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Some really really simple queries

Hey guys,
I have been browsing this forum extensively for the past two days and must say there is wealth of resources here and lot of knowledge sharing.
However I find that most of the threads are bit on the steep side for a Windows mobile novice like me to understand. I just got a new HD2 few days back.
Can some one please give a one line meanings of below terms and if possible links on this site or elsewhere that can give a lay mans definition. Once I got a hang of the terms then I can go around on my own. I am sure there are many like me.
- HSPL (I saw the main HSPL thread but does not explain what is HSPL)
- Flashing
- Cooked ROM, stock ROM
- Radio
- SPL
Thanks in advance.
Metal

metal675 said:
Hey guys,
I have been browsing this forum extensively for the past two days and must say there is wealth of resources here and lot of knowledge sharing.
However I find that most of the threads are bit on the steep side for a Windows mobile novice like me to understand. I just got a new HD2 few days back.
Can some one please give a one line meanings of below terms and if possible links on this site or elsewhere that can give a lay mans definition. Once I got a hang of the terms then I can go around on my own. I am sure there are many like me.
- HSPL (I saw the main HSPL thread but does not explain what is HSPL)
- Flashing
- Cooked ROM, stock ROM
- Radio
- SPL
Thanks in advance.
Metal
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Hi and welcome!
You might want to read this wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
It should cover all of the above (it is designed for a non-HD2 device, but the explanations aren't dependant on model).

metal675 said:
- HSPL (I saw the main HSPL thread but does not explain what is HSPL)
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"HSPL" or "Hard SPL" is a bootloader. What this means is that it's software that goes on your phone which is invoked as the phone loads, and from there loads the operating system and/or presents and executes other advanced functions.
The default bootloader is "locked" so that only signed ROMs can be flashed. HSPL un-"locks" this so you can flash any ROM.
metal675 said:
- Flashing
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"Flashing" refers to writing to ROM. When you "flash" a phone you write a new operating system to its ROM.
metal675 said:
- Cooked ROM, stock ROM
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A "stock" ROM is one distributed and/or made by the OEM. A "cooked" ROM is one distributed and/or made by a non-OEM.
The ROMs you can download from HTC's site are "stock".
The ROMs you can download in the ROM forum are "cooked".
metal675 said:
- Radio
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The "radio" is the firmware that goes on your phone that controls most of its BIOS functions.
metal675 said:
- SPL
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A bootloader for the phone. The "H" in "HSPL" means "Hard" meaning it's un-"locked".

Great responses.
rp-x1,
Thats precisely the kind of url I was looking for. It explains fair bit on SPL. Are there any other pages here, perhaps one which is indexed or a step by step tutorials going further into flashing and explaining other terms?
Spike 15,
Thanks for the definitions.
So I understand that 'flashing' is a Winmo term for actually changing the core rom.
If i relate it to Windows terminology, then I guess ROM in WinMo is similar to set of custom dll, exe's in Windows that affects the core OS.
Also, what is a signed and unsigned ROM? I know in Symbian we have signed and unsigned apps but they can be self signed, I guess this must be something similar.
- Is installing HSPL (the one on this forum) recommended?
- How would I determine that I need to upgrade or change to another ROM be it stock or cooked?
For e.g. I tried installing the new HTC rom from their website but I got an invalid vendor id. I believe that is because my phone is locked to T Mobile UK. Would HSPL + a WWE ROM unlock the phone?
Thanks again.
Metal

Bringing up thread.
Can someone please respond?
Should I really install HSPL or a Soft SPL?
If it is HSPL can I use the one given on this
link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Should i use the HSPL.zip and HSPL2_RUN.zip ?
I am locked to T Mobile but want to use O2, will Hard SPL allow me to do that? Means if I do HSPL and then flash a WWE rom
Thanks

Metal,
Before you do anything there has been early Tmobile USA hd2's out there so i have to ask... do you have a hd2 from europe or from USA.
the new TMobile USA hd2 has SPL 2.X.X, the hspl you see around is for the europe one and WILL NOT work on TMO USA HD2.
U asked if it was recommended... well it does void the warranty... but you can go backwards if needed to send into repairs, but that scares some people in to even attempting this for a 500-800 dollar device.
Now away from that part of it, yes unlocking your phone allows you to flash these "cooked" roms into your phone... which by theory will make your phone work faster, better, and do things it "should have" out the box. There are normally little treats as well as built in software that makes your experience better because you don't have to load on apps and slow down your phone because they are already "cooked" into the ROM.

Boredtonite,
Thanks for the reply.
I am on T Mobile UK, so I assume that it is the European version.
I had a look at few vids on youtube regarding flashing and then reverting it back, so it does not look that difficult to me.
Only thing that I want to know is if I should do it, if yes which is the correct version I should use.

Can anyone provide me the link to the correct version of HSPL that I should use for my T Mobile UK phone
Also once I run that is it recommended if I flash the HTC wwe rom from its website?

HTC hd2 dead.

I accidently flashed Duttys Leo M-Lang 6.5.5 Series V1.4 [WWE] instand of the Duttys Leo HG V1.9 into my htc hd2 tmobile version. now the phone is dead, won't boot into bootloader, won't recognize usb too. Is there anything i can do about it. pls help me to get my phone working again.
Thank you.

nothgd said:
I accidently flashed Duttys Leo M-Lang 6.5.5 Series V1.4 [WWE] instand of the Duttys Leo HG V1.9 into my htc hd2 tmobile version. now the phone is dead, won't boot into bootloader, won't recognize usb too. Is there anything i can do about it. pls help me to get my phone working again.
Thank you.
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hmm... if u can't get into bootloader i don't know how to help you...
i'm sorry man but if u bricked ur phone, there's really no way back..

sorry to hear that.. ='(

If you flash an incorrect rom then it is bricked and no way to restore it, sorry.
This is why I state in BIG letters over and over to make absolutely sure you are flashing the correct rom on a 1024LEO.
Only thing you can really do is take it back and ask for a replacement if its still within the first few weeks of owning it.
Mark.

Thank you for all the reply. I bought it right on the launch day. I will try to bring it back to tmobile.

nothgd said:
Thank you for all the reply. I bought it right on the launch day. I will try to bring it back to tmobile.
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Buyers remorse 14 days/30 days in Cali or if out of the window use your warranty. Good luck

mskip said:
If you flash an incorrect rom then it is bricked and no way to restore it, sorry.
This is why I state in BIG letters over and over to make absolutely sure you are flashing the correct rom on a 1024LEO.
Only thing you can really do is take it back and ask for a replacement if its still within the first few weeks of owning it.
Mark.
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This is becoming a common theme and to be honest, it's very easy for a rookie to make this type of mistake as we're seeing over and over again. There needs to be more of a clear standard for labeling these threads for the US HD2 where mistakes can easily be made. Looking through the titles of the threads, you'll see ROMs labeled...
TMOUS
TMOU
T-MOBILE
T-MOB
US TMob
US HD2
There just seems to be a lot of work put into making these ROMs which we are all extremely grateful for, but not much effort into making sure people are clear which ROM needs to be flashed. When you add in premium, regular, lite, etc versions, it becomes even more cluttered. Just me 2 cents.

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dornstar said:
This is becoming a common theme and to be honest, it's very easy for a rookie to make this type of mistake as we're seeing over and over again. There needs to be more of a clear standard for labeling these threads for the US HD2 where mistakes can easily be made. Looking through the titles of the threads, you'll see ROMs labeled...
TMOUS
TMOU
T-MOBILE
T-MOB
US TMob
US HD2
There just seems to be a lot of work put into making these ROMs which we are all extremely grateful for, but not much effort into making sure people are clear which ROM needs to be flashed. When you add in premium, regular, lite, etc versions, it becomes even more cluttered. Just me 2 cents.
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Honestly bro, like mark said. What more can they implement, when it clearly says in big letters: "Only flash tmobile USA 1024 roms" i bricked my phone as well, took it back and got a new one. then again, i get your point also, maybe if the incorporate a general label like [US TMOBILE ONLY] Rom it might make it easier for noobs like my self to not make the common mistake.
PS. People JUST FREAKING READ BEFORE FLASHING.

std396 said:
Honestly bro, like mark said. What more can they implement, when it clearly says in big letters: "Only flash tmobile USA 1024 roms" i bricked my phone as well, took it back and got a new one. then again, i get your point also, maybe if the incorporate a general label like [US TMOBILE ONLY] Rom it might make it easier for noobs like my self to not make the common mistake.
PS. People JUST FREAKING READ BEFORE FLASHING.
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Any ROM that states TMOUS etc is compatible. If you still are not sure ask the person making the ROM. There is no need to put TMOUS Only as the same ROM can be also used for others.

there is plenty of warning. my sympathy runneth not. the problem is people flashing without having even tried to read up on the process. half an hour here or on google would turn up dozens of hits that clearly point out the danger, even someone that doesn't understand yet would see the warnings and be cautious....... well.you'd think so anyway.

I got a new one now. hopefully i dont brick it this time.

Good for you!
I had to double check flashing Dutty's he has like 6 versions out and only 1 is for Tmobile.

It appears that radio ROM may kill the phone.
Just make sure the ROM is compatible with 2.08.50.xxx radio.

Have to be tmobile customer to get warrenty phone? Is prepaid card customer count?

Sometimes it hard to relate when you are on a different level
I have been messing with PC's for twenty years.
But I must admitt. I was confused at first to what rom was what.
You might want to add to the how to flash a rom thread. a little more detail about the information describing the rom.
I know you stated in the how too 2.5 or higher. I think an example would help or change the wording. Just trying to help! Not being rude. I appreciate all I have learned from you all.
Thanks!
- CE OS 5.2.23549 (23549.5.5.0)
- Manila Version 2.5.20121412.1 <<< this will work for USA HD2
- Based on WM 6.5.X (upper icons)

hi,
i flash a t mobile hd2 with original rom htc italy, but the phon is died. it don't go to bootloader mode. can i make somethingh?
bye

antocuba said:
hi,
i flash a t mobile hd2 with original rom htc italy, but the phon is died. it don't go to bootloader mode. can i make somethingh?
bye
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Do you not read the stickies especially ALL the warnings in my flashing guide telling you to make absolutely sure the rom is compatable with your device. You cannot flash non Tmobile based Roms on a Tmobile 1024LEO.
I dont think there is anything you can do if you flash an incompatable rom onto your 1024LEO. The only thing you can do is take it back where you got it, say its not working and face the consequences.
Mark.

mskip said:
Do you not read the stickies especially ALL the warnings in my flashing guide telling you to make absolutely sure the rom is compatable with your device. You cannot flash non Tmobile based Roms on a Tmobile 1024LEO.
Mark.
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+ Eleventy Billion!!!!1
Read people, READ!!!!

My cdma vogue was easy to flash even cooked my own personal roms for it, I have had my tmo hd2 for about 3 weeks now, and will probably spend about another week or two reading before I begin flashing it, this gsm stuff is just way too far out of my "comfortable" zone. Too many varients of the phone too. People need to spend time and RESEARCH a bit before attempting something they have never done before.

antocuba said:
hi,
i flash a t mobile hd2 with original rom htc italy, but the phon is died. it don't go to bootloader mode. can i make somethingh?
bye
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You can go to your community college and take writing lessons. WTF!

what rom this is my setup

ok i have had many htc phones and flashed them all BUT the hd2 seems like there is a greater chance of bricking the phone so i finid it better to ask before i make a mistake so....i want to flash to this rom and want to know if the radio i have is ok and if everything else is right before i do i have read the noob starter guide but still confussedhere is the stuff i have
os 5.221889
rom 2.10.531.1
radio 2.08.50.08.2
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
thanks
joe

joey1117 said:
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
joe
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Sounds to me that you do in fact have a TMOUS T8585, if not, why are you posting in the TMOUS forum??
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
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if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
go here, do some (make that lots) of reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614

joey1117 said:
ok i have had many htc phones and flashed them all BUT the hd2 seems like there is a greater chance of bricking the phone so i finid it better to ask before i make a mistake so....i want to flash to this rom and want to know if the radio i have is ok and if everything else is right before i do i have read the noob starter guide but still confussedhere is the stuff i have
os 5.221889
rom 2.10.531.1
radio 2.08.50.08.2
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
thanks
joe
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I received my SIMUNLOCK code from TMO like 2 days after I got the phone. I have personally flashed just about every rom in this section and mine is still SIM UNLOCKED. Hope this helps..

sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe

No sim unlock just install HSPL for TMO 1024 and choose any of the available roms. HSPL is needed to flash ROMS. There are other methods but HSPL is the best way. Also read about task29.

joey1117 said:
sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
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All the roms in this section Are T-mobile based roms so no worries here about the radio version as they will all be right, As long as you stay in this section then you are good.
As far as the jailbreak for the Icrap goes the sim unlock is a work around not a true unlock. If you get the code from ATT and enter it then it never has to entered again.

ok thanks guy i just wanted to be sure thanks for the info really helped
joe

joey1117 said:
sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
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Entering a code into the phone which was generated for that specific phone is a little different that tweaking iPhone's Software to allow a SIM card other than AT&T to be used with the phone. HTC given the codes out so there is no reason to try to tweak the HD2 to unlock it with software.

[Q] [Newbie] Need full guide from start to install WP7

I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )

MrPhilo said:
I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
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Dude, your asking for trouble on this one, see when you started this thread did you notice the the list of similar threads that comes up?
Its been asked time and time again and some folk on here can get very very vocal when people keep asking the same questions without looking at the quite obvious theads and stickies detailing what you need to do
Another question, have you searched at all? ok i see the search function is still down so will let you off that one, but there are various stickies at the top of the Q&A section for WP7 that will help
Im not going to detail everything you need to do, but i will give you a basic list, you can find everything you need either on the stickies on the various HD2 forums, or in the Wiki, remember most of what you need to do before you even think of installing WP7 is on the standard HD2 forums.
Anyhow, here goes, (note whilst you cant search on xda developers you can (and i always use this because its much better) seach via google, use strings like "XDA DEV LEO install HSPL")
first things first you need to unlock the device, so you will need to find and follow the directions for installing HSPL
you will then need to install the correct Radio, if you have the TMOUS 1024MB HD2 you must be very careful as flashing incorrect Radio will give you a brick, most HD2s are not this version unless you live in the states. search the HD2 WP7 stickies to find out which radio
then you will need to install the MAGLDR 1.13, use google if the XDA search is nackard, search for strings like "XDA DEV LEO MAGLDR install how to"
once thats taken care off your ready for WP7, boot to MAGLDR and get it ready for a USB flash and away you go.
Im not doing this to be rude, because i could have just as easily wrote down eveything you need to do, im doing this to help you, if you read the threads you will "learn" whats going on, you will see some of the issues other people have had and you will see how they fixed them, me telling you what to do wont teach you anything and you will be back on here starting new threads about something equally well documented.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923997
note, its very unlikely you will brick your device, unless you have a 1024MB version and flash the wrong radio, more often that not, when people report bricked devices they simply have to go to boot loader mode and flash a new ROM, a stock ROM would put you right back to a factory default, radio and all. so dont panic about that, there is also the SD card flash if you cant do it via USB for any reason, but in all my years ive never had to do that.
oh an use a class 2 or 4 SD card, might not work but its a better chance than others.

Hey sorry about that, I tried searching as mention by you which didn't work. I thought the stickies threads was just rules, didn't know it includes links.
Also where can I find these radios on xda instead of some other website?
Also what's the difference between 512MB and 1024MB? Well of course it's double memory.
My phone is from UK, so i guess it's a European model?
I know I could search for these information but I thought this might show up on google search for other newbies. Thank you for helping me

1024=Tmous=USA
512=Rest of the world so you have a 512 (rom , not ram)
You can find all radios in the wm6.5 dev section (HD2 is a wm6.5 phone after all ^^ )

two words mate,
read up.

MrPhilo said:
Hey sorry about that, I tried searching as mention by you which didn't work. I thought the stickies threads was just rules, didn't know it includes links.
Also where can I find these radios on xda instead of some other website?
Also what's the difference between 512MB and 1024MB? Well of course it's double memory.
My phone is from UK, so i guess it's a European model?
I know I could search for these information but I thought this might show up on google search for other newbies. Thank you for helping me
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good luck!
Look, if you have questions then ask but make them specific, like the two you just gave and the radios arent on a very obvious location as ^ has mentioned, if its a UK phone you have nothing to worry about, WP7 cant use the extra 512MB of ROM anyway
remember though, google is your friend!
try search for "XDA DEV LEO radios" on google without quotes
the one you want will be the first thread or if not it will be within the top 5 XDA DEV results
same for HSPL and MAGLDR
if you get stuck youve had a look about an cant find what you are looking for then drop a question, an just say, look ive tried this this and this but im buggered if i can work it out, can you guys help
and perhaps once your done you could give complete step by step guide including all links and downloads, because your right, its not all in one place but it is all there.

One thing you MUST NOT DO is use a USA Raido to update your 512 HD2 cause you will brick your phone and it's gone till you find someone who can jtag your
phone and fix it which will cause you alot of money. Make sure you read up before
trying anything.

WP7 is quite tempting, I agree.
Though, I must admit, I'd be a little wary about installing it, as it seems like it's still quite new.
If you want to give it a shot though, I recommend picking a build out of those listed here, and reading through all the instructions and comments before deciding to install it.
Also, before you try anything, be ABSOLUTELY SURE your stuff is backed up. I can't say how many times I've lost things on my phone because I've accidentally updated a ROM without say, backing up my contacts.
I now use Google Sync to keep all my Windows Mobile and Android contacts backed up, so this doesn't happen.
I'd recommend setting up a google account, and following these instructions to backup your contacts with your google account prior to trying anything.
Anywho, bestest of luck!

CrAzYiaN said:
One thing you MUST NOT DO is use a USA Raido to update your 512 HD2 cause you will brick your phone and it's gone till you find someone who can jtag your
phone and fix it which will cause you alot of money. Make sure you read up before
trying anything.
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europe can flash 2.xx.50.xx and 2.xx.51.xx on 512mb UK version
ok, since this is the only thing that can give you a really bad day
download this radio here
http://www.multiupload.com/QP0IWGY42F
you will find everything you need about radios on this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
The directions are on that link above but basically you will also need to get two other things
Custom RUU, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4798017&postcount=1
that is the flashing program its self, when you download a radio it wont have an installer, it will be just a single file, you will need it to flash any WM6.5 ROM or radio but usually the ROMs will have one included.
HSPL, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5279234#post5279234
this is the really important bit, this "unlocks" the device and gives you a layer of protection should you screw it up, which is most unlikely anyway download the attached file in post number 4, its the most recent and covers pretty much anything
righty once you have all that on your PC in a nice easy to find location its time to start modding it!
HSPL first, download the program and follow the instructions on the HSPL thread, which is more or less, run the program with your phone connected and charged up, IF it cant do it then it will tell you. For WP7 you MUST install HSPL2.08 when prompted.
once done, you will not notice any difference.
now follow the directions for installing the radio you downloaded use the CustomRUU, firstly extract the file then rename the extracted file to "RUU_Signed.nbh" and flash with the CustomRUU by just placing them both in the same folder (no other files in there) and running the customRUU
THAT is the hard part done, next is MAGLDR, let us know how you get on with that

MrPhilo said:
I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
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Mr Philo have you got your activation code for WP7? Just dont waste your time flashing WP7 until you get a code from Microsoft.
And yes the search engine on here is not very good, but as the others said use Google.
Also when I started using XDA, i spent loads of time reading through most of the threads. And yes I read a lot before I even started to think about flashing.
But we were all Noobs, and we will help you out when you get stuck?
Also go to this thread for all info :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478

Hey guys thanks for all the information! I just downloaded all the files that are needed and named them step by step in a folder.
First I can't check what SPL version I have. I did hold down the lower volume button down, but it only brings me to the 'vibrate, silent etc adjustment' (Yes i was holding it for 20 seconds). And it says do a reset, while holding down?? How can I do that. Sorry I know im failing already !
EDIT: Flower thankyou for the thread, but I was using it as well ! But its just the SPL bit im confused at :\
Oh yeah, I have already got a code yesterday from the UK Microsoft, was very easy

Start in bootloader mode. Shut down the phone / push and keep the vol down button and press the power button once...and wait 5s

Edit: Just saw its already answered above

Sakem said:
Start in bootloader mode. Shut down the phone / push and keep the vol down button and press the power button once...and wait 5s
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Thanks, my SPL is 3.03.000!! So I need to flash a ROM or something to get SPL 1.42.0000?
I currently don't have a SD card with me right now as I left it at home and will be going home next week. So is there anyway I can flash a ROM without using a sd card?

You need to flash an old rom to get an old spl, then flash HSPL 2.08.
No need for a sd for this, juste start your phone in BL mode and execute the ruu from your pc

Which ROM should I download from the HTC website? I mean theres a few ROMs for HTC HD2.
Theres ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 - 2010-10-11
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 - 2010-01-25
etc?
Sorry for all the questions !

I used this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995 (the Standard Version) as it already have the phone unlocked etc and have no problems with it...and had no problems activating it as well. However a lot of the other ROM's now also have your phone already unlocked etc...and most ROM's at the moment should be pretty similar as it uses the same base files.
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However...on this ROM...one of the first XAP files you should load is the Connection Setup.xap

omarza said:
I used this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995 (the Standard Version) as it already have the phone unlocked etc and have no problems with it...and had no problems activating it as well. However a lot of the other ROM's now also have your phone already unlocked etc...and most ROM's at the moment should be pretty similar as it uses the same base files.
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Sorry I mean't from HTC website to get the SPL 1.4... , I don't know which one to download on the HTC website!

Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898128 and at the bottom you will see a post explaining a bit more with this link to ROM's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623283
Let me know if that's what you are after?

yes that totally solved all my issue! thank you very much

How Do I Change the Radio ROM?

i got static on my hd2 when i make calls. it was suggested that i change the radio rom to hopefully eliminate the static. i've never modded an hd2 phone before. i got a stock 6.5 on it. i hope its possible to change the radio rom without modding the stock 6.5. how do i change the radio rom? what are the steps?
i ask ONLY serious ppl to reply, no trolls or negative ppl.

You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.

*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.

samsamuel said:
*laughs till chokes*
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Shame on you Sam

samsamuel said:
*laughs till chokes*
Seriously, tho, you will get way better help with this attitude than your other earlier thread
Good luck.
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listen, stop f***ing harassing me already!!! no one has an attitude, the only one with it is you! you harassed me on the other thread and youre on the verge of getting banned on this one!! get off my thread!!

T-Macgnolia said:
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. good to hear from u again. ok, i read your message on my other thread. below are my current specs. but honestly, this phone shouldnt make any static calls whatsoever. its brand new. it should make CLEAR calls right out the box and i shouldnt have to flash it with any roms as a result.
os version: 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
manila version: 2.5.20181424.0
rom version: 3.14.531.1 (04666) WWE
rom date : 9/29/10
radio version: 2.15.50.14
protocal version: 15.42.50.11W
it looks like i got the most current version of the radio and stock rom.
but to be honest, all this flashing sounds risky and complicated. i already owned TWO hd2s and they gave the same static. i sent the 1st one to htc for repair TWICE and it came back unrepaired. i bought a 2nd hd2 and it had the SAME static. at this point, i cant beleive that any hd2s are static free. are you guys sure u dont have static everytime someone talks on a call?
also, this loser, samsamuel, is harassing me and i dont know why!! i STRONGY urge u to ban this guy from my thread and any of my future threads. he harassed me in my prior thread and hes creating problems on this one.

Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.

lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers

samsamuel said:
Lol, I was calling you on your bad attitude, not harassing you but enough said, I'll not post in your thread again.
Best of luck with your defective Leo.
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T-Macgnolia i'll be sending you a private message about this troll.. please read.

ASCIIker said:
lol "i'm not paranoid, they really are out to get me!"
i just want to add a few things:
1. you shouldn't HAVE to mess with your device. in an ideal world, it should work out of the box. but such is life...
2. the rest of us don't HAVE to help you...but we do, and for free! mind you, samsamuel's thoughts and posts are valuable and insightful, and i guess any "attitude" you received was probably well placed because your conclusion in your previous thread was based on statistical evidence when we all know that "correlation doesn't imply cause and effect". finally, your "how to change radio ROM" query has already been well answered and well documented on these forums, just search and read!
and now for the thread topic:
1. having the latest version of the radio doesn't mean it is the best version for your combination of network+location.
2. i honestly don't know for sure why you get static on every hd2 you have owned. the odds of getting a lemon so many times in a row are astronomical! mine works just fine. a friend and i brought our hd2s together from the same guy on the same day. his hd2 works fine also. my uncle has two hd2s, both of his work fine. another distant relative has an hd2, and given the pattern, you'd be correct if you guessed that his works fine too. no static on any of these hd2s!
3. are you using a TMOUS sim in the phone? have you tried another sim? have you tried demonstrating the problem to a TMOUS representative in-person?
4. is the device sim free, i.e. can you try another network's sim in your device? worth a shot...might be a long standing network/tower problem in your area.
anyway, cool down dude, don't be all paranoid, no one is harassing you in the true sense of the word...just slightly using the "stick" approach to nudge you into doing more reading and research of your own. it sure beats the whole process of posting->waiting->getting harassed->posting some more->waiting->so on. cheers
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i dont want your help.. dont comment on my thread anymore.

Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers

T-Macgnolia said:
Member ASCIIker is correct as it could be your SIM card giving you issues as the HD2 has been know to act kind of funky with some SIM cards. I would see about getting a new SIM card and see if that may solve your issue. You have the current up to date ROM and Radio on your HD2 so it is more than likely a issue with something besides the HD2. Try the a new SIM and then post back here with the result.
Cheers
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hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.

koolxx said:
hi, magnolia.. i tried a different sim, which was a pre-paid sim, and i still get static everytime someone talks on the other end of the call.
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Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
I assume since you said it was a prepaid card you do have your HD2 SIM unlocked, Ialso know you-know-what what SIzm unlocking is as you talked about it in the first thread I seen you in.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.

T-Macgnolia said:
You change the radio just like you do a ROM you can flash it via USB are flash it via SD card. Download thw Radio you want to flash and put your HD2 into bootloader by holding down the volume doen button while powering on your HD2. Connect it to you computer via USB and wait for the Serial in the white bar of bootloader to change to USB and then flash the radio.
Be adviced though with a stock ROM if it is a 3.14 ROM these ROMs are ver dependant of what radio version you have on the phone. They need a 2.15.50.14 or 2.14.50.02 radio. If you want to use any lower radio version than these you will need to flash a custom ROM, but they may still give you issues as most of the very resent custom ROMs are based of 3.14 stock ROMs
Do not forget my wartning from my other post about what radio versions not to flash.
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Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS so that i can install the right radio ROM on it? I want one that looks exactly like WM 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.

T-Macgnolia said:
Damn that sucks man. Have you tried taking your SD card out maybe you got something funky going on with it as I have heard of some people taking their SD card out and it solving weird problems like this.
If trying different radios and another SIM card has not helped I am not really sure what could be the issue, unless there is just a bad cell tower or something in your area that is only malfunctioning on the GSM bands the HD2 uses. I find it hard to believe you were unlucky enough to get two HD2s that had the same issue causing static. Not saying it could not happened but the chances astronomical.
Have you tried different radios? It has been busy for my this week and I forget if you have.
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Oh wow, sorry T-Macgnolia. i failed to see your last reply to me before I sent you my last post to you. i havent tried a different radio ROM yet becuz i need your advice on that before i proceed. can you please read my last post to you concerning the steps and installation of radio ROMS? I'd HUGELY appreciate it. as a reminder, i got a locked TMOUS phone.
I'll await your reply.. thanks again man!!.

koolxx said:
Hi, T-macgnolia. I really need to update my radio ROM. But based on my current stock ROM of 3.14, I’m limited to only 2 specific radio ROMS. I’m using one of them and obviously, I’m still getting distortion on calls. As a result, I want to install a custom ROM to install a lower version radio ROM that’ll hopefully remove distortion from calls. As I said before, I’ve never modded an htc phone before.
Since I got a TMOUS phone, you said not to install the following cuz I may brick it:
Leo_RADIO_15.36.50.07U_2.09.51.03 **(from HTC **1.72)
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
Leo_RADIO_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07 **(from HTCWT 1.61)
Leo_RADIO_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2 (from HTC ** 1.48)
Leo_RADIO_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2(from HTC ** 1.43)
Anyway, what custom ROM do you suggest I install for my TMOUS? I want one that looks exactly like WP 6.5. also, can you provide the steps needed to install a custom ROM on my SD card.. thank you.
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Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Looking at the download folder you will find two core versions of my ROM.
* The 21916 Build which is the most reliable and bug free release. It has the Start menu button at the top left corner! I recommend you start with this first!
This is the number for the closest to stock ROMs when you go to the download link.
* The 29017 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.X series with the Start menu button at the bottom left corner and big softkeys. These builds are not as stable or perfect, but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft. These are also much more finger friendly throughout.
This is number for the ROMs that are a little more modified but still close to stock if you use the ROMs I suggested.
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Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.

T-Macgnolia said:
Yes do not flash any of those radios to your HD2 as they will brick your HD2, no might to it, they will brick it. look at the numbers I have highlighted and this is what you look for in radios that will brick a TMOUS HD2, any 2.05.50.xx radio will brick it too.
Ok the one ROM that comes to my mind when you say you want a ROM that is close to stock id the Energy ROMs as the ROM chef NRGZ28 has multiple ROM versions in that thread, all of wich IO highly recomend you just have to pick your flavor. Here is a link to the Energy ROM thread if you want to look at screen shots of all the ROMs as you might find one you like more than the ones he has that are close to stock. Here is a link directly to the post #3 which has the close to stock ROMs in it, you will probably want to go with the Eergy version are the Reference version from this post. to download click on the American flag and then select the most current version of the ROM you want.
Here is something you need to know it will help you know wich download to click on when you go to hotfix from clicking on the flag. This comes straight from post #1 of the Energy ROM thread, I added the red and blue writing to help you understand.
Click on my guide in my signature to learn how to flash HSPL to your HD2 as you will have to have it to flash a custom ROM. It has a link to where you download HSPL and complete instructions on how to flash it.
Almost forgot go to here to learn how to flash via SD card.
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hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.

koolxx said:
hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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WM6.5 Stock uses an older Windows Mobile Build.. Build 6.5.3 I believe was the when it started to be more finger friendly and in turn has the larger buttons.. So if you like how the older build looks then look for roms that have that version of WM6.5
Look in the WM6.5 Themes you might find something you like
As for Battery Life.. It all depends many factors... Some say the latest Radio has a higher battery usage while others say the complete opposite.. You must check which combination of Radio/ROM fits your location the best and if the battery is decent enough to stick with.. That why most people start out thinking they wont flash roms, but once they start having problems or want better performace they change their mind

koolxx said:
hi, T-Macgnolia. thanks for the info. i got a question. i like the 'Reference 21916 build' ROM. but, i dont like the big soft keys (action and menu) at the bottom. i like the way the soft keys look on the stock wm 6.5. can i customize it to make the bottom look exactly like the bottom of the stock wm?
do you know if this ROM is the latest version?
also, hows the battery life on this ROM? i need to make sure that this ROM doesnt drain the battery... this is very important for me.
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21916 will give you start menu in the top left corner without the big ugly softkeys... thats the other build number.
It only shows that in the pic as it seems to be the most popular version.
Battery life with energy roms tends be less than some other roms as they are optimised for speed. Battery life is by no means bad though. You should still be able to make it through a full day without worrying about running out of juice. That said, there are other roms which will give you better battery life if this is a huge issue for you.
Also, not sure if this has been mentioned yet but when trying out different radios its apparently a good idea to test it out for at least 48hrs before you decide if its making a difference or not.....

Yes koolxx as canantroutman posted the 21916 ROM will give you the same soft keys at the bottom and the same start key at the top like the stock ROMs do.The ROM you like the Reference ROM is based of the latest stock ROM so yes it is the latest ROM. So far as battery life goes I can not give any first hand feed back on this as AI have not used that ROM. What I can do though is refer you to member facdemol's "Various ROMs power consumption" thread, link is below. If you go and read his first post you can see from his test resoults that all ROMs use just about the same power as far as power consumption goes, but he does say that all around the Energy ROM does best on power consumption. Go check the thread out it is a very informative thread and project he is working on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018833