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This device is slowly racking up the checkmarks that have me miss my iphone less and less.
The htc_ime keyboard was a huge one...many other gems have just about sealed the deal. The functionality has just about overwhelmed the usability advantage of the iphone (which it had to do!).
My big issue is copy paste feature....which i needed extensively on the iphone.
Specifically the ability to copy a whole page.....not the page url, but whole page...images and all.
Unless I'm really losing it, the N1 one is incapable of it.
Wondering if rooted, this function exists.
I appreciate any responses.
Thanks
Most apps allow copy and paste. Try doing a long-press on the text and look for "select text" then select the text using the trackball. Pressing the trackball will automatically copy the text.
Then you can paste in most text fields with a similar long-press and "paste"
Thanks
I have been using my finger ala iphone to acccess the text and try to move it down but it only gets a small amount of text.
ill try the trackball.
Why all the bad press for Android and the Nexus?
I don't really understand. Granted, the guy is obviously an Apple fanboy, but, there are a lot of negative reviews out there. No multi-touch? Give me a break.
I can't post a link yet-- search "google-android-personal-thoughts" for the Boy Genius report.
while android OS may not have some of the features of iphone OS, and yes the controls are definatly not as streamlined as iPhone, Android OS can do many, many things iPhone users can only dream of (ESPECIALLY if your iPhone is not jailbroken).
The iPhone OS, while being very intuitive and streamlined, feels like it was made for children. Everything you do in the iPhone OS is linear and controlled. This even goes for the App store, where Apple controls what apps can and cannot be distributed through the Appstore with an iron fist. If iPhone OS is your home, Apple is your strict dad.
Android on the other hand is much more lenient. On the Nexus One, they even give you the option to "jailbreak" (root) your phone out of the box! All you need to do is type in one simple 3 word command from your PC's command prompt.
Also, most of the apps on the iPhone appstore are garbage. Sure there may be over 100,000 apps to download, but 80% of them are useless iBeer/Flashlight apps, dumbed down games, or broken applications the so called devs cooked together to make a quick $0.99 off anyone who is eager to spend their money on something that looks cool on the description.
Dolphin browser has a "read it later" option.
Don't know if that counts.
Have NO idea what sixcoronas or melkers sic posts have to do with my question which is simply is there a way to cut and paste and entire intact page...not an url of the page....which, I said, is done really well on the iphone, gasp! (must be a really inflammatory thing to say for some reason).
Anyway, Couldnt do it with the trackball.
When highlighting text the most i can copy is a small paragraph.
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Have NO idea what sixcoronas or melkers sic posts have to do with my question which is simply is there a way to cut and paste and entire intact page...not an url of the page....which, I said, is done really well on the iphone, gasp! (must be a really inflammatory thing to say for some reason).
Anyway, Couldnt do it with the trackball.
When highlighting text the most i can copy is a small paragraph.
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Just curious as to why you would need this feature... perhaps there is a better way to accomplish what you're trying to do, without having to copy/paste?
You could try Any Web Copy from the market or some kind or screenshot app if you don't need to manipulate the text.
Anyone point me in the right direction, I really like the HTC Sense Notes Widget found here However, I cannot get it to work because I've removed sense.
Any ideas or replacements - Thanks
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Anyone point me in the right direction, I really like the HTC Sense Notes Widget found here However, I cannot get it to work because I've removed sense.
Any ideas or replacements - Thanks
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Right now I use two things - evernote and notification notes. Notification notes is great for quick little notes...in my case, I usually use it for shopping lists. It holds the note in the task bar until you delete it, which makes for really easy access
Evermore is a cloud based note storage service that allows you to store text or media notes from your phone or pc, and will sync them between whatever devices you use it on.
XM Notes.
8pen from my supersonic yea....
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XM Notes.
8pen from my supersonic yea....
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After posting, I came across XM Notes - I like the interface but dislike appearance of the widget. My search continues
Have you tried GTasks? It does the trick for me.
Supa Sonic Sent
I really like OnePunch its free off the market and places editable sticky notes on your screen or you can just use it as a note app and not bother with the sticky note feature. If you do like the sticky notes you can change the colors of them as well as edit them without worry of the need to delete and recreate them from scratch. I myself have one of my pages devoted to sticky notes.
Use Catch Notes (formerly 3banana) here.. Good stuff.
Evernote. Use it for all my lectures.
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Note widget is the name of the one I use. Can have it have transparent background. It's also free.
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Thanks everyone for the great input...
Some of your suggestions, although great, were a little more than what I was looking for. After some extensive market searching I found one that I really enjoy. Its called Staesj
I should have been a little more clearer on what exactly I was looking for. I was looking for a note app that would allow me to place a nice looking widget on one of my home screens, which ultimately would allow me to click on it and immediately edit it using a keyboard or a finger to scribble. I don't plan on using it as a to do list app or storing important notes but mainly for quick entries when on the road or on the phone (i.e. a phone number).
Staesj is a very simple, yet effective little app with a very small footprint. I came across other apps, specifically Multi Memo, which did EVERYTHING i wanted however I noticed a few drawbacks. 1) The app pulls a GPS location for every app entered (boo). 2) a separate widget app is required to display the notes on your home screen 3) seemed rather large for its purpose
if anyone comes across anything better, im always up for suggestions thanks.
Well after 2 weeks of testing, I think I have to make the decision to use LectureNotes as my primary note taking application rather than SNote. It was tough becuase I would much prefer to use the native note taking app, but here are my reasons why in case it helps anyone else make their decision. To give a background and level set, I have been a tablet pc user for many years and have grown very dependant on OneNote for taking customer meeting notes. I always felt that using a tablet with a pen allowed me to still connect with my customers rather than typing notes. I went paperlass many years ago when I quickly realized that old notebooks could not be referenced on the road and scanning was just not something I wanted to spend my time doing.
On to my reasons.
1. I have found LetureNotes to be much more customizable than SNote.
a. You can select which buttons are on the menu bar, each one individaully
b. You can do away with the silly (imo) icons that respresent the notebooks and have a simple list which is much faster when you have a lot of notebooks and sub-notebooks
c. You can literally pick each feature that you want to use or not - system bar, page numbers, zoom bars, pencil box
d. You can set it to revert back to the pen after a single use of the eraser, zoom, or cutter
2. I have found it to be much more like OneNote in that you can do the following
a. You can lasso tect with either a box or customer loop and move that text around on the screen - important when needing to re-organize you notes during a meeting so that they make sense later
b. You can add a date/time stamp into your notes to remind you later
c. You can erase with either the eraser or you can use the undo/redo buttons to move backwards and forwards thru your penstrokes.
3. There are more levels of organization. SNote only allows you to go 5 notebooks deep. I am note sure how far LN goes, but I think in my test notebook I had at least 10 notebooks deep which is more than I would ever need
4. You can add a page to a note with a single click
5. This is huge - you can set lecture notes to keep the screen on even after the tablet has locked itself. I am forced to use a PIN lock in order to access my work email. If I am in a meeting with a customer and had to unlock the screen if it locked up that would be onconvenient. It also allows it to stay on at my desk in case I have to pick up up quickly for an unexpected phone call.
6. Last thing I can think of for now is that I have swapped 3 emails with the developer for help and suggestions. I also tried this app about 6 months ago with my HTC Flyer and find it to be much better now. Probably a lot to do with the device, but I think it has also improved greatly.
I know a lot of people already like LN and many would say that the splitscreen of Snote outweighs all those things. I only hope that being able to use other apps in splitscreen mode will come in the future.
Just wanted to share incase that helps anyone else.
Yes LectureNotes is great but:
You can't import pda files for markup.
You can't type.
You can't link notes to calendar events.
You can't do split screen.
I feel that Snotes will get better with every OTA. Still, for just taking notes in class, Lecture Notes is a fine option.
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You can type but You have to hunt it in the menu to do so. Overall lam sticking with snote for many reasons. I'm not the avid writer that the OP is and I consider myself more 50/50 between writing and typing, or hopefully this tablet will help me to get to 50% writing!
So from my usage snote is a much more user-friendly and functional app for me.
Per a thread I posted about Polaris and Dropbox enabling me to ink the same document on my tablet and PC, I am trying out Word documents as notebooks. Here's that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856691
I am also an avid OneNote user, and FWIW, I have found Freenote to be the closest app experience to it. It is packed with features. But it is also not intuitive, and even having used it for a while I still sometimes forget how to do things that should be simple.
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Yes LectureNotes is great but:
You can't import pda files for markup.
You can't type.
You can't link notes to calendar events.
You can't do split screen.
I feel that Snotes will get better with every OTA. Still, for just taking notes in class, Lecture Notes is a fine option.
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Typing is coming. Dev is working on it.
Split screen - meh. Don't currently care for it much. Needs work.
I'm sure the dev with do the pda import thing too, and if not, there are other avenues.
All you have to do is ask and the dev addresses it. Best CS I ever saw except for Amazon. Way better than Sammy.
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Yes LectureNotes is great but:
You can't import pda files for markup.
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Do you mean PDF files, the paid version can import pdf and mark up. It can also batch import as pages. Even better, can mark up on a different layer.
I cranked the quality settings for importing pdf files to improve results.
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Could someone enlighten me on how to import pdfs. I can't seem to figure it out.
Nm: figured out I needed an add on.
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Could someone enlighten me on how to import pdfs. I can't seem to figure it out.
Nm: figured out I needed an add on.
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On LN can I set a black background with white pen? I know it is odd but it is actually much easier for me to write on and read white pen on black background like a blackboard and chalk. Can we import .pdf's or images as backgrounds?
One benefit of using LN is that it frees you to run CM10 without worrying about losing Snotes.
How does LN doe at syncing with Evernote? Snotes does that very poorly.
Just gave LN a try for a little while. I found the inking to be quite hit and miss. Very often it would not detect the beginning of my pen stroke. Also i didnt find the pen marks to be a smooth and antialiased as in Snote.
I just dont want to give up Snotes system wide integration and im not one of these people who thinks cm10 is so amazing i am willing to sacrifice functionality just to have it.
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Double-check your settings option. I have no problem.
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Do you mean PDF files, the paid version can import pdf and mark up. It can also batch import as pages. Even better, can mark up on a different layer.
I cranked the quality settings for importing pdf files to improve results.
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Thanks. I don't use it so I forgot it was there.
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On LN can I set a black background with white pen? I know it is odd but it is actually much easier for me to write on and read white pen on black background like a blackboard and chalk. Can we import .pdf's or images as backgrounds?
One benefit of using LN is that it frees you to run CM10 without worrying about losing Snotes.
How does LN doe at syncing with Evernote? Snotes does that very poorly.
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There is a blackboard mode under settings. You can also import any png or jpg.
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Just gave LN a try for a little while. I found the inking to be quite hit and miss. Very often it would not detect the beginning of my pen stroke. Also i didnt find the pen marks to be a smooth and antialiased as in Snote.
I just dont want to give up Snotes system wide integration and im not one of these people who thinks cm10 is so amazing i am willing to sacrifice functionality just to have it.
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It was like that for me, too, until I went into Settings and turned on Pen-only input.
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It was like that for me, too, until I went into Settings and turned on Pen-only input.
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Thanks I'll give that a try maybe it will make it better.
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LN is great for syncing because it saves pages individual not in a big file, so you don't have to transfer the whole document, only the modified/added pages. The only thing i miss is a 100% zoom button and the possibility to import from clipboard like snote does.
LN allows you to back up your files to any cloud service (dropbox). It breaks the pages into individual files, which is not ideal, but at least I can view the files on my pc. The back up is also very fast.
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Ive been trying to like LN, I just dont. Just something about the way the pen write bugs me. Who knows.
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LN is great for syncing because it saves pages individual not in a big file, so you don't have to transfer the whole document, only the modified/added pages. The only thing i miss is a 100% zoom button and the possibility to import from clipboard like snote does.
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You can import from clipboard in LN.
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There is a blackboard mode under settings. You can also import any png or jpg.
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For engineer style drawings I like blue background with white pens.
Makes me feel like I am on MythBusters
I have made a Templates folder and have all sorts of templates like notes/engineering/graph/yellow legal pad (with pdf background)
I have a month at a time diary with pdf background and put home stuff on layer 2 and work stuff on layer 3 so I can choose what to view.
For syncing I am using dropsync to send my pages to dropbox. best solution I have found so far.
So you are importing a blue background, then, as your solution? I like your folder of templates idea. Hope you don't mind if I borrow it?
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So you are importing a blue background, then, as your solution? I like your folder of templates idea. Hope you don't mind if I borrow it?
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Of course not, go right ahead.
For engineering type drawing I am just setting the background to blue with the notebook settings.
For legal pad I used a pdf I got a open office template for from here opened with openoffice (actually libreoffice) and exported to pdf
For calendars I went to here and made a month at a time.
To make a new notebook from a template without pdf inside simply tap "+" and then tap on the "template" at top and choose.
To make a new notebook from a template with a pdf inside, long press the template notebook and choose duplicate notebook.
For the current month and notes I long press notebook and "Create Shortcut", a trick I found; because opening the main shortcut takes you back to your last location. make a shortcut and rename the file it points to and now you have a shortcut that always goes to the top notebook board. (little pop up winge, but that is ok)
Hope that helps.
P.S. I have been in touch with Markus and he is very helpful.
arjag said:
Of course not, go right ahead.
For engineering type drawing I am just setting the background to blue with the notebook settings.
For legal pad I used a pdf I got a open office template for from here opened with openoffice (actually libreoffice) and exported to pdf
For calendars I went to here and made a month at a time.
To make a new notebook from a template without pdf inside simply tap "+" and then tap on the "template" at top and choose.
To make a new notebook from a template with a pdf inside, long press the template notebook and choose duplicate notebook.
For the current month and notes I long press notebook and "Create Shortcut", a trick I found; because opening the main shortcut takes you back to your last location. make a shortcut and rename the file it points to and now you have a shortcut that always goes to the top notebook board. (little pop up winge, but that is ok)
Hope that helps.
P.S. I have been in touch with Markus and he is very helpful.
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Question: Where you able to move the section of the application that stors your notes into DropSync so that when you make a change it automatically syncs that to Dropbox?
Markus told me about that option when I was trying to see if he would be able to get a sync to Evernote, but I am unsure how to get it done. I went into My Files and found the dropbox folder and the LN folder. I tried creating a new folder in the dropbox folder that way to see if it would show up in my dropbox, but it did not work.
Is tehre a way to have LN sync anytime you make a change to a file?
Also, if you created a template in PDF, how does that work? Everytime you open it you are annotating a pdf file and it saves itself again like that? I would love to have PDF files of all my LN's in my dropbox with the same folder tree.
Thanks.
after 3 months with the Ativ WP8 I start thinking to change to android (eventually Galaxy4) for good reasons
1. Incomplete BT stack - no keyboard to connect or certain consoles
2. Miserable sync with Outlook and One-Notes
3. Limited camera functions - e.g. where to save and to transfer to a PC)
4. Cannot use DropBox
5. Useless letters in apps
6. Want not and cannot allow certain info an the cloud (SkyDrive)
7. Calendar - no weekly, daily and to-do app
8. No basic info like battery status, signal strength, Wi-Fi visible as a top bar
9. Better organization for apps, e.g. based on importance and not just one long list to scroll, why not at least two
I am aware that WP8 is a great improvement and with good tools, but I have to decide what serves my daily needs the best. Is there any major update in the next few months to expect. Any suggestions
Not sure if trolling or just ...
Sell it to me.
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Not trolling mate, this isn't windowsphonecentral. You're not going to get an army of windows phone enthusiasts trying to go against this guy.
Lol trolls.
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Not trolling mate, this isn't windowsphonecentral. You're not going to get an army of windows phone enthusiasts trying to go against this guy.[/QUOT]
Given his reasons, I am 100% convinced he is either a troll or too stupid to use a smartphone, in which case, Android/WP/IOS won't make much of a difference.
So I think he is a troll.
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I mean it is very difficult to find the signal strength
If you're not happy with how the phone handles things and if it can't do certain things you need it to do the best way to go is to sell the phone and get one that does. Given that you already tried to find solutions for some of those things and found out that they could not be done differently on WP you are left with only two options:
- live with how things are done/can be done (e.g. Jump Lists in the App List, pinning important Apps to the Start Screen)
- get rid of the phone and use something else in the hopes of it doing things the way you want them done
You can be sure not a troll nor stupid. I use mobile phones from the beginning and can very well distinguish pros and cons. We can and do build out own servers and use the phone as a business tool. Just see what MS did with the BT stack, incomplete, you cannot connect a simple keyboard which is needed when taking notes in conferences, Using the cloud for confidential information is a nono, DropBox does not work with WP8.... Me or someone else calling stupid shows where your standard is.
When I make a final decision to sell the phone you will be the first for an offer. It will come with a nice black leather case open front and 32 GB SD card. I need some additional research to find the right solution.
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after 3 months with the Ativ WP8 I start thinking to change to android (eventually Galaxy4) for good reasons
1. Incomplete BT stack - no keyboard to connect or certain consoles
2. Miserable sync with Outlook and One-Notes
3. Limited camera functions - e.g. where to save and to transfer to a PC)
4. Cannot use DropBox
5. Useless letters in apps
6. Want not and cannot allow certain info an the cloud (SkyDrive)
7. Calendar - no weekly, daily and to-do app
8. No basic info like battery status, signal strength, Wi-Fi visible as a top bar
9. Better organization for apps, e.g. based on importance and not just one long list to scroll, why not at least two
I am aware that WP8 is a great improvement and with good tools, but I have to decide what serves my daily needs the best. Is there any major update in the next few months to expect. Any suggestions
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So to avoid wasting more thread space criticizing OP:
1. Yes, the BT stack is limited, but what's there works well (other phones have all sorts of issues with BT freezing on connect, etc.)
2. If by "Outlook," you mean Outlook.com or an Exchange server, nothing syncs better with those than WP; same with OneNote; the only thing that would make sense is if you mean data stored in a local PST on the desktop Outlook app, which WP doesn't directly sync to-- valid point, but other platforms don't do native sync at all (or very well) either, so the only real comparison point is Windows Mobile 6.x lol; if you do want to do local Outlook syncing, try Akruto Sync
3. What's limited? Plug in a USB cable, or open your SkyDrive folder, and it's all there
4. Actually you can-- see the "Boxfiles" app
5. Don't know what you mean
6. Don't know what you mean
7. The Calendar app has daily, agenda, and month views, along with to-dos- what more are you looking for?
8. All of that is in the top bar- just tap it
9. That's what start screen pinning is for; the list itself has alphabetical and search functions
Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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On the top bar, if you tap anywhere in the bar (on the time or anywhere to the left of it), the cell + Wifi + BT + battery status show up. They disappear after a few seconds in the interest of clean design (then show up only when there's a problem, like no signal or low battery). On the app list, in addition to the alphabetical jump-list, there's also a search button at the top-left.
The Calendar app has to-dos (see the "to-do" tab to the right of "agenda"). Week view is indeed missing-- MS should prob implement it in landscape view, as Apple did when it added week view in iOS 5. You can sort of approximate it by tapping month view -> day for each day of the week. Something weird about the month view is that if you look at it carefully on a 720p device in landscape, you'll notice the number of items matches how many you have scheduled for that day, but the actual text is gibberish (lorem ipsum) instead of your actual items, since it's not meant to be visible haha.
I've been a pretty heavy OneNote user- the WP8 app is not the full desktop app by any means, but it's better than what you get on Android or iOS. The local file manager issue is valid-- WP8 does not expose the file system in the interest of simplicity, which does make things less flexible than, say, Windows Mobile. I use SkyDrive as a sort of local drive, since everything in WP8 can save there-- but if you have concerns with consumer cloud services (SkyDrive, Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, etc.) being subpoenable, etc., that's a valid concern.
There is some motion in that space, though-- I know of many law firms that have switched to Office 365 for Exchange/Sharepoint/etc. (which is a lot more data than just files in SkyDrive), since the uptime and security is actually better than what they had in-house (http://www.microsoftbusinesshub.com/Industries/Legal). That includes "SkyDrive Pro," the Sharepoint file store.
If I can suggest something, take a look at the Surface RT, with the Type Cover. You'll get a full-blown Windows experience, with local files, full-blown Office 2013 (minus x86 macros) with desktop OneNote, etc., and a great keyboard, but 10-hour battery life, in a 1.5 lb form factor. There's a TeamViewer app for WinRT, and you can access almost anything a full PC can (here on XDA, people have even ported x86 desktop apps and an x86 emulator). I generally carry the Surface + WP8 everywhere now-- phone for quick stuff and Surface for longer content.
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Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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U couldnt have data from ur clients on a cloud? Then u shouldnt use android
And if u want not to use Skydrive with Onenote u can also create Offline Word Documents and write down ur Meeting Information there.
And what exactly isnt working with One Note on PC and ur Phone?
But for what r u using dropbox? Isnt that a cloud too?
After u press a Letter in the Apps Menu the Alphabet is show so u can select the Letter u want ur App starts with.
For the Topbar u can always touch on the Clock to get the Whole Topbar shown with all Informations.
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You can be sure not a troll nor stupid. I use mobile phones from the beginning and can very well distinguish pros and cons. We can and do build out own servers and use the phone as a business tool. Just see what MS did with the BT stack, incomplete, you cannot connect a simple keyboard which is needed when taking notes in conferences, Using the cloud for confidential information is a nono, DropBox does not work with WP8.... Me or someone else calling stupid shows where your standard is.
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Androids bt stack is also incomplete. Most of the other things you mention are there. If its trully business usage you want then buy a WM device, not even your beloved android comes close to wm. The only thing wm doesn't do better is games and video playback and most of that is down to crap drivers from the oems
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Thanks for your answer but you should not imply like "not even your beloved android comes close to wm" never used it. You asked "And what exactly isnt working with One Note on PC and ur Phone?" On the PC I have in One Note a personal and office section. The office section can only be seen with Sky Drive.Why not having both section direct in the Phones One Note without Sky Drive. Any suggestion? I guess it is possible but do not know to get it done. It seems Logitech will bring a compatible Keyboard for the Ativ,
Calendar, I use Week View 8 what does the most I need, but you cannot change there appointments or to dos, you have to go through agenda.. We have Office 365 and have until today nit made a final decision.A replacement for Team Viewer not found except you run it through Internet Explorer.I will always listen and learn and keep things in an appropriate way.
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Thanks for your answer but you should not imply like "not even your beloved android comes close to wm" never used it. You asked "And what exactly isnt working with One Note on PC and ur Phone?" On the PC I have in One Note a personal and office section. The office section can only be seen with Sky Drive.Why not having both section direct in the Phones One Note without Sky Drive. Any suggestion? I guess it is possible but do not know to get it done. It seems Logitech will bring a compatible Keyboard for the Ativ,
Calendar, I use Week View 8 what does the most I need, but you cannot change there appointments or to dos, you have to go through agenda.. We have Office 365 and have until today nit made a final decision.A replacement for Team Viewer not found except you run it through Internet Explorer.I will always listen and learn and keep things in an appropriate way.
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I like vnc better then teamviewer personally. Ive never had as problem with one note or outlook syncing. I also enjoy the android os on my tablet. Perhaps that might be a solution for you. I use my Aviv s to provide internet to my android tablet.
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Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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If there is one thing that WP does infinitely better than Android, that is protecting your privacy.
Hell, on android you can even get spyware and trojan downloaded from the marketplace, and you will never even know it. If you want privacy, go for WP and stick with it.
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If there is one thing that WP does infinitely better than Android, that is protecting your privacy.
Hell, on android you can even get spyware and trojan downloaded from the marketplace, and you will never even know it. If you want privacy, go for WP and stick with it.
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LOL.......it seems that 95% of WP apps require access to your location, and they send this also to Microsoft. Having access to my location is fine, as long as it makes sense.
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LOL.......it seems that 95% of WP apps require access to your location, and they send this also to Microsoft. Having access to my location is fine, as long as it makes sense.
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cause yeh LOL google maps location process doesn't run like 100% if time in the background on ANY android phone.
While looking for something completely different, I stumbled across this and thought some people might find it interesting:
Turn an old eReader into an Information Screen (Nook STR) – Terence Eden’s Blog
shkspr.mobi
I wouldn't fixed NST to a wall and think that I have read here about app used here to do that job. Either someone is gonna fix TLS issue or maybe if we assume using NST as display it could be possible to use home Wi-Fi router or mobile phone as secure server or part of VPN that will negotiate TLS issue for NST. I always doubted slightly that NST can offer full internet browser experience but something in line of htttp web grab in reader mode might be good enough for some application. News (RSS), weather and I believe that maybe EPG TV guide are not impossible to accomplish. Only question about this remains will NST embedded HTML browser will be good for the job of showing the grab from web pages or is Opera in reader mode better for such job. Time to look up for a good web grabber...
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I wouldn't fixed NST to a wall and think that I have read here about app used here to do that job. Either someone is gonna fix TLS issue or maybe if we assume using NST as display it could be possible to use home Wi-Fi router or mobile phone as secure server or part of VPN that will negotiate TLS issue for NST. I always doubted slightly that NST can offer full internet browser experience but something in line of htttp web grab in reader mode might be good enough for some application. News (RSS), weather and I believe that maybe EPG TV guide are not impossible to accomplish. Only question about this remains will NST embedded HTML browser will be good for the job of showing the grab from web pages or is Opera in reader mode better for such job. Time to look up for a good web grabber...
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Curl can often bypass SSL checks and grab web content. It runs on the NST. I've used it in a few of my apps. Whether the data it gets can be used by the app the blogger mentions is something else.
@nmyshkin that is nice idea! And seems exactly in line of what I wrote. I do not know is curl accessible from Android layer. I pondered the same thought more in line of trying to use port of Lynx to Android I have seen someone did although who knows is that possible to do on this version of Android?
I've written a status app (that I never use).
It polls two different servers for JSON info and displays it using regular Android graphics stuff.
It uses Retrofit for polling.
And one more! (although this one uses a Sony PRS-T1)
Reusing my ebook reader – Fluffyelephant
Hmm, you got me thinking about this stuff.
There's the whole let the Nook poll some data service and display it on a web browser sort of thing.
I don't really need or want that.
I was thinking more of like as a status output device for a headless Raspberry Pi.
No, not as a terminal, more like status for a solar/home/whatever system.
The Nook doesn't poll anything, it just sits there waiting for text or graphics.
But here's the part I like, you don't use any WiFi.
You just plug your Nook into the Raspberry Pi.
Of course it has adb.
You can get adb for Raspberry Pi: sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb
Now you can set up port forwarding:
Code:
[email protected]:~ $ adb forward tcp:6666 tcp:6666
Then all you need is something on the RPi to connect to port 6666 and spit out stuff.
On the Nook you need an app to serve port 6666 and do display stuff.
I've already made a clock as proof of concept and it works fine.
You could just use text fields or compose a whole graphic frame on the RPi and send that over.
Heck, if you send whole frames you wouldn't even need to run the Android subsytem.
I could probably get that working on a Kobo.
A very sophisticated example follows.
It allows you to individually update separate fields.
These could be in tables with borders or labels or whatever.
Edit: Okay, a better screenshot.
You know, the thing I like about this is that the NST is the server.
It's a bit like running X11, but much more lightweight.
And if you want you can still run this over WiFi instead of ADB forwarding.
This electric sign app is really close to something I'm looking for. What I'd like to do is, instead of a screenshot of a URI, to take a screenshot of what I've got open in the device.
I'd like to use this with Google Calendar, and Opera Mini surprisingly seems to work with the HTML version. I think Opera Mini keeps the calendar updating with AJAX or something, so all I'd need an app like this to do would be to, when it's running, take a screenshot of what's on the screen right before sleeping and set that as wallpaper, then wake every X minutes, screencap what's there and go back to sleep with that as the new wallpaper. The end result should be an always-on, low power Google Calendar.
EDIT: For anyone looking later, I was wrong. Opera Mini does not keep updating Google Calendar, you have to refresh it manually, which makes this slightly more complicated...
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This electric sign app is really close to something I'm looking for. What I'd like to do is, instead of a screenshot of a URI, to take a screenshot of what I've got open in the device.
I'd like to use this with Google Calendar, and Opera Mini surprisingly seems to work with the HTML version. I think Opera Mini keeps the calendar updating with AJAX or something, so all I'd need an app like this to do would be to, when it's running, take a screenshot of what's on the screen right before sleeping and set that as wallpaper, then wake every X minutes, screencap what's there and go back to sleep with that as the new wallpaper. The end result should be an always-on, low power Google Calendar.
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Somewhere on the site there is a discussion of a setup that copies the current screen into a screensaver folder so that, for example, a map remains visible when the device sleeps. Search for it.
Edit: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/q-fridge-calendar.3057759/#post-59527882
Edit: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...uestion-o-noob-friendly.2941262/post-57216860
Eh, I'm not fond of browser-based anything,
For plain HTML stuff you could throw something together with Webkit instead.
For the adventurous you could use the Google Calendar API
Renate said:
Eh, I'm not fond of browser-based anything,
For plain HTML stuff you could throw something together with Webkit instead.
For the adventurous you could use the Google Calendar API
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I tend to agree with you. As I already wrote above something akin to Pocket/ReadItLater and similar might be accomplished using simple web grab I presume and offline HTML browser. I have thought that it looks odd that beside "hidden" (and sadly for us practically unusable) browser NST have another HTML viewer. Reason for that might be it was intended to be used for B&N "browsing" through their shop that they periodically download to NST or maybe for presentation of e-book material of older type that was for all intents and purposes just web archived HTML page or perhaps for viewing magazines purchased through B&N.
In essence even epub use elements of CSS/HTML but that is another story. Maybe it could be possible to make some poor man Pocket like offline browser if we somehow find the way to cobble together parts of some RSS, bookmarks syncing, e-mail listing, forum/blog viewer and approach that me or nmyshkin proposed here. In my opinion hardest part if some web grab is possible would be to render it in usable form for this device. That mean turning of ads, flash/video, loading pictures only on demand (or better in on/off way) and show only text information. Now what "browser" is suitable for this is yet to determine. I know that very old Opera could turn off animation an pictures but as I remember it did that in such way that it didn't download them at all to save bandwidth. Maybe it could be somehow set to load web archives in such manner? Think about it as giving an command that some web page be "printed as epub". It might be to large task to accomplish. Pocket worked if I remember right in such way that selected page was sent to dedicated server which did the trimming part for user and allowing him/her to download that content on other device to be read later on. Here I think that if we could sync for example one of bookmark folders from a computer with NST and achieve web grab of those links in usable form we might have something. It is a matter for the debate isn't Opera mobile and style management already wrote on here in forum same or even better. Problem would be that page reformat/rendering would be tasked to NST itself and I am not sure if it is up to the task or am I capable to cobble such thing alone for that matter. Something flashed in my mind didn't Calibre had some news reader? If it does then I am inventing the wheel here. Still it would be nice to be able to have some even limited ability to open a link to a news story from RSS feed or a forum/blog we follow or e-mail listing etc.
For Calendar I hope that some kind of dedicated app combining Calendar, planner and to do list can be found to already exist for this device.
Did anyone inspected this option? https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-text-only-new-sites/ It might be interesting
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Did anyone inspected this option? https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-text-only-new-sites/ It might be interesting
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Thanks for these! The ersatz Google News is amazing in that even the external links are text-only! It makes my Google News app obsolete! Great with Opera Mini. Many, many things to look at there
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Thanks for these! The ersatz Google News is amazing in that even the external links are text-only! It makes my Google News app obsolete! Great with Opera Mini. Many, many things to look at there
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I am glad that I have contributed with something useful. As have already guessed from mine posts in this thread I have contemplated heavily about what could be more useful for NST some text-only browser akin to old trusty Lynx or some rewrite/redefinition of working Opera. One thing lead to another and at first I thought to maybe open and disclosed source for firefox readability extension/addon ported for working version of Opera somehow is a way to go but as I always check all aspects of mine quirky ideas I stumbled upon this. It is poor man solution but as I remembered that you follow NPR and they have text mode only site felt obliged to mention it here.
In line with nmyshkin's idea of using curl if some information display akin to the one linked in the first post is needed does something like cron from Linux can be run on NST?
"Print as epub" exist as web form. Here is the result of that one. https://dotepub.com/ I tried to use online form there and results were mediocre but as I understand they also offer their API to developers etc. That I presume might draw attention from someone on xda.
In defense of the intended idea for using NST as info screen arguably touch technology it uses is best for those screens. Mine guess is that its deemed as such because it is most easily scalable from the currently available techniques. This also raise the question why B&N did not already made readers of much larger format like A4 paper size screen. Is the display cost really that high and prohibitive? On the other news rumors have spread that they have partnered with Lenovo not only for the new generation of tablets but also for new e-readers. Has anyone find some leek about possible specifications?
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... rumors have spread ...
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Say, what? After my buying a Poke3?
Edit: See https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/no...ovo-barnes-noble/1139012795?ean=9780594080503
1200 x 800 for a 10" = 144 DPI, not drop dead impressive.
I agree. Cheap bastards! I can't say is that 149DPI good for LCD screen but is sub par for e-reader. They obviously targeted minimum resolution comparable to low resolution printing and hope to get away with it. Considered that I expressed criticism to level of development of current color e-ink technology being bellow resolution of NST by about 60% you can bet I find this to little question is does it comes to late for B&N. Still I am more interested about e-ink display device that rumor say is also planned but nothing is revealed so far.
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Say, what? After my buying a Poke3?
Edit: See https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/no...ovo-barnes-noble/1139012795?ean=9780594080503
1200 x 800 for a 10" = 144 DPI, not drop dead impressive
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Nothing to report that is mine work now still in the spirit of this thread I want to post few links with things people did with e-ink screens that might be done with NST also.
1. Raspberry Pi powered news scrapper - something Renate might like as she as I understood work on something similar
https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/ksgomp
2. Weather display that I believe was made using software already mentioned somewhere on forum
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/lcyos9
3. Something completely different! Device made as platform to enable development many things e-ink made. Link shows RSS implementation.
4. In the old days when e-readers were unobtainable on my location I was in desperation contemplating the idea to convert available photo frames to a e-reader. This is as you guess the other way around.
https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/liadda
5. Someone developed site for games for e-ink screen as I understood browser only
https://e-ink.club/index.php There is in my opinion plenty of room for some sort of games on e-ink and this is not comprehensive list but it is nice someone started a dedicated page/project for that.