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how is the battery life?
is the phone stable on AT&T?
i'm coming from an SE X10. the phone is eye candy. and other than the camera, it ain't all that.
looks like nexus one is getting ALL the goodies. so i'm thinking about picking one up.
Battery life is fair to good.
...Yes (why wouldn't it be?)
just wanted to know if there were some known issues with the phone on AT&T because i hate getting drop calls
arcticreaver said:
just wanted to know if there were some known issues with the phone on AT&T because i hate getting drop calls
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Dropped calls are a network issue, not a hardware issue
If I were you, (OP) I would save up my money for the HTC Passion.
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If I were you, (OP) I would save up my money for the HTC Passion.
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i see what you did there
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just wanted to know if there were some known issues with the phone on AT&T because i hate getting drop calls
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No issues I know of with the phone. OP, no one likes dropped calls. Mine works fine - in this area. Your mileage may vary.
I can go a day, but not two with a single charge most of the time, unless I am using turn by turn nav, and then I am charging while driving. Radios eat batteries. Run only those you need, and keep good widgets handy to manage them.
I've had the Nexus One for AT&T for close to a month, and I live in the DC area. Take my unscientific, layman's review for what it is.
The phone is very nice. It's easily the best phone I've ever had, but I cannot say that it's a superphone without adding certain things to consider. I've been on this forum for a long time, since I bought an 8525 and was blown away to find through Google searches that people were customizing their phones to speed them up.
I really thought my days of modding the phone to death and waiting for the latest dev release to speed my phone up would be over with a 1Ghz phone with 512 MB of RAM running Android. Sadly enough, that's just not true. I figured the phone would fly out of the box. In a lot of ways it does, but I found the stock ROM to not be aesthetically smooth. The scrolling on the default launcher is borderline painful considering the hardware. Third party launchers like LauncherPro are essential (to me) for a smooth user experience.
I'm also disappointed by the browsing experience. Many sites feature choppy scrolling, another thing I thought would be behind me with a phone so powerful. Considering how the iPhone 3G my girlfriend has regularly puts up a smoother scrolling experience than the Nexus One particularly hits home.
But, after some tweaking (Cyanogen Mod, a 1.1 Ghz Kernel, and some third party apps from the Market), I am really, really enjoying the phone. The camera is very high quality, better than I expected, and the flash works much better than I anticipated. I find myself rarely using my desktop or laptop because everything I'd do on there I can accomplish on my phone. It's become rather integral to my day to day activity.
I'm probably a heavier user than most people, so my battery life is rather flimsy. I can drain the battery easily in half a day, but I keep push on, keep the brightest relatively high, and am always tinkering around with it. I bought this pack of 2 batteries and an external charger for about 20 bucks off of eBay, so I'm never without a fresh battery so it's not a big deal for me, but it would have been nice to have better battery life.
One of the biggest glaring faults is the touch screen sensor used in this phone. When I see the term superphone, I don't expect to find out that previous generation, inexpensive components are used. As it stands now, the sensor gets confused when two touches are put on within 15mm along the same axis. What this means is that for games where say a virtual stick and buttons are along the same axis you will have input issues because it'll read as one straight line rather than you moving the stick up while pressing fire.
It's something you can look up on the internet or youtube. It's been talked about quite extensively. It's definitely the biggest detractor for me. It's fine for browsing and pinching, but if you game keep that in mind. You'll also occasionally find some weird inputs in general at random, especially if there are a lot of finger prints on the screen, or if you're holding the phone with one hand and you try to reach across the screen with your thumb. All in all it's poor form to use such a lame sensor, especially considering that phones generations before this one have better hardware.
But, I love the phone. It being a Google phone almost guarantees that it will be first in line for Android updates (Froyo?).
The pro's outweigh the con's, in my opinion, and it's a very nice phone. Froyo will make it an even better phone. As far as 3G, I don't have any problems. I've gotten at as high as ~2900kbps, which is a lot faster than I ever got on my iPhone or Tilt 2.
The only phone I'd take over this is the Evo 4G, because of the screen and the 4G. But from what I read the camera's actually better on the Nexus One.
Don't do it! Nexus is all hype. Keep looking, there are better phones on the market. I love my nexus, but it annoys me. It has stupid little quirks. I can't wait until my next phone.
With that said, if you still want it. Battery life is impressive and AT&T connectivity is decent in my area.
I just dumped my iPhone 3g for the Nexus one.
The out of the box Rom is crap, particularly if you need Exchange sync full support.
You need to unlock the bootloader and put a better rom on.
Once I switched to Modaco's R21 Rom and now trying some different Kernels, it does everything I need.
It is fast, stable, my coverage on ATT is still the same, no difference.
Maybe look at getting the HTC Desire, that will run on ATT right? There are versions out there you can get that will run 3G I thought.
Nexus is not all hype... obviously no phone is perfect but I didn't regret spending $560+ for this phone... if you root or not froyo will make this phone a great buy.
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arcticreaver said:
how is the battery life?
is the phone stable on AT&T?
i'm coming from an SE X10. the phone is eye candy. and other than the camera, it ain't all that.
looks like nexus one is getting ALL the goodies. so i'm thinking about picking one up.
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Wait until June 4th and see how the Evo launch goes!
The Nexus One is amazing, but the Evo is just GOD-like!
thank you all for the feedbacks for the nexus one.
i guess the thing about nexus one is that it's going to be getting all the updates firsthand and a lot faster than almost all the phones out there. flash and the allegedly 450% boost in speed is something that i seriously consider.
i like the evo but i'm not sure if it would work with ATT's network.
HighTech216 said:
Don't do it! Nexus is all hype.
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I think the Nexus is the least hyped phone if you compare it to iPhone forexample. Especially since it's the Google phone.. you would belive it was hyped up and donw, but there was little publicity about it in my opinion. Just rumor talk and it suddenly was out for sale..
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thank you all for the feedbacks for the nexus one.
i guess the thing about nexus one is that it's going to be getting all the updates firsthand and a lot faster than almost all the phones out there. flash and the allegedly 450% boost in speed is something that i seriously consider.
i like the evo but i'm not sure if it would work with ATT's network.
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If all goes well, i'm ordering my nexus one tomorrow. You bet i'm excited. I believe the EVO only works for sprint.. but I may be wrong about that.
arcticreaver said:
thank you all for the feedbacks for the nexus one.
i guess the thing about nexus one is that it's going to be getting all the updates firsthand and a lot faster than almost all the phones out there. flash and the allegedly 450% boost in speed is something that i seriously consider.
i like the evo but i'm not sure if it would work with ATT's network.
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The Sprint Evo will definitely not work on AT&T.
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If all goes well, i'm ordering my nexus one tomorrow. You bet i'm excited. I believe the EVO only works for sprint.. but I may be wrong about that.
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Give 'em hell!
i'm really thinking about getting the nexus one. google store is closing down so i guess i have to make my decision real soon.
right now it's all about the software. i think x10 has a better overall hardware but the software is outdated and there are apps that do not support 1.6. plus flash is coming out for android and nexus one rooted or not will get it regardless. so the hardware for my x10 is impressive but without the software to make advantage of the x10 is kinda leaving me with a sour taste in my mouth. plus no multi-touch for x10, ever. another drawback...
EDIT: Read a post wrong.
I've been very very happy with my N1, much happier than my friends were with their iPhones when they first came out.
Im fine with mine. I can make it through the day on a battery although just barely on heavier usage days. This is all I have got out of any recent smartphone so charging nightly is situation normal to me. Mine has had no issues. Personally I have been quite happy with the N1, its been a pleasure to use and I have no problem with hanging on to it till the next thing comes along.
I really like this phone! It has a lot of potential but dang, HTC needs to fix some of these issues everyone is having. If they could just get it right the 1st time at least one time. I should'nt have to do all the tweaks / hacks on this forum just to get the phone to work the way it should have out of the box.
Battery issues : Some claim they don't have any issues at all ? Hard to believe.
CDMA Phone searching for GSM signal first : How the heck is the average person supposed know to check and make sure that is setup properly.
This phone can do a lot of things but a Jail-broken iPhone can do the same things. I really want to keep this phone but I am really starting to get frustrated with Android or HTC or whoever it to blame.
My 1 year old 3GS came off the charger at the same time I took my EVO off the charger last night both with 100% battery and 8 hrs later without any use the EVO was at 83%, the iPhone was at 98% and I forgot to turn the wifi off on the iPhone. Periodically throughout the day I checked the iphone and after 16 hrs setting idle it is still at 94%.
No I'm not an Apple fan boy but I must say Apple is doing something right with their operating system. yeah a lot of people are going to say that's because they don't let apps run in the background. Well, I have iPhone 4.0 GM on my 3GS and I have to say that the Multitasking works pretty good.
iphone idles better than evo.
noted.
See that's the good and bad thing about Android, there are many phones to pick from. Nexus one is a very well built phone and the only thing the new iPhone has on nexus is camera on the front, which not enough people have it yet to make a differnce, nexus one with froyo hands down beats iPhone and its only partial froyo. So point is there are better HTC products out with Android
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If they could just get it right the 1st time at least one time.
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When you purchase a 1st gen device you KNOW going in that it's gonna have problems to be ironed out. Don't want to deal with them? take it back and wait for the 2nd gen next year
Example: There's no way in hell I would buy an iPad due to this fact that it's 1st gen. I already knew before it came out that it would have problems.
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iphone idles better than evo.
noted.
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Of course it idles better then nearly ANY phone... why do you think people keep complaining about ATT? Note that it is almost always Iphone users that complain about it. The dirty little secrete about Iphones is that they have a terrible radio which idles constantly and disconnects from the towers all the time to save battery... saves a ton of battery but makes it fairly useless as a phone.
I would say compared to my TP on the same network, I get about 90% of the battery time on my Evo, IF I used it the same way... but I use my evo SO much that I actually have to recharge by 4 usually.
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When you purchase a 1st gen device you KNOW going in that it's gonna have problems to be ironed out. Don't want to deal with them? take it back and wait for the 2nd gen next year
Example: There's no way in hell I would buy an iPad due to this fact that it's 1st gen. I already knew before it came out that it would have problems.
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I can agree with some of that but, This isnt the 1st Gen Android operating system nor is the 1st Gen Sense UI. I believe Android and HTC can make this work a lot better than it does. I think they are trying harder to get more phones on out the door than anything.
The biggest reason people flock to the iPhone, and I hate to say this "It just Works"
But I will probably keep my EVO and work through the issues. I sure am liking Sprints network right now. AT&T blows where I am located.
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I can agree with some of that, but this isn't the 1st gen Android operating system nor is the 1st Gen Sense UI. I believe Android and HTC can make this work a lot better than it does. I think they are trying harder to get more phones on out the door than anything.
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I gotta agree with some of this as well
I would much rather have vanilla 2.1 Android over Sense I think.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think the battery life is great compared to my previous phone. (Which was also an Iphone 3GS).
But I've also had some experience with Android phones before, as I also owned a Nexus one, and a T-moble G1.
First thing I did was install Advanced Task Killer, and setup the auto kill for anytime I turn the screen off. Put the applications I didn't want to get killed in the ignore list, etc.
And if I'm not using something that requires GPS, I keep the GPS turned off. If I'm not in an area using wifi, I keep it turned off as well. Since I do not get 4G in my area, no point in leaving it on to search for it. So I killed that too.
I also didn't change the factory brightness settings, as I found the automatic brightness to be perfect for my eyes.
I easily get the entire day with good use out of my phone.
im starting to think HTC rushed to get these out the door with how quick after the evo release apple unveiled the iphone 4 came out. (sure everyone knew it was coming but w/e) I think htc was trying to avoid the same mistake palm made with the pre.
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iphone idles better than evo.
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Nothing runs in the background, of course it idles better than other smart phones. Apple have super secret battery technology/battery saving drivers.
Sprint battery saving sheet
I picked up a 3 page photocopied document at a Sprint center. 3 pages of applications you should disable in order to save battery. Turn off WiFi, turn off GPS, turn off Amazon MP3 market, which cannot be done because it comes back after 5 minutes.
They are almost telling you to turn off the phone, so you can see how many hours the battery will last!!!!!
Turn it off, and the battery will last many, many hours!!!!
I have also had several other Android phones. HTC Hero original, HTC Desire and MOTO Droid..
They all had issues with making it all day without using some kind of software or hack or having to shut off features to get them to last all day.
Put the iPhone OS in EVO and look out, they couldn't build enough of them.
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When you purchase a 1st gen device you KNOW going in that it's gonna have problems to be ironed out. Don't want to deal with them? take it back and wait for the 2nd gen next year
Example: There's no way in hell I would buy an iPad due to this fact that it's 1st gen. I already knew before it came out that it would have problems.
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Yea because the iPad has tons of issues.......? Oh wait, it doesn't. Just like the original iPhone had tons of issues too huh? I like Android, but I'm fed up with HTC hardware, the other manufacturers can't get on the train fast enough.
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Yea because the iPad has tons of issues.......? Oh wait, it doesn't. Just like the original iPhone had tons of issues too huh? I like Android, but I'm fed up with HTC hardware, the other manufacturers can't get on the train fast enough.
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Damn right. I have an iPad and have yet to have a single problem with it. People trying to justify the EVOs problems just give HTC an excuse to keep making low quality stuff. I paid $200 for this and signed a contract for 2 years just to get it. I shouldn't have to worry about battery covers not fitting, framerates being limited, HTC sense being terrible buggy software, screens coming apart, etc.
EVO battery life is FAR superior to my 3GS. i dont have to charge until the 2nd day after full charge. that is of course after i removed all the sprint and amazon crap. this phone is hands down superior to the iphone 3GS. ATT takes the iphone from a great device to a iPod touch that sometimes works as a phone. haven't dropped a single call! also 4G just "started" working for me in LA which is awesome. unfortunately I noticed a huge hit on battery with 4G... i disable it when not using it or i go down so fast i can see the battery losing juice right before my eyes.
i have an iPad 3g and there are certainly issues. my email address got stolen. i know its att's fault but apple chose them so i hold them partially responsible too. wifi is buggy at best for enterprise networks which is bumming people out on our campus. the lack of support for flash is flat out ridiculous for a device that claims to provide a full web experience. couple that with att downsampling just about everything they can over 3g and you start to get fed up.
-jenzo
I've had a an EVO since day one & absolutely loved the phone, but being the phone junkie I am, I had to grab an Epic as well & not so sure about my decision. I mean I can always fall back to the EVO, but there are a lot of nice benefits of the Epic...
- The screen is absolutely gorgeous(thats a given)
- I'm 50/50 on the physical keyboard & actually find I use Swype just as much
- The Hummingbird destroys the Snapdragon
But, battery life is even worse than on the EVO sadly. I mean I even have my home screen pretty much all black, as that supposedly uses zero power & can barely make it through an 8 hour work day with light use. Also, it just feels cheap compared to the EVO. I mean if I drop this thing once, I'm sure it's toast.
If I could see some Froyo on this thing that might give me more incentive to continue using it vs. the EVO!
My question, when is Froyo going to drop?
According to samsung uk it is end of september. Not sure if it includes epic, but it does say all networks so im assuming they mean all, not just UK networks.
source: http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
if you dont like the phone for the above reasons now. Froyo is not going to change it.
Froyo and subsequent updates may change gps, and 3g data usage, and increase speed. But there wont be drastic increases in battery life. It will feel the same in your hand.
Basically go back to the Evo.
I on the other hand like the phone a whole, and overall way happier with this then the evo. I'd like froyo, but it aint keeping me up at night.
I've only had the Epic for 5 days now, so I am still going to give it some more time. It's my hope that with a nice Innocase from Seidio it'll feel more solid & maybe what I'm looking for is not just Froyo, but more backing from the community with lots more selection on ROMs.
It seems like there doesnt seem to be much interest from members on creating custom ROMs, at least anywhere near the level of the EVO. I mean, I think there's literally one person working on a ROM currently that I am aware of...
I doubt that we will get as much roms as evo, however I don't think we will be left in the dust either. As for why there is only one rom dev rite now is because we don't have a way to flash n restore roms yet. Once we get that I bet development will boom.
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i think thats whats going to send me back to the evo..custom roms, kernels, sense. i wish htc had a super amoled, humming processor, 30 fps 720p, 60 fps screen, and an awesome keyboard :/..for sprint
Better than half of the evo roms are to remove sense and its framework. Fortunately touchwiz is very easy to remove but in the end that means we have less need of roms.
What do people ask for on the evo forums?
Aosp dialer. Got it
Remove rosie. Never had it
Sense widgets. Launcher pro plus
Fix the input lag. Don't have it
Fix the fps. No issue here.
Swype apk. Preinstalled.
Why is scrolling laggy? No issue on the epic.
The epic needs a radio update (the evo had 3) to help with reception and battery, a gps firmware upgrade and a fix for the file attaching lag on 3g.
Other than that its a pretty solid device.
The evo has far more that needed fixing and even on froyo still doesn't feel as fast as the epic on 2.1. The evo needs custom roms because the shipping version ****ing sucks.
We will get roms and kernels. There are already two kernels out and roms will come once the recovery is fixed.
While I love my Epic, I still haven't fallen IN LOVE with it like I did with my Nexus.
But there isn't any other phone on the market that appeals to me, and definitely nothing else on Sprint that I'd choose over the Epic.
I'm not one of the people who thinks *froyo will fix ALL PROBLEMS* but I AM hoping 2.2 comes out by the end of September and hopefully some gps and system tweaks.
We can only hope.
Aridon said:
Better than half of the evo roms are to remove sense and its framework. Fortunately touchwiz is very easy to remove but in the end that means we have less need of roms.
What do people ask for on the evo forums?
Aosp dialer. Got it
Remove rosie. Never had it
Sense widgets. Launcher pro plus
Fix the input lag. Don't have it
Fix the fps. No issue here.
Swype apk. Preinstalled.
Why is scrolling laggy? No issue on the epic.
The epic needs a radio update (the evo had 3) to help with reception and battery, a gps firmware upgrade and a fix for the file attaching lag on 3g.
Other than that its a pretty solid device.
The evo has far more that needed fixing and even on froyo still doesn't feel as fast as the epic on 2.1. The evo needs custom roms because the shipping version ****ing sucks.
We will get roms and kernels. There are already two kernels out and roms will come once the recovery is fixed.
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This ^^ a million times over. he pretty much hit the nail on the head.
The Evo NEEDED custom roms. Like whoa. There were SO many issues with it. I rooted that beast ASAP to get that phone up to speed. I haven't rooted my Epic yet. I have no need to. If you don't like touchwiz, load up Launcher Pro. It will be faster than Launcher Pro on the EVO with 2.2 (I know, because I have an EVO with Cm6 sitting right next to me).
The Epic will have rom support, dont you worry. And we will get 2.2 eventually.... but I'm in no hurry. A small fix for the GPS would suit me just fine. Maybe a radio update. Lord knows the EVO had enough radio updates and OTA updates to get it where it is now.
I'm getting great battery life. Try juice defender, got 20 hours before I needed a charge. I made 3 calls, some texts, light web use, and listened to pandora on my way to and from class.
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Hi,
I got mine Epic on Sept.2nd and so far I have noticed that the battery life depends on what you do.
On the days when I was busy with my regular staff and did not pay attention to my phone more then checking email, few text msgs, some web surfing, listening music and light game play (while waiting in the restaurant) it (battery) lasted for 12 hrs from full charge.
On the day when I was in the office and turned 4G on (yeh, they turned in on in the Rhode Island!) battery lasted less then 4 hrs and kept loosing juice even when I plugged it into the USB charger. All I have say to that is WTF!
Using Wi-Fi and playng games also cause extended battery use.
Have to note that the sales person, who sold me the phone, installed Automatic Task Killer application for me which seems to be doing it's job
I came from the iPhone after three years (I had the original, the 3G, and the 3GS). I had the EVO for a week to try it out, and then returned it and waited all summer for the Epic.
I really like it, but I kind of wish Sprint had a Galaxy S device that was more a clone of the... Galaxy S.
The iPhone was sleek and solid, and I used it with a case that made it a bit bulkier and heavier. Which was fine. But I don't really see the urgent need for keyboards on app phones nowadays. I was very fast and efficient typing on my iPhone (the text prediction on that keyboard is awesome, and I'm surprised to find that it's way better than the Android software keyboards I've tried). I'm about as fast, if not faster, with Swype, and I've only been using it less than a week. It's not really the bulkiness of the keyboard that bothers me, it's the lack of solidness it gives the phone.
When I click the button to lock or unlock it, the sliding mechanism separates a bit. It's very annoying and lacks that solid feel that the iPhone or EVO had. But other than that, it's a great phone. It's fast, got a great display, the battery life is much better than the EVO's, and it's light. I just wish it had more of a "solid" feel.
(I thought about switching to the EVO, but the lackluster graphics chip, the artificial capping of graphics output to 30fps, only decent performance out of the processor, and crappy battery life are non-starters.)
what is it about froyo that makes you want to ditch the epic?
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what is it about froyo that makes you want to ditch the epic?
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Haven't you heard? When you turn on your phone with Froyo installed Rainbows and Unicorns fly out of the screen.
stud_muffler said:
Hi,
I got mine Epic on Sept.2nd and so far I have noticed that the battery life depends on what you do.
On the days when I was busy with my regular staff and did not pay attention to my phone more then checking email, few text msgs, some web surfing, listening music and light game play (while waiting in the restaurant) it (battery) lasted for 12 hrs from full charge.
On the day when I was in the office and turned 4G on (yeh, they turned in on in the Rhode Island!) battery lasted less then 4 hrs and kept loosing juice even when I plugged it into the USB charger. All I have say to that is WTF!
Using Wi-Fi and playng games also cause extended battery use.
Have to note that the sales person, who sold me the phone, installed Automatic Task Killer application for me which seems to be doing it's job
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Ok well first of all, when you aren't using 4G, turn it off to save battery. Having WiFi, GPS, 4G and Bluetooth running when all you need is GPS in a non-4G area is extremely stupid. Moral of the story is when you aren't using it, TURN IT OFF! Also, the stock USB cord from Samsung is terrible, so invest in a new one asap. Plugging the usb cord into a usb socket will only trickle charge your device, so I would suggest plugging into the wall charger that came with your phone as it will charge MUCH faster and you can still use it while it is charging without it going down significantly.
People complaining about lack of ROMs and what-not, take a look around. There are already plenty of options out there and this phone has only been available for a month!! If you would like something in your ROM that isn't on this website, quit complaining and learn how to make your own. It also really astonishes me how someone could actually want to switch from an Epic to an Evo. The battery life issue isn't even relevant in this case, as the Evo is just a battery hog plain and simple. Stop whining, download JuiceDefender, get a custom ROM and kernel with a battery tweak such as removed DRM and undervolt, and see the difference for yourself. No offense Evo users, but the Epic takes all of your problems and solves them flawlessly.
And if for some reason you still think there aren't enough custom ROMs out there, take a look at some stuff from noobnl, the king of the Epic in my opinion. And then be amazed at this.
*P.S. noobnl you are the man, I will donate for sure whenever cm6 is out*
*And another thing, Froyo was supposed to be available at the end of September, which it clearly isn't. Until you hear otherwise, just wait because it is looking like it's going to be a while*
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Haven't you heard? When you turn on your phone with Froyo installed Rainbows and Unicorns fly out of the screen.
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happens on 2.1 also just take some shrooms
lol at this thread.
Froyo could be closer than we think. An official build for the Captivate was leaked yesterday.
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Froyo could be closer than we think. An official build for the Captivate was leaked yesterday.
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Sprint Reps "Predict" it will be at the end of october beggining nov. so we might get a leak end of this month
CwickStylz said:
I've had a an EVO since day one & absolutely loved the phone, but being the phone junkie I am, I had to grab an Epic as well & not so sure about my decision. I mean I can always fall back to the EVO, but there are a lot of nice benefits of the Epic...
- The screen is absolutely gorgeous(thats a given)
- I'm 50/50 on the physical keyboard & actually find I use Swype just as much
- The Hummingbird destroys the Snapdragon
But, battery life is even worse than on the EVO sadly. I mean I even have my home screen pretty much all black, as that supposedly uses zero power & can barely make it through an 8 hour work day with light use. Also, it just feels cheap compared to the EVO. I mean if I drop this thing once, I'm sure it's toast.
If I could see some Froyo on this thing that might give me more incentive to continue using it vs. the EVO!
My question, when is Froyo going to drop?
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Question,does Evo have Amoled or Lcd?I keep reading different things about it some posts say amoled some say slcd.
I searched through the forums quite a bit and even good but have yet to find anything specific. I'm not sure which phone to get since I can not find a rooted comparison.
Please read about my HTC Hero and my original thoughts here:
jpklink.blogspot.com
Main Points:
Weight and size are not an issue: Glass screen is a +
Price is not an issue.
Standard Mini USB charging is a +
Battery life is not so important.
Texting Speed is 100% most important item - my hero can not keep up with my fingers and it is beyond frustrating.
I know this is the Epic forum so I can't say I don't expect you to be bias, but it would be nice to hear anything at all. Just wanted to hear how the phones compare as BOTH rooted devices with all speed benefits.
As of now the epic has an issue where it will miss keys on the physical keyboard every so often. Txlexting speed is also very important to me (I have an epic) and I have been dissappinted with the physical keyboard to say the least. That being said, the evo does not even have a physical keyboard and you could use any keyboard from the evo on the epic. The app "Smart keyboard" is the best of all that I have tried. The screen on the epic is also substantially better than the evo. The evo gets updates before the epic because it is an htc phone so that is always something to consider. Good luck.
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If you fancy yourself with modding then an Evo is a clear cut winner. There are much more Roms, Mods, and source codes are always released first for HTC phones. Samsung has a history of not really supporting their devices. Epic is no exception. And if you look at the news today in the Android world, signs point to Samsung focusing on supporting Windows 7 phones in 2011 while Android will slowly move to the back seat. http: //phandroid.com/2010/11/22/samsung-focusing-more-on-windows-7-in-2011-but-will-it-matter/
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And if you look at the news today in the Android world, signs point to Samsung focusing on supporting Windows 7 phones in 2011 while Android will slowly move to the back seat. http: //phandroid.com/2010/11/22/samsung-focusing-more-on-windows-7-in-2011-but-will-it-matter/
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Damn
Samusung needs to give up on smartphones because they have no clue what their doing.
They have great screens & top notch processor but missing the most important factors. QC & SUPPORT!!!
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Damn
Samusung needs to give up on smartphones because they have no clue what their doing.
They have great screens & top notch processor but missing the most important factors. QC & SUPPORT!!!
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Yeah you can tell how tarded they are by them having the hottest phone on the planet and neglecting it.
MLHickey:
Actually, I completely forgot to mention, I don't know that I would use the keyboard much anyway. I guess if it was there, I may start to use it, but I like the touch screen keyboard, I'm quite fast with them. In fact I still use T9 a LOT, especially while I'm driving. So as far as the keyboard goes, not a huge pro/con for me. When I mention texting speeds, I just want the phone to be able to keep up with me. My experience with the HTC hero is bad in the sense that I'll be waiting every few words for the phone to catch up so I can check for errors before continuing to type.
imwillzillla:
Those are some really good points! So if I root the Evo with a custom rom, the speeds will be comparable to a rooted epic? And how come HTC stuff comes out first/sooner? Just because the phone has been out longer?
Windows 7... ew. Those are definitely some good points. Do HTC updates and that matter much if I'm installing a custom ROM?
Thanks guys.
Note: I heard the Evo now comes stocked with something that prevents it from being rooted and still today they've yet to break it. Any truth to this?
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MLHickey:
Note: I heard the Evo now comes stocked with something that prevents it from being rooted and still today they've yet to break it. Any truth to this?
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My Evo is a week old and UnrEVOked worked fine for me.
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My Evo is a week old and UnrEVOked worked fine for me.
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Great news. I've been leaning towards the evo... looks like it's decided. Thanks again MLHickey.
Last note is, should I wait for early 2011 in case HTC releases something crazy. I mean, I can live on my HTC hero a few more months if I need to.
Just thought as an epic owner Im obligated to reply. The choice is a hard one, but the epic is faster, a better screen (even if slightly smaller) and since its basically stock android doesnt need roms like cynagen to be super fast and its only slightly thicker then the evo. You also get better battery life on the epic.
As for the keyboard, its really not that bad, and a keyboard is better then nothing at times when touch typing just isnt working out as planned.
I had the same hard decesion and luckily when I was visiting home a few weeks ago I got to play with my parents evo. Don't let the benchmarks fool you, the epic is much faster, plus that screen, you get size shock from the evo, but color and contrast shock from the epic. Plus you can install htcs awesome on screen keyboard on the epic. Its the best of all worlds in my book. The evo will have faster updates though, but really.. updates are almost superficial because by time android 2.2 is unsupported should they stop there you will likely be getting a new phone. Gps might or might not work better on the evo, some epics are fine, others aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
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Just thought as an epic owner Im obligated to reply. The choice is a hard one, but the epic is faster, a better screen (even if slightly smaller) and since its basically stock android doesnt need roms like cynagen to be super fast and its only slightly thicker then the evo. You also get better battery life on the epic.
As for the keyboard, its really not that bad, and a keyboard is better then nothing at times when touch typing just isnt working out as planned.
I had the same hard decesion and luckily when I was visiting home a few weeks ago I got to play with my parents evo. Don't let the benchmarks fool you, the epic is much faster, plus that screen, you get size shock from the evo, but color and contrast shock from the epic. Plus you can install htcs awesome on screen keyboard on the epic. Its the best of all worlds in my book. The evo will have faster updates though, but really.. updates are almost superficial because by time android 2.2 is unsupported should they stop there you will likely be getting a new phone. Gps might or might not work better on the evo, some epics are fine, others aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
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But what about Epic's ugly azz cool color temperature?! Whites look grey on it, screen has blue tint... sorry, photographer coming out in me, but Evo's colors are much more accurate.
quote: "especially while I'm driving. " i dont care what phone you have, this is dangerous and very stupid. please refrain from texting while driving.
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Just thought as an epic owner Im obligated to reply. The choice is a hard one, but the epic is faster, a better screen (even if slightly smaller) and since its basically stock android doesnt need roms like cynagen to be super fast and its only slightly thicker then the evo. You also get better battery life on the epic.
As for the keyboard, its really not that bad, and a keyboard is better then nothing at times when touch typing just isnt working out as planned.
I had the same hard decesion and luckily when I was visiting home a few weeks ago I got to play with my parents evo. Don't let the benchmarks fool you, the epic is much faster, plus that screen, you get size shock from the evo, but color and contrast shock from the epic. Plus you can install htcs awesome on screen keyboard on the epic. Its the best of all worlds in my book. The evo will have faster updates though, but really.. updates are almost superficial because by time android 2.2 is unsupported should they stop there you will likely be getting a new phone. Gps might or might not work better on the evo, some epics are fine, others aren't.
Just my 2 cents.
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Is your two cents from owning both? My battery lasts way longer than my girls epic
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Is your two cents from owning both? My battery lasts way longer than my girls epic
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I'm not tryna sound biased but u gotta be kidding me.. maybe ur gf's usage is much higher.. honestly 4 of my friends have evo's and whenever we're chilling on either of our houses, they fight over the charger.. although my epic is rooted and has custom rom+kernel and their evo doesn't but even b4 i rooted mine i had much better battery life..
The keyboard on this thing is not great, but it beats having none. WPM will not be high with this keyboard, although accuracy is not bad. Still, coming from a Hero, I really like having a keyboard now.
The main gripe is Samsung's poor support, small ROM, and the gps on this thing.
If you text a lot, this should still be your choice as it is faster than virtual keyboards.
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Is your two cents from owning both? My battery lasts way longer than my girls epic
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Lets be a smarta$$ about it.
Anyways.
No. I have asked about the Evo's battery life and I quite frequently hear it hardly makes it through the day from people who DO own them. I've had mine unplugged with moderate use and plenty of calls since 7am and its at 40% right now at 11PM. Now to be fair.. my Epic is rooted with the battery sucking processes from Sprint/Samsung cut out, the Evo's i've heard about are stock. If both were rooted you'd probably cut similar results.
They both have 1500MAH batteries, they will both be roughly the same if you cut the fat out of each I imagine.
As for the screen, yeah the colors are not as accurate, but you're not going to notice, they have a cooler look to them which bothers the heck out of graphics designers and the like heh heh but really.. it's still stunning in comparison to the evo, but thats just MY opinion.
You really need to go into the Sprint store and play with both as much as you can.... you really can't go wrong with either of them and their pro's and con's split pretty evenly.
1) for the keyboard issue..try disabling Swype and use the hardware kb.
2) Epic even with the custom roms we have is doing fairly well...I mean take all the custom roms on the EVO and the Epic and you'll notice there isn't too much difference...most of the advantages EVO had was gotten from the Nexus One which hopefully we will get from the Nexus S.
3) You can do a bunch with custom roms on the EVO to make it run smoother but It'll never run as smooth as the epic.
4) The colors can't be more accurate on the EVO because its only 64k colors..if anything Droid X has probably the most accurate colors...but since EVO is only 64k colors it won't be accurate...the Super AMOLED tends to be mroe blue because the blue dies out the fastest...over time it balances itself out...on my device though if I set it to 100% brightness its white as I lower the brightness it turns grayish..but thats what lowering brightness is suppose to do...
5) Yeah.. texting while driving is bad...
6) Battery life varies by your usage..overall though if you configure it best you can on both devices Epic will win.
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Lets be a smarta$$ about it.
Anyways.
No. I have asked about the Evo's battery life and I quite frequently hear it hardly makes it through the day from people who DO own them. I've had mine unplugged with moderate use and plenty of calls since 7am and its at 40% right now at 11PM. Now to be fair.. my Epic is rooted with the battery sucking processes from Sprint/Samsung cut out, the Evo's i've heard about are stock. If both were rooted you'd probably cut similar results.
They both have 1500MAH batteries, they will both be roughly the same if you cut the fat out of each I imagine.
As for the screen, yeah the colors are not as accurate, but you're not going to notice, they have a cooler look to them which bothers the heck out of graphics designers and the like heh heh but really.. it's still stunning in comparison to the evo, but thats just MY opinion.
You really need to go into the Sprint store and play with both as much as you can.... you really can't go wrong with either of them and their pro's and con's split pretty evenly.
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i had to read that twice, he wasnt talkin about you only having two cents... he was referring to owning both phones... just kinda seemed like u took that the wrong way...
Personally, I never got to actually play around with an evo but I will say these things about my epic:
The keyboard, though sometimes annoying, is a great bonus to have for those who text/email/im/fb/whatever a lot. And you can bring the htc keyboard over to the epic as well.
The battery life on custom roms/kernels seems to be better when compared to most evo scenarios (I don't have an evo so don't quote me)
The color temps can be fixed using voodoo color.
The phone DEFINITELY responds better to user input than the evo, hands down (probably due to the evo having so much bloat, and also due to the better built cortex processor)
Updates on the evo happen more quickly, this is very true. But our devs have done a great job fixing MOST of our major issues.
This is a big one that people seem to be failing to mention. The new froyo modems seem to FIX gps PERMANENTLY. I've been running wifi on my epic for days without a reboot and gps is on hot start (not using the cold start workaround) and every time I get a full lock within seconds (using gps status).
All in all, I love my epic and the way it runs thanks to our community, but if you want a more reliable manufacturer (and a community that isn't chock full of spoiled brats who's parents bought them the phone), go with the evo.
If you can deal with the slower updates and the forum nonsense, go with the epic.
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Lol!
I think more kids end up with an epic over an evo just because of the keyboard. Look son it has a keyboard so you can type fast! "OMG L33T AHH! SWEET!" lol..
I wonder how many kids actually are on these forums when I was 12 I wasn't looking for ways to hack my cell phone... then again when I was 12 I think that Motorola "flip" phone that looked like something outta star trek was the most popular one for being so "portable". lol
uhm no, thats why there are sidekicks.. i doubt u will c a kid with an epic or evo..
All these hater threads being posted about "I'm returning the Atrix" , "The Atrix Screen is horrible" and "The Atrix doesn't do this..." I decided to show this device some love. We all know it's an electronic device/phone first and sometimes things are broken or just not working right...I get that! However, let's not let the VERY FEW bad things out weigh the MANY GOOD things about the Atrix. Let's enjoy our new toy and give props when props is due.
So I wanted to start this thread for people like myself to post reasons why you bought the Atrix, what you like about it and why you might decide to keep it past your 3o day return period.
I'll go first:
What I like about the Atrix is the sleekness of it. The light weight feel in the hand. and The snappiness of it. One of the reasons I think I may keep the Atrix past my 30 day period is because I feel that if Motorola does allow the bootloader to be unlocked the devs will make this phone one of the most powerful devices out if used to the best of it's ability. And if they don't release the bootloader, I'll still be happy with it and still keep it.
I like that I don't have to have a charger at my desk, car, home desk, couch, night stand, etc. the battery life is great for me.
I like that the screen practically fills the face. I like the resolution and crispness.
I love the form factor. I like how it fits in my hand, the placement of the fingerprint sensor works perfect for me.I like that it's light but doesn't feel cheap or fragile.
I like that it's not tied to a pc like my iphone.
I love how fast it is, I have no issues with lag or un responsiveness.
I love that it isn't an iphone. I like iphones..I love my atrix
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Ill join in.
I love the weight of this phone, its not heavy like most other phones. Its more like what you expect it to be like.
The phone fits your hand VERY well. The finger print reader is positioned so that if you cradle the phone correctly, your index finger is resting on the finger print reader a good portion of the time.
I have yet to have any problems of this phone slowing down.
The battery life is AMAZING! Now I might not be the uber smartphone user that has the phone in front of his/her face 24/7 (driving/walking down halls running into people) but I still use this phone a lot and it easily lasts a full day on 1 charge.
The screen is perfect, everyone saying that the screen sucks need to wait till software comes out that utilizes this resolution. A good 90% of the stuff on the market right now was not made for the resolution on this phone. Also the real estate of this screen is amazing. They utilized all the screen space they could on this phone.
I will also be keeping this phone past the 30 day return period since I feel that the phone flat out works right out of the box. Yea a custom rom would be cool but this phone does everything I need it to do and more without breaking a sweat.
+1 for the Atrix
I really love the battery life. I got home from work tonight at 6:30 and still had 50% and I used it a ton today.
Speed. Silly speed for days. I've not seen any of the lag I hear about and it never locks up on me.
Games are insanely good, especially Tegrazone approved games. Samurai 2 and Dungeon Defenders is sick.
I dig the size and weight. It doesn't feel like a brick in my pocket.
Love the fingerprint reader as unlock.
The screen is fantastic and realistic.
Camcorder has taken some really great videos for me. I recorded almost an entire live concert with it from the send row and it looks and sounds fantastic. I recorded from the car dock to test it and at 45mph the video was crisp and didnt' stutter.
The car dock owns.
This one even surprises me: I don't hate blur. Yes, I said it.
I like the blur widget options along with the standard Android widgets. I find that with the power of the phone that blur doesn't offer any slow down. I wouldn't like it with a 528mhz processor, but it screams on the Atrix so I'm good with it.
Wow, it is nice to see a thread in which people want to say positive things!
Just to add to what everyone has already said (I'm a big fan).
I already love the device. If the bootloader is ever unlocked... holy 'smokes'... it will just be like another christmas - in the middle of the year.
no dropped calls
better signal (probably helps the no dropped calls stat too)
much better battery life
good hi def screen
great speaker
fast as hell
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no dropped calls
better signal (probably helps the no dropped calls stat too)
much better battery life
good hi def screen
great speaker
fast as hell
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I like having alerts, ringtones, and battery life as proficient as blackberrys.
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Wow, it is nice to see a thread in which people want to say positive things
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I know right....I got tired of seeing all these negative threads about people returning the phone, they expected certain features that's not here so they're gonna return the phone etc. It was getting crazy.
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I love how i dont have to root it to to get rid of the lag isues tht other phones have.
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This is my first smart phone, so I have no prior experience to compare my Atrix experience to. Because of my lack of experience with such devices, I know I am not taxing it, putting it through the rigorous paces that others do, or even utilizing much of its potential. But I like it, and I'm pleased with it.
It is very light, easy to pocket, and it fits my hands well. Sheathed in the Body Glove Mirage TPU case, it is secure in my grasp.
It has a great screen. Even small text in web pages is crisp and readable.
I love having an internet browser with me all the time. I used it today in my garden to look up information on soil preparation.
Texting on this phone is a dream. It has a great virtual keyboard. The screen is wonderfully sensitive to a quick and light touch, which makes typing very fast and accurate.
The phone is fast and delightfully responsive. There is virtually no latency when accessing menus and apps.
The battery life is excellent. I can use it all day without running it down completely. Recharging overnight is all that's needed.
LOVE my Atrix
FAST, absolutely no lag, 1 gig of RAM, great quality construction, GREAT screen despite what others think (just look at a hi res video), a pleasure to play with!!
The phone is great out of the box compared to how the Captivate was. This phone is a smartphone on steroids. Plenty of power, RAM, and internal storage for applications for daily use. The fingerprint lockscreen is pretty nifty. 4in is the perfect size in my opinion and the phone is nice and loud.
The drawbacks are the screen isn't as good as SAMOLED, Motoblur is kind of a bummer, and white notification bar is annoying. I am really nitpicking but there isn't too much to complain about the phone.
ok honestly, i just got mine yesterday and didn't see any of the complaints that people are making about it that would make somebody wanna return it, either u got a defective device or u just complain entirely too much(easy fix, return it for another one that works duh). they talking about speed test this and that compared to the iphone/inspire/evo/etc. but no phone is perfect and honestly this phone is better then all of them. Yea it's running motorola Blur, but motorola blur isn't bad at all, the phone that made it look bad was that weak backflip that had sooooo many bugs, i kno cause my sis has it. Another thing, people are complaining about the bootloader, the devs are currently working hard to crack it, and very soon will from looking at their thread. Just wait til this thing is rooted, it's gonna shock a lot of people that returned it for these future phones that come out, so please(not everybody) stop complaining so much and making people seem like this phone is horrible just because u don't like it and it's not 2 seconds faster then your ROOTED device or inspire, u may just have a defective device......
sorri about the rant but after playing with this phone for a day it kinda frustrated me seeing people giving up on this phone soooo quickly, but i like everything about the phone nothing has disappointed me yet
Coming from a (stock) Nexus One that was the best phone I EVER used, this phone is:
- sexier
- faster
- lasting longer
- much nicer to watch videos on
- impossible to fill up with apps (!!!)
It is in general an awesome phone! Sure, glitches here & there, however nothing that will not be fixed in an imminent update.
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sorri about the rant but after playing with this phone for a day it kinda frustrated me seeing people giving up on this phone soooo quickly, but i like everything about the phone nothing has disappointed me yet
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+1; I understand Motorola has a history of locking down their phones, and the Xoom is a different device entirely...but the fact they're giving that the option of a lockable/unlockable bootloader gives me some hope.
It took some time for the Captivate development to take off, but once people were able to utilize i9000 ROMs/kernels, there were a ton of ROM/kernel options, and almost all of those piggybacked i9000 development from people outside of the United States. So I'm planning on sticking with this phone for a while, unless the Atrix part of the XDA forums here becomes a desolate wasteland and the phone gets abandoned. As somebody mentioned in another thread, once this phone comes out on different carriers in different countries, there should be a lot more people plugging away on the development side.
That said, I love the hardware portions of this phone; it feels solid, the battery cover looks nice, the camera is fantastic, the GPS works great, the screen is solid (if not spectacular, yet), I missed having a flash on my camera and LED notifications, and even with the Motoblur bloat still there...it's snappy.
battery life, battery life, battery life. and did i mention battery life?
over 40 hours on my last charge. im pressed.
i was thinking about returning due to locked bootloader......but the fact of the matter is, i can still do far more customization to this phone with a locked bootloader than i could on a jailbroken iphone (what i came from). i loved the roms/kernels for the captivate that i had for 3 weeks, but even with that phone supercustomized and overclocked, it still didnt perform as well as the atrix.
I like when chicks see me with this badass phone. I usually get laid. This phone is a chick magnet.
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I like when chicks see me with this badass phone. I usually get laid. This phone is a chick magnet.
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Funny as hell...lmao...Good Post!
I'd like to second everyones opinions about the phone. Coming from a iphone 3g ill never go back. I believe when froyo catches up with better apps to support the atrix's dual cores's and att finally upgrades there cell towers' and the phone has only been out for a little more then 2 weeks I'm sure the devs here need more time to play around with the phone. As I'm not rooting yet ill wait for the gingerbread update and att to upgrade there cell towers before I start rooting. But anyway back to subject I am very pleased with the phone as I agree with all comments that members have posted about the positive things.
Ps. I am pleased to live beside a att cell tower mainantance worker and he has said that middle-eastern southern U.S. towers will be updated to the LTE network no later than this years 2nd quarter and he also made a comment about att working with verizon getting everything going?? But he couldn't provided any hard prof.
Now my fingers hurt thanks swype.
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First of all, I've never used a phone that some people didn't hate. The Atrix is the best Android phone. It beats the Nexus S and it beats the oversized, overhyped Desire HD. It beats all the plastic Samsungs. The form factor is perfect. The weight and balance are perfect. The screen is excellent. Call quality is excellent. I like it. I write about smartphones and I use them all. This beats all Androids as far as I'm concerned. And like all Androids, it isn't a boring iPhone, and let's face it that is a boring device.