gps probs - G1 General

Hi all,
Im new to the g1 and am having a problem.
I cant get my gps to locate any satellites, I am using a rooted and unlocked g1 with no data plan and just want to use gps and not agps. I know there are satellites around as I can find them with my other cell (lg incite using just the gps and not agps). I thought it might be the rom so I flashed 3 different ones with no luck on either and Ive been searching the net and on here but cant really find any help. Does anyone have a solution?
Thanks in advance

It has taken up to 10 minutes for my phone to find satellites without the data connection to assist. How long did you wait for connection?

mdneilson said:
It has taken up to 10 minutes for my phone to find satellites without the data connection to assist. How long did you wait for connection?
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About an hour lol

mistamikel said:
About an hour lol
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Yikes! Have you tried in a different app? I don't really think it would make a huge difference, but weirder things have happened.

Ive tried 3 different ones with no luck. Allthough I did use google sky maps but I dont know if that was using the gps or not.

mistamikel said:
Ive tried 3 different ones with no luck. Allthough I did use google sky maps but I dont know if that was using the gps or not.
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What ROM are you runnning? Radio? Rooted? Can you capture a logcat (alogcat from the market makes log capturing easy)?

mdneilson said:
What ROM are you runnning? Radio? Rooted? Can you capture a logcat (alogcat from the market makes log capturing easy)?
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Its rooted and running 2.1 but Ive flashed 4 different roms from 1.5 to 2.1 and none of them can pick up the gps signal. I will try the alogcat and post back.

I am having this problem too. Without data the G1 seems useless for GPS. Rarely it would get GPS lock. I had to put back on data and now gps lock is quick and reliable.

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GPS on vx6800 Q's

I have an upgraded vx6800 and for some reason the GPS will not find the sat's . Any ideas on how to check to see if the receiver in the phone is turned on?
jray1 said:
I have an upgraded vx6800 and for some reason the GPS will not find the sat's . Any ideas on how to check to see if the receiver in the phone is turned on?
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Read this to get it working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
My vx6800 takes about 15 mins to connect and so do others with verizon. I'm not sure why the service provider would matter but it seems to take 15 mins from cood boot
shield001 said:
My vx6800 takes about 15 mins to connect and so do others with verizon. I'm not sure why the service provider would matter but it seems to take 15 mins from cood boot
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Those providers that offer an official GPS Rom upgrade to this phone offer aGPS which speeds up locking to near instant times. Verizon users can use this fix here and speed things up with the newest ROM and radio, but it is not perfect by any means. The provider has everything to do with it.
I tried that but maybe i missed a step or something I'll have to try it again
can someone explain the differnece between GPS and AGPS?
Not sure what the difference is but it works faster.
VMackie said:
can someone explain the differnece between GPS and AGPS?
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AGPS uses a server to help find your position faster then just trying to connect to sats
Here is a good explanation
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/06/23/what_is_agps
Ok thanks for the quick replys

gps wont find anything

so I bought a htc hd2 using it to type this, however gps wont lock (and kb Really is bad lol) im on o2
any ideas..
Re gps won't find anything
Hi,
A couple of questions. What software are you using? (like Google Maps). You say you can't get a lock, are you able to access any satellite? Have you selected Google Maps Use GPS Option. Have you enabled QuickGPS (Start/Tools/QuickGPS). There is a setting there to let you download Satellite data using your PC connection during Activesync which might help you if you have data issues.
Now, silly question, are you indoors or outdoors when you are trying to get a fix?. Im not always able to get a satellite fix from my living room).
Regards.
Re: gps won't find anything
Hi,
A couple of questions. What software are you using? (like Google Maps). You say you can't get a lock, are you able to access any satellite? Have you selected Google Maps Use GPS Option. Have you enabled QuickGPS (Start/Tools/QuickGPS). There is a setting there to let you download Satellite data using your PC connection during Activesync which might help you if you have data issues.
Now, silly question, are you indoors or outdoors when you are trying to get a fix?. Im not always able to get a satellite fix from my living room).
Regards.
sorry took so long to reply (keyboard really has issues ... or maybe i have the issues and just cant use it) so i came to pc to reply.
i was indoors at the time (trying to show my gf how great my phone is and shes with her iphone getting a gps location in seconds) so i was indoors , i have tried outside however and it dont seem to work, i had the same (and still do) with my xda ignito and just give up on it , but this is a new phone and i just want to be able to sit in my house and go oooh phone says im here haha.
i used quickgps however that has not helped
LOL, knowing that you couldn't get it working on your other phone might have helped in your original posting . Have you talked to O2?
gps does not care about the carrier...
BTW: What the iphone does (and your phone can do too) is the self positining using the google api. that works over the cellular network, using a table of positions where the antennas are lokated and not gps!
GPS indoors is not possible with a antenna like the HD2 or the Iphone has, aslong as you live in a "normal house" and not in some weird mobile home ect...
If it cant get a fix using google maps or tomtom outside of your house within 2minutes of not moving somewhere on the street, or the gps tuner did not even find one satellite, think of hard-resetting your phone and then try again.
if you sill can find anything your antenna might be broken so you need to return your phone to warrenty and get a new one, or yours fixed!
greetz
Intereseting, I've never actually seen a phone using nagigation software without data services from a carrier. I must live a really sheltered life. Good luck.
Usually, every GPS phone has trouble locking from inside houses, with the exception of when you are standing next to a window sometimes. My HD2 however locks in seconds when outside.
I would suggest running QuickGPS (or something along those lines) from Start->Tools, it updates the locations of the satellites so the GPS takes less to locate them when locking.
All the best,
shpatar.
cMMY69 said:
Intereseting, I've never actually seen a phone using nagigation software without data services from a carrier. I must live a really sheltered life. Good luck.
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what are you talking about? tomtom, garmin etc. never use the carrier to get a fixed gps position. thats why you call it gps, because it uses it and gps is not run by any phone carrier but by the us. forces... so you dont need any dataservice or even simcard to get your gps position with your gps-enabled phone...
larrytango said:
sorry took so long to reply (keyboard really has issues ... or maybe i have the issues and just cant use it) so i came to pc to reply.
i was indoors at the time (trying to show my gf how great my phone is and shes with her iphone getting a gps location in seconds) so i was indoors , i have tried outside however and it dont seem to work, i had the same (and still do) with my xda ignito and just give up on it , but this is a new phone and i just want to be able to sit in my house and go oooh phone says im here haha.
i used quickgps however that has not helped
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Are you using igo8? I know i had to manually set the correct com port (COM4) within igo settings before it would work.
Also you can manually set it in google maps. Try setting it to COM4 baud rate of 4800
The carrier locating in my area is useless when i am inside my house. Says i am like a mile away in the middle of a field! lol.
larrytango said:
sorry took so long to reply (keyboard really has issues ... or maybe i have the issues and just cant use it) so i came to pc to reply.
i was indoors at the time (trying to show my gf how great my phone is and shes with her iphone getting a gps location in seconds) so i was indoors , i have tried outside however and it dont seem to work, i had the same (and still do) with my xda ignito and just give up on it , but this is a new phone and i just want to be able to sit in my house and go oooh phone says im here haha.
i used quickgps however that has not helped
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As others have replied- the iPhone uses a different method of getting your position, as its GPS receiver is pretty poor (which is why TomTom needs its own GPS receiver in a dedicated cradle to work properly )
The HD2 has the best GPS receiver I've yet seen in a mobile device- no longer than 1 minute even from cold start in most cases- and I've used it in UK, Italy and Slovenia in the last 6 weeks. However, if you are indoors it will struggle.
Which software are you using to try and get a fix? Maybe it isn't initiating the GPS correctly.
The Ignito is also pretty good, so maybe you are in a 'dead' area? Have you tried in a different location?
brandi said:
gps does not care about the carrier...
BTW: What the iphone does (and your phone can do too) is the self positining using the google api. that works over the cellular network, using a table of positions where the antennas are lokated and not gps!
GPS indoors is not possible with a antenna like the HD2 or the Iphone has, aslong as you live in a "normal house" and not in some weird mobile home ect...
If it cant get a fix using google maps or tomtom outside of your house within 2minutes of not moving somewhere on the street, or the gps tuner did not even find one satellite, think of hard-resetting your phone and then try again.
if you sill can find anything your antenna might be broken so you need to return your phone to warrenty and get a new one, or yours fixed!
greetz
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i said what network i was on to imply what rom i was on (was first day with hd2 and i was typing using it .. and i wanted to make it as small as possible - hate the kb lol)
and my gf iphone does actually pick up gps in the house , mine doesnt tho.
i got a signal once since i started this when outside after about 20 mins.
i understand what you mean with regards to cell network etc and obviously that works fine .. however gps seems to not like me

GPS on Bell HTC touch stopped working

Hello Guys,
I have a htc touch (vogue) from bell. I upgraded it with the bell rom on htc site one year ago. The GPS has worked ever since. However, it stopped working last friday. In google map, it is always "seeking for satellit (0)". I tried htc gps tool, I can see some (3~6) sat in view. I can even get some gps position data (eg. $GPGGA,120214.50,4531.116641,N,07339.266674,W,0,00,1.0,0.0,M,,,,*23) but not able to fix it. I also tried hard reset and re-installing the same rom/radio. It will not come back. Can somebody help me out?
Thanks a lot
chenaway said:
Hello Guys,
I have a htc touch (vogue) from bell. I upgraded it with the bell rom on htc site one year ago. The GPS has worked ever since. However, it stopped working last friday. In google map, it is always "seeking for satellit (0)". I tried htc gps tool, I can see some (3~6) sat in view. I can even get some gps position data (eg. $GPGGA,120214.50,4531.116641,N,07339.266674,W,0,00,1.0,0.0,M,,,,*23) but not able to fix it. I also tried hard reset and re-installing the same rom/radio. It will not come back. Can somebody help me out?
Thanks a lot
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Did you check the windows Settings to see if you're still in com4 with 4800 bauds?
Yes. It is always com4 and 4800.
Have you confirmed that location is still on?
You may want to try backing up your data and re-flashing the original Bell ROM to see if it changes/resets anything. A number of variables are possible with what you described.
mrkite38 said:
Have you confirmed that location is still on?
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I played a little bit with the registry setting. It looks like the gps location I posted above is not my location but a place about one mile from my place, most likely a location of the cell phone tower nearby. I mean that information may comes from agps. I lost the location when I changed the registry gpsmode to 1.
Shidell said:
You may want to try backing up your data and re-flashing the original Bell ROM to see if it changes/resets anything. A number of variables are possible with what you described.
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Thank you for your suggestion. I will try to find the cd with the old bell rom which I really have no idea where it is. As a backup, is there a bell old rom I can use online? I just do not want to play around with the unlock thing.
chenaway said:
Thank you for your suggestion. I will try to find the cd with the old bell rom which I really have no idea where it is. As a backup, is there a bell old rom I can use online? I just do not want to play around with the unlock thing.
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Go to HTC's site, look up the HTC Touch and go to Support, you should find Software Updates and Bell should be listed as one. They're hosting the latest ROM, I'd suggest flashing that.
I am also with Bell and having the exact same problem since the weekend. I have been running NFSFAN's latest rom for the last few months. I figured it might be a temporary glitch on Bell's part, but please let us know if reverting back to the Bell firmware restores your GPS.
southcan said:
I am also with Bell and having the exact same problem since the weekend. I have been running NFSFAN's latest rom for the last few months. I figured it might be a temporary glitch on Bell's part, but please let us know if reverting back to the Bell firmware restores your GPS.
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Ditto. Same for me since weekend. Also on Bell with NFSFAN's latest rom.
southcan said:
I am also with Bell and having the exact same problem since the weekend. I have been running NFSFAN's latest rom for the last few months. I figured it might be a temporary glitch on Bell's part, but please let us know if reverting back to the Bell firmware restores your GPS.
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I can confirm restoring to online bell firmware does not help.
having same problem too, must be on there side. I guess their agps servers are down
margosmark said:
having same problem too, must be on there side. I guess their agps servers are down
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LOL...so i'm not the only one too!
I thought I screwed up my phone after flashing to android (nand) and the GPS wouldn't work, so i flashed back to nfsfan's rom. It didn't work, so I just flashed to stock...and it didn't help, hence I though I screwed up my phone gps, and came to post about this.
Little did I know....it may not actually be me...
Let us know when it starts to work...
A-GPS server from Bell appears to be down.
If you open up GPSViewer on NFSFAN's ROM after awhile it will get some satellites but not get a full lock.
I will see what sort of fix can be made for this ....
Same thing as of last couple days
Mine eventually started working after opening gps viewer from system tools and cold starting.... what a pain! also iGuidance did not pick up the GPS as before
Tarney said:
Mine eventually started working after opening gps viewer from system tools and cold starting.... what a pain! also iGuidance did not pick up the GPS as before
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how do you think us verizon guys feel we dont even have agps
Same here. My GPS was working on my Touch (NFSFAN) and Blackberry in St. John's, NL (Aliant), but I travelled to Ottawa on Monday and the GPS is not working on either device now.
In Quebec, takes longer to get a connection but still gets one...
just for reference, gps lock using vin's 23506 on a Bell touch works fine - less than 10 seconds.
I do wish nfsans would release a new rom for the vogue tho
looks like the agps servers are up again, getting good locks now

Vogue w/o service. GPS?

I've seen a ton of threads on what to do with an old and decommissioned Vogue. Almost every one says "Put GPS software on it!" Well, ok. I did that. I put NFSFans last ROM on and installed his carrier cab. Nothing else. Fire up GPS viewer and on a perfectly sunny day I can only see 1-3 GPS satellites. Am I doing something wrong?
OK, I flashed the stock 6.1 Sprint ROM and I still can't get a fix on GPS. It will sit there forever in GPS viewer saying "GPS starting up". This was my old phone and I know I had GPS working on it before so I don't understand why it wouldn't work anymore. Radio is 3.42.30.
benutne said:
OK, I flashed the stock 6.1 Sprint ROM and I still can't get a fix on GPS. It will sit there forever in GPS viewer saying "GPS starting up". This was my old phone and I know I had GPS working on it before so I don't understand why it wouldn't work anymore. Radio is 3.42.30.
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If the GPS doesn't start up, it usually means that your port and baud rate are not set properly. Make sure that you have it in COM4 with a baud rate of 4800. Also, you may want to take it back to NFS since it is a better rom altogether (including GPS).
egzthunder1 said:
If the GPS doesn't start up, it usually means that your port and baud rate are not set properly. Make sure that you have it in COM4 with a baud rate of 4800. Also, you may want to take it back to NFS since it is a better rom altogether (including GPS).
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Took your advice and flashed back to NFS. Still nothing. I see satellites, I just never get a fix in GPS status. I've let the thing sit there for 30 minutes and nothing.
benutne said:
Took your advice and flashed back to NFS. Still nothing. I see satellites, I just never get a fix in GPS status. I've let the thing sit there for 30 minutes and nothing.
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The fact that you see satellites puts me at ease because that means that the GPS is working. Try something like QuickGPS, which will give you faster locks (or at least it is supposed to )
egzthunder1 said:
The fact that you see satellites puts me at ease because that means that the GPS is working. Try something like QuickGPS, which will give you faster locks (or at least it is supposed to )
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Yeah, but I don't have a data plan on this phone anymore Quick GPS is right out then. GPS viewer has been sitting here for several hours now and still no fix. Something is wrong.
benutne said:
Yeah, but I don't have a data plan on this phone anymore Quick GPS is right out then. GPS viewer has been sitting here for several hours now and still no fix. Something is wrong.
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Can you connect your Vogue to a PC? If so, you can use theinternet from the pc for this
egzthunder1 said:
Can you connect your Vogue to a PC? If so, you can use theinternet from the pc for this
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Windows 7 PC? So far I've had no luck getting the Windows Mobile Device Center (huge flaming pile of crap IMO) to share the internet with the phone. This worked just fine on my old XP machine. Either way I don't think Quick GPS will do anything since I can't get a lock on GPS no matter how long I wait.
benutne said:
Windows 7 PC? So far I've had no luck getting the Windows Mobile Device Center (huge flaming pile of crap IMO) to share the internet with the phone. This worked just fine on my old XP machine. Either way I don't think Quick GPS will do anything since I can't get a lock on GPS no matter how long I wait.
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Well, QuickGPS is supposed to let your device know which satellites are close by so that you don't sit forever and a day waiting for a lock. I know what you mean with 7 though, I cannot even get a device to sync with the OS, which is why i still have my trusty XP machine for all my HTC needs
If you can get online,, who knows? you might get something...
Change / Renstall radio could help aslo!
t1mman said:
Change / Renstall radio could help aslo!
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He already is on 3.42.30. it could be better, but truth be told, I tried 3 different radios on mine and they didn't do much (if anything)
Yeah, now I just need to find my old XP install CD to see if I can get activesync internet working.
benutne said:
Yeah, now I just need to find my old XP install CD to see if I can get activesync internet working.
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So, you are up and running or simple feel like flashing to something else?
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So, you are up and running or simple feel like flashing to something else?
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Well, I'd flash to Android if I thought that would work but the battery life there sucks balls. So far I don't have an XP install to share the internet connection. My XP CD seems to have wandered off. I'll have to grab one of our MSDN CDs from work. I'm still not very sure even Quick GPS will help since I let the phone sit plugged in for at least six hours with GPS Test running and couldn't get a fix.
benutne said:
Well, I'd flash to Android if I thought that would work but the battery life there sucks balls. So far I don't have an XP install to share the internet connection. My XP CD seems to have wandered off. I'll have to grab one of our MSDN CDs from work. I'm still not very sure even Quick GPS will help since I let the phone sit plugged in for at least six hours with GPS Test running and couldn't get a fix.
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You might just be in a bad area. If you know someone with a Vogue, maybe you can compare and see if they are having the same issue as you.
benutne said:
I've seen a ton of threads on what to do with an old and decommissioned Vogue. Almost every one says "Put GPS software on it!" Well, ok. I did that. I put NFSFans last ROM on and installed his carrier cab. Nothing else. Fire up GPS viewer and on a perfectly sunny day I can only see 1-3 GPS satellites. Am I doing something wrong?
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If you are still having problems I know one thing you could do... sell it. I am willing to grab it from you.
im having the same issue. sprint vogue, nfs rom, just flashed radio 3.42.50 we'll see if that helps but i doubt it will.
it sees 10 satellites, only uses 1. anyone got any ideas? -_-
kay nevermind i just live in a bad spot for HTC-based gps phones. dream wouldnt sync either, had to walk a half mile lmfao
cheapusenet said:
kay nevermind i just live in a bad spot for HTC-based gps phones. dream wouldnt sync either, had to walk a half mile lmfao
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The weird part is both my other Vogue and my wife's TP2 work with GPS flawlessly. blkswanpres if you're still interested in it PM me. The screen is pretty well scratched up so it would need to be replaced.
benutne said:
blkswanpres if you're still interested in it PM me. The screen is pretty well scratched up so it would need to be replaced.
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Thanks, but I decided to move to Sprint, I have an HTC Evo 4G preordered.

No gps with Kyrillos v10 on i5800

I have flashed Kyrillos V10, but my gps didnt work My Gps see allot of satelites and connect also to them but it did not get a fix. Maybe because i put maps with data back with titanium backup. I dont know...
I know now that i get it fixed now
I install a app called GPS Status than i go to tools and A-GPS- status... , than klik Reset. That did the job for my GPS.
I hope it works for you to
Srry for my pour english
GPS issue if fixed with Kyrillos v10.1. I tested it myself yesterday.
Synchro77 said:
GPS issue if fixed with Kyrillos v10.1. I tested it myself yesterday.
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what kernel do you use?
I use CM7_kernel_OC_1.4. I believe it came with the latest ROM. Yes, GPS works but it takes a while. When I had Kyrillos v9.5 installed the GPS lock was faster though.
Hello! I have the same problem. But I found a strange thing.
In the past when I used Froyo, GPS found my location with several satellites in use (more then 3). But now I see that it may found my location without any satellites in use. It's seems that something is broken because it's needed minimum 3 satellites to find the location.
But now I see that it may found my location without any satellites in use.
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If GPS finds your location without any satellites the only explenation is that the phone uses internet connection to find your location. Maybe that is the case.
first_family said:
Hello! I have the same problem. But I found a strange thing.
In the past when I used Froyo, GPS found my location with several satellites in use (more then 3). But now I see that it may found my location without any satellites in use. It's seems that something is broken because it's needed minimum 3 satellites to find the location.
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When your wifi is on (even if you're not connected to any network) your location can be determined to about 50m about
the networks near your location. At least in Germany. I think it's maybe through the google cars which also check the wifi networks when they took pictures for street view.
Doekus said:
I have flashed Kyrillos V10, but my gps didnt work My Gps see allot of satelites and connect also to them but it did not get a fix. Maybe because i put maps with data back with titanium backup. I dont know...
I know now that i get it fixed now
I install a app called GPS Status than i go to tools and A-GPS- status... , than klik Reset. That did the job for my GPS.
I hope it works for you to
Srry for my pour english
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Thank you very much. GPS status helped me. Now I can get a fix with cold start in around 30s and with GPS on in just a view seconds. Great!
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA
Michael1101 said:
Now I can get a fix with cold start in around 30s and with GPS on in just a view seconds.
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Are you in flight-mode while using GPS, connected to Wifi or to mobile networks (2G,3G)?
I use GPS mostly in flight-mode, and it still takes some minutes (5-10) to get a fix. Even with updated AGPS-data, but with no internet connection (afterwards, waiting for the fix).
Maybe you can show me your gps.conf from the /etc/ folder?
I think it's maybe through the google cars which also check the wifi networks when they took pictures for street view.
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Nope... Here is a link how it works. (It's the same like in Google Maps: the my-location-button)
https://support.google.com/maps/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=153807

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