possible to install recovery but not the rooted rom? - myTouch 3G, Magic General

I have a mytouch 1.2, and currently i'm not ready to run another ROM besides stock (waiting for T-mobile push - i'm only waiting until the end of july), but i would like to go ahead and install the Amon_RA 1.7.0G recovery.
I've got my goldcard made, the sappimg.zip ready on it, but i just can't bring myself to flash a new ROM and wiping just yet.
harm or or? or is it pretty much pointless to do the recovery and nothing else?

I'm pretty sure the update from Tmo flashes their ROM, radio and recovery image, so when they push Eclair, froyo, whatever, you'll be 100% back to stock.
Anywho, the ROM should be leaked as an update.zip before it's pushed out to everyone, it can be flashed from either the stock recovery or a custom recovery image.
If I was you I'd just root it not, flash CM, and see what happens in about a months time...

Thats true, tho i didnt want to root get setup on cm then having to unroot, wipe get to the OTA update. Then realize i dont like it and go back to rooting and cm. I figure measure twice, cut once...

Why don't you want root? Cm is leaps and bounds better than any stock rom

Well, i will root. I was going to root last month, until i heard official rom was coming..

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What to do what to do???

I'm in Canada, and I have no idea if OTA 2.2 is out for me yet, and people are telling me cyanogen wont have his 2.2 ready for a while because of the source.
I'd like to go back to stock. I've flashed cyan, a differen't kernel and haven't done anything to my radio, and I did a recovery image. If I follow the stock guide in the DEV section it doesn't let me do any OTAs. I think it might be because I kept RA recovery, but I don't know how to get rid of that. I searched and found the stock recovery ZIP but it was corrupted.
Also, if I do go to stock to get 2.2, will it give me all 512mb ram?
Macmee said:
I'm in Canada, and I have no idea if OTA 2.2 is out for me yet, and people are telling me cyanogen wont have his 2.2 ready for a while because of the source.
I'd like to go back to stock. I've flashed cyan, a differen't kernel and haven't done anything to my radio, and I did a recovery image. If I follow the stock guide in the DEV section it doesn't let me do any OTAs. I think it might be because I kept RA recovery, but I don't know how to get rid of that. I searched and found the stock recovery ZIP but it was corrupted.
Also, if I do go to stock to get 2.2, will it give me all 512mb ram?
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I can say if you follow the stock guide in the DEV section (including flashing the recovery.zip, which is included), you will get an OTA. I did, which is the older update ERE27.

Really Weird Problem

I had to bring my virant to the store for warranty for, so ofcoarse i flashed it to 2.1 update 1 w. Odin. Everything went good. I came home and wanted to obviously re-root and flash a rom. Well i used 2 verisions of one click root (im on a macbook) i first go into recover because 1 click root wouldnt take e there, while in revocery i it root, then reinstall packages, it takes me to CWM. i click reboot system. and now i look on the phone and no root access but i have CWM? Would i just be able to just download the zip to my sd card, use CWM (even through im not rooted) and flash the rom that way? ALso i want to know why this is happening, ive rooted 20+ times no problem
yes i do that all the time. the custom roms come pre-rooted.

Evo 4.22 Stock Recovery

Could someone please point me in the direction of where I can get the Evo 4G 4.22 stock recovery image?
Stock recovery is no recovery,what exactly are you looking for?
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I am rooted and have CWM installed. I am looking to put back the stock 4.22 recovery so I may install the the 4.24 OTA update.
I like to keep my Rom stock and prefer to install updates via OTA.
If you take the 4.24 OTA you will no longer be "rooted" Look for one of the rooted ROMs and flash it
Yeah,what he said
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I am using the Unrevoked root method and no update (3.70,4.22) to date has unrooted my phone.
I have simply been restoring the current version of the stock recovery, which I have previously found on the internets, and then running the OTA update as normal. Once done I install CWM and the latest SU updates. Works great.
I would like to perfrom this method once agian to install the 4.24 update and all I need is the 4.22 stock recovery.
If you don't want to be rooted anymore, then just accept the OTA - it'll override your current recovery with the stock recovery, which is actually a lack of recovery.
But as others have said, you won't be able to root again unless you've ran unrevoked or unrevoked forever and remain s-off. In that case, you'll have to flash a recovery and then flash the rooted version. So if you want to stay rooted, you might as well go ahead and do that. You should be able to just wipe cache and dalvik and install, so the end result will be the same but you'll be rooted.
I hope that made sense...
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
kc8emd said:
Could someone please point me in the direction of where I can get the Evo 4G 4.22 stock recovery?
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You probably want this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133379
This is the actual update, but rooted, so you can keep your CWM recovery, get the latest update that was made OTA, but remain rooted. You don't want to just accept the OTA if prompted, your root will go away.
Once you've downloaded it (and the radio update as well), follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14933526&postcount=31
Thats the problem. I cannot install the OTA 4.24 update with CWM installed, nor can I install the update manually, via renaming and then update method, as it will error out during install.
OTA updates will only install if the proper stock verion of recovery in installed, hence I really need the 4.22 recovery.
Installing OTA updates when using Unrevoked does not change S-OFF, it only overwrites SU which can be easily reinstalled. I know as I rooted my evo way back when it was version 3.26 using unrevoked 3 and have installed every OTA update since using this method and still have S-OFF
Thanks, but I do not need to go that route. My method will update as normal and I wont have to wipe my phone.
dmolavi said:
You probably want this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133379
This is the actual update, but rooted, so you can keep your CWM recovery, get the latest update that was made OTA, but remain rooted. You don't want to just accept the OTA if prompted, your root will go away.
Once you've downloaded it (and the radio update as well), follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14933526&postcount=31
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kc8emd said:
Thanks, but I do not need to go that route. My method will update as normal and I wont have to wipe my phone.
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And you won't be rooted anymore. There are only about 3 thousand posts telling people this, and most AFTER they found out the hard way. There are stock Rooted ROMS based on the recovery, as in STOCK! but still rooted, and up to date.
BTW, there are also a lot of posts detailing how the OTA made their phones worse, but if you want to be a hard head, go ahead and bury yourself, but don't come back crying when you figure out.
how come every other incompetent noob can manage to get their phone back to stock and permanently locked/unrooted, yet I cannot manage this feat intentionally?
if I intentionally flash the 4.22 zip from shipped-roms will this eliminate my root and recovery?
well install the 4.22 update from recovery didn't work... it aborted with some error.
ARGHHH!!! SOMEONE HELP ME LOCK MY PHONE PLEASE!!!
I appreciate the heads up, but if done correctly, it does work and has worked great for me the past few OTA updates.
I am aware of all the potential problems and am not the only one successfully installing OTA updates on a rooted evo and staying rooted.
HipKat said:
And you won't be rooted anymore. There are only about 3 thousand posts telling people this, and most AFTER they found out the hard way. There are stock Rooted ROMS based on the recovery, as in STOCK! but still rooted, and up to date.
BTW, there are also a lot of posts detailing how the OTA made their phones worse, but if you want to be a hard head, go ahead and bury yourself, but don't come back crying when you figure out.
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Bottom line is if you change back to S-ON, and apply the OTA you lose root forever (or until Unrevoked finds a new backdoor). If you leave S-OFF then you can downgrade, and reload a recovery. The stock ROM's you'll find here (ex. Sprint Lover's) are stock, and rooted. They pretty much the same thing you get over the air. Don't be a lid..
I downloaded a from shipped roms the last rom for my evo and downloaded the s-on tool. Ran the tool then connected my phone to the computer and ran the RUU i donloaded. Fully stock unrooted locked phone
I am a noob
First learn the correct terminology for what you are tying to achieve. There is no 4.22 recovery that you can just flash, there is a 4.22 ROM and a 4.22 RUU.
Then check out the WIKI and FAQs these both contain the info you are looking for .
Not trying to be mean. Just do some research before you mess up your phone and come here asking for stuff that doesn't exist.
4.22 ROM = just the ROM
4.22 RUU = .exe that runs on your PC to FLASH your PHONE with new radio, recovery, hboot, rom, etc
exabrial said:
well install the 4.22 update from recovery didn't work... it aborted with some error.
ARGHHH!!! SOMEONE HELP ME LOCK MY PHONE PLEASE!!!
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http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
cddmh said:
I downloaded a from shipped roms the last rom for my evo and downloaded the s-on tool. Ran the tool then connected my phone to the computer and ran the RUU i donloaded. Fully stock unrooted locked phone
I am a noob
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Well said
This is what you want to do to get to the latest OTA STOCK no root
* if you leave S-Off you can re-root *

[Answered] Unroot with Iconia Root

So I rooted a couple of days after I got the Tab, left the Stock Rooted Rom and then loaded the Honey Villian Kernel for O/C purposes. Since O/C is the only thing I do with Root, I am thinking of going back to Unrooted.
My question is, in Iconia Root, if I hit the Unroot with the Custom Kernel still installed what happens? or since I do not have a copy of the original Kernel, how can I reinstall it before Unrooting?
Build is Acer_A500_4.010.13_com_gen2
Current Kernel is 2.6.36.4 Honeyvillain- 1.0+
Thanks in advance
Alteros said:
So I rooted a couple of days after I got the Tab, left the Stock Rooted Rom and then loaded the Honey Villian Kernel for O/C purposes. Since O/C is the only thing I do with Root, I am thinking of going back to Unrooted.
My question is, in Iconia Root, if I hit the Unroot with the Custom Kernel still installed what happens? or since I do not have a copy of the original Kernel, how can I reinstall it before Unrooting?
Build is Acer_A500_4.010.13_com_gen2
Current Kernel is 2.6.36.4 Honeyvillain- 1.0+
Thanks in advance
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Did you not backup using CWM before flashing your custom kernel?
If you made that mistake, all you need to do is get the stock kernel from the build you're currently on, create a CWM flashable file and flash your stock kernel back.
I did make a backup, then screwed up and wiped the External Card it was stored on. I know, such a newbish mistake. Since then, I have other Backups, just not one with the Original Kernel.
thanks a bunch.. will see if I can search out the kernel I need.
Just grab one of the stock 3.2.1 roms in the development section and install it through cwm. That will replace the kernel, then run acer recovery installer from the market to return to stock recovery. After that you can try running iconiaroot to remove superuser or you can just uninstall it from settings/applications. Now you should be good to go.
Here is a link to a non rooted latest version. It installs through cwm. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429199
The problem is, cwm will still be on your tablet so you will have to flash the stock recovery. I don't know where you can get a flashable version of the stock recovery without using Acer recovery installer which of course requires you to be rooted to use. Although the advantage to keeping cwm will be you can still flash a custom rom in the future the disadvantage would be you won't be able to take OTAs because they will fail when the don't find the stock recovery.
So even if I successfully Unroot, I will not be able to take OTA's?
I have the kernel and was just going to flash it back, and Unroot. If I cant take the OTA's then it's not worth the effort.
Thanks for the information.. My tablet is fine the way it is, just figured if I wasn't really using root, I would go back to stock. Not really interested in flashing a Rom as I don't want to reload all the apps and set it back up.
Thanks again, as usual you guys are quick and helpful.
Alteros said:
........ Not really interested in flashing a Rom as I don't want to reload all the apps and set it back up.
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@Alteros - What I am about to say is NOT recommended by 90% of all posters so I expect there to be replies urging you not to do this - HOWEVER - if you install a custom Rom then just wipe the following (1)Cache (2)Dalvic Cache (3)Battery Stats DON'T wipe DATA. When you format just format the following (1)System (2)Cache (3)Flexrom DON'T format DATA.
By doing this you should get back all your Apps. There is a possibility, as other posters will tell you, that you will screw up the new Rom and then have to jump through hoops to get back to Stock. But if you want to take the chance and it works then you will have your new Rom and retain your Apps.
kjy2010 said:
Did you not backup using CWM before flashing your custom kernel?
If you made that mistake, all you need to do is get the stock kernel from the build you're currently on, create a CWM flashable file and flash your stock kernel back.
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couldnt he just flash a rooted stock rom( a couple pages back in the dev section) then proceed with the unroot
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metpolds said:
@Alteros - What I am about to say is NOT recommended by 90% of all posters so I expect there to be replies urging you not to do this - HOWEVER - if you install a custom Rom then just wipe the following (1)Cache (2)Dalvic Cache (3)Battery Stats DON'T wipe DATA. When you format just format the following (1)System (2)Cache (3)Flexrom DON'T format DATA.
By doing this you should get back all your Apps. There is a possibility, as other posters will tell you, that you will screw up the new Rom and then have to jump through hoops to get back to Stock. But if you want to take the chance and it works then you will have your new Rom and retain your Apps.
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yeah that might work, but he may just to get titianium backup and backup all his apps, if he is going to revert to stock, by flashing a stock rom over a custom rom things might act funny and since he is not rooted only thing he can do is wipe the device and start new
his less headache way of doing things is to leave root and recovery, and use a stock rom. Theres alot of tegra devices out there and who knows how long this community will be kicking out updates long after acer closes support for A500
Thanks to everyone that helped. I ended up loading Thor's 14.2 over the weekend, was not nearly as painful as I thought it would be. So I may try more in the future.
You guys are always quick to respond and helpful.
What I think I learned is that, once you root, you can never go completely stock again. Since there is not a way to get rid of CWM, at least not easily.

help with update from 4.2 to 4.2.1 stock rooted

Hello. I searched the forums and came up empty.
I have a stock 4.2 ROM I rooted. When the system says its updating and rebooting. It kicks me into recovery screen and does not up date.
Do I have to unroot and re lock the boot loader?
I know I'm probably just missing something stupid.
Thanks for any help.
If you were on a custom rom before then your recovery is probably messed up and not the stock recovery. Otherwise I do not know what it is that can be doing it because every time I would flash back to stock 4.2 I would get prompted to update to 4.2.1 and as well to note I have an unlocked bootloader and from what I have read before being rooted shouldnt make a difference.
Perhaps you could grab the toolkit and flash the stock recovery that is in it to your N7 and see if that helps you out.
jonnyg1097 said:
If you were on a custom rom before then your recovery is probably messed up and not the stock recovery. Otherwise I do not know what it is that can be doing it because every time I would flash back to stock 4.2 I would get prompted to update to 4.2.1 and as well to note I have an unlocked bootloader and from what I have read before being rooted shouldnt make a difference.
Perhaps you could grab the toolkit and flash the stock recovery that is in it to your N7 and see if that helps you out.
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Crap. I was hoping I didn't have to reflash. I dont have a custom ROM never have. I just unlocked this and rooted.
I'm going to try the toolkit when I get home revert from stock to stock, see if the update takes then.
Thanks for you help.
Edit. Looks like I have twrp recovery. This is my issue I assume. Is there a zip I can just flash to update
I have removed twrp back to stock recovery. Now when system reboots to install update, it stats the update then gives me a error. No error code just error. I really dont want to wipe my device as I have it setup for my liking.
I'm using wug's toolkit
I think (...and may be wrong...), but if you modified anything in /system (deleted any of the stock apps and/or updated them) it won't update either.
RMarkwald said:
I think (...and may be wrong...), but if you modified anything in /system (deleted any of the stock apps and/or updated them) it won't update either.
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I owe u a beer. I did add browser.apk to my system dir. I removed it and now I'm fully updated.
Thank you so much.
root keeper and I'm back in business.

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