, Z1.... even Z2, stores were full of gadgets, cases and screen protectors.
You could buy many things on EBay and on stores but Z3 is very poor with accessories for this device...
Sony is losing this battle.... Unfortunately.
I really like Xperia devices but changes on Z3 and Z4 just aren't good enough.
New SoC, cool...but where's other things?
They are just moving speakers and hardware buttons around device...
I had Z1, Z2 and Z3 and I always had to look closely to make sure I took device I want...
Now I have only Z1 and Z3, I bought Note4 and it's exciting new thing for me...
It's not better then Z3, it's same as Z3 but it's something new for me...
But lets not spit only on Sony, all manufacturers are doing the same thing...
I guess we reached the point where we don't need more cpu power or memory..
We need better OS and battery...
Better battery we probably won't see but we could get faster updates and better firmware / software...
If Apple has hardware from Note4 or Z3 powered by iOS they would show what we actually have under the hood...
It's ridiculous to have more power in phones then in notebooks and see that notebooks are faster then phones.
And still they are on Windows?! [emoji14]
I'm thinking... We are probably close to see Android we'll have to pay and devices that are same for years...
Something just have to change..
"Batteries are getting worse" (ridiculously strong and fast SoC are killing them), screens are going into XXXXHD resolutions...
We need better OS, at least better optimised OS...not more power in cpu and gpu... God...I need smartphone, not GameBoy..
Manufacturers have to realised that or Sony won't be the only one who got shoe in the ass...
If that was reason (slow updates and same devices for a years) for Tmobile to cans Sony and their Z1 copies then I salute to Tmobile..
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Oh for MOD EDIT Rule 2 @gregbradley sake! Now with this news how in the hell are we gonna get the D6616 lollipop update now? At first I thought the Sony Xperia Z3 was a great phone and now with all this delays, discontinuations, no support for root, I'm never gonna buy a Sony phone again. The only reason why I bought this phone was because it had 3GB RAM and SD card and 20MP camera.
If I were to switch to another brand, every other one is crap too. HTC already failed to make a great camera on its M9. Samsung Edge and S6 have no support for SD card and is a copy of iPhone 6. Motorola doesn't make phones with the latest specs and an SD card. Sony is a complete joke, so who's left? The only one to make me happy is LG but that 5.5 inch is just overkill but its the only phone that has everything I want. There's no phone thats perfect for my needs.
Very sad, but can't really blame T-Mobile. 1st couple of batches on TMO were defective (spontaneous back glass cracks, fitment issues, etc.), then Sony themselves offer zero advertisement to move units. Word of mouth only goes so far. Every person I have shown this phone to (and its capabilities) is very impressed, but they always say "Xperia what?" They have already annouced support for 5.0 on TMO, so I'd be really suprised if they back out now.
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Let me just say that if Samsung or Apple had done the branding and advertisement for Sony, Sony would be in way better shape.
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Samsung and Apple spend obscene amounts of money in their marketing campaigns. Even when the Z series could be a better product by objective standards, Sony just doesn't have the muscle power (the money) to let people know. Also Not sure how is elsewhere, but getting in bed with the carriers is crucial to sell your phone in the USA, only Apple is able to escape this fate.
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To be honest, no I don't think the Z4 will sell well in the US either even though it will probably be a great device. Even when I bought the Z3 I did not think it would really sell. It's not that it's a bad device, it's just that more people associate Android phones with HTC/Samsung/LG. Sony has not done much advertising and so not many people even know it exists. Everything I just said pertains more to the US than other countries, where Sony has a bigger footprint.
Just look at the HTC Butterfly how many people bought it? Even though it was higher end device than the M7 and also had a better camera. I loved it but it wasn't really advertised as much as the M7.
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Americans are brainwashed by advertising, and so we know only what we have been programmed to believe.
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Americans are brainwashed by advertising, and so we know only what we have been programmed to believe.
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Brainwashed or not, if you want to sell a product in large quantities you have to cut through the noise. As mentioned, there is no incentive for sales staff to sell a product with little consumer knowledge when they have a more widely known alternative available. I believe that informed consumers will always be relative minority.
Yes, you are correct, which leads me to my other criticism of American retail. Many large retail chains employ people at low wages and provide very little training on their products. You couple an uneducated store clerk and uneducated consumer and you get a marriage of ignorance and misunderstanding of the product that the customer is purchasing. T-mobile, in my view, is selling the data plan, over the phone. That's their produc: the data plan. They couldn't care as much about the hardware. The feign ignorance so that you believe you need a new phone. Sheisters!
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Brainwashed or not, if you want to sell a product in large quantities you have to cut through the noise. As mentioned, there is no incentive for sales staff to sell a product with little consumer knowledge when they have a more widely known alternative available. I believe that informed consumers will always be relative minority.
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Well to be fair, at least the store near me where I went for 3 exchanges (Z3) told me there were many others coming in for replacements as well due to defects cosmetic (gaps) or camera, apparently they received a bad batch/es... so low sales and high return rates generally call for a phase out or TMO will also be at the receiving end.
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Well to be fair, at least the store near me where I went for 3 exchanges (Z3) told me there were many others coming in for replacements as well due to defects cosmetic (gaps) or camera, apparently they received a bad batch/es... so low sales and high return rates generally call for a phase out or TMO will also be at the receiving end.
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The store I went to touted the Z3. I wound up getting it by calling t-mobile and throwing the "I've been with you guys for thirteen years" flag, and they took $100 off. My Z3 hasn't given me any troubles... Yet. We'll see.
Did you buy it at launch? Some of the stores apparently got bad batches at launch, they stripped 10+ boxes in my 3 visits to TMO store, my current one is good though. Then again apparently even the iPhone 6 had many warranty returns at TMO lol, they told me that it would take time to process refund from my first Z3 exchange, because they were backlogged with returned iPhone 6s lol.
No root (and locked bootloader) killed the phone.
The latest update makes Galaxy-compatible headset works 100% with volume +-.
Frankly, I want to stay away from Samsh_t as far as possible, and though I am happy with LG G3, lacking band 12 may make me move on. No root makes me hesitant to get this phone because I need root to fix write to SD problem.
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Did you buy it at launch? Some of the stores apparently got bad batches at launch, they stripped 10+ boxes in my 3 visits to TMO store, my current one is good though. Then again apparently even the iPhone 6 had many warranty returns at TMO lol, they told me that it would take time to process refund from my first Z3 exchange, because they were backlogged with returned iPhone 6s lol.
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What was bad about them? I'm curious.
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What was bad about them? I'm curious.
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Well the first two had big gaps between screen and frame with glue missing / bits of glue visible (i think) and massive light bleed from there, one had a pink camera (mild), the 4th one is perfect (current one).
The electronic buying habit of the american public blows me away. Don't people research anything anymore? It's like we've become incapable of doing anything outside of the norm. Apple is making a killing selling a technologically inferior product because it's the cool thing to own now. It makes me feel like my fellow countrymen are just plain stupid most of the time. Plus you would think Apple invented big screens and NFC payments. Ugh....
And, most think Samsung is the only non Apple alternative.
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Americans are brainwashed by advertising, and so we know only what we have been programmed to believe.
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Yes, you are correct, which leads me to my other criticism of American retail. Many large retail chains employ people at low wages and provide very little training on their products. You couple an uneducated store clerk and uneducated consumer and you get a marriage of ignorance and misunderstanding of the product that the customer is purchasing. T-mobile, in my view, is selling the data plan, over the phone. That's their produc: the data plan. They couldn't care as much about the hardware. The feign ignorance so that you believe you need a new phone. Sheisters!
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It's borderline anti trust going on at the mobile phone companies. I'd like to see them completely removed from the phone buying experience. They have way too much influence. Seems we did this once in the old days when you had to buy your land line phone from ATT. You should be able to buy an American phone that covers all bands and then choose your carrier.
i was looking to bought a cheaper phone, i see the LeEco Le Pro 3 but has a lot of problems like the rom support,no 3.5 mm, the screen in corner areas don't respond, in some units the phone come with factory problems,the charger burn the type c connection but if you have luck can get a good unit and install good rom and have the best phone ever for 200$, i will buy the amazon usa version
my question is this a good phone or see another phone for 200$,and i also can buy chinese stuff
i use social media, somes heavy games, but i want a phone to last me a lot because i cant buy a expensive phone,thanks everyone
sorry for my bad english
Well it's a real gamble when you buy from Chinese wholesalers like most people on XDA. You don't know where they're getting their phones from, and if they're buying defective batches cheap, and selling them cheap. Those buying from LeEco US, China, and India (regions where LeEco has an official presence) seem to have a lower rate of encountering defects, but not by much. Phones sold through stores and official online retailers in these regions have official ROMs, not crappy vendor ROMs from wholesalers like Geekbuying and Banggood. You'll be much safer if you're buying from Amazon and the seller is Amazon.
Also, those issues have to do with ROMs, not necessarily the phones themselves. Don't flash a ROM or mess with the phone in any way unless you're willing to risk it. My mom's been using her Le2 heavily for a year now and she has yet to encounter hardware issues. The only thing she encounters is lag because of how bad eUI is.
Make sure you're getting the x720 if it's the Pro 3, because that's the one with custom ROM support. The x722 doesn't have anything. If you're afraid of hardware failure (I am too) you should probably just buy an old/used SD820 flagship for $200 USD from a reliable auction website. But even brand new SD820 phones can be had for around $200 these days, like the LG G5. If you don't mind crossing over, the iPhone SE is really cheap these days.
sk8223 said:
Well it's a real gamble when you buy from Chinese wholesalers like most people on XDA. You don't know where they're getting their phones from, and if they're buying defective batches cheap, and selling them cheap. Those buying from LeEco US, China, and India (regions where LeEco has an official presence) seem to have a lower rate of encountering defects, but not by much. Phones sold through stores and official online retailers in these regions have official ROMs, not crappy vendor ROMs from wholesalers like Geekbuying and Banggood. You'll be much safer if you're buying from Amazon and the seller is Amazon.
Also, those issues have to do with ROMs, not necessarily the phones themselves. Don't flash a ROM or mess with the phone in any way unless you're willing to risk it. My mom's been using her Le2 heavily for a year now and she has yet to encounter hardware issues. The only thing she encounters is lag because of how bad eUI is.
Make sure you're getting the x720 if it's the Pro 3, because that's the one with custom ROM support. The x722 doesn't have anything. If you're afraid of hardware failure (I am too) you should probably just buy an old/used SD820 flagship for $200 USD from a reliable auction website. But even brand new SD820 phones can be had for around $200 these days, like the LG G5. If you don't mind crossing over, the iPhone SE is really cheap these days.
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Thanks you to take the time to answer my question,yes i'm really scare if i get a unit with issues because i don't have a lot of money to spend and maybe my mother will get angry with me, i thought to bought a used phone but which phone you recommend ? i use social media,some heavy games and i will love if have a big battery thanks again i really appreciate that
SrHojaldra said:
Thanks you to take the time to answer my question,yes i'm really scare if i get a unit with issues because i don't have a lot of money to spend and maybe my mother will get angry with me, i thought to bought a used phone but which phone you recommend ? i use social media,some heavy games and i will love if have a big battery thanks again i really appreciate that
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this is the amazon usa version that i see, which version is it and has developed rom
Like I said, get a used flagship from Samsung/Apple/Motorola etc. Since you're in the states getting a cheap good phone is really easy. If I were in your shoes with a fist full of USD I'd probably sit on it till Black Friday and hunt for deals on slickdeals. Wait till December for phones to go on sale and you'll end up with something more reliable than an LeEco phone. But if you're desperate for a phone I guess you could get this one. You'll be getting a US warranty too, which is better than Banggood and the rest. But LeEco is a pretty much dead company now so don't expect much RMA support.
For the rest of us, we're not so lucky. We pay huge taxes on everything plus our currency isn't worth as much. ? So we are driven to buy cheap phones like the LeEco ones to avoid tax and because nothing else is available cheaply.
Honestly 4 years is a long time for a phone especially for one that's been released for a year. Realistically this phone is a good phone for someone who wants to pay a
little for a lot of hardware. But for a good experience you've got to be willing to work on the phone and change the software. Also without a removable battery the life of the phone is limited. My suggestion. - Buy used LG G5 on swappa. Can't beat $150 for a flagship with removable battery and Sdcard support - and a headphone jack.
3-4 years is too long time for a smart phone I think. Spent 2-300 dollars and use it for 1-2 years maybe you can look at Xiaomi phone they are reasonably priced and work well much better than LeEco.
3 to 4 years is too long for a smartphone??? Can you imagine if we said the same thing about computers? Android users must have unlimited money to spend on new phones because many Apple users I know keep their phones for at least 5 years. They're not as picky as I am, as I'm always in need of something capable of gaming well. The new iPhones solve that dilemma but they're waaay over budget and lack a headphone jack. But they're also more than capable of netting you 5+ years of use unless you heavily abuse your phones.
Ok Apple fanboi. We're talking android here. The sad fact is 4 years is a very long time for an android phone especially one with no support. Do I like my LE Pro 3? Yes? Why? Because I like playing around with ROMS. Short of a google branded phone this ones has been good for that. But for a person looking for a phone that just works? Sure buy an Apple at $700. Keep it for 4 years. For me I'll buy a $200 android phone ... beat it like a rented mule.. sell it for $125 and use the money to buy my next mule.
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Ok Apple fanboi. We're talking android here. The sad fact is 4 years is a very long time for an android phone especially one with no support. Do I like my LE Pro 3? Yes? Why? Because I like playing around with ROMS. Short of a google branded phone this ones has been good for that. But for a person looking for a phone that just works? Sure buy an Apple at $700. Keep it for 4 years. For me I'll buy a $200 android phone ... beat it like a rented mule.. sell it for $125 and use the money to buy my next mule.
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If I was an Apple fanboy I wouldn't be on XDA right now. You know that you can admit that Apple phones are good in terms of longevity while also being an Android fan, right? Or is your world so black and white that it's only one or the other for you?
And 4 years is not a long time and we shouldn't be settling on this. Not unless you enjoy wasting your money, like I said. Android users deserve stable phones and 4 years of updates or more. Even the top-of-the-line Google Pixel only gets 2 years of updates and that's really sad. Also, that $700 Apple phone retains quite a bit of its value down the road. You'll be able to resell the iPhone 6S for $500 in a year's time. The $700 Android phone? Nope. I see a lot of S7s selling for $200 on Swappa.
So pretty much don't buy a high-end Android phone at exuberant prices if you want to recoup most of your costs later. In that case, the LeEco is a good buy, but the state of its reliability is always up in the air.
My wife has exclusively used Iphones for years. As far as support Apple admittedly does a better job of providing software updates for the phone. However my wife's battery twice has given out on her Iphones and I ended up replacing with an after market battery. Far before the updates stopped.
I am in agreement that it's sad that Android phones don't get much beyond 2 years of support and many not even that much. The hardware often is just fine it's the software that lags behind.
So I guess I'm in agreement with you.
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If I was an Apple fanboy I wouldn't be on XDA right now. You know that you can admit that Apple phones are good in terms of longevity while also being an Android fan, right? Or is your world so black and white that it's only one or the other for you?
And 4 years is not a long time and we shouldn't be settling on this. Not unless you enjoy wasting your money, like I said. Android users deserve stable phones and 4 years of updates or more. Even the top-of-the-line Google Pixel only gets 2 years of updates and that's really sad. Also, that $700 Apple phone retains quite a bit of its value down the road. You'll be able to resell the iPhone 6S for $500 in a year's time. The $700 Android phone? Nope. I see a lot of S7s selling for $200 on Swappa.
So pretty much don't buy a high-end Android phone at exuberant prices if you want to recoup most of your costs later. In that case, the LeEco is a good buy, but the state of its reliability is always up in the air.
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My wife has exclusively used Iphones for years. As far as support Apple admittedly does a better job of providing software updates for the phone. However my wife's battery twice has given out on her Iphones and I ended up replacing with an after market battery. Far before the updates stopped.
I am in agreement that it's sad that Android phones don't get much beyond 2 years of support and many not even that much. The hardware often is just fine it's the software that lags behind.
So I guess I'm in agreement with you.
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I have a friend at work that's still using his HTC M7 (from 2013 $590) the battery is not good but the phone still functions
I would never consider keeping any phone over 2 years because the resale value drops like a rock after just 16 to 18 months
I paid $279 for my LeEco pro 3 just 6 months ago and it's been a really reliable device with the the Turbo rom on it. But I don't see me keeping it another 6 months ... I have already been considering a LG V20 ($299) or a Umidigi S2 with the 6" screen and 5100mh battery for $179.
Their a allot of nice phones in the $200 to 350 range and if you invest in a decent one and resale it every 6 to 8 months you don't face much of a loss. If I sold the Le Pro 3 today for $175 I would only have paid $16 a month to use it. I feel that's a fair price for using a nice phone.
If you consider a phone is only worth $4 a month to you ($200 / 48 months) I guess the lepro3 would be OK