I got the HTC EVO 4g at the IO conference, had a great time over there.
Anyway, I feel like the phone sucks because of the 30fps cap, gona sell it for around 400$-450$ on ebay.
Then get the Droid X.
Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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I got the HTC EVO 4g at the IO conference, had a great time over there.
Anyway, I feel like the phone sucks because of the 30fps cap, gona sell it for around 400$-450$ on ebay.
Then get the Droid X.
Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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Nah, I like the Evo so far. And I happen to be lucky enough to be in an area that is going to allegedly green light 4G in the next few weeks (Orlando, FL). Software wise, the Droid X isn't going to be all that different than the Evo, so I'm good.
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Nah, I like the Evo so far. And I happen to be lucky enough to be in an area that is going to allegedly green light 4G in the next few weeks (Orlando, FL). Software wise, the Droid X isn't going to be all that different than the Evo, so I'm good.
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I worded my first post badly, I love the EVO, I just can't stand they ruined an amazing phone.
But that's a good thing to me if the Droid X is not very different, because I love the EVO
The thing I really like about the droid x is the oled screen compared to the evo's lcd screen that drains battery. If the evo had that it would be my top pick.
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Yeah. I'm waiting till the end of the grace period before I return it. I want to get as much use out of my evo as possible.
Returning my evo.
Too many little bugs.
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The thing I really like about the droid x is the oled screen compared to the evo's lcd screen that drains battery. If the evo had that it would be my top pick.
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droid x is oled? I thought it was lcd
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droid x is oled? I thought it was lcd
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I went back to engadgets hands on page and noticed they left that detail out. Last time they left that detail out (Evo) it ended up being LCD
jigglywiggly said:
I got the HTC EVO 4g at the IO conference, had a great time over there.
Anyway, I feel like the phone sucks because of the 30fps cap, gona sell it for around 400$-450$ on ebay.
Then get the Droid X.
Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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I've had many issues with the evo sadly.. and the screen bothers me! :\ I still have my nexus and I'm not used to this washed out look.
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I went back to engadgets hands on page and noticed they left that detail out. Last time they left that detail out (Evo) it ended up being LCD
I've had many issues with the evo sadly.. and the screen bothers me! :\ I still have my nexus and I'm not used to this washed out look.
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If it was OLED, they would be showing that off as a feature. Since they haven't said anything, it's pretty safe to assume it's LCD.
I am. Bye Evo, I won't miss your 30 FPS Novatel and horrid input lag. Or the lousy camera and sub-par video recording. I shouldn't have to root my phone to make it work right. I refuse to be stuck with a "flag ship" phone that has this many issues while hoping fixes come out. The devs working on the FPS issue are definitely awesome, props to them.
Gotta admit, the Droid X is looking pretty darn impressive. Like, tempting me to return my EVO impressive.
I was doing a quick Pro/Con analysis and came up with a lot on the DroidX side and not much on the EVO side. But the EVO advantages are very very big.
EVO pros
4G (ten times faster according to my tests)
Kickstand
Cheaper plan (We assume)
Unlimited Data (It's not clear the specific terms and condition of Verizon's data plan)
Frontfacing Camera (which is almost irrelevant to me)
DROIDX pros
Sharper Screen (say the reviews)
Physical Buttons (that I got used to with my iPhone
Works in Metro (DC area)
Faster processor
Noise Cancelling Mic
Better WiFi? (EVO has noticably shorter WiFi range in my house)
Froyo date promised (summer 2010)
Multitouch keyboard
8GB vs 512MB on-unit storage
16GB SD included
Lighter by 6oz
What am I missing about EVO over DroidX?
Droid also has image stabilization, diversity antennas, and better battery life. The screen is higher resolution and has 16 million colors (24-bit) vs the Evo's 65,000 colors (16-bit).
I think you captured all the Evo pros.
I'm curious to compare the build quality of both devices.
Does Verizon have any sort of grace period like Sprint does? Went from iPhone to EVO and I'm tempted to at least test the Droid X out. Considering the biggest pro that the EVO had going for it was the front facing camera, which kind of seems useless seeing as no one else I know bothered getting the EVO. (Which could easily change since everyone I know is getting an iPhone which does have a front facing camera).
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Does Verizon have any sort of grace period like Sprint does? Went from iPhone to EVO and I'm tempted to at least test the Droid X out. Considering the biggest pro that the EVO had going for it was the front facing camera, which kind of seems useless seeing as no one else I know bothered getting the EVO. (Which could easily change since everyone I know is getting an iPhone which does have a front facing camera).
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Yes but it's not free like Sprint. $35 per line to cancel, and they pro-rate your bill.
I am considering it. I love the EVO and think its a better phone. For me it will come down to one issue.
The 30fps/input lag issue. They seem to be tied together.
For me the EVO wins because of the front camera, kickstand and 4G.
The EVO is a very good phone, but it certainly has some major flaws. The ones that get me the most
Battery life, well it just sucks. Don't leave wifi on your screwed, my crappy 3g iphone had much better battery life.
The WIFI reception stinks,
And why the hell doesn't it have an extra 8g memory, memory is cheap and we all like more of it.
and what is the use in having such a big screen if the video quality is so bad.
And I agree you shouldn't have to root your phone to get it to work well. It is supposed to be bleeding edge but it missed the mark not by a lot but by enough.
If the battery life is better droid x will much better.
Rooting is awesome. makes the phone feel like i purchased rather than a phone im renting
Hey if you really want to own your phone why don't you paint it too or bedazzled it?
Rooting wouldn't be as bad if it magically made the battery life better or improved the wifi. It may improve the battery but it still stinks.
imho if a phone is going to be the next wonder phone it should have better battery life than a pos iphone out of the box.
Iphone almost got me again on IPhone 4 but that damn antenna shorting out is a deal breaker. What is the point of having a sleek new phone with the first thing you have to do is wrap it in an ugly plastic bumper. Eat it Jobs, guess we know why he had such bad reception.
Any ideas on what to do to keep my phone number (and have cell phone service) for 2 weeks between returning my EVO and getting a droid x?
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Any ideas on what to do to keep my phone number (and have cell phone service) for 2 weeks between returning my EVO and getting a droid x?
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I am having a similar issue. I was considering going to T-Mobile for 3 weeks and porting the number to them, then dumping them and going to Verizon. lol
Another option would be to talk to Verizon, they might be able to start your service early on a loaner phone.
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After dealing with Sprint terrible dead zones in my community and getting tired of their stupid Airave micro range, I'm moving to Verizon when their Droid X comes out july 15.
It's sucks that I'll to leave sprint great prices and decent customer service, but the Droid X ups one on the Evo in my opinion (camera shutter button, larger battery, 8gb internal memory).
My question is will all my app on my evo work on the droid x? Their screen resolution are different.
Anyone else jumping ship?
It's the same resolution.
Droid x is ugly to me, too big, and doesn't have a front camera. Takes worse pics in comparison too, and i noticed shutter lag in a YouTube vid as well.
Only thing I like about it is processor and gpu
Droid X Res: 854 x 480
Evo 4g Res: 800 x 480
From what I read.
Also the pics and video shot on the droid X looked much better in the reviews I read.
processor and GPU would be nice, not to mention the hardware buttons. I'm not a fan of slightly moving my finger down and being at the home screen, losing what I was doing.
The Droid X looks ugly to me, and I have confidence that any complaints or shortcomings felt about the Evo will be addressed by our developer community. I'm up to 50 FPS right now on my Evo with a test kernel (Rev. 0003, Nova panel, no tearing or defects).
Where I'm at (Northern Virginia), I get great Sprint service. Around 2300 kbps on 3G and just under 5000 kbps on 4G with 1 bar.
I'll be staying right where I'm at.
Droid X's bootloader is locked, big disadvantage for me. who knows if and when you'll be able to flash custom roms.
I' m not going anywhere, i love my EVO, and there will be always a new device "better" so i don't even bother
You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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burned.
haha.
sprint's been good to me. if you're an ass to custser rep, then expect them to be an ass. i've asked nicely and received a lot of good stuff from them. i upgraded my touch pro to a touch pro 2 for free in march and then several months later, was able to get my evo for the same price as new subscribers. with those buttons the droid x looks so yesterday.
I will never return to Verizon. The coverage was much worse for me and I was paying 30% more than I do with Sprint.
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I' m not going anywhere, i love my EVO, and there will be always a new device "better" so i don't even bother
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Here,here!!
Verizon is so much more expensive than Sprint. Droid X has much better hardware, but looks slightly worse.
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You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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this !!
il keep my evo
nahhh EVO is too sexxy for me to leave for a ugly DROID X.besides i get 25% off of my bill every month from SPRINT,cant beat that
As someone else posted, why would you get a phone on a network that doesn't have good coverage in your area... Have fun with your Droid and higher phone bill with Verizon though... Not sure why you needed to let everyone know that you were leaving your EVO behind either.
Verizon is way too expensive, EVO = 70 a month with unlimited mobile calling, DroidX = 120 a month, in 2 years that = $1200 more for Verizon and they are getting ready to do the 2gb data cap like ATT. Screw that LOL I get just as good of service here in S.Florida with Sprint as I do with Verizon. The only thing I like better about the DroidX is the GPU but the fact of the matter is these phones are just like our computers, the games will always be made to support the widest array of customers possible so even though the GPU is more powerful on the Droid it will still be stuck playing the same games as the rest of the Android phones. I much prefer Sense, that ui on the Droid looks terrible, I don't like the design with the big hump on top and I don't like how big the thing is, nor do I like the cheap plastic hardware buttons the EVO is much sleeker and a much nicer phone IMO.
I'm sure the DroidX will be popular though Verizon/Motorola are really good with the advertising and hype much like Apple is with the iPhone, which is a good thing, without them Android might still be where it was a couple years ago.
I think I will stick with the already rooted HTC Evo 4G with Sprint's cheaper plan.
As I said before, yeah, HTC screwed up pretty bad, but the dev community here is so ridiculously awesome I'm not even worried about anything anymore.
At this rate, I think the custom kernel will have working cameras sooner than later.
And besides, someone mentioned how Motorola is making their phones the unbreakable fortress software wise. All that headache to root a phone will paying an extra 30 dollars a month? Nty.
And someone else also mentioned, newer phones, usually better. Too bad, so sad.
You have to look at the network first and then the phone. If Sprint has bad coverage and Verizon is good then you should switch. Luckily dfw has great sprint coverage
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re coverage and jumping ship
Maybe I am wrong but doesn't sprint roam on verizon towers, if coverage is the reason jump ship stop by at the developers side there is a PRL hack to allow your EVO to solely find the verizon towers, it seams to be faster and more bars but the response time is much slower which on a mobile device makes a huge difference everything you do. the evo is a great device i really did not and still do not see any of the 30 fps cap and gpu fault till i stopped looking solely on the developers side, every game i play runs smoothly, live wallpapers run great, hd movies converted looks phenomenal and runs smoothly. i thought there where hardware limitation causing scrolling jerkiness until i install ADW and then Advanced launcher pro and it scrolled like butter. software optimizations would come.
And about the slight tint on the LCD for espon 002 screens emogamer explained it the best. its like any other lcd t.v or monitor, its like setting you t.v to cool pic/sports mode on representing the 002 and warm/movie mode representing the 003, everyone knows if you wanna use you lcd tv as a monitor, you set it on cool mode, you cold see the txt better that way and its more vibrant, same for monitors. try it open the web page showing both screens side to side with some text below switch from warm to cool mode on your lcd or monitor it pretty much the same effect, white better represented in cool mode but blacks are richer in warm mode there is also a slight tint on the cool mode but the text come out looking more defined. this is a mobile device just enjoy it for the possibilities the hardware has not even been pushed to the max, developers are still finding stuff in the code.
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As someone else posted, why would you get a phone on a network that doesn't have good coverage in your area... Have fun with your Droid and higher phone bill with Verizon though... Not sure why you needed to let everyone know that you were leaving your EVO behind either.
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QFA
I'm sticking with my EVO. The Droid X has a nice processor and GPU but everything else, the EVO pretty much has it beat in MY opinion. Some may like the hardware buttons more but, I have yet to have any problems with the EVO's buttons. On top of that the Droid X is pretty ugly. The EVO looks beautiful and elegant. No front facing camera on the DX (and believe it or not, I use it quite a bit more than I originally thought I would). And since there is no longer a 30fps cap or any touch lag on the EVO, there's absolutely no reason for me to switch because everything else works flawlessly for me.
I have no doubt the Droid X will be extremely popular on Verizon though. It's definitely a good phone, but for me, the EVO has it beat.
I got an EVO right after launch and loved it. I had a problem with the camera not working (defect). Best Buy didn't know when they were getting any back in so I canceled my upgrade and waited for the Epic. The Epic is an amazing piece of hardware. The screen has to be seen to be believed. That being said my first Epic was returned because the capacitive buttons didn't work at all. Best Buy swapped me out without a problem. My second one seemed to to be perfect (aside from the movement of the screen when the slider was closed).
After having it a few days I really liked the screen and the idea of the physical keyboard. However, I soon realized that the honeymoon phase was over when I tried to use the GPS and could only lock 1 sat no matter where I was. Then I noticed that I was getting what appeared to image retention. For example the notification bar left a faint image on the screen when on a all white screen (I only noticed cause I started hiding the notification bar with LaunchPro). Then I noticed that I could also see a faint image of the dialer buttons when on the same all white or blue screen. There are threads on here as well as other sites that detail how and why AMOLED screens have this issue. I guess the Nexus 1 had the same issue.
The keyboard was nice but the buttons were to spaced apart for me. I also didn't like the location of the power button it was awkward. I know that Samsung is "supposed" to fix the GPS but that remains to be seen. In my experience the screen was REALLY nice but if the image retention happens that easily it kinda ruins it for me. It's like the old school plasmas.
I was going to just swap it out again but honestly I expected the same problems. I called Best Buy this morning and told them what was happening and I asked if they had any EVO's and they actually received 1 white EVO this morning. They held it for me and the rest is history.
I have to say that coming full circle back to an Evo really feels great. I know on paper the Epic is supposed to be better and many like me were on the fence but the grass isn't always greener on the other side. The Evo feels better in my hand and it works. I just thought I would share my experience with switching to the Epic.
I was actually considering a switch but the more I read about it the more I want to stay with our evo
Swyped from my cm6
I took the plunge cause I couldn't get a hold of a replacement EVO. I really liked it at first but then all the negatives present themselves. The GPS is a HUGE deal for me and the image retention that I experienced was a deal breaker. I wish I took pictures of the the retention but the only camera I had was on the Epic.
I couldn't believe I found an EVO again. My new EVO came with 2.2 already on it.
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feels better in my hand and it works.
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thats what she said!
j/k, month 4 and i'm still loving my evo man
IceCreaMan said:
j/k, month 4 and i'm still loving my evo man
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That's what she said! (I'm her Evo man.)
Ha ha! Punctuation.
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I tried to use the GPS and could only lock 1 sat no matter where I was.
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This was the reason I returned my AT&T Captivate and switched to the EVO. Samsung claimed that the GPS was fixed in the Epic. Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision.
Yeah I've had my EVO since launch day June 4th, coming from the Touch Pro 2 I was honestly thinking of taking it back with in my 30 days and holding off for the Epic as well. Good god am I happy I didn't now. Even though I'm currently waiting on my 2nd replacement so in all my 3rd one since launch, it still beats all the bulls*** problems the Epic has. I mean image retention? really? The biggest deal breaker of them all has to be the fact that it's a SAMSUNG though. F*** SAMSUNG! HTC for life! I've been nothing but happy with HTC since the 6700, to the Mogul, to the Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2 and now my amazing EVO =]
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This was the reason I returned my AT&T Captivate and switched to the EVO. Samsung claimed that the GPS was fixed in the Epic. Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision.
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You know what, I was playing with my friends Epic this past Saturday, for about 4 hours, and I never got a lock on the gps, during those four hours.
meh, aesthetically the evo wins in art design. too sleek, too minimal, light red/chrome accents.... love it.
never liked samsung's cellphone designs or their logo.
would like to have the improved graphics capabilities in the evo though.
The screen issue should have been expected lol. I bet the hardware keyboad would be nice to have but I am getting better with this on screen keyboard. The multi-touch droid x keyboard is nice for landscape and swype is great for portrait.
Samsung still makes crappy phones I guess lol. On another note I have never said I "love this phone" as many times as I have with the Evo. Im afraid to upgrade to the next best thing. I feel like a freaking power house with the Evo. Yeah there are other phones with the same or better specs but man this phone just does it all and does it all well. The FPS is arguably the biggest down side and I havnt had any issues with that yet. I do have it unlocked to almost 60 FPS though with CM6.
Epic Fail
Epic Fail!!
I carry both at all times and love them both...although the evo is my main.
I got the Epic the other day, had it for about 6 days, then returned it today and put myself on the waiting list for a White EVO 4G. I got a free EVO from Google's developer seeding program, and it is starting to have that "white spot" where the B on the soft keyboard is - and it's driving me crazy. Since I was given a complimentary EVO, I cannot have it serviced. So, White EVO 4G for me it is.
The EVO is a one of a kind device. The battery drain and TIME WITHOUT SIGNAL issues on the Epic are a dealbreaker. The GPS sucks, yeah, but it still WORKS. The screen door effect on the screen sucks but oh man is that screen beautiful. The hardware keyboard is good but I found myself using Swype 90% more of the time with the Epic.
HTC makes some solid stuff, and this is definitely a solid phone. The Epic 4G had major creaking issues, instantly out of the box - and that is just inexcusable for a $249 phone. The EVO is better built than the Epic and it costs .. less? Hmm..
Anyhow, obviously we're all different, but the battery drain issues were too much for me.
Im currently in the process of switching to Sprint from tmobile and looking into these two phones. Im coming from the samsung vibrant which should be an easy transition to the epic but i dont now if i can deal with the keyboard. Ive been playing around with my freinds evo alot and LOVE the size. 4.3 in display is awesome. Most people think 4in is just right but im one of those guys that think bigger is better .
Here are my pros for both
Epic
FAR better screen.
Better battery life.
Far better 3d perfromance
Slightly Better processor
Evo
Awsome 4.3 screen size
Better Development support
Dual LED
Better design/look
Leaning towards the evo right now only because im not a keyboard guy.
I would add to your pros list:
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Far better video recording and dedicated shutter button
Evo
Froyo
Sense copy/paste
BTW, battery life on the Epic, depending on the user, is anywhere from a lot better to a lot worse than the Evo. The issue is the SAMOLED screen and the increased power consumption it needs to produce whites. If you watch a lot of video, especially movies with dark scenes, the battery will last a good while. But if you primarily surf the net and those pages are pretty much black text on white background, your battery experience will be worse. So battery life is a YMMV. Some reviewers thought it was better than the Evo, but Anandtech uses internet surfing to gauge battery life, and it was significantly shorter than the Evo when using 3G (but a skosh higher over 4G). The Evo lasted much longer over wifi.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/8
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The screen issue should have been expected lol. I bet the hardware keyboad would be nice to have but I am getting better with this on screen keyboard. The multi-touch droid x keyboard is nice for landscape and swype is great for portrait.
Samsung still makes crappy phones I guess lol. On another note I have never said I "love this phone" as many times as I have with the Evo. Im afraid to upgrade to the next best thing. I feel like a freaking power house with the Evo. Yeah there are other phones with the same or better specs but man this phone just does it all and does it all well. The FPS is arguably the biggest down side and I havnt had any issues with that yet. I do have it unlocked to almost 60 FPS though with CM6.
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Actually when I was testing the epic, fps2d showed <45fps. Tested on 3-4 phones in the sprint store.
I have had several Samsung devices. The i760, The Moment etc and EVERY one of them has GPS issues that Samsung "tries" in vain to fix down the road.
It is just frightening how you can count on some companies to make the same mistakes over and over again!
Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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Its more solid than the vibrant, but it still feels lighter than evo. I guess its personal preference. Since i got used to the vibrant is feels great. First time i picked up the evo it felt to heavy, and because of its size i could really feel it when I put it in my pocket, but loved how it looked. But after playing with it for most of that day i got used to it and had no problems
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Just curious, does the Epic have that same "cheap plastic" feel that the other Galaxy S phones have? One thing I love about the EVO is its solid, heavy feeling.
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the keyboard does feel cheap. didn't like the buttons at all.
Im moving over to the Droid X, simply because im a "need the latest greatest" type of guy, but I really love my Incredible! So if Im not happy, i hope one of you will trade me back an incredible!
You'll be back.
I'm kinda in the same boat. I have the opportunity to upgrade to either a fascinate or a droid x (saying ill give my bro my incredible and $50 so I can snatch his upgrade) but I'm not 100% sure I want to do it. Sure id like a better screen but as it stands every phone on verizon has a quirk, so I feel that no matter what I choose I will never truly be happy. For example:
Incredible: lowsy battery life unless you fatten it up a little, creaky/squeaky backplate, relatively weak graphics
Droid X: terrible menu buttons, strange hump design for the camera, could be annoying to hold at times
Fascinate: GPS barely works
So in short every phone has flaws that will make you keep going "I wonder what life would be like if I went with phone x..." People like us are truly doomed
Sent from my Droid Incredible running SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0
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Incredible: creaky/squeaky backplate, relatively weak graphics
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Wait wat????
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Wait wat????
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From the two backplates I've used, they both exhibit a squeaky/creaky noise when held from time to time... doesnt give the strongest build quality feel. I know I'm not the only one who has experienced this.
As for the graphics issue you'll notice my use of the word relative. I'm not implying the incredible is weak, but when compared to the droid x or the fascinate it certainly is. It is still stronger than the iphone 3gs, and that's capable of running that epic citadel tech demo so ill leave it at that.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0
You might be moving to the latest , but not the greatest .
I know the squeaky feel you're talking about, I forgot about it once I got a case. As far as the X, I would enjoy having a bigger screen but am not a fan of Moto phones, especially the crap Motoblur the X is running.. If I were you, I would save your upgrade for an LTE phone or something better, as the Droid X is by no stretch of the imagination the latest and greatest. rofl.
Agreed
I am not completely happy with the incredible but there are many htc phones in the works with world capabilities as well as the moto pro, that's without mentioning windows phone is dropping sometime in the next 4 months to verizon, in november to AT&T. I really don't care for anything else on the x besides the screen real estate. I have two lines available for upgrades, however, I don't see the point in upgrading right now because I love the rca outs for the incredible. I have my fiance drive me around everywhere in my titan so I can watch hulu from my dinc. Plus this is the only device I've ever owned that just works every time I call upon it. The moto droid was a big step but sometimes it would cut out in the middle of navigation, or skip when playing songs. My incredible works no matter how much I torture it I even had to scoop it from the sand with my feet underwater, I took the battery out, let it dry and it has been working for 3 months since without any issues. I am just a new tech junkie I suppose as long as their isnt a gay colored half eaten apple on it.
I agree. At this time, there simply isn't anything better out there.
... my $.02
Wait till November, the X was not a good phone IMO
There are some new phones coming to VZW in November. There is an EVO like phone coming to VZW, and it will probably be more beast then EVO.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/27/evolike-android-device-breaks-cover-possibly-headed-verizon/
There is also this one, 4" HTC slider with nice keyboard.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/04/htcs-dual-mode-cdma-gsm-android-slider-hits-the-fcc-decked-out/
There was also rumor of the HTC Scorpion 1.5GHZ processor and Froyo coming to VZW.
Im sure ill be back, I really love the inc......I have a 30day grace period, so ill weight it all out
Well, I thought I would get the T-Bolt on launch day because the Incredible needed an upgrade. Well, if you're undecided, I thought I would give my take on it.
Like the Incredible, I was the only person in-line on launch day looking to buy it. The upgrade was fairly seamless until I noticed that the VZ sales rep scratched the piss out of the top and side of the phone. Basically, I said that I don't want to be a jerk, but you scratched the piss out of my phone and I want a new one. After a small debate with the manager, I got my second T-Bolt just minutes after launch day opening.. LOL, really lol.
Anyway, here is what I noticed...
- It's heavy, really heavy. The Incredible is a great weight, the T-Bolt was border-line hand strain.
- To me the screen looked faded and not as vibrant. The T-Bolt was sharp, just not quite like my AMOLED Incredible.
- 4.3" screen is large. My hands are considered a standard mans size and typing with one hand was hell. My thumb was just not long enough to reach the opposite side of the screen for typing. Two-handed is fine and quick thanks to the screen size.
- Battery.. With only a few texts and a couple calls my battery was in the 30% range by lunch. I unplugged it around 6am. The forums were telling users to disable the 4G.. Really? What is the point of this phone then..
- Sound. It's bad. Notifications and ring tones distort bad. I would decrease the volume, but it's hard to hear the sounds the way the phone sits. The kick stand in front of the speaker was a bad idea.
- Bloatware. Plenty of that on this phone. Just like most stock HTC phones. Anyway, rooting and Titanium Backup takes care of all the crap apps.
- Speed. It's quick, sense runs fast and launcher pro ran fast as well. But, the Incredible runs fast enough for me. Running Quadrant and Smartbench gave somewhat similar results on the phones. The graphics were quite a bit faster on the T-Bolt according to smartbench.
Anyway, I think the T-Bolt is a good entry 4G Verizon phone. Personally, I am partial to sub 4" phones. I am going to wait till something a little more refined comes along (4g wise). The DInc is still an awesome phone and still has plenty of life left for me.
BTW, the T-Bolt also has a front facing camera. I was stoked about that, too bad it was mostly useless until a good app is out for it.
Thanks, useful.
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Thank you for that review.. good to know the DINC can still hold its own.. my upgrade is next January and maybe we'll see a DINC sized 4G phone by then.
I too am happy with the size of my Dinc ;o)
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Hey, thanks for your review. If HTC releases a 4" phone with the Evo 3D's specs, I would be all over that in a heartbeat!
Edit: Minus the 3D (I hope that this 3D fad dies a quick death). 3D r&d money should be spent on battery technology.
Appreciate the info. I'll be keeping my DInc! With Incredibly Reengineered ROM it's as fast as ever with GREAT battery life.
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Thanks for taking the time to give us your take on the TB.
About the battery, just remember with any new battery you need to condition it (Fully charge than discharge about 10 times) before you get good chunks of battery life.
I just love the optical trackpad on the Inc, and this is going to make it hard to leave. Unfortunately no new phones have any pointing device besides a full touch screen, and I don't know about you guys but I find it very hard to move the cursor or select text without the trackpad.
I got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the incredible. That's s whole different topic, but it was worth it. Thank you for your comparison!
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Well I grabbed the t-bolt really so i can lock in my free unlimited 4G contract and continue to pay 78 dollars a month so thats 4g for the 3g price grandfathered in saving 480+ dollars over the next 2 years more than the price of the 249 on contract price
i swap nice clean refurbs all the time with verizon so a better phone is still in the cards for me just wont be brand new...but with the past refurbs i have gotten i really couldn't tell the difference
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Hey, thanks for your review. If HTC releases a 4" phone with the Evo 3D's specs, I would be all over that in a heartbeat!
Edit: Minus the 3D (I hope that this 3D fad dies a quick death). 3D r&d money should be spent on battery technology.
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My exact feelings right now. Also without the 3D... The Incredible S(2) is said to have a 4" screen and front facing camera. And better battery.
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I would get the Thunderbolt, but honestly it didn't impress me that much. Droid Bionic looks better. As for screen size I'm switching between inc and droid X. Inc's screen is too small, but Droid X's isn't as nice. Games run 1,000 x better on droid X. So really the fascinate seemed to be the phone for me... Until the sluggish nature of it came out... So really I need a super amoled Droid X lol. Bionic's resolution may push me over we will have to see... Also I think the Incredible S may be a 4"er will have to see..
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I just love the optical trackpad on the Inc, and this is going to make it hard to leave. Unfortunately no new phones have any pointing device besides a full touch screen, and I don't know about you guys but I find it very hard to move the cursor or select text without the trackpad.
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I do agree but the optical doesn't always behave the way I would like
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I went by on Friday to take a look at the Thunderbolt. I wasn't really impressed because it didn't look like it had the HTC Hub with the navigation. There were just not too many features that would make me want to go out and get rid of my Incredible.
I am at almost a year with my Inc. Personally I agree with the OP. The Thunderbolt is too big for my taste...and sadly the bigger phones seems to be the trend. Hardware is a marginal step forward.
Cant wait for 4g to reach fresno ca but i will not be getting a tbolt
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About the battery, just remember with any new battery you need to condition it (Fully charge than discharge about 10 times) before you get good chunks of battery life.
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No, you don't. If it was a NiCad then that would be something you would need to do but a lithium battery has no "memory." In fact, a full discharge hurts the battery more than helps. These batteries like to stay charged.
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I would get the Thunderbolt, but honestly it didn't impress me that much. Droid Bionic looks better. As for screen size I'm switching between inc and droid X. Inc's screen is too small, but Droid X's isn't as nice. Games run 1,000 x better on droid X. So really the fascinate seemed to be the phone for me... Until the sluggish nature of it came out... So really I need a super amoled Droid X lol. Bionic's resolution may push me over we will have to see... Also I think the Incredible S may be a 4"er will have to see..
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I'm here doing research on my wife's Dinc, I have the Fascinate & just want to add that the lag of the Samsung rfs file system is a thing of the past if you root. Once rooted you can load a debloated, custom rom & install a voodoo kernel & then this phone flies in quadrant, smartbench & real-world performance. Battery life is usually fairly stellar as well. Don't mean to troll or anything, just trying to offer info & experience.
has anyone gone from a evo to a nexus s.. I'm considering doing this, wanted to see what thoughts are..
No but I'm going to do it once the 4g drops !!!
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I know I can't wait, have you held one before, how it the size in the hand in comparison with the evo..
The Evo is nice and all but it's just a little too big for my pocket
Yes I've played with one at bestbuy honestly its about the same size but the evos width is what makes it feel so bulky however the curve look and lengthier look make it extremely sexy . My gf even likes it. The screen and speed are absolutely fantastic
Man, now you got me going.. How can you turn down that $69.99 everything plan from Sprint..
Not to mention stock Gingerbread, beautiful
I switched from the Evo to the NS a couple months ago. The only thing I miss about the Evo is the kickstand.
Performance-wise...there's no contest. The NS just destroys the Evo in every way I can think to compare the two (gaming, everyday use, benchmarks). I mean it's not even close. Coming from the iPhone 3GS (before my Evo), this was always a major complaint about the Evo.
The lcd screen on the Evo is a bit crisper than the amoled in terms of pixel density - this really makes itself apparent on fonts - but the color and contrast ratio on the NS are so superior that it makes this a non-issue imho. I hate looking at my Evo's screen - so washed out and yucky.
Complaints about the NS are: no HDMI out and the sound output (even with voodoo) isn't up to par with the wife's iPhone 4. It's also a bit slippery, but ghost armor solves that issue pretty well. Also no HD video (as far as we know at this point).
@abn.geek: thanks for all the great info man.. I know like everyone else the dual core phones are starting to come out of the woodword, but I'm honestly not all that siked about them and doesn't really phase me.. I think because the majority of them are over 4" and that's just too big for me..
I'm excited to see the Nex in action and I feel like the raw gingerbread stylings with no crazy overlay will be a perfect place to start modding..
I left the evo bone stock so i'm excited to get a little experience under my belt
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@abn.geek: thanks for all the great info man.. I know like everyone else the dual core phones are starting to come out of the woodword, but I'm honestly not all that siked about them and doesn't really phase me.. I think because the majority of them are over 4" and that's just too big for me..
I'm excited to see the Nex in action and I feel like the raw gingerbread stylings with no crazy overlay will be a perfect place to start modding..
I left the evo bone stock so i'm excited to get a little experience under my belt
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Yeah there are only a couple games I can think of at the moment where the 2-core phones would make a big difference. Not that I don't think those phones are cool, I just don't see a need right now. Maybe by the end of summer things will be different though, who knows .
good call, I'm just wondering if Sprint is going to spit anything else out.. I heard rumors of the Xoom and Atrix, I wonder if those are going to come to fruition..
Exactly my point for waiting on the dual cores I am excited but their really isn't much of a difference in performance yet, I'm sure the nexus 3 will come with quad or dual core. But I'm honestly satisfied with the speed of the hummingbird especially with stock gingerbread
right on, is there anything not to love.. I mean from what the evo lacks in screen clarity and performance i'm sure the Nexus blows it out of the water..
I can't wait to get my hands on one...
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Man, now you got me going.. How can you turn down that $69.99 everything plan from Sprint..
Not to mention stock Gingerbread, beautiful
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Because its not 69.99....its 79.99 with any data plan so they're lying jerks. I had the evo and I loved it but I wouldn't go back if someone paid me. The nexus s is miles better.
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I had the Evo from launch till about 4 months. Don't get me wrong it is a great phone but doesn't have the raw power and beauty that the Nexus S has.
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I also had the Evo at launch, and changed to the nexus-s a couple months ago. No regrets, the NS is a more satisfying phone for me.
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has anyone gone from a evo to a nexus s.. I'm considering doing this, wanted to see what thoughts are..
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I did, and never regret it for a second. I liked the EVO, but after awhile it feels like a brick in your pocket, just too heavy and thick. Plus battery life blows, even with a great netarchy and Myn's ROM, still ****ty battery life.
The feather weight of the Nexus-S is great, and fits in your hand perfectly. And the battery life is excellent.