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I have couple of scratches on my touch pro screen.when the device is on the scratches are like rainbow colors really visible.If I change the touch screen (not the whole lcd screen) that will fix my problem right? Did any1 do this?
ummm i think when u meant by "rainbow colors" then ure gonna have to replace the WHOLE LCD screen, cuz more than likely its from the LCD screen, and i dont think the touch screen and LCD screen are 2 parts...i think theyre just one...not sure, but try to look on ebay OR idk if u have warranty on it u can probably call in HTC about it...
This is what I think will fix the scratches
Code:
[CODE]http://mobile1.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03976&dept_id=088&cat_id=0695
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Much cheaper
For Digitizer Module for T-Mobile MDA Vario IV Touch Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20648
For HTC Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20647
I don't know if it fit the same as Touch Pro or Fuze, but read the spec
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
radoste said:
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
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Maybe this can help.Its a How to remove cameras from touch pro with pictures
Code:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h2mmwetxnij/HTC%20Touch%20Pro%20-%20Camera%20removal%20photo%20guide%20v1.1%20by%20A%20Mak.pdf
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
radoste said:
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
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I wouldnt, thats just the only touch pro take apart that I found with pictures
mikechannon.net is a good place to start. But if you are looking to replace the digitizer only, you won't find it there. It's a bad move anyway. I tried that, cracked my lcd and end-up buying the whole lcd like this.
All I can tell you are my mistakes.... lol....
- never peel of the digitizer. it will ruin it.
- never try to remove the lcd with cutter blade. this is how i cracked it (stupid me and still regret it)
- between the lcd and the digitizer there is a thick, clear double tape like glue. i came across some information about this somewhere (forget where...). one said you should heat the glue first (don't know how to apply this without affecting the lcd) . other one said have to use dental floss.
So, there you go.
HTC Touch Pro- LCD & Digitizer replacement instuctions
Hi everyone. I have SCOURGED the internet looking for some kind of decent instructions to replace the LCD & Digitizer screen on my HTC Touch Pro (Sprint) phone with the new set I purchased from Hong Kong. Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
I have seen you all talking about needing to do the same thing and wonder if anyone has done it? And do you have any directions to help me?
I've had this part for a month now, and can't find any directions to do it! My dog chewed it, and the touch works, but the screen is half black now. I read it is easier/less risky to replace both lcd and digitizer, which I went ahead and purchased them both with the tools, now I just need to find something decent (instructions) to have help replacing it.
thanks to anyone who can step up to help me, I'm frustrated beyond all comprehension, and now feel I may as well ditch the phone if I can't find a way to replace it. Or maybe you know someone I could send it off to? Everyone wants to charge a couple hundred bucks sending it in to them!
to the appling heat ...u can try putting it in a ziploc bag and boiling it ...and for the instructions this is the best i can do for u http://store.payloadz.com/str-asp-i...nance_Manual_eBooks_Technical-end-detail.html
im pretty sure after all ur fustration 8 dollars wont kill u ...and im pretty sure the condensation from the boiling wont hurt
and i found a free one hope it helps http://www.htcdriver.com/index.php?page=htc-raphael
it's a long trip, in russian, to get to the lcd
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
You can use Google translate on it. It seems that the hardest component to get to is the lcd. I also bought the digitizer, since my lcd is fine. I'll post a follow-up if I go for it.
Any luck getting the touch screen off and new one on?
I bought a touch screen and digitizer as separate items. I wish I had known that some kind of clear adhesive is supposed to be between them.
A) What happens if you don't use this adhesive?
B) Has anyone successfully replaced the screen/digitizer with replacements on the fuze or touch pro?
Anyone having luck?
Has anyone actually figured out how to install this? I just got what was supposed to be a replacement LCD+digitizer. they shipped the pieces seperate, so I can't understand how to put them together, since HTC seems to only list the part as one piece and there are no instructions or videos anywhere that indicate how to install them as seperate pieces, or get them to connect.
Dont do it!!
Ok, I just recently bought a parts phone on here (a Fuze) and was "just going to replace the digitizer" (Authors laughs, then cries at statement)
Ok, yes you can replace the digitizer without replacing the screen, BUT they tell you to use an oven (you can buy one from HTC they make it available to their techs, so you need someone that can get that for you). If you do not make sure that ALL of the glue is loose prior to taking the digitizer off you will split the LCD.
It is much simpler to get either a parts phone or a screen and digitizer and replace the part. I had to replace my digitizer as the touch function did not work. You can find older project phones in the market section. If you figure the cost of a parts phone (plus you have extra parts if anything else goes out) vs. if you buy a digitizer, then rip a part of the LCD because all of the glue was not disolved, and have to buy either a parts phone or a new phone anyway you will be way ahead of the game.
There are a number of good resources on here as to how to disassemble and reassemble the fuze.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TRYING TO REPLACE THE DIGITIZER ALONE IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED OR HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT - unless you need a reason to sell your spouse on why you need a new phone. "Honey, I tried my hardest to fix it, but I guess it is really broke now, I'm gonna have to get an HD2"
If you have any questions about the process let me know I am always more than happy to help.
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC%20Raphael_SM_A10%20_GENERIC__01%20Dec%20
pkwhisker said:
Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
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Yes, indeed, mike channon does offer a very detailed service manual for the raphael.
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael): Some Tips
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro
How To - Tips
1. Collect information
a. Find the Service Manual HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) on Mike Channons's site, the Raphael wiki or you could Google for it. File name is "HTC Raphael_SM_A10 _GENERIC__01 Dec 08.pdf".
Take a look at the disassembly and assembly chapters of the Service Manual.
The following two lists may be helpful.
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List 1: types and quantities of screws
[SPL no., P/N, pages of Service Manual, description, quantity used in Raphael]
10. 72H01893-00M (see p. 34), black (middle length), 2x
11. 72H02450-00M (see p. 32, 34, 30), black (shortest type), 7x
12. 72H02474-00M (p. 37), black (longest type), 4x
13. 72H02689-00M (p. 30), metal, 4x
26. 72H02865-00M (p. 35), metal, 6x
27. 72H02886-00M (p. 35), 1x torque screw for M/B, 1x
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List 2: kinds of tape/fabric used in the Raphael
a. Conductive fabric
Self adhesive conductive fabric, parts 14-24 on the SPL. The adhesive backside is also conductive.
b. Mylar
A specific kind of polyethylenetereftalaat (PET) used for electical insulation.
c. Kapton tape
Kapton is a polyimide film which can remain stable in a wide range of temperatures. (electrical insulation)
d. EMI gasket
EMI shields are implemented in a design to isolate one component or section of a device from another.
e. Double sided tape
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b. Movies of the disassembly process can be found on YouTube for the HTC Diamond.
The Diamond does not have an integrated keyboard, so it is a bit different, but it is good enough to get an idea of the process.
The information on how to replace the screen itself is not found in the service manual.
c. Study the last few stages of the HTC Touch Pro page on pdacenter.ru
(Translate the page into English using Google.)
The display is attached to the metal frame by 4 small pieces of double sided tape.
3. Get some tools
a. Phillips (cross head) screwdriver size 00x50
The right size is 00. The length, 50mm, is less important.
There is one torque screw in the Raphael (SPL no. 27), but it can easily be handled by a normal screwdriver.
b. Plastic stick (to open the case)
The standard plastic stick I had ordered was actually too big. The one I made myself was smaller and proved to be better.
c. Other tools
I did not use these, but if you plan to do more than one it would be a good idea to use the
- plastic tweezers
- ESD wrist wrap
- rubber gloves
4. Buy a display with touch screen attached to it
You could buy the touch screen and the display separately, but I could not find any information on putting them together. Avoid problems by buying these already attached.
5. Replace the display
a. Disassemble following the Service Manual, leaving the M/B unit in order.
Be careful not to break the small speaker cords. Do not move them too much because they are very fragile.
Be sure to keep every piece of tape safe for reassembly. Buying new tape can be quite expensive.
b. For the last stages, follow the instructions from pdacenter.ru.
Press the old display gently out of the metal frame. Move the pieces of double sided tape from the old to the new display, and fit the new one into the metal frame.
c. Reassemble following the Service Manual.
Good luck!
What will fit what?
Will the lcd and digitizer from a sprint version work on an alltel version(ppc-6850)? Or is there another lcd and digitizer that i can use? Im back to the old berry 8703 and its killing me.
spammer said:
if you just find scratches on the surface, then you just need to change the touch screen digitizer. the soldering is requested when you fit it.
But of course, if you buy the one that lcd and touch screen fit together one, then no soldering request.
Anyway, soldering is not such difficult if you has the tool.
thanks
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I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
ingmardb said:
I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
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you can look at the connect flex cable part of your touch screen and the lcd, you will find they are soldered together. Of course , if you don't soldering it together, it will also work, but not as good as after soldering.
Hi to all who have dust between the touch screen digitizer and LCD.
I send my device 3 times to the authorised HTC service center because of this problem, they cleaned it (not perfectly) and the dust was back again after few days of use. This was really ennoying for me...
After several disassemblies, cleaning, research where dust comes in, then assembles I found the flaw.
The dust doesn’t come in via sealing foam between the touch screen digitizer and LCD.
There is a bump defect of phone housing around the volume keys. Inside of the plastic housing is a metal frame, where the touch screen digitizer is stacked on - that frame is a little bended and the touch screen doesn’t stick properly on it (around the volume keys only). When you look close on the phone you can see also a little wider gap between the touch screen top glass and silver plastic housing edge. (See picture)
WARNING
The following directions WILL VOID
your warranty - you are performing
this repair at your own risk.
So, now, what you have to do:
For those, who have already dust in, just simply disassembly your device (if you are brave enough, have all tools and precise hands - maybe some experience ) and remove PROPERLY all dirt with brush, compressed air and antistatic cloth, then assemble it back or send the device to the service center to clean it (wont void the warranty). Before sealing your TD2 (keep it in plastic bag away from dust) prepare a sharp wooden toothpick, neutral transparent or black silicone (you can purchase it from any building material shop) and cotton cloth.
Now you have to clean the gap between whole plastic silver housing frame and touch screen top glass with soft brush. Then use sharp wooden toothpick to impress the silicone into the gap (all gaps you can see, just in case) (silicone does not damage phone housing and TSCR surface and it’s easy to clean), then just gently and properly wipe off all the rest of silicone from phone surface. (be careful not to get silicone to the keys or phone receiver slot)
Leave the phone for several hours to get silicone dry.
Then you can use your TD2 in dusty environment and your display stays absolutely clean and dusty free. (TESTED on mine, for me perfect phone now and I am very happy with it...)
For those who have a little dust in and want to stop come more in and those who are planning to buy TD2 (dont wanna play the lottery faulty or not ), do the same procedure (silicone impress only) after unwrapping your device from plastic package.
GOOD LUCK!!! ENJOY YOUR ABSOLUTELY DUSTY FREE DEVICE!!!
Sorry for my English
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not crazy enough to void the warranty of my phone because of a minor thing like that. When mine gets dirty, I send it back and that's it.
If it gets dirty again, I send it back again...
But, it's a good tutorial for the "brave ones" anyway Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
HastaSSSS
I sent mine back over a week ago due to this dust problem (in fact I delivered it in person to HTC repair center in Milton Keynes) hoping for a quick turnaround.
I'm still waiting for it to come back and missing it terribly. I'm back to using my old Nokia E71 which is a great phone but I like my new one and want it back so I may go down the route of the OP just so I don't have to repeat the return each time I get a dust issue.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519463
i dont want to hijack this thread. if i am then i am sorry
but hopefully you can input your expertise into this thread or help form an opinion for a new thread
I just got a topaz and want to keep dust from getting in but I'm confused about the sillicon. Could you describe more clearly what it is and maybe post a picture so I have some idea what it should look like.
from the picture, for the second gap, apply the protective foil that comes with the phone. Should solve a bit the problem. Ber in mind that after apply, the touchscreen will not have the same sensitivity. You'll have to tap a little bit harder ...
i think you meant screen protector no?
anyway thx for the info,
if anyone knows how to disassemble this device pls help
yes, screen protector. Better not use the screwdriver ... remember warranty ...
I thought these dust under the screen issues had been fixed long ago, but now it seems the problem that affected my old c600 has come back to ruin my topaz after just 1 week.
Not impressed.
georgeono said:
from the picture, for the second gap, apply the protective foil that comes with the phone. Should solve a bit the problem. Ber in mind that after apply, the touchscreen will not have the same sensitivity. You'll have to tap a little bit harder ...
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I already use a screen protector. I'm more concerned about the first gap. I really don't want dust to happen since I bought my phone second hand and it doesn't have a warrenty.
you can always use a can of pressurized air to get the dust out. (same you use with PCs)
Wouldn't you need two holes that are connected if your blowing air into the device? One for the air to go in and one for the dust to go out? I don't have any dust under my screen currently and would like it to remain that way. The silicon method doesn't seem to difficult or dangerous which is why I'm interested in what silicon to use.
from what I understood (from the pictures in the 1st post), it's not actually a hole, but a free space = gap.
I opened the D2 (only the two upper screws - for lifting the inner part a bit) and did have a look for "gaps" somewhere around the volume controls - i did not really see a gap
But for getting out the dust: dont blow air into the D2 but get the air out - i actually used a vacuum-cleaner. If you remove the two screws it is possible to lift the LCD below the volume sliders *A LITTLE BIT* (=about 0,5 mm only!!!!!) with a small screw driver to create a gap. It worked quite well. (be aware of high air flow and possible static electricity)
But i really would like to know, where exactly to apply some supplementary sealing to get rid of the dust-problem. Any detailed pic would be appreciated.
axantas said:
But i really would like to know, where exactly to apply some supplementary sealing to get rid of the dust-problem. Any detailed pic would be appreciated.
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Yeah Me too!
OK, people, just put some neutral silicone between (in the gap) silver plastic frame and touch screen (there is just 0,2 -0,5 mm gap, almost invisible) and you wont get any dust under the touch screen. This is the best solution, you could do it from inside, but its much more complicated...
pedroo said:
OK, people, just put some neutral silicone between (in the gap) silver plastic frame and touch screen (there is just 0,2 -0,5 mm gap, almost invisible) and you wont get any dust under the touch screen. This is the best solution, you could do it from inside, but its much more complicated...
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What exactly is neutral silicone? Do you have a picture of it so I know what to buy?
I'm about to buy the TD2,
is it so big problem this dust under the screen?
Does it happen often?
luca T said:
I'm about to buy the TD2,
is it so big problem this dust under the screen?
Does it happen often?
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I've had it for about a week and the user I bought it from had it supposedly for about 3 weeks and so far no dust. I'm still terrified its going to happen though.
pedroo said:
OK, people, just put some neutral silicone between (in the gap) silver plastic frame and touch screen (there is just 0,2 -0,5 mm gap, almost invisible) and you wont get any dust under the touch screen. This is the best solution, you could do it from inside, but its much more complicated...
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Thanks for the pic, pedroo - so they simply should have glued the digitizer surface a bit more careful to the housing...
...thinking a bit about applying the radical solution - not sure yet
To make a long story short:
I must have somehow put too much pressure on the digitizer to create a "newton ring" which in turn would not allow me to use the touch feature of the digitizer. I sent it to HTC USA to repair it. They noticed the "newton ring" as well as the modified ROM
They would not warranty the "newton ring" and said they would not repair the Digitizer due to the fact that it had been "hacked". They would replace the Digitizer, LCD and internals for $389.00. I told them they were smoking crack.
After paying HTC $25.00 for doing nothing they sent the phone back and I went online to order a Digitizer. I paid $17.00 which included shipping and I got it within 7 days.
The HTC service manual does not have a guide on how to replace the digitizer or the LCD. They really don't want you messing with it.
It was scary and I thought I had ruined the phone when I pryed the front of the unit open. At first the sticker to the digitizer came off(black framing) and then you have to pry the digitizer(its pretty stiff) from the frame. I destroyed the thin cable that led to the backside of the LCD but the new one has one already attached so I wasn't worried about that part. The LCD with a metal base plate is attached to the back of it. You have to slowly pry off the LCD from the backside of the digitizer.
Anyways I have assembled it back and everything is working perfectly. It was doing Micro-Surgery at times.
Just wanted to share my story.
Congratulations!!
mrmomoman said:
To make a long story short:
I must have somehow put too much pressure on the digitizer to create a "newton ring" which in turn would not allow me to use the touch feature of the digitizer. I sent it to HTC USA to repair it. They noticed the "newton ring" as well as the modified ROM
They would not warranty the "newton ring" and said they would not repair the Digitizer due to the fact that it had been "hacked". They would replace the Digitizer, LCD and internals for $389.00. I told them they were smoking crack.
After paying HTC $25.00 for doing nothing they sent the phone back and I went online to order a Digitizer. I paid $17.00 which included shipping and I got it within 7 days.
The HTC service manual does not have a guide on how to replace the digitizer or the LCD. They really don't want you messing with it.
It was scary and I thought I had ruined the phone when I pryed the front of the unit open. At first the sticker to the digitizer came off(black framing) and then you have to pry the digitizer(its pretty stiff) from the frame. I destroyed the thin cable that led to the backside of the LCD but the new one has one already attached so I wasn't worried about that part. The LCD with a metal base plate is attached to the back of it. You have to slowly pry off the LCD from the backside of the digitizer.
Anyways I have assembled it back and everything is working perfectly. It was doing Micro-Surgery at times.
Just wanted to share my story.
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How did you attach the digitizer to the LCD? Aren't they glued together or something like that?
Because that's where my attempt went terribly wrong: Instead of getting the digitizer off my LCD, I broke my LCD... I bought a new complete screen unit because I didn't know how the LCD is attached to the digitizer!
The digitizer is semi-glued to the LCD panel which sits on the back along with the thin metal cover. The digitizer has a thin flat connector that connects to the back of the main board on the bottom. I slowly pryed off the LCD(grayish white in color) from the back of the Digitizer. It came off and I aligned it back up with the new digitizer and the glue residue left over from the LCD adhered to the rear of the new Digitizer. the tricky part is the thin connectors that attach to the mainboard. You have to get a pair of tweezers to pull it from the flat connector. When you get the digitizer you will see the new connector. Attaching that and the prying of the LCD was the hard part.
I read somewhere some guy said he broke the LCD but in truth it wasn't the LCD that he broke. He pryed apart the 3 layers of the Digitizer and thought he ruined the LCD. I thought the same thing orignally then I when the whole LCD/Digitizer was in my hand I was looking realized that the LCD was the grayish/white panel on the back. One can easily peel away the top 2 layers of the digitizer and would think that it could be the LCD they ruined.
I hope that makes sense. It was the first time I did this and I didn't see the video where someone removed the Screen. I only saw the Russian guy who didn't finish the job because he was stuck at the end. I just figured it out the hard way.
Also the T6 works but I think a t5 would be better. I only had a T6 and it did the job.
I am so glad I wore gloves or I would have had some major finger prints all over the unit
mrmomoman said:
The digitizer is semi-glued to the LCD panel which sits on the back along with the thin metal cover. The digitizer has a thin flat connector that connects to the back of the main board on the bottom. I slowly pryed off the LCD(grayish white in color) from the back of the Digitizer. It came off and I aligned it back up with the new digitizer and the glue residue left over from the LCD adhered to the rear of the new Digitizer. the tricky part is the thin connectors that attach to the mainboard. You have to get a pair of tweezers to pull it from the flat connector. When you get the digitizer you will see the new connector. Attaching that and the prying of the LCD was the hard part.
I read somewhere some guy said he broke the LCD but in truth it wasn't the LCD that he broke. He pryed apart the 3 layers of the Digitizer and thought he ruined the LCD. I thought the same thing orignally then I when the whole LCD/Digitizer was in my hand I was looking realized that the LCD was the grayish/white panel on the back. One can easily peel away the top 2 layers of the digitizer and would think that it could be the LCD they ruined.
I hope that makes sense. It was the first time I did this and I didn't see the video where someone removed the Screen. I only saw the Russian guy who didn't finish the job because he was stuck at the end. I just figured it out the hard way.
Also the T6 works but I think a t5 would be better. I only had a T6 and it did the job.
I am so glad I wore gloves or I would have had some major finger prints all over the unit
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Thank you for your explanation! But I'm still not going to attempt this on my own any time soon... We'll see... Maybe I'll change my mind if my digitizer is broken or scratched...
Respect man! You mentioned that you bought digitizer for $17. Is it possible to buy mainboard for Touch HD from that place? Can you please advise where I can get it. And how much it will be?
Got to love a bit of micro-electronics DIY!
This just shows that HTC are taking people for a ride - there are a lot of people who would have just paid the price they stated. As you've only replaced the digitizer, shows they were taking the mick with the LCD and otherwise, what are these "internals" that HTC said it needed I wonder...??
Just replaced the digitizer on my HD and it took about 1.5hrs. As long as you're very careful, it's not that hard at all.
Make sure you have the Service Manual though as it was a great help.
Have you got the link for the service manual?
Ive just had to order a Digitizer as my phone has decided it doesnt want to work anymore (6 months to go on contract too ffs).
Managed to get one from a UK seller with tools for £17 so im happy.
KickAssMoves said:
Have you got the link for the service manual?
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It's in the wiki.
WelshWarior said:
Just replaced the digitizer on my HD and it took about 1.5hrs. As long as you're very careful, it's not that hard at all.
Make sure you have the Service Manual though as it was a great help.
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Hi:
How did you get the digitizer separated from the LCD?
I was thinking of putting two suction cups (1 on the back of the LCD, and the other on the front of the digitizer), heating everything up for a couple of minutes with a heat gun, and then pulling them apart holding the suction cups.
Does that make sense?
Thanks.
mrmomoman said:
To make a long story short:
I must have somehow put too much pressure on the digitizer to create a "newton ring" which in turn would not allow me to use the touch feature of the digitizer. I sent it to HTC USA to repair it. They noticed the "newton ring" as well as the modified ROM
They would not warranty the "newton ring" and said they would not repair the Digitizer due to the fact that it had been "hacked". They would replace the Digitizer, LCD and internals for $389.00. I told them they were smoking crack.
After paying HTC $25.00 for doing nothing they sent the phone back and I went online to order a Digitizer. I paid $17.00 which included shipping and I got it within 7 days.
The HTC service manual does not have a guide on how to replace the digitizer or the LCD. They really don't want you messing with it.
It was scary and I thought I had ruined the phone when I pryed the front of the unit open. At first the sticker to the digitizer came off(black framing) and then you have to pry the digitizer(its pretty stiff) from the frame. I destroyed the thin cable that led to the backside of the LCD but the new one has one already attached so I wasn't worried about that part. The LCD with a metal base plate is attached to the back of it. You have to slowly pry off the LCD from the backside of the digitizer.
Anyways I have assembled it back and everything is working perfectly. It was doing Micro-Surgery at times.
Just wanted to share my story.
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i just had mines fixed called them told them wat i did that i found an outer sreen and tryed to replace it myself and completely destroyed the lil black screen inside of the 4screens put together and that my device software was moded now i had 469 out going and another 469 incoming calls they only charged me 113 but wen we first talked about it they did say about 350 until they see the device and then they will call you before the repair it but the did wipe out my device and reinstalled the oem rom they also gave me a full new body and zero'ed out the incoming and out going calls which never changest unless they put in a new mother board which makes my phone brand new
sorry if ive missed it, but how do you get the lcd and digi out from the black outer casing frame to start with ??, from what i can see it comes out by somehow pushing from the inside to make it pop out ?? could someone please explain a little bit more on how to do this, ill try and make a vid of me getting it out as i have yet to find one that shows this, also my screen has that wierd pearl essance look to it?? does this mean its the digitiser.
Cheers
Mike
pickie said:
sorry if ive missed it, but how do you get the lcd and digi out from the black outer casing frame to start with ??, from what i can see it comes out by somehow pushing from the inside to make it pop out ?? could someone please explain a little bit more on how to do this, ill try and make a vid of me getting it out as i have yet to find one that shows this, also my screen has that wierd pearl essance look to it?? does this mean its the digitiser.
Cheers
Mike
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Mine had that pearl essence look to it for a good few months before it broke, not that im sure that has anything to do with it.
Just awaiting the delivery of the digitizer and hopefully I can repair it.
yeh mine had the pearl effect for a long time prior to it dyeing
ive followed the service manual and the video of the guy who gets stuck near the end, but how do you g et the screen out of the casing to get to the digitizer?
Its one hell of atight fit and i cant see anything o bvious.
Help
Hi Guys
Sorry about the late replies - had phoneline probs!!
Assuming you followed the instructions in the Service Manual to take the rest of the phone apart, you've just gotta be VERY careful and push the screen out from the back (where the Circuit Boards where) of the plastic frame. At first, it feels like it's not budging but be patient and it WILL start to push away.
It seems to be held in with some sort of hot glue or maybe a contact sort of adhesive and I didn't try it but some heat from something like a hair dryer may make the job easier.
Many people have cracked their LCD screen during the repair but as long as you're careful not to bend the screen too much when taking it out, you'll be fine.
I peeled the 3 layers (outer glass ones and then the Digitizer itself) off the LCD whilst removing it.
Good luck - it's really not that hard. Any more questions - just ask ;-)
ive got the phone apart to the point of the service manual/video
which part of the back do you push out? doesnt look obvious as to whats attached and what isnt
Once you get to the last stage (I thinks it's the Speaker Removal) you simply push on the metal protector of the LCD from the back. You will see small holes in the plastic of the back of the frame where you can push something blunt through and push very lightly on the LCD to push it out.
If I remember correctly, at the bottom of the phone where the circuit board with the vibrator and microphone on it was sitting, there is quite a large opening with the metal backing of the LCD visible through it. I started pushing there and gently went all around the phone in the various small holes dotted around it.
As I said above, it won't feel like it's working at first but it will - just be patient and not too heavy handed!
I dropped my phone and need to replace the housing. It looks like the digitiser cannot be easily removed from the housing, so I bought one of these as well. Now all I have to do is move the phone from the old housing to the new and install the digitiser in the new housing.
Now it looks like the digitiser may have been glued in place. What type of glue should I use ?
::Pixel.Freak:: said:
I dropped my phone and need to replace the housing. It looks like the digitiser cannot be easily removed from the housing, so I bought one of these as well. Now all I have to do is move the phone from the old housing to the new and install the digitiser in the new housing.
Now it looks like the digitiser may have been glued in place. What type of glue should I use ?
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More liked taped in...... I'm sure that lots of people will respond with.. Double sided 3M tape.... but if there's anything better/stronger than that on the market use it. Make sure it''s really thin tape to. I'm gonna be replacing my housing in the next month or so aswell. Goodluck.
As I also will replace mine digitizer, the newton rings are bugging me, it will be appreciable if you can share your experiences of the replacement process.
thanks in advance and god luck
Hey on more thing. I took apart my phone last night and put it back just so I know my way around when parts come in.
If your Digitizer does not work try loosening the top srews 1/4 turn. You have them on too tight.
I wasn't replacing mine so I didn't have to remove the existing one. All I had to do was attach a new digitiser to a new housing.
I was told that double sided tape was the best, so I tried that.
I used the instruction from http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-diamond2 which was easy enough.
You need to ensure you remove the micro SD card first.
Also I forgot to move the LED diffuser from the top, so I need to repeat the process at some stage.
The housing I bought had a number of issues
* The two screw point near the bottom of the housing didn't have the metal inserts with the screw threads
* There was no seal between the metal housing and the LCD screen. This could let dust in.
That's about it for a brain dump.
Hi there,
I was also tired from that oil stai and ordered a new digitizer from these guys:
http://xxx.sw-box.com/htc-touch-diamond-2-t5353-digitizer-touch-panel-screen.html
Surely it arrived in 6 days, to my horror it was a generic display,
Had some trouble removing the old one, ended up breaking it
The generic did not fit snugly, I had to sand down the edges to make them round, also had some trouble with the four buttons below getting stuck when pressing down, (shaved of some extra plastic). anyway used double sided scotch film to get the digitizer back in place.
apart from a few difficulties, it works like a charm.
Should have ordered an OEM but what's done is done
Next time I'll do the cover and get a new digitizer
Regards
I would of thought double sided tape too thick to use to stick the digitizer on.
I was thinking of using a very thin sliver of clear silicone.
Anybody tried this or have any other suggestions?
Thanks
I used a very thin layer of supergleu and it worked great!!
My digitizer came pre-glued. I didn't need any sort of glue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715724
Silicone is OK
I used a very thin layer of black silicone and placed a book on top of the digitizer to keep it pressed flat into the case as it dried overnight. No problems since then...
The missing metal screw inserts can simply be pulled out of the old housing ; insert screw halfway and gently pull with plyers. Carefully hammer into the new casing; insert screw 3/4, put something thin and metal on top to prevent the screwhead from getting damaged and carefully hammer into the void. Make sure it goes in straight.
I've got exactly the same issue with my new housing, no bottom screw threads and no foam for the lcd to rest on. Am trying to pull the threads out with pliers but I think the old case is going to break first or strip the threads.
This is isn't an easy job
have finally finished this epic!!!!
had to break the bottom screw threads out of the old front housing and took a good while hammering them into the new housing so I didn't break it.
used a small sliver of clear silicone to glue the digitizer in which seems to work well so far.
Have not put any foam or anything for the LCD to rest on, time will tell what effect this has.
I need to change mine as well. Where can i buy a good quality digitizer and case preferably pre-glued?
I found a few on ebay but i am not sure of the quality.
Thanks
Today i searched also for shops which have digitizers and housings. I have found 2 shops, but one of them is a german shop (http://www.mobileok.de) which does not deliver outside of germany and austria. But the other one does: http://www.sw-box.com/
what kind of glue? it's the third time that i'm re-gluing it, but dust keeps coming inside....
I guess, it is not possible to hermetical seal the housing. I had dust in my original housing too. There are a lot of small gaps everywhere not only between digitizer and frame. But it would be easy to disassemble the device from time to time, remove the dust and reassemble it again. Save your energy in the effort to make your device dust proof.
My HD2 finally developed the dreaded unresponsive touchscreen problem this week after just over 2 years use and as I'm now out-of-warranty I've decided to replace the lcd/digitizer myself.
Searching XDA and youTube for inspiration threw up a lot of scattered information, some useful and a lot more that was wrong and misleading so i'd like to establish a thread here with all the right answers provided, in detail.
This should also be of interest to those with dropped phones and smashed screens.
So far I've discovered:
- my unresponsive touchscreen is a hardware (not software) issue; caused by damage to the digitizer cable accumulated over time by repeated presses of the power button, to which it is physically adjacent.
- if the cable is only slightly damaged, a temporary fix might be achieved by pressing on the power button until the touchscreen starts responding again and then avoiding pressing the power button thereafter. ie. letting the phone timeout to sleep automatically and waking the phone up by pressing one of the other buttons rather than the power button.
- a permanent fix involves replacing the digitizer which requires an almost complete teardown of the phone. I'm open to any other suggestions from posters for say, repairing the cable although I haven't seen any as yet.
- although only the digitizer needs replacing, it's easier (albeit slightly more expensive) to replace the LCD and digitizer as a unit, which is the same part whatever version of HD2 you have.
- The disassembly procedure is fiddly with a lot of easily-breakable cables and connectors.
I've already acquired the LCD/ digitizer (part no. 60H00300-00P) from ebay, for £22.99 shipped, which was a pretty good deal as the standard UK price seems to be ~£38. The cheapest I found for the digitizer only (without LCD) in the UK was 11.95 shipped. The difference in price wasn't worth the extra installation hassle for me.
other required items are: a T5 torx screwdriver, a small jeweller's screwdriver set, tweezers, a guitar pick, an old credit card or similar, superglue (or double-sided adhesive tape) and thin (2.5mm?) single-side adhesive tape. also reading glasses or a magnifier might be handy depending on the quality of your close vision (i'm 54 so mine lacks somewhat).
This is by far the best instructional video I have found to date:
http://mperlitsch.hintergrundbild.com/htc_hd2.htm#Zerlegeanleitung
.. unfortunately its in German, which mostly isn't a problem as you can see what he is doing, except at the end as he describes (at length, rather than showing) the final step of superglueing the new LCD/ digitizer into the phone chassis, where i thought I might have missed some important details. Perhaps any German-speaking posters could fill us in on that procedure?
The above website also accompanies the video with some text descriptions of the various stages of disassembly which I will get google- translated into English.
There is another useful-looking instructional site here (hi-res pics, no video):
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HTC+HD2+PB81120+Screen/5651/1
Finally there are also some leaked official HTC breakdown videos on youTube @720p here:
disassembly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=player_embedded
reassembly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=player_embedded
I'll keep the thread updated as I go and I would welcome any help or tips from anybody that has already been down this road.
My aim is to develop a foolproof instructional guide that almost anybody can follow to extend the life of this great phone.
I've read that german thread as well and I'd agree that it does seem to be a very good guide, to read it in english open the page in chrome (or search for the thread in google) and let google translate it,
Step 32 for example translates to Step 32: Now as in step 31 and proceed to the bottom of using each 1 drop of superglue and moisten with clothespins along with the 30-minute fix waiting / drying time. In the bottom right where the flex board stops at the edge of the touchscreen and LCD connector watch film. There, only the metal bridge very carefully and very economical with wet glue. Important: Use sparingly only at the marked positions superglue! Never close the buttons at the bottom, even if the lure still should be as large. It is held there by our HTC special adhesive film wonderfully.
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I've read that german thread as well and I'd agree Step 32: Now as in step 31 and proceed to the bottom of using each 1 drop of superglue and moisten with clothespins along with the 30-minute fix waiting / drying time. In the bottom right where the flex board stops at the edge of the touchscreen and LCD connector watch film. There, only the metal bridge very carefully and very economical with wet glue. Important: Use sparingly only at the marked positions superglue! Never close the buttons at the bottom, even if the lure still should be as large. It is held there by our HTC special adhesive film wonderfully.
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Thanks, I'll have a look and see where his "marked positions" are. i already figured from the video that he was stressing about the buttons.
As this is the only part that I'm nervous about, I'd be interested in anybody else's experience of sticking the new lcd/ digitizer into the chassis. what did you use? and how did it go?
Presumably HTC didn't use superglue at the factory. Has anybody tried double-sided adhesive tape for this?
EDIT: I've just ordered some cheap generic double-sided tape on ebay, advertised as "New Clear Strong Permanent Double Sided Self Adhesive Craft Packaging Tape".
I'm still waiting for my LCD/ digitizer part to arrive and in the meantime bought another HD2, with a smashed screen, to practice disassembly on.
my own HD2 is currently behaving itself as long as I don't forget not to touch the power button.
i've now received my digitizer/ lcd part + (noname) double-sided tape in the post.
i've also found another XDA thread speaking in more detail about the step of fixing the lcd/ digitizer back into the middle chassis here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341927
there is some debate in that thread over whether tape might be a better bet than superglue. the tape they recommend is 3M brand 2mm double-sided, for which I have sourced a supplier on eBay (item #281023942070 -- "3M 2mm x 50m Adhesive Tape Roll for iPod iPhone iPad - Transparent") for £5.99. I'm going to get a roll of that but may still opt for the superglue method ... undecided.
Mine was the same,
After seeing some videos I decided to buy a digitizer from ebay, it looked really easy on the videos. I bought one for 25€ , the ribbon cable looked strange but I decided to go on. After finishing everything the digitizer doesn't respond. I want to test the digitizer alone, any idea? I've access to a complete electronic lab, so there's no problem to use an oscilloscope or whatever.
Thanks in advance
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Mine was the same,
After seeing some videos I decided to buy a digitizer from ebay, it looked really easy on the videos. I bought one for 25€ , the ribbon cable looked strange but I decided to go on. After finishing everything the digitizer doesn't respond. I want to test the digitizer alone, any idea? I've access to a complete electronic lab, so there's no problem to use an oscilloscope or whatever.
Thanks in advance
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sounds like you might have bought the wrong digitizer. You know there are 2 types, soldered and solderless (plug-in) which have different connectors?
Any pics? How did the disassembly go otherwise?
in the german video i posted, he shows how to reconnect the ribbon cables and test the lcd/ digitizer before glueing it in and reassembling the phone.