nandroid problem... please help - Click General

Hey there
i cant restore from a nandroid backup.. it says "run "nandroid-mobile.sh" via adb"
when i run it from # shell i get that it cant mount /sdcard (it isnt goldcard)
anyne that can help?

Holyachmed said:
Hey there
i cant restore from a nandroid backup.. it says "run "nandroid-mobile.sh" via adb"
when i run it from # shell i get that it cant mount /sdcard (it isnt goldcard)
anyne that can help?
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are you connected via USB ???
if yes , unmount the card or disconect from usb ......

Do that work ?

here is original android 1.6 if you cant do backup
HTML:
http://rs584.rapidshare.com/files/292517090/RUU_Click_HTC_WWE_1.67.405.6_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver.exe

To make a restore you have to have more than 50% of battery.

if i disconnect it from usb it doesnt work either going to check the battery now ... hope it works

i got nearly full battery... and even tried with and without goldcard and different sdcards and i tried put the nandroid-mobile.sh in /system/bin and flash it when the phone is on .. now trying to make a update.zip by the .img

...
Go to recovery, plug your phone with USB, and in a shell do:
cd /system/bin/
nandroid-mobile.sh --restore
I miss a part of the command, you have to complete it, and during the restore it will tell you the error.

Code:
/ # nandroid-mobile.sh --restore
nandroid-mobile.sh --restore
nandroid-mobile v2.2.1
Using G1 keyboard, enter a directory name substring and then <CR>
to find matches or just <CR> to accept default:
Using string to search for matching backup directories
error: unable to mount /sdcard, aborting
this is the error.. but i restored from an app called backup root now so it is working again

Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
gl though

Related

help - Overclock Patch and update.zip

i have my phone updated to 2.1 and rooted. Want to overclock it now but not sure what im supposed to do with the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip. I have the original PB00IMG.zip i updated and rooted my phone with, am i supposed to use it somehow?? New to this would appreciate any help.
Just use this, Flash it and it will make ur life easyier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685581
so phone will be stock again right? have to re dload apps and sync contacts and **** again right?
hmm... or u can try to flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip to the one you have
be sure to nand backup first
when i put the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip on the root of the sd card and power up holding the volume down button it doesn't find the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip and doesn't install it...? in other word how do i flash it, doesn't seem to be working like when i originally flashed and rooted.
did you flash recovery?
duckingzebra said:
when i put the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip on the root of the sd card and power up holding the volume down button it doesn't find the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip and doesn't install it...? in other word how do i flash it, doesn't seem to be working like when i originally flashed and rooted.
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Hey man,
When you rooted did you flash the Amon-Ra recovery image? If so put the update zip on the root of your sd. Power down your handset. hold the volume UP and the power on will bring you to the recovery menu. Here you have options for back up,flash from zip etc...once there you can select whatever rom/update you want to flash. Remember nandroid is your friend always back up. Also as far as apps etc...check out Titanium back up or one of the other free back up apps in market. I hope this helps you out.
volume up + end button = Recovery
ok, im following the steps to III: Flashing a Custom Recovery. and when i get to the step :adb push recovery.img /sdcard it says :cannot start recovery.img: No such file or directory...is the recovery.img also supposed to gon on the root of my sd card? or just the tools folder, cause its there?
yes its suppose to be on the root of the sdcard too
still says cannot stat 'recovery.img': no such fire or directory
am i supposed to replace /sdcard with /J (which is what my phone comes up as in my computer) -tried that still didn't work...
can u link me to the tut u are using?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
QUOTE=TopazAaron]
duckingzebra said:
did you see the tutorial i linked? still cant figure it out.
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ok
put the Recovery image in the tools/ in the sdk
after that plug ur phone into the comp
now being there in cmd navigate to the /tools/ folder
then type or copy and paste
adb shell mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
adb push recovery.img /sdcard
adb push flash_image /system/bin
adb shell chmod 755 /system/bin/flash_image
adb shell flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
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now if you still have issues, let me know, sorry i didnt reply, i got busy with other things.
thanks for ur pm tho[/QUOTE]
ok now instead of saying :cannot start recovery.img: No such file or directory
it says error: device not found, when i open my computer my sdcard in my phone shows up and i can open it...
That is really wierd, try joining the irc u may get more help there
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TopazAaron said:
That is really wierd, try joining the irc u may get more help there
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Sorry newser here, irc??
Is your phone actually rooted? To check, turn on your phone, then turn on USB debugging through Settings/Applications/Development/USB debugging. Plug your phone into the computer via the USB cable.
In the run box of your computer, type cmd, then enter.
When the command window shows up, changed you your SDK tools directory. On my system it would be:
cd c:\android-sdk-windows\tools
Then run the following command
adb shell
You're rooted if it comes back with
#
If it comes back with
$
try the typing
SU
if it does not change from $ to # then you might want to try rooting again, and be sure to install the Amon_RA recovery
typing exit multiple times will back you out of adb, and the cmd window.
Hope that helps.
Edit: Of course that works for 2.1 leak 3 users as well.
Easier way for you tho, if you boot to hboot with the send and end buttons, you should see hboot with S off if you're rooted. If it's S On you're not.

[Q] Getting an error while nandroid backup

Hello. I have a rooted HTC Magic. I downloaded the RA-Hero rom and installed it and everything went fine. Here's my problem though, when i try to do nand backup, i get an error saying "error run nandroid-mobile.sh via adb". My battery is charged fully and i have enough space to backup. Can anyone help me please?
Recovery.log file please?
Basically, there is a missing /sd folder in your /system folder.
Through adb, type:
adb remount
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and then:
adb shell mkdir /system/sd
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Then try again. Should work every time.

[TOOLS][ADB][Windows]Push files to device through ADB*now include deodex tools*

See my previous post before in post#2
This is a simple batch file using ADB..
With this you can use ADB to manage your file or APK , Backup, Push Your File to device, or pull file from device..
ADB Work on Stand by Mode (Home Screen) or in Recovery Mode, just set it up..
Extract ADBTOOLSv1.0.1.zip and you will find :
command.bat : Windows Batch Command
_BACKUP_OUT : folder where your backup process done and made
_FLASHING_OUT:
folder for flashing your :
kernel (place your boot.img here)
recovery (place your recovery.img here),
modem (place your modem.bin here)--only for gt p7300
_MODDING_FILE: Folder where your file were created by PULL process
Folder where file for PUSH process should be here
_BATCH_INSTALL : place your APK here for batch install
tools: ADB.exe and busybox binary
success_APK : A folder created for All apk from _BATCH_INSTALL move here after instalation.
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Notes:
ADB can access all file from device from CWM Recovery, especially CWMR 5.5.0.4
ALL you need to do is:
From Recovery menu, you need to mount /data and /system for ADB working..
THEN, From Command Prompt set ADB Mode to "recovery".(This Batch File set ADB mode to "Home Screen" by default)
So when you use ADB from Online device ( I mean a stand by device).. you dont need to change ADB Mode..
After you set up, you can use ADB as you like..
Code:
=============================================================================
:::: ADB TOOLS FOR GT P7300 and P7310 by suwandiapr
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [*] Before use read this:
| --make sure you have installed adb drivers for your device
| --enable "USB DEBUGGING"
| from (Menu\Settings\Applications\Development)
| --enable "UNKNOWN SOURCES"
| from (Menu\Settings\Applications)
| --increase screen timeout to 10 minutes
| --connect USB cable to PHONE and then connect to PC
| --MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A ROOTED DEVICE AND BUSYBOX
| --Place the right file in the right folder
| --Some feature like Flashing need more tester..so please be aware
| --If you use adb recovery feature, set ADB Mode to recovery
| mount /data and /system from your device recovery
| --If you use adb from homescreen, set ADB Mode to HomeScreen
| --All you Do is your own Risk, use with carefull
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
****Turn on the screen and allow superuser permission when asked!****
_____________________________________________________________________________
| Current MODDING FILE: NONE | ADB MODE :HomeScreen | sdcard path: /sdcard/|
=============================================================================
:::: ADB PULL ::::
=============================================================================
0 Pulling file from /data ( see result in _MODDING_FILE)
1 Pulling file from /system partition ( see result in _MODDING_FILE)
2 Pulling file from SDcard ( see result in _MODDING_FILE)
3 Backup recovery ( see result in _BACKUP_OUT)
4 Backup Kernel ( see result in _BACKUP_OUT)
5 Backup modem (for P7300 only-see result in _BACKUP_OUT)
6 Backup /system (tar format-see result in _BACKUP_OUT)
7 Backup /efs (tar and .img format-see result in _BACKUP_OUT)
8 Backup APK from /data/app (tar format-see result in _BACKUP_OUT)
=============================================================================
:::: ADB PUSH ::::
=============================================================================
9 Pushing file to /data ( from _MODDING_FILE to device)
10 Pushing file to /system ( from _MODDING_FILE to device)
11 Flashing recovery ( from _FLASHING_OUT to device)
12 Flashing Kernel ( from _FLASHING_OUT to device)
13 Flashing modem for GT P7300 ( from _FLASHING_OUT to device)
=============================================================================
:::: Setting ::::
=============================================================================
14 Set current working File ( for PUSH and PULL )
15 Install busybox on device (need root)
16 Set ADB mode (if you on recovery mode)
17 Install apk ( from _MODDING_FILE to device)
18 Install batch apk ( from _BATCH_INSTALL to device)
=============================================================================
:::: Reboot Menu ::::
=============================================================================
19 Reboot System
20 Boot Into Recovery
21 Reboot Bootloader
22 Quit
My previous post
inspiration from congox case
when you got a problem with bootlop and you forget make a nandroid backup
only have file from other ROM with flashable.zip and need to push the file from your computer to device
you have a recovery support with mount /system and mount /data (tested on CWM 5.5.0.4 and overcome CWM 5.1.2.6) and you can enter this menu while bootloop happen..
STEP 1 : MANUAL
Connect your device with computer
From device, Go to recovery - mounts and storage - mount /system and mount /data
From your computer go to adb terminal and type this
Code:
adb shell "ls /data/media/"
If you can see list of file from your device sdcard, so you make adb work for your device ..
Place your zip file on your path, says on C://backup.zip and you want to copy the file to /sdcard/download/ and type this code
Code:
adb push backup.zip /data/media/download/.
wait for copying progress done..
After you done with moving file to device sdcard, check content of your sdcard with this code
Code:
adb shell "ls /data/media/download/"
When you found your file from list, you can flash backup.zip from recovery
STEP 2 : WINDOWS BATCH FILE
I made a simple Batch File for windows (sorry i dont have MAC or LINUX distro) , this file will make a folder with name "emergency" in SDCARD and with your files inside that.
Extract the FLASHER.rar somewhere on your Local folder,example: on your " Desktop" Folder
in folder "FLASHER" you will find runme.bat and folder "files"
Rename your file ((flashable.zip files you want to send through ADB) to "backup.zip" and then Put your file into this path /FLASHER/files/myfiles/ (just replace the existing "backup.zip" with files from yours)
Connect your tab with Computer
Reboot into Recovery Menu from your device
From menu Mounts and Storage choose mount /system and /data
From your Computer go To Folder flasher and klik runme.bat
Follow the instruction on window untill copying process done and device reboot to recovery again (copying process will take a minutes depend on your file size)
Now you can flash a emergency ROM from recovery
Window instruction
Code:
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ADB EMERGENCY COPYING TOOL for TAB 8,9
created by SUWANDIAPR
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[*] This script will:
(1) COPY YOUR FILE FROM COMPUTER TO SDCARD/emergency/*
(2) CHECKING YOUR CONNECTED DEVICE DIRECTORY
[*] Before u begin:
(1) make sure u have installed adb drivers for ur device
(2) make sure u have installed CWM 5.5.0.4 ON YOUR DEVICE
(3) connect USB cable to PHONE and then connect to PC
(4) Rename your Flashable .zip file with "backup.zip"
and place inside "myfiles" folder on your Computer
(5) from Recovery Menu, Choose "Mounts and storage" then
-mount /system and -mount /data
(6) CONNECT YOUR TAB WITH PC WHILE ON RECOVERY MENU
---------------------------------------------------------------
CONFIRM ALL ABOVE
Sorry for my Bad english, if there is somebody want to correct every words i use , im very welcome and will change with the proper words and sentence..
Hope this help someone..
Nice guide, thanks!!
I needed some help with mounting the system using adb through a batch file.
I use this command
adb -d shell mount -o remount rw /system
But the mounting fails (I have a rooted phone )
pleas help me I know this is off topic
2 possible reasons for this command to fail:
- /default.prop (on the phone) contains the following line: "ro.secure=1". Then you need another boot.img (in fact just a modified ramdisk). look for "unpack-bootimg.pl" or "unpackbootimage" you may find a guide how to do this manually (not too easy). A rooted kernel would also do the trick.
you can check your default prob with this command "adb shell cat /default.prop".
- in some cases mount requires more parameters. try "adb shell mount" and look for the line containing "/system". In front of system is the "device-name". in my case the mount command would look like this:
mount -o remount,rw /block/dev/mmcblk0p24 /system
hope this helps and sorry for answering off-topic questions....
nail16 said:
I needed some help with mounting the system using adb through a batch file.
I use this command
adb -d shell mount -o remount rw /system
But the mounting fails (I have a rooted phone )
pleas help me I know this is off topic
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you can use busybox and call the binary from the shell
i assume that your device in normal mode ( in home screen)..
here some example..
Code:
su
adb push busybox /tmp/.
adb shell "chmod 755 /tmp/busybox"
adb shell "tmp/busybox mount -o remount,rw /system"
after you type "su" superuser will prompt a request, choose "allow".
glitschi667 said:
2 possible reasons for this command to fail:
- /default.prop (on the phone) contains the following line: "ro.secure=1". Then you need another boot.img (in fact just a modified ramdisk). look for "unpack-bootimg.pl" or "unpackbootimage" you may find a guide how to do this manually (not too easy). A rooted kernel would also do the trick.
you can check your default prob with this command "adb shell cat /default.prop".
- in some cases mount requires more parameters. try "adb shell mount" and look for the line containing "/system". In front of system is the "device-name". in my case the mount command would look like this:
mount -o remount,rw /block/dev/mmcblk0p24 /system
hope this helps and sorry for answering off-topic questions....
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yes you right glistchi, samsung lock adb root on new firmware on my SG- Note..
And make me flash an older firmware for rooting..
new update
Never mind, got it to work
i want to push same file in data system (/data/data) but my tab is not root. can i??
if from cwm recovery, yes you can.. if from stand by mode (home screen) the answer is no... you need root to make it happen..
i got this error
please help

Can't move TWRP backup files to PC

So, before I do a firmware update (In this case 4.2.2 to 4.3 OTA) I do a Titanium backup and a TWRP backup and copy both sets of backup files to my PC; it obviously makes no sense to only have backups on the device you are backing up. I upgraded to TWRP 2.6.0.0, did a full backup, and as usual I went to copy my backup files over to my Windows 7 computer using Windows Explorer and I can only get a couple of the files to move over. No warning, no error, no nuttin. This has always worked before......Did something change, and if so, how do I fix it?
I see from another post that TWRP changed the permissions of the backup files in the latest version of the program, and in my case the location as well. The workaround is to a) change the permissions on all those backup files, which I could see the nightmare problems that could cause later on when doing a restore and/or the security issues or b) doing an adb pull.
SOLVED.
The adb pull did the trick. All files were transferred over to my PC.
I had several issues getting adb to work:
1) I had an old version of the SDK installed on my PC which was causing a devices not recognized problem or something similar.
2) I didn't notice the message about verifying the RSA on my phone, which once verified, fixed the phone "offline" problem.
3) The screen lock on my phone was coming on after its timeout and locking me out from seeing the phone.
reverted to twrp 2.5.0.0
Same problem here with Google Nexus i9250 / twrp 2.6.0.0 / win7 64bit. Tried to copy backup of (BOOT/SYSTEM/DATA) via MTP or ftp from Nexus to PC. Only the first two files (boot.emmc.win/-md5) were copied. After downgrading to twrp 2.5.0.0 everthing was fine.
I had the same problem. It is caused by strange suid permissions set by TWRP. Solved it using chmod 0664 /data/media/0/TWRP/... (as root)
I was not able to adb pull before changing the files' permissions.
More details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44120545&postcount=14
(Google found that HTC One thread first, so I didn't search any further)
Type this in Terminal Emulator:
su
busybox chown - R 1023.1023 /data/media/*
That should solve all permissions problems.
I had no trouble at all by doing the following:
Access the sdcard from /data/media/0
Copy data.ext4.win and system.ext4.win to a temporary location.
(The "Set UID" and "Set GID" permissions were automatically removed. If not, you can change them from here.)
Copy the files to PC using MTP.
The remaining backup files from the TWRP directory can be copied normally.
Done
Note: You can instead just change the permissions on these two files inside the TWRP directory, but I did the temporary location copy just to be safe.
Mercado_Negro said:
Type this in Terminal Emulator:
su
busybox chown - R 1013.1023 /data/media/*
That should solve all permissions problems.
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coming up with chown: unknown user -
is that a space between 1023 and /data?
daryllh said:
coming up with chown: unknown user -
is that a space between 1023 and /data?
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I'm sorry, I made a mistake there. The correct command is:
su
busybox chown -R 1023.1023 /data/media/*
I wrote 1013.1023 and it's 1023.1023
Mercado_Negro said:
I'm sorry, I made a mistake there. The correct command is:
su
busybox chown -R 1023.1023 /data/media/*
I wrote 1013.1023 and it's 1023.1023
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After I did this command, my pc can't detect the back up
handols said:
After I did this command, my pc can't detect the back up
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Did you plug/unplug your device after running this command? There shouldn't be any problems. Furthermore, now you should be able to copy your TWRP and TiBu backups successfully to your computer. It's a pretty straight forward process.
Im on twrp 2.5.0.0 with Android 4.3. I cant copy the BACKUP folder directly to my PC with the default windows explorer because the backup isnt stored in /sdcard/TWRP. How can I fix this? I used to be able to do this without adb push/pull...
Mercado_Negro said:
I'm sorry, I made a mistake there. The correct command is:
su
busybox chown -R 1023.1023 /data/media/*
I wrote 1013.1023 and it's 1023.1023
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Thanks for this. I'm able to backup TWRP folder to PC now :highfive:
Since my original post 3 months ago I updated all my programs to 4.3 friendly versions as each was released (superuser 1.0.2.1, Windows drivers, TWRP 2.6.3.0, etc.) and now I don't need to do adb pulls any more and I can just copy and paste files from my phone to my pc and all files are copied over without missing any of them. Now I see the updated programs are already starting to show up for Android 4.4; here we go again.
Now see 0 / legacy emulated
Mercado_Negro said:
I'm sorry, I made a mistake there. The correct command is:
su
busybox chown -R 1023.1023 /data/media/*
I wrote 1013.1023 and it's 1023.1023
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Hi just wondering, Is there a way to cancel this command (just add a +R maybe) I did it on my phone and I think it may be the cause that I have a Legacy emulated 0 path problem Ive searched around and cant seem to find a solution. Thanks
NightCrawler504 said:
Hi just wondering, Is there a way to cancel this command (just add a +R maybe) I did it on my phone and I think it may be the cause that I have a Legacy emulated 0 path problem Ive searched around and cant seem to find a solution. Thanks
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What's the problem? That's a valid path.
Legacy emulated 0
Mercado_Negro said:
What's the problem? That's a valid path.
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I have an external sd (sdcard1) = /storage/sdcard1 so gr8 but then I have emulated (??) Storage/emulated/legacy and Storage/emulated/0 and sdcard0 storage/sdcard0 they were complety different folders been reading around seems to be a problem with cm when I go from 4.2 and over my phone is a e970 att, cant delete the emulated folder... already erased all my data previously, any help will do,I'm almost sure it had nothing to do with the chown command but had to give a try.
NightCrawler504 said:
I have an external sd (sdcard1) = /storage/sdcard1 so gr8 but then I have emulated (??) Storage/emulated/legacy and Storage/emulated/0 and sdcard0 storage/sdcard0 they were complety different folders been reading around seems to be a problem with cm when I go from 4.2 and over my phone is a e970 att, cant delete the emulated folder... already erased all my data previously, any help will do,I'm almost sure it had nothing to do with the chown command but had to give a try.
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No, it doesn't have anything to do with this command since it's just a way to set different permissions.

[Q] how to save all my files without booting android???

Hi !
I have a problem, my phone (nexus with cyanogenmod10.2) switch off when he have finished to boot, as if there was very low power battery.
So i want to reset all but i need a solution to save all my datas, on "sdcard" and in "system" memory
i read that i can using the cmd : adb pull "device files directory" "PC files directory"
but i don't know how to use it... i'm french and its hard to translate all...
so if there is a French who can explain me its perfect !
if the explanations are clear in english its perfect too
To use any of these command you need to install adb on your computer. Here is a guide: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-set-up-android-adb-and-fastboot-on-windows-tutorial/
After that you open a command prompt window (windows key + r, type in "cmd", press enter). Then you put the phone into custom recovery and use the command "adb pull /sdcard/".
I've done these steps
But my problem is how to write, i need the "trame"(in french).
to be in recovery mode, i just have to boot in fastboot and select recovery mode and press power and next step is to sent my commands right?
the bg gg said:
I've done these steps
But my problem is how to write, i need the "trame"(in french).
to be in recovery mode, i just have to boot in fastboot and select recovery mode and press power and next step is to sent my commands right?
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Correct.
Chromium_ said:
Correct.
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Ok, but, i'm in the correct directory to use adb i write : adb pull /sdcard/ E:\Nexus4SDcard\ and nothing happens, as if i made a mistake... and i need to save all, sd card + system, so how can i do? what is the directory?
Someone can help me? 3 days without phone its hard :/
the bg gg said:
Ok, but, i'm in the correct directory to use adb i write : adb pull /sdcard/ E:\Nexus4SDcard\ and nothing happens, as if i made a mistake... and i need to save all, sd card + system, so how can i do? what is the directory?
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If you looked at that other guide and have added adb to the environment variables
In your command prompt, do the following
E:
cd Nexus4SDcard
adb pull /sdcard
It should now being transferring
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
finally i didn't write any directory for destination and it works fine but in this directory : C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools, but its not a problem, using command prompt : "adb pull /"
how can i save and restore all my sms messages?
If the database is still intact it is located at /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
You grab it the same way you tried to pull.
In recovery
adb shell mount /data
adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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i have an error :/
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell mount /data
mount: mounting /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata on /data failed:
Device or resource busy"
and when i'm in the recovery mode i can't unmount /data
Sounds a little extreme... chances are, there's a better method.
If you have CM10.2, then no doubt you have a custom recovery already. I'm going to assume that this is not an actual battery issue. Is it crashing and rebooting or flat out turning off? I can't remember if CWM shows battery percentage, but TWRP does. What does it show?
What are you trying to back up? Just your /sdcard? Or your /data as well?
What happened to make it seemingly turn off once it's booted? Did you flash a new nightly?
You could always backup /data in your custom recovery as well and then do the wipe that doesn't erase the "sdcard" and then pick apart your backup later...

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