In 2.2 FRF85B, if an app supports 2.2's built in apps2sd, when you install it from the Market, it AUTO installs ONTO the microSD card!
Go ahead, test it yourself with these 2.2 apps2sd compatible apps:
AK Notepad
FeedR
FML, Android
LED Tester
Movies
Pandora
Titanium Backup
World Newspapers
obviously there's more, but these are the ones I used and reinstalled from a fresh wipe on FRF85B, and they were automatically installed onto microSD card.
Didn't do it for me....but Titanium Backup did get an update and you can now click move to SD card in Applications menu.
didnt auto install for either :/
SiL3nTKiLL said:
didnt auto install for either :/
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You can set the flag to 0,1 or 2. I believe 0=Auto, 1=Internal and 2=External. Maybe your flag is set to 1 (internal).
It works for me. I have never installed world newspapers before on this phone, so that also eliminates the possibility of the phone "remembering" this setting. I checked and it automatically installed to sd.
There is also a possibility that the developers of the app can set them to automatically install to sd card... but unlikely, since all those apps on your list automatically went to the sd card, not just some of them.
depends on the installLocation attribute: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/manifest-element.html#install
I downloaded world newspapers and it automatically went to SD card and I'm on FRF83 : )
The developer sets a flag in the app for Auto, Internal or External.
Most of them set it on Auto, so the phone automatically installs on the card if you have low space on the internal memory.
I remember having a newly downloaded app auto installing straight into SD, i was back on FRF72 back then i think. Dont remember app name though.
At least developers are using it properly.
What is not clear to me is how "auto" setting will be handled in this scenario: first few app2sd supporting apps with "auto" attribute are installed to the phone memory, then a bunch of non-apps2sd apps is installed and phone space becomes low. Will Froyo at this point move apps2sd automatically to SD card? Hopefully it will, but need to double check that.
sergey.povzner said:
What is not clear to me is how "auto" setting will be handled in this scenario: first few app2sd supporting apps with "auto" attribute are installed to the phone memory, then a bunch of non-apps2sd apps is installed and phone space becomes low. Will Froyo at this point move apps2sd automatically to SD card? Hopefully it will, but need to double check that.
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Developers have two choices when they install the app:
Internal
External
If they choose internal, and there is room, they go internal. If there is no more room, they get installed on external.
If they choose external, they get installed on external.
I don't believe the OS will move your apps without you prompting it to do so.
From here:
internalOnly:
The application must be installed on the internal device storage only. If this is set, the application will never be installed on the external storage. If the internal storage is full, then the system will not install the application. This is also the default behavior if you do not define android:installLocation.
auto:
The application may be installed on the external storage, but the system will install the application on the internal storage by default. If the internal storage is full, then the system will install it on the external storage. Once installed, the user can move the application to either internal or external storage through the system settings.
preferExternal:
The application prefers to be installed on the external storage (SD card). There is no guarantee that the system will honor this request. The application might be installed on internal storage if the external media is unavailable or full, or if the application uses the forward-locking mechanism (not supported on external storage). Once installed, the user can move the application to either internal or external storage through the system settings.
So the issue arrises with this scenario:
1) install some apps2sd supporting apps with "auto" attribute to the the phone memory (cause that's the default). Phone memory is ok.
2) install a bunch of non-apps2sd apps.
3) phone memory low. Get a warning.
4) Now need to go and manually move apps2sd supporting apps to SD card.
Would be nice if OS would be doing that for you in step 4 since there's no easy way to know which apps can be moved to SD card without going through each app in the manage applications.
sergey.povzner said:
So the issue arrises with this scenario:
- install some apps2sd supporting apps with "auto" attribute to the the phone memory (cause that's the default). Phone memory is ok.
- install a bunch of non-apps2sd apps.
- phone memory low. Get a warning.
- Now need to go and manually move apps2sd supporting apps to SD card. Would be nice if OS would be doing that for you since there's no easy way to know which apps can be moved to SD card without going through each app in the manage applications.
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That's right.
Apps2SD seems to be like a beta product. Besides a quick sign of which apps can be moved, the whole thing with the breaking widget is very annoying. What's the point of moving a big app to the card if it's going to break the widget...
But at least it works and saves us a lot of space while they make the whole thing better
Using Google Earth as a large app not supporting apps2sd in step 2, I just checked that all you get is a warning. OS will not move apps after installation is over.
vitorjna said:
But at least it works and saves us a lot of space while they make the whole thing better
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I'm generally happy even with this "beta" apps2sd. I'm just surprised that Manage applications doesn't have a list or sort function to display only apps that can be moved to SD card.
vitorjna said:
What's the point of moving a big app to the card if it's going to break the widget...
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Well there is no point, that's why you're not supposed to do it.
There are some large apps with widgets, such as Pandora, which would be nice to be able to move to SD, however I want to use the widget. I wonder how hard it would be for them to make the widget a separate app. That way you can move the large app core to SD, but keep the widget internal.
Also, I wonder if it would be possible for Android to do this automatically. The widget components in the package should be pretty easy to separate from the non-widget parts. Of course if this was done the widget would need to have some code to gracefully handle the cases where the SD part of the app are not available.
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So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
-edit-
I'm running Fresh 3.5.0.1 rom rooted and such
mastermarc said:
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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Maybe it's browser cache? Does the contacts storage also include text messages?
I've never used Apps2SD but if it works like the native 2.2 SD storage then it doesn't completely move apps to the SD card. I'm pretty sure that the App itself is stored in the internal storage and only non-essential data is moved to the SD card.
Nope already cleared browser caches.
SMS messages are under 5mb, (already had to fix that issue when having 3000+ messages started killing my sms program)
But whats weird about this whole thing is that it's not like i went on an app installing spree. I installed all these apps long ago and haven't messed with it much, then one day i get the low storage space issue.
try "disk usage" in the market. its free, and it should show you what's using all your free space.
dschoenike
Cool this works, shows:
Data
Applications 310MB
Contacts storage 157.3MB
System data 78MB
Free space 39MB
Guess i'll start digging through it
mastermarc said:
this is only good for your storage card.... Same thing i can do by plugging it into my computer.
I want the same thing but for internal memory
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really? when I use it, it shows storage card and application storage. sorry, thought that's what you were looking for (application storage I mean).
dschoenike
oh cool. glad its working for you.
Award Tour said:
I've never used Apps2SD but if it works like the native 2.2 SD storage then it doesn't completely move apps to the SD card. I'm pretty sure that the App itself is stored in the internal storage and only non-essential data is moved to the SD card.
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This seems to be the case, i've got (303MB-157contact storage=146MB) in "Applications" even though the apps2sd program only shows something like 76mb
57MB under "System Data" Anyone else know if this is reasonable?
Uninstalled a few apps, namely the video messenger add on for yahoo (until it goes down in size or i actually find someone to video chat with)
so i'm up to 66MB free...guess that will be ok for a while.
not sure whats normal regarding system data space, but I'm at 12.2mb, im running cm6.1. just an fyi cause I saw you were in the 50's.
mastermarc said:
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd.
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I almost forgot to mention that you must be rooted and have a rom that supports it. I use myn's.
If your evo phone is root, there's an app in the market call install manager , you'll be able to install your app on the SD Card, with no problem.
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Sounds like you have a **** load of apps. I have like 20 right now but I have 350 MB of free space. I imagine I would have to have a hundred in order to be that low. However I am rooted and I got rid of most of the Sprint crap.
Sent from my EVO 3G!
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
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I'm having the same issue. How does one move the dalvik to sd?
Swyped from my EVO
To enable dalvik to cache you must flash a rom that has that feature. I don't believe its possible with stock/non superuser (unrooted phone)
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
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Could you explain the part in bold? Anyway here is what i did and what my results were.
So since i have a rooted rom i went ahead and installed this via the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
Doing this alone brought me up to 81MB (from 39)
Then i followed the instructions for the command line interface of darktremors a2sd here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
I opened up terminal and typed in:
cachesd
-Moves Dalvik cache files to the ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your secure digital card. Creates Dalvik Cache to SD flag.
It immediately restarted and now it shows i'm up to 174MB available space
I booted back into the terminal and ran
/system/bin/a2sd check
I found an X next to one of the things about apps, so i ran the repair.
/system/bin/a2sd repair
It forced closed 2 apps and then restarted itself
At this point it went down to 130MB on reboot
Went back into a2sd and ran check again, the [X] on the apps part is now a [!]
So i ran
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall
Waited for that to do its thing, force closed something or other and then rebooted itself
Upon reboot i'm back up to 173MB free, rerunning a2sd check shows no [X]'s so that all looks good.
Everything seems to be working as of now with a good amount of free space so that's where i'm at.
If you move apps with widgets to the sd with apps to sd, the widgets won't load. You gotta leave those on the phone.
Are you using just the native froyo "move to sd" kind of functionality or are you using the DarkTremor's Apps2sd root functionality?
It sounds like you're just moving the apps that have that support moving to sd card, with the other method ANY app can be installed to your sd card.
mastermarc said:
Could you explain the part in bold? Anyway here is what i did and what my results were.
So since i have a rooted rom i went ahead and installed this via the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
Doing this alone brought me up to 81MB (from 39)
Then i followed the instructions for the command line interface of darktremors a2sd here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
I opened up terminal and typed in:
cachesd
-Moves Dalvik cache files to the ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your secure digital card. Creates Dalvik Cache to SD flag.
It immediately restarted and now it shows i'm up to 174MB available space
I booted back into the terminal and ran
/system/bin/a2sd check
I found an X next to one of the things about apps, so i ran the repair.
/system/bin/a2sd repair
It forced closed 2 apps and then restarted itself
At this point it went down to 130MB on reboot
Went back into a2sd and ran check again, the [X] on the apps part is now a [!]
So i ran
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall
Waited for that to do its thing, force closed something or other and then rebooted itself
Upon reboot i'm back up to 173MB free, rerunning a2sd check shows no [X]'s so that all looks good.
Everything seems to be working as of now with a good amount of free space so that's where i'm at.
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That's good. What I mean about the bold part is that anything you install will automatically go to the sd. If you create a widget or shortcut, upon reboot it probably won't show unless you do a hot boot. To avoid that, just go to settings, applications and move the app to phone and it should work fine.
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lloydcabraham said:
That's good. What I mean about the bold part is that anything you install will automatically go to the sd. If you create a widget or shortcut, upon reboot it probably won't show unless you do a hot boot. To avoid that, just go to settings, applications and move the app to phone and it should work fine.
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Ah sounds good, i can manage that when i run into the issue.
What have you done to your contacts to make them so huge? Custom high res pictures for everyone? 10,000 contacts? I have a decent amount of contacts with some customizations and it takes up <10mb. You're definitely losing a lot of space there...
Not really sure, i probably don't have more than 200 or so contacts, could have something to do with all the facebook pictures being synced in or something.
So I'm new to this whole SD card thing, I've only owned the s6, which obviously, didn't support expandable storage. So my question is - is it possible to move apps onto the SD card slot? I understand there might be a performance hit, but for a lot of apps, I can careless about the performance of the storage on it.
I saw there was a "move to sd card" option for applications on the galaxy s5 - will there be something similar here?
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
mikesnav said:
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
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Thank you. That's good news all around. Now if only some games would store their data on the sd cards.
I currently move apps to my sd card on the Galaxy S5;, using a utility called "All in one toolbox". It allows me to move apps so they run off of my micro SD card. Does anyone know if this will work with the Galaxy S7 edge?
mikesnav said:
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
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But, if it is anything like past devices, it could have an option to "move app to SD". Has the removal of this feature been confirmed yet? We all know Adoptable Storage is gone, but what about App to SD? Is it confirmed missing, or are we just speculating?
Running MM on my S5 and the Adoptable Storage works so well, I hope Samsung change the mined about this.
Dr. Fed said:
But, if it is anything like past devices, it could have an option to "move app to SD". Has the removal of this feature been confirmed yet? We all know Adoptable Storage is gone, but what about App to SD? Is it confirmed missing, or are we just speculating?
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Pretty sure App2SD has been a mod / specific vendor addition since... a long time now. That hasn't been a part of Android for years. Removed in Jellybean maybe?
I don't know if Samsung has specifically written this in with the S7, sorry.
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the dudes who did a first impressions on it that an upcoming feature in marshmallow will allow to merge SD card storage with internal .... No idea how credible the dude is though
JoshuaFCB said:
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the dudes who did a first impressions on it that an upcoming feature in marshmallow will allow to merge SD card storage with internal .... No idea how credible the dude is though
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That is a Marshmallow feature but Google has encouraged manufacturers to remove that feature. The LG G5 and the Samsung S7 phones do not have it.
David Ruddock from Android Police says.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
PDXMatt said:
That is a Marshmallow feature but Google has encouraged manufacturers to remove that feature. The LG G5 and the Samsung S7 phones do not have it.
David Ruddock from Android Police says.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
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Is it something that be acquire through rooting?
I've got the option to move apps to SD straight out of the box. Go to the Apps, find the app, go to Storage. It's there. Not every app has it but lots do.
Apps on SD Cards Disappearing from Edge
I was able to move some downloaded apps to the SD card. Then I put a few on the Apps Edge. But I found that, if I reboot or power off/on, the apps (not just the icon, but the apps themselves) disappear from the Edge. Has anyone else seen this?
You can do it through adoptable storage:
https://youtu.be/H31UOrXJKH4
I got my S7 Edge yesterday & love it.
However I'm having trouble transferring apps to the SD card. In my case, I can successfully move the app via the Application | Change Storage Location option BUT when I look at the SD card in a file manager, it has only moved the folder structure & the app files remain in internal storage.
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
Cheers.
runwaypimp said:
I got my S7 Edge yesterday & love it.
However I'm having trouble transferring apps to the SD card. In my case, I can successfully move the app via the Application | Change Storage Location option BUT when I look at the SD card in a file manager, it has only moved the folder structure & the app files remain in internal storage.
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
Cheers.
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I am having the exact same issue. Says it moves the apps, but the internal storage and SD card usages do not reflect this; the corresponding directories on the SD are size 0 and empty as well.
go to settings/aplication manager. find the app you want to see if it can go to SD and go to Storage. There you can see if there is Change button .
i mooved many apps to my SD but when i restart my phone i didnt had worked apps.
gpap2004 said:
go to settings/aplication manager. find the app you want to see if it can go to SD and go to Storage. There you can see if there is Change button .
i mooved many apps to my SD but when i restart my phone i didnt had worked apps.
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Sorry but the only thing that happens is a folder is created on the SD to store the app. data. Nobodies apps are moving over to the SD card.
Why does it seem that with every iteration of Android, we have to revisit workarounds to get 3rd party apps the ability to read/write to external storage? What is the point of having up to 200GB of storage for only native apps to use? I'm not even talking about Adoptive Storage, which is an entirely other ridiculousness. A lot of the apps I use have been fortunately been updated to explicitly ask for permission from the OS, but is there a way to just tell Android to give it up to all apps? Particularly those apps that are slow/no to update?
-Thanks
P.S. I fully anticipate needing to revisit this nonsense with Android N
The big issue with adoptable storage and running apps from the SD card is speed. This is why Samsung and LG both left it out. If you use an SD card for adoptable storage the whole system will slow down. Then people complain of long startup times for apps. Not realizing that the issue isn't from Android or the phone but from the SD card. If you want to load apps to the SD card you can. But the trade off is slow load times for those apps.
arsmithsr said:
The big issue with adoptable storage and running apps from the SD card is speed. This is why Samsung and LG both left it out. If you use an SD card for adoptable storage the whole system will slow down. Then people complain of long startup times for apps. Not realizing that the issue isn't from Android or the phone but from the SD card. If you want to load apps to the SD card you can. But the trade off is slow load times for those apps.
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Just speaking for myself, I bought the 64gig extreme and moved all apps that would let me including games. Now if I reboot it takes forever to load up everything. But once everything is loaded and it settles down, I only notice a extremely small lag. Barely noticeable. I think your card read/write has everything to do with it. My racing games play flawless.
Granted you know and can tell and you know you did it. Most wouldn't and then would complain of slow speeds. They would also throw a cheap card in there and then wonder why the phone was so slow. I can see why Manufacturers would not put that functionality in there. I work in IT and see these type of things all the time.
I can understand (and live with) the limitation for adoptable storage. However, I do not understand why 3rd party apps (most of them) cannot even write data to sd card while still installed in the internal memory? Be it editing/saving pictures, saving backups, etc. Some applications can workaround it by opening a dialog where you select the sd card and the app is granted a write access to the selected folder on the card. Bot most other apps cannot do that and then fail on writing data there (some of them fail even on reading)
Anyone knows why this stupid idea was implemented and how to work-around it?
Vitore1 said:
I can understand (and live with) the limitation for adoptable storage. However, I do not understand why 3rd party apps (most of them) cannot even write data to sd card while still installed in the internal memory? Be it editing/saving pictures, saving backups, etc. Some applications can workaround it by opening a dialog where you select the sd card and the app is granted a write access to the selected folder on the card. Bot most other apps cannot do that and then fail on writing data there (some of them fail even on reading)
Anyone knows why this stupid idea was implemented and how to work-around it?
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I think I read that it was done for security reasons but it is really a PITA. No solution for that.
Vitore1 said:
I can understand (and live with) the limitation for adoptable storage. However, I do not understand why 3rd party apps (most of them) cannot even write data to sd card while still installed in the internal memory? Be it editing/saving pictures, saving backups, etc. Some applications can workaround it by opening a dialog where you select the sd card and the app is granted a write access to the selected folder on the card. Bot most other apps cannot do that and then fail on writing data there (some of them fail even on reading)
Anyone knows why this stupid idea was implemented and how to work-around it?
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Security, only say around it is for the app developers to update their apps.
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Like the title says, no one been able to make any progress on rooting this thing?
I haven't...
I don't care about being able to install custom ROMs, I just need Google Play to look at somewhere other than internal storage to update apps. I have a 128gb card and I can install whatever I want to it but I can't update apps because everything wants more storage space than is available in the amount left on the device after the base OS and apps are installed to just hold the temp files to update with. If I could alias that to the memory card this would be the perfect cheap tablet. As it stands now I can't even update the built-in apps.
Schnapple said:
I don't care about being able to install custom ROMs, I just need Google Play to look at somewhere other than internal storage to update apps. I have a 128gb card and I can install whatever I want to it but I can't update apps because everything wants more storage space than is available in the amount left on the device after the base OS and apps are installed to just hold the temp files to update with. If I could alias that to the memory card this would be the perfect cheap tablet. As it stands now I can't even update the built-in apps.
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I've got the same problem. If only I could update and install apps. You know, like what a tablet is supposed to be for?
Are you using unified storage (formatted as internal) with your SD?
smileygon10 said:
I've got the same problem. If only I could update and install apps. You know, like what a tablet is supposed to be for?
Are you using unified storage (formatted as internal) with your SD?
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Yeah. And like a lot of things with Android I'm learning, nothing quite works like you think it would, especially if it means you'd have an easy time with something.
I guess on some level we can blame B&N for not putting more than 8GB in the thing. Heck, 10GB would fix the problems.
I keep returning here hoping for a miracle. I too have an SD configured for adoptable storage. But Google forces most of their own apps including non-essential crap onto internal. At this point I don't think even a base load device will function properly since updates to Google's own apps have bloated the onboard memory requirements.
Its a shame. I got these for my kids thinking they would be good low-risk devices that they could use to read, game, etc. I guess that's still partly true. The kids could use them as frisbees
I don't think Google forces their apps to be on internal. I've installed apps from the Play Store like Google Translate, and it allowed me to move to SD card. So I think it's B&N. They preinstall apps, and preinstalled apps can't be moved.
j3Eg said:
I keep returning here hoping for a miracle. I too have an SD configured for adoptable storage. But Google forces most of their own apps including non-essential crap onto internal. At this point I don't think even a base load device will function properly since updates to Google's own apps have bloated the onboard memory requirements.
Its a shame. I got these for my kids thinking they would be good low-risk devices that they could use to read, game, etc. I guess that's still partly true. The kids could use them as frisbees
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It seems that while you can move many of the apps, they move right back when updated (which happens frequently). So trying to keep enough free space on the built-in storage is a losing proposition.
mniehaus said:
It seems that while you can move many of the apps, they move right back when updated (which happens frequently). So trying to keep enough free space on the built-in storage is a losing proposition.
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Yeah. I don't even have enough space to update or install apps, even with a 32 GB SD card. Apparently the Play Store isn't smart enough to be able to download and install/update an app directly to the SD card. I've had to turn off Auto-Update Apps because it would push incessant notifications that I don't have enough space to update X app.
I also have a Nook 7 with 128GB SD card formatted for internal storage--and I can't update apps either. Storage says I have 3.14 to 3.21G (depending) out of 3.36G available storage. I'm new to this, but I'd thought formatting the SD card as internal storage would solve the problem, and it obviously hasn't for me or for several others in this thread.
Does anyone have any ideas? I don't want to root until July when the warranty runs out.
Schnapple said:
Yeah. And like a lot of things with Android I'm learning, nothing quite works like you think it would, especially if it means you'd have an easy time with something.
I guess on some level we can blame B&N for not putting more than 8GB in the thing. Heck, 10GB would fix the problems.
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They do have a new version that has 32GB.
Just bought a Huawei P10 Lite, was mainly looking for an Android 7.0 phone due to the newish Android feature of using an SD card to extend the internal memory and the P10 Lite seemed the most feature-rich phone at the price point.
To my horror there doesnt seem to be an option in the Memory & Storage options to configure the SD card as internal storage. I searched online but nothing about this phone and extending the internal storage which seems odd as I thought it was a popular phone. I noticed a post regarding the P8 where a user stated Huawei hadn't included this Android feature (seems bizarre) and they gave instructions on how to root the device and do something strange to it.
Surprised no one talking about it!
There's definitely an option to use the SD card as your main storage device in storage section as I used it before. What firmware is your on right now? It worked fine for me on my WAS-LX1AC185B172
If 32 gigabytes is not enough for you, then i don't know how much is enough. 128GB maybe?
Anyways, there is an option in "Memory & storage" called "Default location", which basically switches the internal storage for the SDcard. This is what you're looking for.
I think OP means adoptable storage - a feature introduced in Marshmallow. It merges your external and internal storage into one large pool. It, however, prevents the card from being portable. The card is formatted specifically to your device and I believe it'll cause problems with the device function if removed anyway.
I don't think Huawei supports it. I have only found the option to flip the default storage location. It may be available through some of the format options but I'm not too keen on risking it wiping my card if it doesn't give me a prompt if I was to test it.
It may be possible to force it through ADB commands. Not sure though.
Hi all yes specifically referring to adoptable storage.
I have set the SD card as "Default Storage" but in my experience it doesnt mean more than the system storing user data like photos and music on the SD card which is a no brainer really (why would a user even need to set this as an option?). Doesn't seem to be any info about what this actually does on this phone though. I can't even see an option to move Apps to the SD card on the P10 Lite but that was always a bizarre and tediously repetitive and half-hearted operation on my old Samsung S5, even if an App supported it, after an update it would just revert back to internal phone storage.
Many of my messaging apps have bloated databases that grow to over 1Gb in size after a couple of years let alone the bloatware of most apps in general. I notice that some messaging apps even keep media files inside the internal filesystem structure which ends up being the internal memory space. I would rather this was instead eating up cheap SD card space than the faster internal memory left for just the OS.
Considering that half of the phone storage is used up by the time you first turn it on, the adoptable storage funcationality introduced in Android Marshmallow is a gods send. Can't believe phone manufactures are trying to protect product placement with their 32GB and 64GB models to the extent of leaving out a flagship Android feature!
God data storage on Android is still a mess after all these years!
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Hi all yes specifically referring to adoptable storage.
I have set the SD card as "Default Storage" but in my experience it doesnt mean more than the system storing user data like photos and music on the SD card which is a no brainer really (why would a user even need to set this as an option?). Doesn't seem to be any info about what this actually does on this phone though. I can't even see an option to move Apps to the SD card on the P10 Lite but that was always a bizarre and tediously repetitive and half-hearted operation on my old Samsung S5, even if an App supported it, after an update it would just revert back to internal phone storage.
Many of my messaging apps have bloated databases that grow to over 1Gb in size after a couple of years let alone the bloatware of most apps in general. I notice that some messaging apps even keep media files inside the internal filesystem structure which ends up being the internal memory space. I would rather this was instead eating up cheap SD card space than the faster internal memory left for just the OS.
Considering that half of the phone storage is used up by the time you first turn it on, the adoptable storage funcationality introduced in Android Marshmallow is a gods send. Can't believe phone manufactures are trying to protect product placement with their 32GB and 64GB models to the extent of leaving out a flagship Android feature!
God data storage on Android is still a mess after all these years!
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The SD card isn't as fast. That's one reason they don't want you to install apps onto it. It degrades the experience. And without an API of some sort it would be difficult to implement an app structure that split the data to place non-vital data on the card. Many devices don't have slots so it isn't an area developers give much thought.
If you use the format option, does it give you any option to select adoptable storage or is it just erase?
Otherwise I guess your best option is to try look for ADB commands or maybe even root.
Edit: I found an option to allow apps on external storage in developer settings if you scroll all the way to the bottom.
I used an SD card to store my Here we Go and Sygic maps when travelling.
Until I took a break from driving one day, connected an USB OTG cable with usb stick to the device and all my maps from the internal SD were gone.
From that day on I never install any data that is used by an app on the SD card. (and never had problems with it anymore)
Documents or music are no problem.
Spotify on P10 lite
Spotify in itself is using up most of my internal storage.
How can I move the songs from there to the SD card? If I can't then remind me never to buy a phone with less than 64GB internal memory next time.
The reviews all seemed too good to be true!!
chimneytops said:
Spotify in itself is using up most of my internal storage.
How can I move the songs from there to the SD card? If I can't then remind me never to buy a phone with less than 64GB internal memory next time.
The reviews all seemed too good to be true!!
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Thanks but I do not see the Storage option in Spotify
chimneytops said:
Thanks but I do not see the Storage option in Spotify
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I just downloaded the app to check and it's there. Found it immediately.
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Under Other, I only see Delete Cache or Log Out.
I tried logging out and in again, but no difference.
So frustrating.
I cannot even send texts at the moment and I have already uninstalled loads of apps, complete disaster.
chimneytops said:
Under Other, I only see Delete Cache or Log Out.
I tried logging out and in again, but no difference.
So frustrating.
I cannot even send texts at the moment and I have already uninstalled loads of apps, complete disaster.
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I have to ask: you do have an SD card mounted, right?
Do you have the latest version of the Spotify app?
Do you have the latest ota update?
Have you tried clearing app data and cache?
Have you tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling?
However if you can't send texts then you have bigger problems. It may be related, it may not be.
Have you tried with another phone with the same sim? Have you tried a factory reset?
Did you try this???
Trixanity said:
I have to ask: you do have an SD card mounted, right?
Do you have the latest version of the Spotify app?
Do you have the latest ota update?
Have you tried clearing app data and cache?
Have you tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling?
However if you can't send texts then you have bigger problems. It may be related, it may not be.
Have you tried with another phone with the same sim? Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, SD card mounted and storing photos on it.
I have uninstalled the app and downloaded it again. I still do not see the option to store the songs to the SD card though.
What is the ota update and how do I run it?
If I clear app data and the cache will I lose all the songs saved to date?
I have yet to download all the many songs again, so that has freed up loads of storage. So I can send texts again.
chimneytops said:
Yes, SD card mounted and storing photos on it.
I have uninstalled the app and downloaded it again. I still do not see the option to store the songs to the SD card though.
What is the ota update and how do I run it?
If I clear app data and the cache will I lose all the songs saved to date?
I have yet to download all the many songs again, so that has freed up loads of storage. So I can send texts again.
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OTA update just means the latest version/update for the phone. Check for system updates.
I can't guarantee what happens to your songs but I would assume that those are not stored locally if it's just a list (you did say you cleared some out to regain space). I would assume you'd be able to access the same list from any device as long as you are logged in. Otherwise that's pretty bad design considering their business model.
If you have very little space on your phone the system will start to get sluggish and if really low system functions will stop working.
Can you tell me the version number of the Spotify app? The reason I'm asking (besides making sure it's the same as the one I downloaded) is that I seem to recall Spotify cutting support for their old app and launching a new one to replace it.
But if you do have the new app, then either something's wrong with the compatibility of your phone/sd card/app or it's because you can't switch storage while data is stored (kinda like an initial setup) hence clearing app data could fix it.
If it's still not working I may have one last trick up my sleeve.
Trixanity said:
OTA update just means the latest version/update for the phone. Check for system updates.
I can't guarantee what happens to your songs but I would assume that those are not stored locally if it's just a list (you did say you cleared some out to regain space). I would assume you'd be able to access the same list from any device as long as you are logged in. Otherwise that's pretty bad design considering their business model.
If you have very little space on your phone the system will start to get sluggish and if really low system functions will stop working.
Can you tell me the version number of the Spotify app? The reason I'm asking (besides making sure it's the same as the one I downloaded) is that I seem to recall Spotify cutting support for their old app and launching a new one to replace it.
But if you do have the new app, then either something's wrong with the compatibility of your phone/sd card/app or it's because you can't switch storage while data is stored (kinda like an initial setup) hence clearing app data could fix it.
If it's still not working I may have one last trick up my sleeve.
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Hi, the version I downloaded is 8.4.61.683 armV7
chimneytops said:
Hi, the version I downloaded is 8.4.61.683 armV7
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That's the same one I tested.
Try go into your app settings and make sure Spotify has the right permissions granted.
If it's still not working (also make sure you have plenty space on SD card) then clearing the data is probably the best solution. Apparently it deletes preferences and offline playlists (whatever that means). I'm not sure if it affects your playlists or if you can save them online so you can retrieve them later. Otherwise make a backup of: internal storage/Android/Data/com.spotify.music/ just in case.
Rebooting the phone can also sometimes help by the way.
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That's the same one I tested.
Try go into your app settings and make sure Spotify has the right permissions granted.
If it's still not working (also make sure you have plenty space on SD card) then clearing the data is probably the best solution. Apparently it deletes preferences and offline playlists (whatever that means). I'm not sure if it affects your playlists or if you can save them online so you can retrieve them later. Otherwise make a backup of: internal storage/Android/Data/com.spotify.music/ just in case.
Rebooting the phone can also sometimes help by the way.
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Thanks, what are the right permissions for Spotify in app settings?
chimneytops said:
Thanks, what are the right permissions for Spotify in app settings?
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Storage access I guess. I don't think there's explicitly an SD card permission (at least not to my knowledge).
I also wondered if you had tried formatting the SD card?