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Hello all,
I experience the following problem with my Tytn (gory details about versions and so avail upon request): With age the device got slower and slower to the point that now e.g. ActiveSync times out if the device was not soft-reseted for a long time.
Still, even after a soft-reset the device feels sluggish and unresponsive -- compared to what it used to be.
Granted, it has a boatload of software installed but the "slowness" got worse w/o adding new softw.
IIRC from the old PPC days the old WinCE used to suffer heavily from memory leaks, and the only way to recover from that was to hard-reset the device.
My question is:
- Did anyone else have this experience ? Is it a known problem ?
- Is it actually a appl problem and not WM5 related ?
- Does a hard-reset and restoring from backups solve the problem ? Or do I neeed to hard-reset and install the software all over again from scratch ?
TIA,
Florian
P.S. Sorry I don't have some "hard facts" (mem usage/whatnot), so far it is just an empirical observation
When I originally got my device I tried installing a load of software and this seemed to eventually break the device. It does start to perform slower the more you mess with it. I upgraded the firmware and was careful about what I installed and the device works great now.
If you performed a hard reset and re-installed your applications, you would notice an increase in speed. I recommend the latest firmware also.
i have just replied to similar comments that may help here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291882
rather than retyping. the bare device works really really really good, so it may relate to your apps. install standard released apps, with care, and do backups regularly to restore if necessary.
also, i have found in the past that large volumes of contacts and large amounts of diary syncs does slow all devices down. one poster said he had over 1000 contacts and wanted to know why phone calls were slow to start (caller id and searching duh...)
so watch what you install, and only install what you really need
install anything that is needed on bootup into memory
hide icons point to your sd card
dont have sd card readers on the today screen
follow the registry hacks and use them
dont install today screen stuff to sd card
accept that the sd card may be disabled or fail on occasion, thus you dont want your device functionality tied to it otherwise card fails, device fails
manage your synchronisation of data
there is soooo much more. make sure you are on the latest released rom for your device. ensure your sd card does have fast read and write ability...
read wiki, do some research. all else fails, HARD RESET and see if it runs at normal or good speed. then test each and use each app carefully, using a backup app to restore as you need to.
this is m$, and i equate wm5 to windows 95, we are a long way from xp status, so play nice, be gentle, and manage the apps you install, they way you install them, and the data u need.
Background:
The devs have had some major breakthroughs in getting Android ported over to our HD2s lately. Just a bit ago, they finally got Bluetooth working and I decided it was time to give it a shot. I was pleasantly surprised at the stability of the version I ran and have actually been using it as my primary ROM for five days as of this writing.
My biggest problem was in wading through the myriad of techno-speak and complaints piled on top of vague references to a non-existent thread over on the Leo forums. However, once I got things figured out, I was good to go and haven't looked back!
Please see post 2 for some tips and tricks and "Don't do's" that I learned along the way.
You absolutely MUST HAVE data access to install Android. If you have WiFi, that might work, but if you may be able to talk a friend with a data account to lend you their SIM card for a few minutes
For the curious, I did initially install Android on my 16gb C2 microSD card that came with the phone. See post 2 for why I am no longer doing so
Read "Steps" for the fast and easy version, "Details" if you're a bit nervous or want to see how neurotic I can be with explanations.
And so, without further ado, here is the simple method for locating, download, installing and running Android on your HD2!
Steps:
I recommend finding a nice, stable ROM and flashing it fresh after a Task29 before moving forward. Be sure to hard reset (or use Clear Memory under Settings) and then soft reset your phone to ensure the ROM is stabilized.
If you are using a stock radio you may have issues, the radio I am using is: 2.10.50.26.
Once your phone is up and running, go to Settings Tab->Sound & Display: Single Volume On (100%), Pocket Mode On, then click Backlight: Ensure "Automatically adjust backlight" is NOT checked, adjust your screen brightness to optimal levels, then un-check the other four boxes.
Exit Settings and make a call using the Speaker Phone, then turn the Speaker Volume to 100%.
Visit GameSquare by clicking this link and scroll to the bottom of that page, look for the "Download" link at the bottom. Save the file (currently it is named "HD2Froyo_V2.1.7z") to your computer.
At this point, it would be a brilliant idea to backup the contents of your microSD card and reformat it.
Once your microSD card is ready, place the file you downloaded from GameSquare on the root of the card ("root" means don't put it in any folders you might have on the card) and extract the contents.
If you removed the card to reformat or unzip the file, put it back in the phone. It is a good idea to go ahead and soft reset the phone at this point, just in case some of the hardware has developed some issues while you were working.
Open File Explorer and navigate to Storage Card->Android, then click on CLRCAD.exe (it won't respond, but then it's not supposed to, click it anyway), then click haret.exe. Always run CLRCAD.exe before haret.exe to ensure you can actually hear phone calls
You phone should now show the HTC Penguin and a ton of text. The phone may hang a few times, but it's fine, just let it run.
Once Android has booted, follow the customization prompts. It may seem to take forever to boot, but let it go.
Once Android has completely booted and you can see the Home Screen, wait for the icon on the top left (sd card scan) to disappear and then soft reset and reboot Android. If you have run Android or used Google Backup in the past, wait for the sync icon to disappear before soft resetting the phone.
You should now be able to fully load Android and make calls, texts, data connections etc. Enjoy!
Details:
Myself, I chose to ignore the google location, facebook - twitter - youtube logins and weather; this is because I never intend to actually use the Windows Mobile ROM anyway
You may or may not have luck with a different radio, but I know people running stock are complaining and looking for replacements. I will not explain where to find or how to flash radios in this thread, use the search button above to find one that will.
My screen brightness is set to 50%, which is optimal for me. Un-checking the boxes will prevent your phone from darkening the screen while Android is running!
This seemed to help when I had issues with a very quiet speaker and ringtones running Android.
I will not link directly to the build because (1) it's not my site or work and (2) there are important messages on that page that DarkStone1337 wanted everyone to read. For your edification, the original thread: [BUILD] [18.08.2010] [darkstone HD2Froyo V2.1] [kernel: darkstone 2.6.32.9 #36]
I haven't used a stock ROM in forever, but all of the customs I have run had a "Format SD Card" app in the Start->Tools folder. If you use your PC to format it, be sure to use Fat with a 32 cluster (or allocation) size. Formatting your card will help to eliminate issues that some have been having (I had the same issues and reformatted later). I found that formatting the card via Windows allows for a less-buggy system.
This will create a new directory named Android and a small text file. You can read the "readme.txt" file if you want, but don't move anything around. Unlike the original builds, HaRET is located in the Android folder and should stay there.
If I get a call, text or email on my phone before I get Android booted, I go ahead and soft-reset again. It may be a pain in the butt, but it helps to narrow down any issues you might have to just the Android build.
Android may reboot your phone before you see any prompts, and if so just go back and run CLRCAD.exe and then haret.exe as before.
If you have any issues, reformat the card and start over. Here is where you need that initial data (internet) access. Android does not require you to always have internet, but if you reset or re-install it, you will always need it at this point.
You can turn off the phone by holding the "End Call" button (that's the red one ) and choosing "Power Off" from the popup menu.
Of course, you don't have to enjoy Android, that's just a suggestion
This tutorial is subject to updates and bug fixes in the future, but no promises
Be sure to read Post 2 for lessons I learned along the way!
Tips and Tricks
Format and Content of this post may change, depending on how I feel and what I learn along the way (respectively).
SD Card Care:
I would recommend you to always reformat your microSD card before installing or re-installing Android on it. This is the same as doing a Task 29 on your phone before installing a new ROM.
I don't know much about Android, but I've been using Linux on my personal computers at home for over 10 years. Android seems to continually read and write data to the SD card while the system is running. If it is in "write" mode and you change something on the card or reset the phone, it can damage your SD card. So far, I have managed to get through this by reformatting my card, but you can easily wipe the card by removing the battery or hitting the reset button instead of using "Power Off" via the Android menu.
Never attach your phone to the PC and activate "Turn on USB storage". When I say, "Never", I really mean, "If you ever, ever do this, your children will despise you." Writing to the card while Android is in "write" mode will cause data that is being written by Android to be misplaced and this is a very bad thing.
Do not use the "transfer to sd card" option that some of the apps may offer. For the same reason as the last tip, it will really screw your card up.
Android was not meant to run on external card like your microSD card. Some geniuses here on xda have managed to trick it into doing so, but it will never be safe. Some day the devs may actually manage to hack into the phone's NAND memory and then we can have real Android ROMs running without an SD card, but until then we have to use this system. You do risk ruining your card, but I feel that it is worth the risk
Stability:
Just after running HaRET, hit the back arrow key. This will cause your buttons to light up momentarily. I'm not sure exactly why, but this seems to help the battery drain issue a lot.
The current crop of Froyo (Android 2.2) builds all seem to cause issues with our phone's hardware. Specifically, the screen is often unresponsive, sometimes never waking up after being turned off and necessitating a hard reset or battery pull.
Bluetooth works, but you may have to cycle the service by hitting "Bluetooth" in a call twice, once to turn it off and then again to turn it back on. I have had to do this several times, particularly after a hard reset.
I find that a task killer is particularly helpful. I found a free one called "Advanced Task Killer Free" in the market and it works just fine for my needs. When I need to turn off the screen, I run the killer and wait a few seconds before hitting the End Call button. Using this method, I have reduced the non-responsive screen issues somewhat.
Another trick I have learned is to turn off the lock screen. Even the simple slider seemed to cause issues, so I found "No Lock", a free app in the market that, when activated, will turn off the lock screen. If you keep your phone in your pocket (bad idea, you're gonna scratch or break it!), this is not a solution you will be able to tolerate after a few butt-dials.
Some people over on the Leo forums report that turning off the Live Wallpaper helped with the non-responsive screen issues. I haven't really tried this because I really, really like the wallpaper interaction. Of course, since my issues haven't totally gone away, I gave that a shot, but it didn't seem to help.
I switched ROMs, trying to find a WinMo ROM that was lighter but still up-to-date and every call I made with the phone thereafter caused the "robot voice" (some call it the "android voice"). I am now flashing a new ROM that I found on the T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 ROM Development forum that said "Android" in the title. The chef claims it is "Android Safe" and so I've flashed it, but left the Android installation alone. The "robot voice" is definitely gone, so that's awesome. Not sure what else may have improved, but at least I can make phone calls
I've noticed a trend over on the Leo forums to shy away from "Best WinMo ROM for Hosting Android". Not sure why this is, but I will carry that trend on until I am better informed. That being said, I have flashed three different ROMs to my phone and only one has actually produced a stabilizing effect on my Android. You can find it in the T-Mobile USD HTC HD2 ROM Development forum, just search for "Android"
Apps:
Having trouble getting your apps to install? Try going into Settings - SD Card and "Unmount" your card and then try the install again. This worked for me when installing Angry Birds and Pocket Legends (two very awesome games).
"No Lock": This app disables the default sliding-lock screen. I had some issues early on with the screen locking up as I tried to turn it on. This has helped tremendously.
"Advanced Task Killer": Although cnet says this is rarely needed, they are not running Android from the SD card as we are You will need some sort of task killer because your phone can't handle the RAM drain every day activity brings.
"SlideIT Keyboard": Replacement for Swype. I've used Swype for so long that I consider this app a poor replacement, though you might disagree. It's better than nothing!
More to come!
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Coming Soon!
This is just a placeholder while I get the real deal written. Please be patient, I have a 2yo to care for and my keyboard time is hard to justify these days.
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Snarksneeze said:
Reserved.
Will put some lessons I learned in here later.
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This just raises the question of why didn't you just wait until you had the tutorial written before creating this thread?
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This just raises the question of why didn't you just wait until you had the tutorial written before creating this thread?
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Sorry, I accidentally submitted my first post instead of previewing it. Had to work fast before I looked like a complete idiot. Guess I wasn't fast enough, eh?
Thank you for this post, Ive been wanting to do this for a while but the other threads were very confusing to me...
sound dll of 2.13.xxx.xx problem
hi i have the tmous rom 2.13.xxx.xx when i run android i have the robotic voice, i understand that the sound dll is different than the 2.10.xxx.xx and this is the couse.
is there any solution??
Did you ever try android on a stock rom? will any of these android set ups work in stock tmous rom?
אםזגםנש said:
hi i have the tmous rom 2.13.xxx.xx when i run android i have the robotic voice, i understand that the sound dll is different than the 2.10.xxx.xx and this is the couse.
is there any solution??
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I actually had a custom ROM installed on my HD2 that caused the "robot voice". This ROM: {ROM}13Sep Omega WM6.5.x24634 Base3.04 manila2018#XT+Dinik+GTX+MaxSense+Black#Android is the only one I've been able to get a decent run of Android on.
We really, really need more than one option when it comes to ROMs that give Android good support, so if anyone else knows of one, this is a good thread to link it to.
szfjcr said:
Did you ever try android on a stock rom? will any of these android set ups work in stock tmous rom?
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I tried two different stocks: The one my phone came with way back in June and the new one at tmobile.com/wm_update. I was able to make calls, but the other person couldn't hear me.
I would recommend the ROM I linked to in the post just before this one; it's working great for me so far!
gonna try it thanks
for some reason i cant get it to reboot into android, it keeps going back to the stock windows rom, anyone know how to solve this? thanks in advance
dementievafan said:
for some reason i cant get it to reboot into android, it keeps going back to the stock windows rom, anyone know how to solve this? thanks in advance
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You might want to check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723200
hmm so that is the only way to do it currently? what is the logic behind not being able to put android directly on the phone's memory?
thanks again
I'm one of the lucky ones!
So far at least... I have been running Darkstone Froyo/Sense for approximately six hours with zero issues beyond it taking a bit to get used to Android again, which is not a complaint at all.
As I stated, I used Darkstone Froyo with Sense, latest release.
2.11 Radio
I did not have to revert my rom because I was able to use HSPL3 Successfully.
I have read several threads/posts but this was the most helpful, although I could not have completed this task without some other [TUT] threads.
Side note: I stated I have not had any issues, I wanted to mention that I had read some posts stating the 2.11 Radio had caused heat issues. With heavy downloading of apps, chatting, texting, and browsing constantly for the last six hours (as I was a passenger on a long drive right after I completed the install) I never noticed the phone getting hot, and I made a point to watch for this.
Again, thank you.
dementievafan said:
hmm so that is the only way to do it currently? what is the logic behind not being able to put android directly on the phone's memory?
thanks again
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Apologies to everyone for not responding to this thread while on vacation in Arkansas.
In order to install Android on the HD2 as a regular ROM we would need access to the NAND processor, which we do not have at this time. We may never be able to get Android to flash that way. In the meantime, we can run it via Linux by using HaRET (Hardware Reverse-Engineering Tool). As far as I can tell, this is the API version of Froyo, the one that can be run via an emulator and downloaded from Google. So it's not really the phone version of Android, but from a user's standpoint, there is no difference.
electshrimp said:
So far at least... I have been running Darkstone Froyo/Sense for approximately six hours with zero issues beyond it taking a bit to get used to Android again, which is not a complaint at all.
As I stated, I used Darkstone Froyo with Sense, latest release.
2.11 Radio
I did not have to revert my rom because I was able to use HSPL3 Successfully.
I have read several threads/posts but this was the most helpful, although I could not have completed this task without some other [TUT] threads.
Side note: I stated I have not had any issues, I wanted to mention that I had read some posts stating the 2.11 Radio had caused heat issues. With heavy downloading of apps, chatting, texting, and browsing constantly for the last six hours (as I was a passenger on a long drive right after I completed the install) I never noticed the phone getting hot, and I made a point to watch for this.
Again, thank you.
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Thanks for your feedback
You mentioned that you could not have completed the install without other tutorials. Would you mind linking to them or telling me what I am missing?
To write this, I reformatted my SD card and installed a fresh ROM, then detailed each step I made along the way. I have looked back but can't see anything that I might have missed.
I see that you are running Froyo Sense. I linked to the regular Froyo, since it was the version that ran without any issues for me. Would this TUT be better if I were to link to the other builds as well?
Thanks for this [TUT]! I have this installed with Omega v13 and Radio 2.12.50.02_02. Works beautifully.
I also added Dual Boot option with Jmz Android Dual-Boot.cab as suggested by you in an earlier post. Very sweet.
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Thanks for this [TUT]! I have this installed with Omega v13 and Radio 2.12.50.02_02. Works beautifully.
I also added Dual Boot option with Jmz Android Dual-Boot.cab as suggested by you in an earlier post. Very sweet.
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Glad things worked out for you!
Keep us informed of any issues, tips or tricks you stumble upon as you enjoy your new Android
i have a few questions
im new to HD2, i want to run android on tmous unlocked hd2, i have stock rom no hspl, my spl version is 2.10.8 or something like that ... so how can i do it. Help appriciated
rukhi said:
i have a few questions
im new to HD2, i want to run android on tmous unlocked hd2, i have stock rom no hspl, my spl version is 2.10.8 or something like that ... so how can i do it. Help appriciated
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Stock simply doesn't work for Android. You can boot up, but can't make calls or hear external sound.
In order to get Android running, you will have to (1)Flash HSPL and (2)Flash an Android-friendly ROM.
I am far from being an expert on Android or Windows Mobile, so there may be something that I don't know about. If you are dead set on keeping stock, you might contact one of the Android-friendly chefs and ask them what changes they made to their versions.
Don't forget: Flashing your T-Mobile HD2 is dangerous. Never flash a ROM unless you found it here: T-Mobile USA HD2 ROM Development.
The original (Leo) HD2 is incompatible with the T-Mobile version and it is easy to get confused. Some websites aren't even bothering to mention the incompatibility and lot of folks are bricking their phones as a result.
While WP7 appears to be a major upgrade for HD2 from the entertainment point of view (720p recording alone is worth the trouble), for the professional user it's a step back, unfortunately, so I am not in a hurry to give up Windows Mobile It has nothing to do with the amazing work done by DFT and others, but with WP7 itself.
Copy and paste is not used that often, but at times could be vital for heavy e-mail and Office users. But at least Microsoft is working on that. Much more important is the lack of internet tethering support - a hugely underestimated feature. With original HD2 and an app like Wi-Fi Router I have a hotspot with me anywhere at any time, but with WP7 Microsoft is totally against it, possibly under pressure from the carriers.
Lack of file manager that we are used to seeing is an annoyance, but not a game changer. I am also not convinced the WP7 keyboard is nearly as good as the original HD2 one, and the apparent lack of foreign language keyboard support is also a concern.
Frankly, I am surprised not many people raise these issues, with Windows Mobile being, in my opinion, the best platform for business user, giving us a PC-like experience. But the trend appears to be dumbing down the smartphones (meaning heavy bias towards entertainment) to get the all-important market share. My hope is that Microsoft develops a special business-user version of WP7with all those issues covered.
In the meantime I would greatly appreciate an effort by developers to solve at least one of these problems - INTERNET TETHERING, either by Wi-Fi or USB. The solutions I've seen so far don't appear to be workable, but we are grateful for all your efforts.
And, finally, one question that is probably easy to answer. Is it possible, after trying out WP7 on HD2, to go back to the original ROM (T-Mobile USA)? If yes, can someone please point me to the clear directions on that?
Thank you!
how many people use phone? how many business man use phone? how many business man use phone really as a PDA? you get the point?
Don't forget, it's M$...
I'm sure I saw tethering on a MS to do list and get the impression it's less about being unwilling to do it an more about being unable, for now.
File Manager - there is one, TouchXplorer. More relevant is the difficulty in getting files on there - it can be done, but it's a faff.
I wouldn't argue that WP7 is more aimed at those who feel the need to share every sentient thought with 'friends' they don't even know on FacePage or Twaddle, but the Office tools are actually very good and with SkyDrive integration there are potentially some very useful ways of working.
The keyboard? Don'y like it especially but it's not much worse than the original. Having a Swype variant would be far better.
One thing not mentioned is the fact that WP7 is more stable and performs better than WM6.5.5.
There are a bunch of threads around on backing out WP7, a search should find something quite quickly but it's pretty straightforward.
Thanks a lot, Gustopher, for a detailed response! Good points.
bussinesmen always carry a notebook with them for heavy documents editing.
bussinesmen should have a corporate laptop with corporate 3g/umts dongle.
Real bussinesmen should have an assistent to do all their work.
However, the email client on WP7 is the best of all other platforms. Real full support for multiple folder syncing. Reading email is like reading a letter on a paper because of the clean and neat look. Just too bad it doesn't shows HTML.
There is always room for improvement and it'll get all the features eventually.
Actually most probs including Tethering can be solved with hacks or workarounds. For me the biggest annoyance is that mail forwarding was left out for some unknown reason. I forward a lot of mails from my phone and this really sucks big time
Also Office Mobile is less functional than it used to be on WM 6.5. Where is find and replace
To be candid i love the keyboard and the smoothness of the system but everything else is half done. How i wish i could just combine the features of different os. If i could then I'll combine the functionality of winsmob 6.5 with the keyboard and smoothness of wp7 and then take the apps from android. Thats would be the almost perfect os of all times. But hey i guess i'm just a dreamer.
Thanks for your responses. Hyellow, nowadays when they say "business user" (or "business traveler", etc), in America, they don't actually mean important businessmen, just people who use something for work - I guess I should've been more specific. Sometimes I carry a notebook, sometimes not, and I often need to receive and/or send emails with attached Word documents at different times of day and night. And I didn't even need a dongle with a great Wi-Fi sharing tool that I could also use to share internet with others.
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Actually most probs including Tethering can be solved with hacks or workarounds. For me the biggest annoyance is that mail forwarding was left out for some unknown reason. I forward a lot of mails from my phone and this really sucks big time
Also Office Mobile is less functional than it used to be on WM 6.5. Where is find and replace
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You can forward mails... Just tap on reply, and it will ask if you want to reply or just forward...
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And, finally, one question that is probably easy to answer. Is it possible, after trying out WP7 on HD2, to go back to the original ROM (T-Mobile USA)? If yes, can someone please point me to the clear directions on that?
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It's actually mentioned in the first post of the LEO70 ROM thread. Basically, to return to WM6.5, you just flash a ROM as you would normally do.
If you want to return to a TMOUS stock ROM, this would be how:
1) Get the stock ROM you want to flash
2) Shut down your HD2
3) Switch on your HD2 while holding the volume down key to enter bootloader
4) [Optional] Clean up NAND using task29
5) Flash your stock ROM, 2 options:
a) To remove HSPL, flash from MicroSD card
b) To keep HSPL, flash over USB using ROM Update Utility (RUU)
If you choose to remove HSPL, be careful to use an original ROM for your region/provider.
Barmalei said:
While WP7 appears to be a major upgrade ... the clear directions on that?
Thank you!
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I second this. Thats why im running android gingerbread. It is not perfect, but close. The main thing i am missing in andriod is a good office package. In wp7 it mainly designed for multimedia purpose..
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You can forward mails... Just tap on reply, and it will ask if you want to reply or just forward...
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OMG You really saved my day Never thought that forwarding will be bundled with reply
Thanks a lot for detailed instructions, meptik! I haven't flashed a ROM for a long time, so this is extremely helpful.
I also wonder if anyone knows an answer to this question:
If I take a stock U.S. T-Mobile-locked HD2 and run WP7 on it, does the phone become UNLOCKED so it can be used on any GSM carrier, including major European networks?
Solution for problems with SD cards and/or random reboots
Many people are experiencing problems with SD cards and/or random reboots, and I think I solved mine (I am rather a newbie), so here is my report.
Few days ago I installed WP7 (thanks a lot, DFT guys) on my U.S. T-mobile HD2 with its original 16 GB class 2 micro SD card, using radio 2.10.50.08.2.
Installation went very well, the phone worked very smoothly and very fast, except it started freezing and randomly rebooting. Hard resets didn't help. Then I removed SD card and reset the phone - it worked very well and fast and did not have any reboots.
I tried reformatting the SD card to Fat32 (using free software SDformatter - it fully clears the card after WP7 use and removes partitions, make sure you put Format Size Adjustment "ON" in Options) and reset the phone with the card. It did not help, the reboots were the same as before.
So I decided that the 16 GB card wasn't good for WP7 and bought a PNY 4 GB class 4 card for $10 at Staples. I reset the phone with this new card inside. At first everything worked very slowly, but at least the reboots completely disappeared. In few hours everything became fast, except for certain things, like it would take 15-30 seconds for the camera to reset after shooting a 1 min video.
Finally, I decided to try something else. I reflashed radio to 2.15.50.14 with the original 16 GB card (reformatted again), and everything seems to work very well -it's fast, and there has been no reboots so far in few hours. The battery also seems to drain with a normal pace.
Hey everyone second post here, I have been reading the forums non-stop for a while now but still have a couple questions I can not find an answer to so any help would be appreciated.
And just for reference its a MY4G 2.3.3 CM 7.0.3 Kernal 2.6.32.28 Full clean wipe, dalvik, cache etc before flashing.
1: Am/ FM radio requires Bluetooth to be active although i'm listening to it though the wired ear piece which is required anyway as its the antenna. Why is that needed as I find it an extra battery drain? It says it's for " Enabling Bluetooth for FM radio support" and I don't remember the stock sense radio requiring it? Also if you shut it off the radio shuts off?
2: Am/FM while the radio is active if I receive a phone call, then hang up and go back to radio it does not work. Even with a force close the radio will come on but there will be no sound via speak or ear piece unless I do a reset. Is it possible to find and use the stock radio? If I search for radio on these forums to find the apk all I find is the other types of radios that I don't want.
3: GPS, I finally was able to make the GPS work but WIFI must be active. If WIFI is inactive It still locks a location but It is always off by about .5 miles. I tried all the fixes " delete the last 2 lines in gps. folder, gps status fix,etc but to me as a ship captain WIFI should not be need to make a GPS work correctly and it seems like a half ass fix. Solution?
4: GPS, since these phone's are able to receive gps are they able to output the GPS signal via usb cord to my navigation software on my laptop. I Know my handheld GPS is capable but I have not found a way to use the MT4G yet?
5: Call recorder, The stock call recorder will still record when I hit the sleep button. The one that came with CM7 does not and I have not found one on the market that will either. I cannot remember what the stock recorder was to do a search for it to install. Maybe someone can help?
6: Video Camera, Like the call recorder I need to keep the video recorder running if I hit the sleep button. The reason for this is it will keep recording and prevent anyone from accessing my phone through the password to delete the video saving evidence. I know I can use QIK so my question also applies to Qik, is there anyway to keep that app running too when the sleep button is pressed?
7: Police download devices, As a frequent traveler I often see customs, TSA and police plugging in scanners to download all your contacts, texts, pics,videos and data. If my phone is password protected can they still access my personal information. And if so is there software or a way to not allow them or "truly" encrypt the data? I assume their software works kind of like adb so maybe this is impossible?
8:Running services, Even If I try and force close Maps and WIFI calling they stay active. Why is this and is there a way to keep them from starting? Why do they keep running in the background as I find this another battery killer.
9: Security, What are your thoughts about the app Theft Aware. From what I have read it's seems pretty unbeatable if its installed on the rom and they claim it can withstand a factory reset. Unless your pretty technical I would think the average or even slightly advanced person could have a tough time removing this. Thought? And is there a better way to protect or encrypt whats in the memory or on the SD card on my phone?
10: Sim card lock. Although T-Mobile gave me an unlock code for my ATT sim card when I put the T-Mob one back in that code did not work and ended up locking the sim with a "the letter lock I forget what it was called" and had to call T-Mob to unlock it for me. When I travel I will need to often switch sims depending on the country I am in, will that 1st unlock code work on multiple sims or will I need a separate code for each one? It looks like the G-free method-true unlock will bypass this but I keep reading people getting PU errors and bricking their phones when switching ROMS after using this.
Sorry it's long and thanks if you can help answer and educate me on any of these questions.
1, 2, 3, 5, 6. Use stock, Royal Glacier, Royal Panache, Iced Glacier. CM7 is great, but it was made for a large collection of devices and is in a lot of ways hacked together. Considering this it's an amazing ROM, but for the kind of fine-tooth comb you are running through it you're better off with a ROM specifically designed for the glacier and more importantly the features you already find valuable in the stock ROM.
4. It has GPS, but I'm pretty sure your software is designed to work with GPS units. In other words, the software would need to write in support for phones, specifically the glacier.
7. Stop selling national secrets. j/k.
8. They are only a battery drain if they are active. They can sit in memory and never once draw power from your battery. In fact you are draining your battery and causing possible instability issues by force closing them and causing them to reload.
9. You're asking for complete access to your phone (root, s off) while having complete protection against intrusion. Tough order.
10. Gfree along with ENG SPL seems to work fine, it's those people who ran 90% of the race, hacked the hell out of their phone, then decided flashing a bootloader was too risky, that have had problems.
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1, 2, 3, 5, 6. Use stock, Royal Glacier, Royal Panache, Iced Glacier.
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darinmc, Thank you for your quick detailed response.
If I can pick your brain one more time, I see you mentioned Royal Glacier and Panache but not Ginger. Is there a reason why?
Also From what I have been reading a ROM is just the base and then you build up from there. Between the 4 ROM's what would be the major difference? Is it what is packaged with them? Or more or less speed vs battery life?
Since I am going to be installing one of these I assume and they suggest a factory reset - full wipe. Does a factory reset wipe the SD card?
I have seen posts recommending formating your SD card. My question is, I remember reading that you have to make sure the "install" file goes back on or else you mess yourself up. I searched my SD card and did not see this file. I assume when people buy or replace their SD card they are completely blank. If I formatted my SD card and did not care about any data, apps or anything and put it in blank could I mess something up?
Thank you for taking the time to educate me about this questions.
Following up with my new work S5 (thanks to the guys in my other thread who schooled me on Knox). Bottom line, we moved from Blackberry to the (our) neutered version of the S5. I am trying to replicate some of the simpler functionality of the BB with the new phone. Now, I have a rooted G3 as a personal phone, so I know how Android works pretty much, but the work phone is pretty locked down. We use Knox for work email and stuff, and the Play store is whitelisted to select apps. No free downloading. Here's what I am trying to do...
#1
My BB has a stupidly simple magnet in the case, so when I put the device in the holster, it went to vibrate-only mode. When I took it out, it would go back to the normal sound profile. No fuss, no user intervention needed. So, TecTiles is one of the apps I was able to get installed, and I ordered some. I can program them to set the phone to silent mode, but am I correct that I would still need to trigger the device to come OUT of silent mode? It's not automatic when it loses connection to the tile?
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I have the wireless charging back plate, and I have two issues. First, the "DU-DUNK" sound when the device gets fully charged, discharged a little, then starts charging again. I can't install Battery Doctor to silence it, I can't root to silence it. Can I write a tag with enough specificity to allow sounds for text and phone calls (I have an on call job) and keep the rest quiet?
The other nut kicker is the simple act of going in to clock mode (like a nite stand). Samsung removed the clock from Daydream (FFS), and I can't install any from Play (all I have tried are locked out). Any ideas on that one? Silly as it sounds, I used the BB as my alarm clock, especially while traveling. Timley looks GREAT. Can't install it.
Any help from the pros here would be appreciated.
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Following up with my new work S5 (thanks to the guys in my other thread who schooled me on Knox). Bottom line, we moved from Blackberry to the (our) neutered version of the S5. I am trying to replicate some of the simpler functionality of the BB with the new phone. Now, I have a rooted G3 as a personal phone, so I know how Android works pretty much, but the work phone is pretty locked down. We use Knox for work email and stuff, and the Play store is whitelisted to select apps. No free downloading. Here's what I am trying to do...
#1
My BB has a stupidly simple magnet in the case, so when I put the device in the holster, it went to vibrate-only mode. When I took it out, it would go back to the normal sound profile. No fuss, no user intervention needed. So, TecTiles is one of the apps I was able to get installed, and I ordered some. I can program them to set the phone to silent mode, but am I correct that I would still need to trigger the device to come OUT of silent mode? It's not automatic when it loses connection to the tile?
#2 (bigger)
I have the wireless charging back plate, and I have two issues. First, the "DU-DUNK" sound when the device gets fully charged, discharged a little, then starts charging again. I can't install Battery Doctor to silence it, I can't root to silence it. Can I write a tag with enough specificity to allow sounds for text and phone calls (I have an on call job) and keep the rest quiet?
The other nut kicker is the simple act of going in to clock mode (like a nite stand). Samsung removed the clock from Daydream (FFS), and I can't install any from Play (all I have tried are locked out). Any ideas on that one? Silly as it sounds, I used the BB as my alarm clock, especially while traveling. Timley looks GREAT. Can't install it.
Any help from the pros here would be appreciated.
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I didn't read your other thread, but do you have the ability to use outside Media sources? MicroSD or MicroUSB flash drives?
If so, perhaps consider locating .apk's that you want/need for your functions and side load them by running the .apk's from the external drive.
What I use... http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Andro...-fkmr0&keywords=sandisk+flash+drive+dual+mode
And I can't imagine them whitelisting the app to go with it, as it is a storage device, not something malicious.
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I didn't read your other thread, but do you have the ability to use outside Media sources? MicroSD or MicroUSB flash drives?
If so, perhaps consider locating .apk's that you want/need for your functions and side load them by running the .apk's from the external drive.
What I use... http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Andro...-fkmr0&keywords=sandisk+flash+drive+dual+mode
And I can't imagine them whitelisting the app to go with it, as it is a storage device, not something malicious.
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Thanks for responding. I'm sorry for sounding like a n00b, is this functionally any different from downloading an .apk on the SD card and installing it through a file explorer? As an aside, the way the restrictions work, the apps will install for a brief moment, and then they are uninstalled by the device. Is this method any different?
Thanks
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Thanks for responding. I'm sorry for sounding like a n00b, is this functionally any different from downloading an .apk on the SD card and installing it through a file explorer? As an aside, the way the restrictions work, the apps will install for a brief moment, and then they are uninstalled by the device. Is this method any different?
Thanks
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If you can manually put the .apk on the SD card, or microusb capable flash drive, it may work and stick. Not guaranteed as I have not tried on a phone like yours. GL
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If you can manually put the .apk on the SD card, or microusb capable flash drive, it may work and stick. Not guaranteed as I have not tried on a phone like yours. GL
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Yeah no dice, it works more like a removal than a block. It will install any app, then remove it when it checks it against the security policy. It's weird, some apps that seem just as innocuous (and are not on the list) install and work. Who knows. The whole thing feels very...unfinished. Like the whole Android enterprise thing isn't quite all put together yet. But I guess free it free, even if it's nerf'd free.