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So I posted my ad on craigslist. Trying to sell my x10 last night, and I got an email this morning. This is where the argument started:
I got a Tmobile 3G Nokia N900 for trade, straight trade...both your phone
> > > and Mine are the same price.
> > >
> > > I am looking to trade just cause I wanted to try something different,
> > > absolutely nothing wrong with my phone, no scratches no damage, has screen
> > > protector and box with all accessories.
> > >
> > > Let me know if you are interested and we can meet 1/2 way or something, I am
> > > coming from Sterling Virginia.
> > >
> > >
> > > Briggs
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> > > Yea I can trade you the phone but you will need to add 100$ since mine is an
> > > android device, more user friendly than yours!
>>>> Me.
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>
> > Then you would not want my mobile pc with phone capabilities, you would not be
> > able to use it.
> >
> > And mine is close to 600 bux from the store....might as well just to buy yours
> > cash.
>>>>>Briggs
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> I'm not trying to talk trash about your phone but here is my thought. Let me
> tell you what I think of the N900 and why it is not as good as X10, First it is
> a resistive touch screen you have to use a stylus most of the time, Flash
> support is way to slow on it. 5 megapixel on your camera compare to 8 megapixel,
> the N900 can only use sideways, 3.5 inch screen compare to 4 inch. In the end I
> got to say I like the Maemo OS, and the design of your phone! And the price of
> your phone is $480 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002OB49SW/?tag=ptappt-20
> Mine is
> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B003LMYOGA
> You can buy it today I can meet up with you if you want. $550.
>
> But anyway Thank you for your offer. Think about it and get back to me.
>>>>Me
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I know how much i paid for my phone and i have the receipts, so under mining the value of a mobile computer that gives browsing comparable to a desktop is kinda rude, i dont only have one browser, i have a fast mobile browser as well, the phone has been updated and it does have vertical options for the brownser, phone, and other apps.
My n900 has dvix and avi player, video output ...and now i found out the x10 has only android 1.6.....for each its own, i like you xperia but not worth my N900 plux 100 bux..
>>> Briggs.
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don't find this is rude at all, I'm just saying the fact, spec are online that where I get the info from! Also 600Mhz compare to 1GHz which one is faster think about it! Dvix player? Why would you even mention that, do you really need Dvix player to to play a video? nah I don't think so! Android market has way more apps than Ovi market.
I did not under mining the value of your phone, your phone is used and my phone is used. You ask me if I want to trade the phone with no cost because they both are in the same price rang. And the truth is no the x10 cost more than the N900.
>>>>Me.
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Tell me what you guys think. I just think our X10 is better than the N900 in every way. But when he mention we are still stuck on 1.6, I have nothing to say. LOL
You've never used a N900 before, have you? A straight trade is fair deal, in my opinion.
N900 is straight ugly, plus craiglist is full of con men.
Sell your x10 on amazon, thats what i did, i got £326 for it(after amazon took 40 pounds).
They're similar prices in the UK... free on a £35 a month 2 year contract. might not be such a bad offer.
I sold my N900 and got an xperia, and while full flash was nice on it, the lack of support from nokia for the OS was terrible. Im glad i made the swap.
I mean I would do the trade if N900 has the compatible display. I mean I like Android better but when he say x10 was stuck on 1.6, I couldn't say anything back....Why Sony is doing this to Us???? If X10 runs 2.2 or even 2.1, X10 would be one of the best phone on the market!!!
swapping n900
yes Nokia did really put all its customers down by the way they worked on N900..
I mean why did they didn't worked enough on it before the launch
the os support is the worst...
So if I were you i would not go for a N900....but that's Just Me!!
Ok so I got my X10 2 weeks ago after selling my N900.
Now lemem tell you some very first hand experience. There are only a few things why i left N900 and chose an Android device.
1. It's not fair at all to compare n900 with x10 why cus x10 is a smart phone where as N900 is a MIT.
2. N900 is completely open source i mean you can do what ever teh heck you want to. X10 isn't, atleast for now.
3. N900 sucks A$$ when it comes to the software development x10 had androi dmarket under its belt.(Personally thats the only reason i left n900, or else i'll take n900 on any device anyday).
4. N900 is a bit slower in processing but trust me not a noticeable difference. Ive been using x10 and realisticaly i find it alot slower and laggy than n900.
5. N900 has a 5mpx carl Zaiess Lens with dual led flash and the image quality is by far alo more superior than 8mps on X10.
6. DVD recording on N900 is alot more sharper than video rec on X10.
7. gigantic 32gb internal in comparison to SD is much better to me atleast.
8. Screen resolution; X10 is a bit larger in screen size but trust me the quallity and liquidity on the n900 is even better than iphone and with four screens and later modified to 9 screens on n900 is much more superior.
9. x10 is missing a radio transmitter, N900 has a dual FM transmitter.
10. N900 can play alot more vid and audio formats than x10.
11. X10 has a virtual on screen keyboard which we all know how practical it is. N900 has on screen and a mighty full qwerty kboard.
12. My fav part of N900 it has built in IM capability sucha as Skype, Gtalk, Ovi, msn, facebook etc.
13. Secondary canera on n900 wich works like a charm for free conference calls. X10 is missing one.
14. And if you're still not convinced N900 is packed with Ovi maps which enables free realtime satelite navigation without any data. X10 is missing it.
15. for hd qualuty output N900 has tv output. X10 is missing it.
16. im a heavy user and trust me on this when I tell you , ive never seen such a poor battery life as of x10. N900 has a much much better battey life.
17. Also a very important this to keep in mind is that, I mean Nokia might have ditched that device but it has a very commited community working for it day and night. Ive been a mamber of that forum and those guys are really passionate about maemo and N900.
So after all that if some one is offering you a straight trade with X10, i think its really fair. As i said N900 is like that just cus of nokia cus they abandoned that device, if it had a store like And,.Market or apple store. I will never ever pick anything over n900, its by far the most strongest and reliable device in the market for its price.
So for all those who've never used n900 in comparison to x10 please keep in mind if ur comparing smart phones please do not bring N900 in teh equation cus that not fair to any smart phone. N900 isnt a smart phone its a mobile internet tablet with phone capabilites. Hope this will help. Cheers.
the n900 is maybe on some stuff beter, but the x10 is getting better support. and android is growing, meamo is dying in my eyes...
The way I see it that technical superiority is secondary to actual usability. You can have a holographic phone with 2TB of ram and a VR interface but if you can't actually use it then there's no point to it. The important stuff works just fine on the X10: it makes calls, you can listen to music, it handles calendars, handles communications and not only that but unlike the vanilla app market I can actually buy stuff from it here in .se.
Would I like it to be better? Sure, but I can live with it in it's current state. It does the things mentioned and it does them well, except for tethering all other extras are just gravy.
On a mobile phone, we expect that the user interface, mobile-centric. It is not on the N900. With that, i mean that there is no a single key we can press for immediate access to phone functions. Instead, there is a application "Telephony" we can start. (Starts automatically on incoming calls). We can look up your contacts and call them, but we can not send messages from the phone application. Then we need to open another program, called Conversations. This program provides access to SMS services and Ovi (Nokia), Skype, Google Talk, Jabber and SIP (enter the settings from your SIP provider).
It's actually pretty much we miss on the N900.
We do not see the person's status on social sites in the contact list, and we can not send MMS.
Another, more serious problem is that we can not download mail from an Exchange Server unless this is a 2007 or newer version. Many companies, including media group Apress, running on more or less outdated Exchange Server 2003. But the N900 gives an error message when trying to connect us to the server. This error message is described as a bug on the pages of Maemo.org (developer forum for the operating system on N900).When, or if there is a fix, we know nothing about.
With full-fledged web browser, we had also looked forward to watch TV on mobile phone. But it does not work. NRK streams in Windows Media format or Silverlight. N900 allegedly support WMV, but it works at least not to this service.
TV2 web-TV does not. What is the reason we do not know, but when we come to the playback of the video stream for N900 notified that it has no contact with the network, and we have not found any place where we can define Web connection for streaming.
N900 will be able to play movies encoded in DivX, but here we support the issues. Some of the files will not play with the provided error message about lack of format support. We can not access the Sparebank1s nettbanking, running a java application logins.
No MMS support, limited media support (non-DRM support), malfunction of sync against Exchange 2003, no ability to create documents in Office to go, the GPS solution without navigation and a user interface for the enthusiast, it's our first impression that N900 falls through both mobile phone and mini-PC.
(Source: Mobilen.no)
Landscape or die
Unfortunately, it is also pretty hopeless.
Most features of the phone, with the exception of the call feature may be used only with the phone in landscape mode. It means that it is impossible to use the N900 with one hand.
(mobili.no)
But we can use X10 with one hand as well
junooni.1980 said:
and the image quality is by far alo more superior than 8mps on X10.
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Mobili.no about N900: The picture quality is quite straightforward. We think, however, that the images of treated and crisp up too much. This is not particularly good.
Mobili.no about X10: The quality of the pictures you take will be good. The images are sharp, and detail the background is not blurred.
16. im a heavy user and trust me on this when I tell you , ive never seen such a poor battery life as of x10. N900 has a much much better battey life.
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From mobili.no: N900 has a battery with a capacity of 1350 mAh. And it runs out if you use the phone to Nokia intend you to: surf the net, listening to music, using push-email and run third party applications.
We find that the battery lasts half a day. Yes. A half-day. You should turn off the Internet connection and keep your phone firmly in your pocket if you want your battery to last over a day.
We can not help but shake my head over Nokia's choice of batteries here. It's something that does not match when older and far less energy-intensive phones that E71 is more powerful battery than the powder packets N900.
Mobili.no about X10 battery: The battery is also very good. We have used GPS, seen on video, downloaded or e-mail, surfing the net, listening to music, called, written messages, installed software, and generally exposed battery that can be called intensive load. We managed to drain the battery fairly accurate one day, something that must be said to be more than the approved usage taken into account. Sony Ericsson even provide talk time in 3G network to eight hours, which is well above average.
N900 weight: 181 g
X10 weight: 135 g
N900 screen: TFT resistive touchscreen, 65K colors
X10 screen: TFT capacitive touchscreen, 65K colors
N900: 800 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
X10: 480 x 854 pixels, 4.0 inches
N900: 256 MB RAM
X10: 384 MB RAM
N900 Camera: 5 MP, 2576x1936 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, Dual LED flash, Geo tagging
X10 Camera: 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, Touch focus, image stabilization, geo-tagging, face and smile detection
N900 Video: WVGA(848 x 480)@25fps
X10 Video: [email protected] (HD within September 2010)
N900 CPU: ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX530 graphics
X10 CPU: Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon 1 GHz processor
N900 Battery: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1320 mAh (BL-5J)
Stand-by Up to 278 h (2G) / Up to 250 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 4 h 30 min (3G)
X10 Battery: Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh (BST-41)
Stand-by Up to 415 h (2G) / Up to 425 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 10 h (2G) / Up to 8 h (3G)
Disadvantages with N900:
* Large and heavy
* UI only works in landscape mode (for now)
* No video call capabilities, smart and voice dialing
* Outdated camera interface and features
* No preinstalled voice-guided SatNav application
* No voice recorder, no MMS, and no handwriting recognition
* No FM radio application (despite that the hardware's there)
* Limited third-party software availabilty
* Limited 3G support in the US (no AT&T)
Disadvantages with X10:
* No DivX and XviD video playback out of the box
* No smart dialing
* Limited storage available to the user on the system partition (you are left with only 512 MB for installing apps)
* No secondary video-call camera (or videocalling whatsoever)
* No free GPS navigation solution
* No FM radio (Bluetooth headset has in build FM Radio)
* An extra xenon flash would’ve made the very good camera perfect
* Feeble loudspeaker
X900: 5MP Carl Zeiss camera fails to impress
The Nokia N900 comes with a 5 megapixel camera with a maximal image resolution of 2576 x 1936 pixels. A dual LED flash is supposed to assist is low-light capabilities but as you know its range is pretty limited so you shouldn't expect miracles.
The Carl Zeiss certification got us intrigued at first but as it turned out the camera of Nokia N900 is just another confirmation that the device isn't exactly meant to be a multimedia monster. Now don't get us wrong - it isn't too bad or anything but it is far from the best 5MP shooters.
The quite basic user interface was the first indication that got us thinking we should probably lower our expectations. The available settings include white balance, ISO sensitivity, flash mode and exposure compensation plus dedicated modes for portrait, macro, landscape and sports shooting.
The image quality is about average for a 5 megapixel shooter. The colors are good and the amount of resolved detail is very decent too. The image noise however is pretty high, especially in uniform areas like the blue sky. And it's been some time since we've last seen a similar kind of image processing. It's a bit immature as if coming from the early days of cameraphones.
The dynamic range is also average at best, but at least the contrast is decent.
X10: 8 megapixel camera
The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 sports an 8 megapixel camera with LED flash capable of taking photos at a maximum resolution of 3264 x 2448 pixels.
Sony Ericsson have designed their own camera interface from scratch and it takes us back to the golden days of Cybershot.
At the left viewfinder bar you will find five options - capturing mode, resolution, scenes, focus mode and camcorder switch. On the opposite you can set the exposure compensation and go to the camera album.
There are four capturing modes - normal, scene recognition, smile detection and touch capture. Scene recognition is essentially auto mode whereby the X10 will determine what setting to shoot in.
There are five focus modes available - single or multi autofocus for focusing on more than one spot, touch focus, macro mode, face detection and infinity for capturing landscapes.
Finally, there is one really handy addition - the recent shot tray. It appears at the bottom right corner and shows the last pictures taken as small thumbnails.
The camera interface puts a lot of options on the viewfinder so they’re a touch away (they can be hidden of course), but to get to the rest you need the extended settings menu. It includes options like geotagging, image stabilization, self-timer, even “smile level” to tweak the sensitivity of the smile detection.
A cool, iPhoto-like feature is the face recognition. Snap a photo of someone (it works with up to five faces in a photo) and their face will be tagged – automatically if you’ve already tagged that person, or you can do it manually if you haven’t or the automatic recognition fails for some reason.
After that’s done, when viewing a photo with you can tap the name tag, which brings the options to view the contact, show all photos with that contact, or change or delete the name tag. Viewing all photos for a contact is available through the contacts entry in the Contacts app as well.
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 takes pretty good photos with excellent detail and colors. There are no visible problems with the lens or processing algorithm. There are some things here and there that need polishing, but we are more than satisfied with the results.
The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 takes pretty good photos with very low noise levels – the noise reduction algorithm does its job well and thanks to the 8MP sensor there’re plenty of pixels to work with.
The color rendering is good, the only thing to note is the X10 camera tends to leave the shadows slightly underdeveloped.
(Source: GSMarena)
Mano1982 said:
Mobili.no about N900: The picture quality is quite straightforward. We think, however, that the images of treated and crisp up too much. This is not particularly good.
Mobili.no about X10: The quality of the pictures you take will be good. The images are sharp, and detail the background is not blurred.
From mobili.no: N900 has a battery with a capacity of 1350 mAh. And it runs out if you use the phone to Nokia intend you to: surf the net, listening to music, using push-email and run third party applications.
We find that the battery lasts half a day. Yes. A half-day. You should turn off the Internet connection and keep your phone firmly in your pocket if you want your battery to last over a day.
We can not help but shake my head over Nokia's choice of batteries here. It's something that does not match when older and far less energy-intensive phones that E71 is more powerful battery than the powder packets N900.
Mobili.no about X10 battery: The battery is also very good. We have used GPS, seen on video, downloaded or e-mail, surfing the net, listening to music, called, written messages, installed software, and generally exposed battery that can be called intensive load. We managed to drain the battery fairly accurate one day, something that must be said to be more than the approved usage taken into account. Sony Ericsson even provide talk time in 3G network to eight hours, which is well above average.
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LOL! I really don't know what that mobili.no is,, But hey man Ive bulletted those points based on my first hand experience. And as Ive mentioned Im a heavy user, so once again I can tell you that all these lines uv'e posted above from this mobilo.no are just froma review or perhaps a preview. Ihave used the phone for months & turts me those facts arent accurate at all atleast in comparison to my experience.
And for those who talk about landscape.. N900 is a tablet not a phone, so no tablet comes with lanscape mode.
But hey I dont wanna be a preacher here for N900, as I said the only reason ive left N900 is cus of the lack of support and software. Imma wait for the new one to come out with meego but till then I'll tolerate and work with x10.
beside it's funny how uve just pointed 2 facts outta my 13-15 points difference. tahts clearly makes N900 a better device.
junooni.1980 said:
LOL! I really don't know what that mobili.no is,, But hey man Ive bulletted those points based on my first hand experience. And as Ive mentioned Im a heavy user, so once again I can tell you that all these lines uv'e posted above from this mobilo.no are just froma review or perhaps a preview. Ihave used the phone for months & turts me those facts arent accurate at all atleast in comparison to my experience.
beside it's funny how uve just pointed 2 facts outta my 13-15 points difference. tahts clearly makes N900 a better device.
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Mobili.no is one of the leading mobile sites in Norway. And of course it was a large review with every single detail. It's up to everyone whether they can believe a mobile site or you.
Facts are facts, i can't deny them, f.ex. X10 can't play as many video formats etc. Although third party applications are available for that as well, but still X10 can't play every format out of the box. X10 has not secondary camera, FACT. X10 has not built in FM radio, FACT... But bluetooth headset in box has FM radio & it means you can use radio without draining battery from mobile. Internal memory 32GB in N900 is FACT. Does these three, four things make N900 a better device? Anyone can tell here 4, 5 things N900 lacks, so this will mean that X10 is better? Will you admit?
junooni.1980 said:
LOL! I really don't know what that mobili.no is,, But hey man Ive bulletted those points based on my first hand experience. And as Ive mentioned Im a heavy user, so once again I can tell you that all these lines uv'e posted above from this mobilo.no are just froma review or perhaps a preview. Ihave used the phone for months & turts me those facts arent accurate at all atleast in comparison to my experience.
And for those who talk about landscape.. N900 is a tablet not a phone, so no tablet comes with lanscape mode.
But hey I dont wanna be a preacher here for N900, as I said the only reason ive left N900 is cus of the lack of support and software. Imma wait for the new one to come out with meego but till then I'll tolerate and work with x10.
beside it's funny how uve just pointed 2 facts outta my 13-15 points difference. tahts clearly makes N900 a better device.
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To be honest I also dont know mobilo.no, but i would rather take their review as more objective, than the words from an obvious nokia fanboy as you ....
And have also heard that the battery on the N900 should suck extremely... And all reviews i have read about it, said it wasnt really good....
And last, why even start a discussion like this in a X10 forum ?
Why you guys keep saying x10 can't play Divx? Well i can't tell the differences but the only common media i can't play is .mkv h265 ones right now.
I can play Xvid and divx perfectly fine. You just got to choose the proper program for it.
Beside why is the poster trading a NEW phone for an OLD phone anyway? he must be an idiot, to trade something new for old. I rather trade x10 for Evo 4g or another HTC or even iphone over any nokia ****ty phones. (i had 2 nokia before and i throw them out after few month)
Also if you want to take a picture, go buy a camera already. Your US economy need you to purchase items stop saving your money under your bed. Quality wise, most digital camera out there beats all your cellphones.
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SUPER SPECS For All Models Of Samsungs "Galaxy S" Android OS SmartPhone Line:
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Verizon "FASCINATE" [Part Of Samsungs "Galaxy S" Android OS Line]
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AT&T "CAPTIVATE" SGH-I897 [Part Of Samsungs "Galaxy S" Android OS Line]
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Model Facts:
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the Bluetooth v3.0 with A2DP (For Headphone Listening) (2.0 & 2.1 with A2DP
or/and EDR where the best until NOW!!
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sizes 3.7in (Nexus One) & 4.3in (Sprit EVO 4G & T-Mobile HD2)
-The Samsung Patiented Super Amoled Screen is complete different from a "Regular
Amoled Screen (Nexus One)" becuz its drains ALOT! less battery life for "Brightness
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-The American Versions have No FM Radio (FMRadio.apk), & No Front Facing Camera.
-U Can Buy 2 Versions of this phone Either an 8GB or 16GB Internal Memory Storage
Space for Apps. (T-Mobile & AT&T Only Come in 16GB)
-The UK "I9000" versions come with Front Facing Camera & Video Calling software.
-The UK "I9000" versions come with FM Radio & FM Radio Software (FMRadio.apk)
that enables the FM Radio Hardware to run. (NOTE: American Versions have the
hardware but no software. The UK "FMRadio.apk" version will not work on American
Versions of the Smartphone. Hopefully a New FMRadio.apk Will be hacked & altered
for American Hardware.
-The I9000's Video Camera Comes with "LED Video Light" which dobles as the Regular
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-All 3 Versions have Samsungs Patiented "S5PC110 1GHz ARM CORTEX-A8 Hummingbird Processor.
Its Super FAST!! with built in Graphics Chip For gaming (& Movies)
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-The Verizon Fasinate has! LED Flash! & No American Versions Has a front Facing
camera. (AT&T Captivate Has no flash)
Special Specs To Know About:
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2G Network: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network: HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
Weight: 119 g (Much Lighter than Droid X, Iphone 4G, HD2 & Evo 4G
Screen Type: Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Screen Size: 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 Inches (Height)
Video: DivX/XviD HD Codec Pack (Allowing Any Video To Play in Any Android player;
Androids Meridian Player Will play any .AVi, divx,
movie only on Galaxy S Smart phones)
Music: MP3, WAV, WMA, & FLAC!! (See Media Support at The bootom Of The Page)
Headphone: 3.5 mm Audio Jack (Doubles For TV Out)
TV Out Port: 3.5 mm Audio/Video Jack For TV Out (Many Cables Work!!)
(Use 3.5mm to RCA Cable From Radio Shack)
HDMI Out Port: YES!, Thats Right!, YES! (Any Micro USB to HDMI Adapter Cable)
Internal Storage: 8 GB or 16GB Storage/ 512 MB RAM/ 2GB ROM For Apps Storage!
SDCard Slot: MicroSD, [up to 32GB]
Bluetooth: v3.0 with A2DP (No More 2.1 BT Profile)
Infrared port: No (Old Technology)
Camera:
-Primary (Back): 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
-Features: Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
-Video: HD Recording up 720p/ 30fps (In The Options U can change this To Record
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-Secondary (Front): Front-Facing VGA Camera (UK Version Only)
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OS: Android OS v2.1 Eclair (Soon Upgraded to Android OS v2.2 Froyo
Radio: Stereo FM Radio with RDS (RDS shows stations Names & song Titles)
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ALL MEDIA SUPPORT:
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The Galaxy S comes with support for many audio file formats,
including 2 lossless audio codecs, video codecs and video formats:
Galaxy S Line Plays:
Video codecs:
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mpeg4
H.264
H.263
Sorenson codec
DivX HD/ XviD
VC-1
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3GP (MPEG-4)
WMV (Advanced Systems Format)
AVI (divx)
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some infor I found online, interesting.
there is no doubt they far outrank every single phone out there in so many ways!
#1 - Screen; 100,000:1 compared to iPhone4's 800:1 Real World contrast ratio. But it's the response time that kicks every phone on the planet to the curb being 0.01ms. Which is as close to instantaneous as you can get. Especially compared to iPhone4's snail response time of 25ms. Why is this so important? Because these phones are NOT eReaders!
If you want a over rated ereader, then iP4 is your best choice. If what you want is a Multimedia Phone then Samsung's Super AMOLED is your BEST CHOICE. Play games or watch action movies? Super AMOLEAD!
http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/original/140B801A4C183C762FE807
(note: the original page this graph is from destroys the myth of higher pixel density. It explains that in the fall when 2.2 Android is available for Galaxy Series phones SVG vectored fonts (resolution free 300dpi) and higher dpi icons will shed a new light on the subject. Also it relates to the sweet spot view distance for the screen size)
#2 - Samsung makes 50% of the cost of all parts in iPhone4. In so doing, they've strived to put better parts into their own phones while Apple went CHEAP. Hummingbird blows Apple A4 away merely by having the full Arm Neon Multimedia Engine and OS support programed into Android. But not fully deployed until Android 2.2. On top of that you have the first time the SGX540 GPU has been put in a device. It can display 3x what the iP4 or any other phone out can at 90million Triangles/p/sec and with that Super AMOLED screen, when 2.2 comes out it'll get all phones to the curb.
#3 - Samsung has the newest and best radios out. Compared to any other device. First phone to have WiFi Direct b/g/n, Bluetooth 3.0 (10x speed of iP4's BT2.1), DLNA Media Server and w/ Android 2.2 full OS support for all these. 3G/4G Baseband Radio w/ Full VOIP (Voice/Video) supported radio. Meaning when Google/GIPS HD Video Conferencing is released for Galaxy, they will have Facetime's Engine running on hardware capable of using it over 3G/4G (btw Facetime is running GIPS Engine). Galaxy has TV-Video Out via it's headphone jack. Cameras both have Smile and Face detection. 5mp camera has outstanding low light capability and again when 2.2 comes out dramatic changes will come into use with it's ambient light sensing abilities and auto backside lighting effects. Adobe is expanding the features of it's Photoshop Mobile for Android. Of course there is more on the way in features that are hidden at this time, but you've made a great choice if you own one of these Galaxy Series Phones!!!
Another one
[email protected] It's in the combo radio, but I'm not sure that it's active until Android 2.2 update for support. If not then it'll get the update in the fall. That's what I gathered from a Korean site. That support was coming and that some surprises having to do with high res fonts and icon in an update soon. That would show off the Super AMOLED's Resolution (a swipe at Retina, because it's the 300dpi fonts Apple's using that are making it look sharper for reading along w/ extremely high dpi icons. Compared to Android's low res icons and low dpi non SVG converted to SVG fonts (for vectored Resolution Free fonts).
I've seen other mentions of the radio referred to as FM RDS so that would mean something about it being capable of receiving road construction bulletins, etc.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-12261_7-10002899-20.html?s=0&o=10002899
This is Broadcom page on the part number from the tear down:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM20751
Samsung Galaxy Series phones are the first to receive this WiFi Direct capable SoC and some interesting things are coming from other features in it too.
FM Radio w/RDS and FM Recording as well in Wave. So Bada supports more features than Android does as yet. Same chis in both though!
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/08/comparison-of-iphone-4-vs-samsung-wave-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
Note: All Action Graphics, Games, etc in the future are going to look far better on Super AMOLED Galaxy than iPhone or any other LCD or AMOLED Screen. Because of the super fast response time and contrast ratio and the fact NO IPS LCD has a chance in hell of competing with it. iPhone's abysmal 25ms is more like the first desktop LCD screens in speed. Fast action Games & Video will ghost and display irregularly. Especially since the Galaxy has been designed for the future w/ that 3x the display capability of iPhones SGX535 GPU at 90million Triangles/per/sec rendering speeds. Which is the reason it can put up HD 720p graphics over WiFi Direct DLNA or BlueTooth 3.0 DLNA to your HDTV. This is the reason they did not bother putting in an HDMI out port. Also because HDMI restricts graphics w/ HDCP. DLNA doesn't restrict anything being a wireless broadcast in the first place and being both Wifi 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz (unlike iPhone4, etc's 2.4ghz ONLY)!
My plan is to buy either the DirectTV Google Box or the Logitech GoogleTV Box. They are going to be WiFi Direct (I believe dual band as well). Along with Bluetooth 3.0 DLNA capable. This feature can auto Sync and because of it's extremely fast speed (faster than Wifi G or N) and low 6 to 30ft range it will not conflict with any other signals. Bluetooth 3.0 DLNA is the FUTURE!
Sorry, Long time lurker first time poster. There seems to be alot of misinformation in the previous two posts feel free to correct me as well...
Preech2003 said:
SUPER SPECS For All Models Of Samsungs "Galaxy S" Android OS SmartPhone Line:
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-U Can Buy 2 Versions of this phone Either an 8GB or 16GB Internal Memory Storage
The Fascinate for Verizon will only have 2GB and the Epic 4G for Sprint only has 1GB of internal memory.
-This phone has the HIGHEST SIZE of storage capacity of any phone on the American
Market today with 16GB!! Internal Memory For Movies, Videos, Pictures, Anything!
& Has 2GB For Just Android Market Apps Only..WOW!!! & SDCard Slot With 32GB MAX!!
combined all together to give U 50GB of storage Space (48GB Not Including App
storage.
I don't know about the others but the Vibrant does NOT have an extra 2GB of memory for apps. The internal memory reserved for apps is subtracted from the 16GB of internal storage. I believe it is something like 1.8Gb for apps/14.2GB storage. Therefore it does have a maximum of 48GB of storage.
-The phones claim to have 720p HD recording but actually have 1280p Super Mobile HD
Recording!!. This feature can be changed in the camcorder settings Menu
Care to walk me through how to get this? I can't find it.
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boodies said:
some infor I found online, interesting.
Which is the reason it can put up HD 720p graphics over WiFi Direct DLNA or BlueTooth 3.0 DLNA to your HDTV. This is the reason they did not bother putting in an HDMI out port. Also because HDMI restricts graphics w/ HDCP. DLNA doesn't restrict anything being a wireless broadcast in the first place and being both Wifi 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz (unlike iPhone4, etc's 2.4ghz ONLY)!
You realize that you don't have to have HDCP with HDMI right? DLNA and HDMI are not the same thing and DLNA does honor DRM. Don't believe me? Try and play Avatar via DLNA to anything aside from the phone, you can't. Why? Because of DRM. Additionally the phones do not do wifi in the 5Ghz band.
My plan is to buy either the DirectTV Google Box or the Logitech GoogleTV Box. They are going to be WiFi Direct (I believe dual band as well). Along with Bluetooth 3.0 DLNA capable. This feature can auto Sync and because of it's extremely fast speed (faster than Wifi G or N) and low 6 to 30ft range it will not conflict with any other signals. Bluetooth 3.0 DLNA is the FUTURE!
Might want to rethink your plan as Bluetooth 3.0 is not faster than either G or N. It has a maximum theoretical speed of up to 24Mbs.
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since when does the captivate have led flash?
I havn't seen this or heard this anywhere, and I see no flash on it when I check on google.
boodies said:
some infor I found online, interesting.
there is no doubt they far outrank every single phone out there in so many ways!
#1 - Screen; 100,000:1 compared to iPhone4's 800:1 Real World contrast ratio. But it's the response time that kicks every phone on the planet to the curb being 0.01ms. Which is as close to instantaneous as you can get. Especially compared to iPhone4's snail response time of 25ms. Why is this so important? Because these phones are NOT eReaders!
If you want a over rated ereader, then iP4 is your best choice. If what you want is a Multimedia Phone then Samsung's Super AMOLED is your BEST CHOICE. Play games or watch action movies? Super AMOLEAD!
http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/original/140B801A4C183C762FE807
(note: the original page this graph is from destroys the myth of higher pixel density. It explains that in the fall when 2.2 Android is available for Galaxy Series phones SVG vectored fonts (resolution free 300dpi) and higher dpi icons will shed a new light on the subject. Also it relates to the sweet spot view distance for the screen size)
#2 - Samsung makes 50% of the cost of all parts in iPhone4. In so doing, they've strived to put better parts into their own phones while Apple went CHEAP. Hummingbird blows Apple A4 away merely by having the full Arm Neon Multimedia Engine and OS support programed into Android. But not fully deployed until Android 2.2. On top of that you have the first time the SGX540 GPU has been put in a device. It can display 3x what the iP4 or any other phone out can at 90million Triangles/p/sec and with that Super AMOLED screen, when 2.2 comes out it'll get all phones to the curb.
#3 - Samsung has the newest and best radios out. Compared to any other device. First phone to have WiFi Direct b/g/n, Bluetooth 3.0 (10x speed of iP4's BT2.1), DLNA Media Server and w/ Android 2.2 full OS support for all these. 3G/4G Baseband Radio w/ Full VOIP (Voice/Video) supported radio. Meaning when Google/GIPS HD Video Conferencing is released for Galaxy, they will have Facetime's Engine running on hardware capable of using it over 3G/4G (btw Facetime is running GIPS Engine). Galaxy has TV-Video Out via it's headphone jack. Cameras both have Smile and Face detection. 5mp camera has outstanding low light capability and again when 2.2 comes out dramatic changes will come into use with it's ambient light sensing abilities and auto backside lighting effects. Adobe is expanding the features of it's Photoshop Mobile for Android. Of course there is more on the way in features that are hidden at this time, but you've made a great choice if you own one of these Galaxy Series Phones!!!
Another one
[email protected] It's in the combo radio, but I'm not sure that it's active until Android 2.2 update for support. If not then it'll get the update in the fall. That's what I gathered from a Korean site. That support was coming and that some surprises having to do with high res fonts and icon in an update soon. That would show off the Super AMOLED's Resolution (a swipe at Retina, because it's the 300dpi fonts Apple's using that are making it look sharper for reading along w/ extremely high dpi icons. Compared to Android's low res icons and low dpi non SVG converted to SVG fonts (for vectored Resolution Free fonts).
I've seen other mentions of the radio referred to as FM RDS so that would mean something about it being capable of receiving road construction bulletins, etc.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-12261_7-10002899-20.html?s=0&o=10002899
This is Broadcom page on the part number from the tear down:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM20751
Samsung Galaxy Series phones are the first to receive this WiFi Direct capable SoC and some interesting things are coming from other features in it too.
FM Radio w/RDS and FM Recording as well in Wave. So Bada supports more features than Android does as yet. Same chis in both though!
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/08/comparison-of-iphone-4-vs-samsung-wave-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
Note: All Action Graphics, Games, etc in the future are going to look far better on Super AMOLED Galaxy than iPhone or any other LCD or AMOLED Screen. Because of the super fast response time and contrast ratio and the fact NO IPS LCD has a chance in hell of competing with it. iPhone's abysmal 25ms is more like the first desktop LCD screens in speed. Fast action Games & Video will ghost and display irregularly. Especially since the Galaxy has been designed for the future w/ that 3x the display capability of iPhones SGX535 GPU at 90million Triangles/per/sec rendering speeds. Which is the reason it can put up HD 720p graphics over WiFi Direct DLNA or BlueTooth 3.0 DLNA to your HDTV. This is the reason they did not bother putting in an HDMI out port. Also because HDMI restricts graphics w/ HDCP. DLNA doesn't restrict anything being a wireless broadcast in the first place and being both Wifi 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz (unlike iPhone4, etc's 2.4ghz ONLY)!
My plan is to buy either the DirectTV Google Box or the Logitech GoogleTV Box. They are going to be WiFi Direct (I believe dual band as well). Along with Bluetooth 3.0 DLNA capable. This feature can auto Sync and because of it's extremely fast speed (faster than Wifi G or N) and low 6 to 30ft range it will not conflict with any other signals. Bluetooth 3.0 DLNA is the FUTURE!
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One of the best posts I've ever read so far...kudos bro....
Berserk87 said:
since when does the captivate have led flash?
I havn't seen this or heard this anywhere, and I see no flash on it when I check on google.
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I just checked and my captivate did not grow a flash so that part of the post is clearly wrong.
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Preech2003 said:
-The phones claim to have 720p HD recording but actually have 1280p Super Mobile HD
Recording!!. This feature can be changed in the camcorder settings Menu
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This needs to be corrected before people start bugging out on trying to find something that isn't there.
1280x720 resolution = 720p.
krichek said:
You realize that you don't have to have HDCP with HDMI right? DLNA and HDMI are not the same thing and DLNA does honor DRM. Don't believe me? Try and play Avatar via DLNA to anything aside from the phone, you can't. Why? Because of DRM.
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Really? I streamed Avatar from my phone to my Asus O!Play Air and it looked amazing on my 55" LCD.
KerryG said:
Really? I streamed Avatar from my phone to my Asus O!Play Air and it looked amazing on my 55" LCD.
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I think perhaps I wasn't clear. I was referring to the copy of Avatar that came on the Vibrant.
The screen is amazing and all, but it's still not easy to see when outside, even on max brightness...
blanked said:
The screen is amazing and all, but it's still not easy to see when outside, even on max brightness...
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You need glasses.
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christpuncher said:
You need glasses.
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Straight to the personal insults. Thanks.
Preech2003 said:
-This phone has the HIGHEST SIZE of storage capacity of any phone on the American
Market today with 16GB!
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I'm pretty sure the iPhones come with an option for 32gb
-The phones claim to have 720p HD recording but actually have 1280p Super Mobile HD
Recording!!. This feature can be changed in the camcorder settings Menu
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This is an outright lie. 720p is the highest recording option for the Galaxy S
-The Fasinate & Captivate Both Have LED Flash & No American Versions Has a front Facing
camera.
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The Captivate does not have LED flash. As for the Fascinate, who knows?
Internal Storage: 8 GB or 16GB Storage/ 512 MB RAM/ 2GB ROM For Apps Storage!
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2 of the 16gb is dedicated to apps. And if there was an extra 2GB ROM, how would it store apps if it's read only?
A lot of the stuff was opinion based and or just wrong.
And I may have missed something but at first you list 4 models and then keep mentioning how all 3 models have this and that... which 3? And where is the epic?
Less caps and exclamation points please. This is not a place for Billy Mays wanna be commercials. If you are making a post to show the specs, just show the specs, people looking here are mostly the nerdy type who will get more excited by the numbers than THE WORDING LIKE THIS!!!!
just a few corrections:
the fascinate (verizon galaxy) has an LED flash
the epic (sprint galaxy) has a front facing camera and flash
and to hurrpancakes, last time i checked 16gb + 32 gb = 48gb im not sure, but i think there is a chance 48 is a larger number the 32. Can someone please verify that?
engineer14 said:
Can someone please verify that?
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http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=48+>+32
engineer14 said:
just a few corrections:
the fascinate (verizon galaxy) has an LED flash
the epic (sprint galaxy) has a front facing camera and flash
and to hurrpancakes, last time i checked 16gb + 32 gb = 48gb im not sure, but i think there is a chance 48 is a larger number the 32. Can someone please verify that=
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In op's post, he says that it has the most storage of any phone in the market at 16gb. He doesn't mention the 32gb sd card until after he says the highest size thing.
-This phone has the HIGHEST SIZE of storage capacity of any phone on the American
Market today with 16GB!! Internal Memory For Movies, Videos, Pictures, Anything!
& Has 2GB For Just Android Market Apps Only..WOW!!! & SDCard Slot With 32GB MAX!!
combined all together to give U 50GB of storage Space (48GB Not Including App
storage.
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On a side note, the whole original post makes me want to vomit. I don't quite know why.
hurrpancakes said:
On a side note, the whole original post makes me want to vomit. I don't quite know why.
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Probably because it's riddled with typo's, grammar errors, and excessive punctuation?
Also, the storage is "16gb", but in reality you have 1.9gb apps storage, 13.18gb of internal storage, and you lose about 1gb to formatting and marketing (the whole binary vs decimal thing that occurs with computer hard drives affects this device too).
raduque said:
Probably because it's riddled with typo's, grammar errors, and excessive punctuation?
Also, the storage is "16gb", but in reality you have 1.9gb apps storage, 13.18gb of internal storage, and you lose about 1gb to formatting and marketing (the whole binary vs decimal thing that occurs with computer hard drives affects this device too).
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I am thinking of starting a petition to make 2^10 (2 to the power of 10) changed to 1000, but i will need you guys to back me up. whos in!!
christpuncher said:
You need glasses.
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Has, that's funny! I agree. give it few seconds to adjust its colors, and it is very well visible, even in direct sunlight.
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Xperia Play vs HTC Desire S (my review)
Ok so my girlfriend got a HTC Desire S yesterday so I thought it would be good to fully compare it and test it head to head against my Xperia Play!
Build Quality:
There is no denying the HTC Desire S is built very good, it feels great in your hand and fits in your pocket perfectly, the Play on the other hand feels bulky and the build quality isn't quite as good (although still very good)
Winner: HTC Desire S
Screen:
The Xperia Play has a 4" LCD screen, the HTC Desire S has a 3.7" (LCD?) screen, I hate to say it but the HTC Desire S screen blows the Plays out of the water on a grand scale
The brightness is amazing, the colors are so vibrant, everything looks so bright and crisp, holding the Play next to it makes the Plays screen look REALLY washed out, the colors look very faded and the brightness isn't anywhere near the same scale (although hopefully this is just the auto brightness that can't be turned off on the Play, this doesn't explain the poor/faded color though)
Winner: HTC Desire S
CPU, GPU & Ram:
Both devices have a 1ghz Snagdragon Processor and the Adreno 205 GPU, the Play has 512mb Ram while the Desire S has 768mb Ram giving it 256mb more than the Play.
Winner: HTC Desire S
Internal & External Storage:
The HTC Desire S has 1.1gb of internal storage and comes with an 8gb sd card, the Play has a tiny 400mb of internal storage (why SE why!?) and comes with a 8gb or 16gb sd card (mine had the 16gb card with it)
The internal storage on the HTC Desire S is excellent, you shouldn't run into any issues too quickly with filling it up, the Play on the other hand is REALLY lacking here with such a small amount of storage, 400mb just won't cut it, I have already faced a lot of issues with filling this up on my Play, in the end I rooted and altered the settings so the apps always save to sd card now, even with that I still only have around 150mb free.
Winner: HTC Desire S
Performance:
Although the HTC Desire S has the extra 256mb of ram it just doesn't perform as well as the Xperia Play, general use, apps, games, multi tasking, everything runs smoother and faster on the Xperia Play, the desire has a habit of stuttering with very small freezes.
Not sure why the desire with the same specs but more ram isn't performing as well as the Play, maybe the Play uses a faster type of ram or maybe HTC sense is slowing the desire down?
Winner: Xperia Play
Gaming:
The same can be said with gaming, the Xperia Play runs games much better than the HTC Desire, Cordy (the stunning platformer) really shows off the performance on both devices, the Play runs the game in the "HD Graphic Setting" from the menu as default and runs at a constant 30FPS with no slow downs at all,
The HTC Desire S on the other hand shows a warning when you first play the game saying the game will run best on "Simple Graphic Option" and sets this as default, I switched it to the hd setting anyway and yup, major slowdowns and stuttering running at 18-27FPS with a lot of drops.
Other games give the same result, NFS Shift, Asphalt 5, 6, Fast 5 and Angry Birds Rio, all run better on the Play although the colors looks much better on the Desire S.
Add to this the Xperia Play has a gaming pad and it really does own in the gaming department.
Winner: Xperia Play
Camera:
Both devices feature a 5 mega pixel camera, the Play uses the stock camera app and is really at a disadvantage because of it.
The HTC Desire has many features that are absent from the Play such as zoom, touch to focus, face detection and 720P Video Recording to name a few!
Both Devices take superb quality pictures, hard to tell any difference, the Desire has a better video recorder and because it has 720P means it is better quality.
Winner: HTC Desire S
Battery:
The play features a 1500mah while the Desire S has a 1450mah battery, both devices drain the battery at a fast rate while playing games or running any highly demanding apps.
Winner: Tie
SE Home vs HTC Sense:
Let's get this out the way right now, HTC Sense walks all over the buggy mess they call SE Home.
HTC Sense is full to the brim with features and customization, it runs fast and smooth, has loads of widgets, skins and even sound sets, SE Home on the other hand is horrible and has a lot of bugs, it can't even get the order of the apps right after a reboot, it refuses to acknowledge apps on the sd card for no reason but then works fine again until it decides to play up again.
SE Home lets the Play down big time, you do need to use another launcher on the Play to get the best from it.
Winner: HTC Desire S (HTC Sense)
OS & Software:
The Xperia Play runs on Android 2.3.2 while the HTC Desire S runs on Android 2.3.3, both run very well and have near on the same stock features.
The Xperia Play has a lot more content in regards to games, 7 free games, the Playstation app, the Xperia Play launcher, lots of links to more games etc, the HTC desire on the other hand has no games installed as standard and has one link which takes you to the Gameloft store to buy games.
The HTC does have a few cool little extras though, the HTC Hub, Pocket mirror and most of the standard apps (calender, alarm etc) have had a Sense makeover so look a lot better than stock.
The Play is aimed at gamers, the Desire is aimed at general everyday use, totally depends on what you want from your device!
Winner: Tie
Winner:
I hate to say it but the HTC Desire S is the better device out of the two, HTC certainly know how to make the software side of their devices shine and this is where the Xperia Play is suffering, the Play could be so much better if SE updated it with more features and if they fixed the bugs.
On the gaming side of things the Play is easily the winner outperforming the Desire on every level apart from the contrast/color, add to this the Plays gaming pad and you really do have a superb gaming device!
For me I am more than happy with my Xperia Play, I will be keeping it for now and will enjoy it for current and retro gaming, I just really hope SE improve it with some updates, the camera app needs urgent attention!
you made afew valid points there about the play
i agree the low brightness makes the screen look dull
and the stock launcher well.... thats was the 1st thing i changed when i got mine
there is a fix the the brightness now on xda
and as soon as custom roms come out that when things will really get cooking
overclocking/custom launchers maybe zoom and hd video recording
and i think that the play has dual channel memory so maybe thats why its quicker?
I have a DHD, the desire s's big brother, and there is no way the 8mp camera on the DHD is better than the 5mp camera on my play, so unless HTC has done some magic, i dont see how the desire s's 5mp camera can even compare.
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AndroHero said:
I have a DHD, the desire s's big brother, and there is no way the 8mp camera on the DHD is better than the 5mp camera on my play, so unless HTC has done some magic, i dont see how the desire s's 5mp camera can even compare.
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All I did was take pictures of the same things in my garden in daylight using both cameras, auto and macro, I then copied to the PC and looked closely at both, the file size of the Plays images are almost half of that of the HTC's images, the quality of the both are pretty much the same though,
Maybe someone more into the camera department will be able to tell the differences better but for me (and my girlfriend) there was no difference!
P.S, the Desire HD uses a different camera lens than that in the Desire S, just checked, this could explain it.
your reference to screen may be valid in a dark room or at night
But the Play is the best screen in direct sunlight, ive owned many many many smart phones and the play is at the top of the list for day light visibility.
I think the Play is terrible in direct sunlight. The colours & glare are awful.
My old Hero was better.
DeadlyDazza said:
I think the Play is terrible in direct sunlight. The colours & glare are awful.
My old Hero was better.
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The screen on the hero was awsome, and the resolution looked great for only being HVGA
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The only thing I would want to compare is the gaming as thats the main reason I own a play (apart from also being a phone lol). And as you said the gaming kicks ass on the play. I dont really care about the camera I own a digi camera for that lol.
The only things I dont like about the play are the internal storage and build quality which I do find a bit poor and for that reason I now have insurance for the first time. But as its a kind of first generation in this type of dedicated gaming phone I think its a quality attempt by SE.
Overall its the best phone ever imo, the first phone I truly prefer to an iphone in tems of entertainment value and its got me really excited about future SE play phones
Just wanted to add my 2 pennies
DeadlyDazza said:
I think the Play is terrible in direct sunlight. The colours & glare are awful.
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I agree, the Play is near on impossible to see in direct sunlight, outdoors on a normal day it is JUST about readable to me, about the same as my old iphone 4 outdoors.
After testing the Desire S I was VERY tempted to send the Play back and get a Desire S as its a great little phone, but the reason I got the play was mainly for gaming and because of the gamepad.
I just wish the screen wasn't so faded and colors so poor compared to most other android phones out there.
lol that wasn't biased at all ha
i'm not sure the desire s was the best device to review with it
carmeng4evr said:
lol that wasn't biased at all ha
i'm not sure the desire s was the best device to review with it
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The only other ones I could have compared was the galaxy s, iphone 4 or desire S
I still reckon the screen looks great outside in the sun and is very visible vs most the phones out there...
this review agrees with me
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/11/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-review/
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The screen is really really good, in direct sunlight it’s as readable you wouldn’t believe. I can read a text message on the phone in direct sunlight while wearing sunglasses. Thats a first for me, I didn’t even get that sort of usability out of the Galaxy S with Super AMOLED
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I saw this video a few days after N4 was launched and thought this might be the final interface. However, it wasn't.
Just check the video guys, this interface looks much smoother and above all everythng is diffferent in it. Starting from capturing the photos, stitching them and even the viewing styles afterwards. How come? I don't get it.
Can we get this interface in future upgrade or something? Or looks like it was a prototype of PhotoSphere and they changed the interface in the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZzeAqImsM
Video's Description:
Demonstration of the Scalado panorama soon to be implemented in a smartphone near you.
Update Oct 29th 2012: Seems like the new LG Nexus 4 smartphone announced today will be the first to have this camera feature installed
filthykid said:
I saw this video a few days after N4 was launched and thought this might be the final interface. However, it wasn't.
Just check the video guys, this interface looks much smoother and above all everythng is diffferent in it. Starting from capturing the photos, stitching them and even the viewing styles afterwards. How come? I don't get it.
Can we get this interface in future upgrade or something? Or looks like it was a prototype of PhotoSphere and they changed the interface in the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZzeAqImsM
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Demonstration of the Scalado panorama soon to be implemented in a smartphone near you.
Update Oct 29th 2012: Seems like the new LG Nexus 4 smartphone announced today will be the first to have this camera feature installed
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This was some software which was developed by Scalado and was sold to OEMs to use. Google skinned it to make it more user friendly (at least in their and my eyes). I don't know about whether or not there's a way to get it as a standalone app in the form that they show in the video, but I personally prefer the newer way with the dots telling you where to focus and the slightly nicer background.
So, PhotoSphere isn't Google's brain child?
The way this one stitches photos is better IMO.
filthykid said:
So, PhotoSphere isn't Google's brain child?
The way this one stitches photos is better IMO.
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Yes but the Google's interface seems to be more user friendly. In this one, it doesn't indicate a lot of stuff
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
!! DISCLAIMER !! : THIS PHONE HAS SUFFERED ~30 DATA WIPES BECAUSE OF CUSTOM ROMS.
My honest review of the Pixel 4a after 3 years of not careless usage. Let's recap and ranking each aspects of this device.
Summary:
• Display:
• Sound:
• Battery:
• Connectivity:
• Hardware:
• Software:
• Camera:
• Development:
• Security:
Overall score: 9/10
Detailed review:
Display: Packed with a 1440p, 60hz OLED screen, this screen is considered the best for people who like me. Even though it has a 60hz screen,but hey, at least I don't get motion sickness.
Sound: This is the BEST speakers I ever heard on a smartphone, beating the JBL GO and any typical car stereos. There is no bass in this phone unfortunately, but the sound quality is .
Battery: 3140mAh is already enough for any usual tasks like TikTok, Whatsapp, or Netflix. Using Adaptive Battery from Google, Pixel can dynamically manage your battery depends on your workload, heck, you can watch Netflix at 480p (poor) longer than you can expect when watching TikTok. Using Google's 30W charger, this phone can charge from 20% to 80% in 20 minutes. On the other hand, battery life has been degraded by 20% after 3 years of usage.
Connectivity: Google also manage your network traffic depends on your workload using Adaptive Connectivity, which means using LTE or Wi-Fi should be pretty okay on this device.
Hardware: Despite 3 years old, 6GB RAM with a Snapdragon 715 is enough for basic workload today. However, I should expect more from Google when giving features to any Snapdragon-based Pixel phones.
Software: Launched with Android 10, upgradable to Android 13 (up until August) is not enough for users who willing to get long-term usage from this phone. But at least you have unlimited photos backup with reduced photo quality..
Camera: THE BEST CAMERA I EVER HAD IN MY LIFE, and the reason why I love Pixel phones so much. Shooting crisp photos, in capable of recording at 4K 30 FPS, this phone is great for photos, but okay for video, because of the 30 FPS cap with 4K. Portrait is great, with many different presets like Color Pop (only make colors visible on the focus object), Black&White (yk what that is),... In video, there are 2 different modes: Standard ( Video Stabilization) and Cinematic Pan. Both of them are great at capturing stable videos. In Night Shift mode, capturing photos at night is no longer a bright light flashing at your face, while it uses AI to enhance the details in the dark. Oh, 1 underrated feature in this Pixel is Photo Sphere, Photo Sphere helps you capture photos in 360° view by taking many different photos and merging together, modes like bird eye view, horizontal, vertical can be found by swipe down from the viewfinder.
Development: I have trouble finding proper trees for this device. Maybe because of my skills or the developer itself?
Security: Titan M is good for encrypting personal data while off or on, and Pixel Imprint (fancy name for the fingerprint scanner)'s response time is okay.
Other: The thing I hate the most about this phone is frequent unresponsive touch on the device, sometimes it goes numb, or some slow to response to touch. The bad thing is, they never patch it. Maybe because of factory defects? Or I dropped 10 times and this happen?
All of this comes in a price of $339 in 2020, now worth $129. Now should you buy it in 2023? No. Simply because this device is already 3 years, and features aren't that really worth it now.
Question..? Feel free it ask here!
Wrote this while on a car trip.
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buy iphone insted this price range is expensive to play with custon rom and wait to develelop apps for it just the name says its new era phone with better design inside i hate google to let someone install it baken rom and manufactura says it can push beta bild ota no worry but put someone odex rom to fresh android gsi builds
phone get 10 to desing and funcions installed
george.washington said:
buy iphone insted this price range is expensive to play with custon rom and wait to develelop apps for it just the name says its new era phone with better design inside i hate google to let someone install it baken rom and manufactura says it can push beta bild ota no worry but put someone odex rom to fresh android gsi builds
phone get 10 to desing and funcions installed
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Did you have a stroke or something
there is only one con and that is the front camera is a joke. i have never seen a front camera so bad like this.
The lack of development for this phone makes me really sad. I feel like it's pretty much the perfect "everyday phone" for lots of people like me who value a great camera and decent battery life in a perfectly sized phone. I still prefer a physical fingerprint scanner over the UDFS in more recent devices, and custom ROMs open up support for stuff like face unlock and general customization that makes the device almost perfect for me