It's very difficult to take any good pictures without them being blurry either. Clearly Sprint didn't see this or brushed it under the rug?
Try putting some tape over the lens and see if that helps.
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Hahaha good one
I disagree.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/be_are_why_in_knee/sets/72157624087741651/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/evo4g/pool/
It's noisy because like all lower end digital camera's it automatically adjusts the ISO rating depending on how much light is involved. The less light the more noise.
Have u tried focusing b4 taking th picture?
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It's noisy because like all lower end digital camera's it automatically adjusts the ISO rating depending on how much light is involved. The less light the more noise.
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You can set the ISO in the options. Also, setting the brightness helps as well.
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It's very difficult to take any good pictures without them being blurry either. Clearly Sprint didn't see this or brushed it under the rug?
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Isn't the manufacturer HTC and not Sprint? Anywho, with a low end sensor, it's expected to be noisy. And by low end I'm just comparing to Canon's, Nikon's and Sony's sensors. I think we're just a little spoiled by those ultra compact cameras and forget what the phones are really for. But in low-light, you're always going to have a lot of noise (i'm assuming they're low-light shots). All day-time, well-lit shots of mine are actually really nice.
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Isn't the manufacturer HTC and not Sprint? Anywho, with a low end sensor, it's expected to be noisy. And by low end I'm just comparing to Canon's, Nikon's and Sony's sensors. I think we're just a little spoiled by those ultra compact cameras and forget what the phones are really for. But in low-light, you're always going to have a lot of noise (i'm assuming they're low-light shots). All day-time, well-lit shots of mine are actually really nice.
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BTW the Evo is using the same backlit sensor technology as the new iPhone. I think everyone is giving good advice in setting the ISO manually. Even my old 5mp dsl type camera performed poorly at higher ISO.
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Hahaha good one
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Hey Vandam500! Good to see another former iPhone (well, soon to be. Ordered an EVO last night) user from MR.
As for the EVO camera. I've seen some good pictures with it and some noisy ones. I think it's going to all depend on the light you take it in. It's a high megapixel camera with a small sensor.
It's not going to replace my DSLR or even my old PowerShot. It's a camera on a phone and I'm excited to use it.
Thats actually a produced sound comming from the speaker,you can turn it off in settings.
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BTW the Evo is using the same backlit sensor technology as the new iPhone. I think everyone is giving good advice in setting the ISO manually. Even my old 5mp dsl type camera performed poorly at higher ISO.
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Any link on that?
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Any link on that?
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Sure. http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/16437-evo-4g-camera-has-backside-illumination-also.html
Guy provides a link to the tear down where you can see what sensor is used and a link to the sensor manufacturers page with the info on it.
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Wrong kind of noise.
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Hey Vandam500! Good to see another former iPhone (well, soon to be. Ordered an EVO last night) user from MR.
As for the EVO camera. I've seen some good pictures with it and some noisy ones. I think it's going to all depend on the light you take it in. It's a high megapixel camera with a small sensor.
It's not going to replace my DSLR or even my old PowerShot. It's a camera on a phone and I'm excited to use it.
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Hey Vividboarder! Nice to see you on here . I am heading out to "pre-order" a Evo today and will have it tomorrow It only took me a hour after using my GF's Evo and also seeing the disappoint that the iPhone 4 is to make this decision
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Hey Vandam500! Good to see another former iPhone (well, soon to be. Ordered an EVO last night) user from MR.
As for the EVO camera. I've seen some good pictures with it and some noisy ones. I think it's going to all depend on the light you take it in. It's a high megapixel camera with a small sensor.
It's not going to replace my DSLR or even my old PowerShot. It's a camera on a phone and I'm excited to use it.
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Hey Vividboarder! Nice to see you on here . I am heading out to "pre-order" a Evo today and will have it tomorrow It only took me a hour after using my GF's Evo and also seeing the disappoint that the iPhone 4 is to make this decision
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Either of you post in the Digital Photography section of MR? I frequent that forum as much as this one.
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Either of you post in the Digital Photography section of MR? I frequent that forum as much as this one.
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I post frequently on MR but have never posted in the Photography section.
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Hold on, you are kidding right?
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Hold on, you are kidding right?
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Haha I'm going to laugh if we all thought by noisy he meant picture noise and not the actual shutter sound, or auto focus sound.
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Haha I'm going to laugh if we all thought by noisy he meant picture noise and not the actual shutter sound, or auto focus sound.
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That would be hilarious!!
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Either of you post in the Digital Photography section of MR? I frequent that forum as much as this one.
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No. Not yet anyway. I recently got a DSLR so I may start. I've been a very frequent poster in the iPhone Hacks forum.
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That would be hilarious!!
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I reread the original post again since I forgot the exact wording. Nope we were right the first time.
Btw going to the link you posted about the sensor showed me the specs I was looking for.
Apple was touting their 5mp being better cuz of pixel size.
Well each pixel in the iphone is 1.75 microns while the ones in the EVO are 1.4 microns. A typical point and shoot is around 2 microns. So cell phone cameras aren't that far off from compacts. Of course a Nikkon D3 for example is 8.3 microns per pixel.
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With any of the 2.1 roms out my camera is just either slow or takes blurry pictures. 5 PIXELS MY ASS. WTF!
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I have issues even with my 1.5 stock, slow to shoot, slow to record, just overall slow.
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With any of the 2.1 roms out my camera is just either slow or takes blurry pictures. 5 PIXELS MY ASS. WTF!
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I don't have any issues. Perhaps you have a hardware problem?
No issues here either. My pictures come out crystal clear. Lay off the cocaine and your hands wont shake so much
mine is the same, has a white haze in any pic i take. i think it has something to do with the 2.1 builds.
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The HTC hero definitely has a poor quality camera. It is because the light sensor has trouble working too well in dark environments. Also, the shutter speed is very very slow, the slowest shutter speed of any digital camera i've ever used on any phone.
On 2.1(any rom) it seems the shutter speed is even slower. This is probably due to a bug in the 2.1 camera driver.
Take a picture on your HTC hero with 2.1 of something that's moving. I guarantee you it will be VERY blurry. Take it with 1.5, it will still be blurry, but not nearly so much.
Now take it with, for example, the droid. It will come out perfectly on the motorola droid running 2.1 with it's 5MP camera.
Megapixels don't equal quality level >> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
If you still get lousy pics, check your lighting, and clean the camera lens cover.
If you STILL get lousy pics, take the phone back and get a refurb replacement.
hahah the camera is just lousy. tried doing a fix and yadda yadda. everything is blurry. maybe it is cocsine hands haha
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Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
If you still get lousy pics, check your lighting, and clean the camera lens cover.
If you STILL get lousy pics, take the phone back and get a refurb replacement.
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What he said. I was almost as disappointed with the Hero camera as I was with the Moment. However if you set it to 800 and make sure you change the lighting manually too you can take pretty good pics. Not as good as we would all like, but still good.
ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"
ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"[/QUOTE
pretty soon cameras will be just as good on a cell phone as without. technology is getting better. my bro has the droid and the camera is 5x better than the hero. haha
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Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
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Uh...I don't have an ISO option under settings.
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Then your camera app is busted.
You started the camera, pulled out the tab, then tapped on the 'gears' (for settings) right?
No issues here either. My pictures come out crystal clear. Lay off the cocaine and your hands wont shake so much
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Damn I really thought it was the camera!
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ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"[/QUOTE
pretty soon cameras will be just as good on a cell phone as without. technology is getting better. my bro has the droid and the camera is 5x better than the hero. haha
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ummmm no they wont....... they cant be the laws of physics wont allow a lens that is the size of a thumb tack to reproduce and image as well as an optically aligned lens no amount of software can fix opticaly inferiorority.
but im not going to argue with you about it becuase it people like you that think that just because you have a digital camera that your a "photographer" and cheapen the art that many people persuewith passion.
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ummmm no they wont....... they cant be the laws of physics wont allow a lens that is the size of a thumb tack to reproduce and image as well as an optically aligned lens no amount of software can fix opticaly inferiorority.
but im not going to argue with you about it becuase it people like you that think that just because you have a digital camera that your a "photographer" and cheapen the art that many people persuewith passion.
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I agree. Not every idiot with a camera is a photographer. Mostly they're just idiots.
There's just no way around it, the Hero's camera is rather disappointing hardware wise, however it is on par with most other (lower end) cell phone cameras. It works for quick snapshots like it was designed, so I don't really complain.
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There's just no way around it, the Hero's camera is rather disappointing hardware wise, however it is on par with most other (lower end) cell phone cameras. It works for quick snapshots like it was designed, so I don't really complain.
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Exactly. It is what it IS. It's not MEANT to take professional grade wedding photos...or photos that you plan to keep forever. It's meant for pictures to be shared on facebook, or flickr. More for social networking than 'hey, let's take all our vacation photos with the phone!'.
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I agree. Not every idiot with a camera is a photographer. Mostly they're just idiots.
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That is ridiculous. So what if i'm not a "professional" photographer. I STILL WANT high quality images when I DO decide to take a photo.
And guess what, the Motorola Droid, which is a cellphone if I am not mistaken..., can take pictures that are FAR higher quality than the HTC Hero.
The reason the hero's camera is so terrible is because of
1. The light sensor
2. Shutter speed
Now maybe I am wrong and the Droid really is a digital camera and that's why it is higher quality, but I have a feeling that HTC just put a ****ty camera on this phone...
So i just got my evo comibg from the Iphone and i still had the Iphone so i tested the cameras and on the iphone the colors seem much better. For example i take a picture of a orange wall on both and the iphone is mucb brighter and looks tbe color of the wall but the evo color is terrible. Just wondering if there is anything to fix it
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Because they spent so much time developing its camera to share moments cause they knew the phone couldnt hold a call.
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Because they spent so much time developing its camera to share moments cause they knew the phone couldnt hold a call.
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lol. that's a pretty lame reply though. Was the iPhone using HDR?
lol thats funny. I have seen some pretty good pictures taken from Evo's though. There is a great app on the market called vignette, my pictures come out much better with that and it can do a ton of effects.
Thanks james and idk why everyone is bashing the iphone im not sayings the iphone is amazing i was just saying the picture lighting was better
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most likely the screen difference. afaik, the camera is the same on both, except evo has higher mp. Try to put both images on a computer, and view them side by side. They should similar, if not identical.
Ya thought it might just be the screen thanks
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It's simply a superior camera just like the epic's. Ours is still a decent camera and I wouldn't trade my EVO for either phone.
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It's simply a superior camera just like the epic's. Ours is still a decent camera and I wouldn't trade my EVO for either phone.
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thats the gist of it. the iphone4 has a superior camera, the camera is equal when it comes to daylight shots or in a situation where lighting is very good, but as soon as your in a low light situation the iphone4's camera is a billion times better.
In reality the Evo has a better camera, the difference is storage. For the Evo to be able to record HD on to a class 2 memory card they had to compress the hell out of it, thats why it looks so bad. If they would have ponied up the money to ship class 6 cards with the phones then it would be just as good if not better than the iPhones.
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In reality the Evo has a better camera, the difference is storage. For the Evo to be able to record HD on to a class 2 memory card they had to compress the hell out of it, thats why it looks so bad. If they would have ponied up the money to ship class 6 cards with the phones then it would be just as good if not better than the iPhones.
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Any way to get around the compression issue?
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Any way to get around the compression issue?
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Thread on it is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808
The evo and iphone4's cameras are both made by the same company, the only difference is the evo's is 8 megapixel while the iphones is only 5.
I would also say the software has something to do with it. I played with a Droid X at a Verizon store a while back, and the camera seemed to be very reactive to you pressing the shutter button. I think the Evo takes GREAT pics, but it takes a while to focus and if you try to take a pic of something that is in movement, you usually get a heavy blur effect.
The the OP, I also think the screen is why the pics look different. Try taking the same pics and sending them both to an email address where you view both of them on the same screen. That way, you can make a better comparison of the quality of the actual pics themselves.
I find that even with brightness turned to -3 and shooting from 6 feet away, the flash will over-expose the subject that I am trying to shoot.
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I find that even with brightness turned to -3 and shooting from 6 feet away, the flash will over-expose the subject that I am trying to shoot.
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I find that the flash pretty much useless on my EVO, unless my intent is annoy someone with a bright flash of light....i wish that the flash was adjustable. I am sure it is possible, just try the FLASHLIGHT app, where the brightness can be changed...
iPhone loves saturation. Turn saturation up on your phone in ideal lighting and you will have almost identical pictures.
The iPhone 4 has infinitely better low light performance. I know from experience. If you have access to both, shoot a photo without flash in a low light area - you'll see that the iPhone 4 is better.
I too have struggled with the EVO camera and as someone who desperately wants a decent quality smart phone camera so I don't have to carry a dig cam around, was frustrated. Although, saturation, compression , etc. are significant issues...I've had good results with adjusting white balance and ISO. I know, it's a pain to constantly adjust but the EVO's auto settings for the camera do a terrible job. Change white balance to the corresponding environment and pics come out better (incandescent for reg light bulbs, fluorescent for, well fluorescent, you get the picture) and I usually have ISO at 100. I also usually have contrast, saturation, and sharpness at +1.
The flash is a whole other issue...only use in the dark at 10 feet away.
Just my two cents.
EVO's camera sucks. IMO, it's software related. I just wish for once, these companies would spend more time with the cameras instead of just throwing them in as matter of facts.
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thats the gist of it. the iphone4 has a superior camera, the camera is equal when it comes to daylight shots or in a situation where lighting is very good, but as soon as your in a low light situation the iphone4's camera is a billion times better.
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the camera is the manufacturer just higher megapixels. the difference is software
Hi,
so i'm looking for any information about Nexus 4, as i'm trying to get one, but i see in some posts that the camera sucks... I also check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 and i would know if anyone could post a pic before/after the mod. Just to see what is the real pic quality.
Thanks !
A lot more noise compared to gf s3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005445&highlight=camera
Sucks is a pretty strong word. There are plenty of sample pics in the N4 forums so do a search or simply look through the threads in General.
There is a lot of noise in low light... but this is common with tiny sensors. In good light it is capable of very good photos, but saturation and sharpening are a bit laid back. As an experienced photographer I actually prefer this as opposed to other cameras that pump these up by default. Always easier to add then to subtract in post.
Compared to the best phoneCam out there (iPhone), the weakest link is the lens. It is exceptionally prone to flare, and resolution tends to fall off steeply in the corners and there is not alot you can do with these in post. All in all I think it is a pretty good camera for a phone, and if you know what you're doing you will get good shots.
I would just say it's mediocre. It's okay in good light but is worthless in low light conditions.
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Coming from a S3, I'm not disappointed.
Coming from a Galaxy Nexus the camera is great.
Coming from a N8, heavily disappointed.
Yah, terrible comparison, I know.
My s3 did have a better camera but I wouldn't say it sucks I still like it a lot and it gets the job done. The only thing I don't like is it keeps auto focusing even if I'm holding it still i prefer to just hold the center blue button to focus and take a picture
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its not as good as the gs2 either. there is a lot of noise, even in daylight. hdr is a must for low light pics. the imagine software in barebones android leaves a lot to be desired.
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its not as good as the gs2 either. there is a lot of noise, even in daylight. hdr is a must for low light pics. the imagine software in barebones android leaves a lot to be desired.
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it really does, it creates alot of noise. i had an ipod touch 4g before this and that camera sucked so i thought this would be a huge upgrade, but it really not. i also bought an ipod touch 5g and the 5g's camera is better than the nexus
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Coming from a S3, I'm not disappointed.
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Seems fine to me.
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Seems fine to me.
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that picture looks muted. all of the vibrancy of the bright sunny day is gone.
and when you click twice on it for 100% view... there is a slew of noise. the camera is decent from what people say. its the imagings software that leaves a lot to be desired. but... its a dev phone. so what else should we expect?
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that picture looks muted. all of the vibrancy of the bright sunny day is gone.
and when you click twice on it for 100% view... there is a slew of noise. the camera is decent from what people say. its the imagings software that leaves a lot to be desired. but... its a dev phone. so what else should we expect?
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I do notice the noise in the sky, I just choose not to care. It's a phone, after all Also it was approaching sunset, wasn't very vibrant anymore to begin with. Sure as hell beats the camera on the Galaxy Nexus.
Is there any app available that can improve the picture quality?
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Sure as hell beats the camera on the Galaxy Nexus.
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but it isnt as good as my gs2 with old tech
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i am sure there are apps that will clean it up.
Coming from a htc sensation, same quality. 10% worse maybe. Panorama is rubbish compared to the sensation though.
my Nexus S with 5MP did a better job
Yep, camera isn't good,. Video too. Focus is dodgy on both and the microphones and sound quality on video is ****. The video and audio bit rate is way too low.
Very disappointed coming from a s2.
In fact once the s4 comes out I'm going straight back to Samsung .. Even if it means I don't get the latest android versions.
The n4 is slick but that's about it. Lets face it, it's heavy and quite thick, battery is crap, camera and sound quality is crap, the build quality is questionable.. Mine creaks above the volume and the buttons are loose, it's fragile has no SD card, has no removable battery.
Now the hype has gone its meh.
Well, HTC gave the One to professional photographers and the outcome was those great images! What do you think?
Source: http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-photography/?NS01
WoW...
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While they are good, I've got to say I've seen the One's camera take better quality photos.
saw those, if im honest, i dont think theyre overly impressive, the feather is nice though
but its impossible to tell if theyre "good" or not without knowing the conditions they were shot in.
im assuming they were all shot in fairly low light with no flash based on the background, in which case yea, the colours are impressive - im surprised HTC didn't say that though
lack of detail is clear though even when full screen on computer
I agree.. Some people still have a doubt about this camera, but its taking great images. I have my own Canon camera when going on trips or travel. But this camera is great enough for my daily use.
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saw those, if im honest, i dont think theyre overly impressive, the feather is nice though
but its impossible to tell if theyre "good" or not without knowing the conditions they were shot in.
im assuming they were all shot in fairly low light with no flash based on the background, in which case yea, the colours are impressive - im surprised HTC didn't say that though
lack of detail is clear though even when full screen on computer
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You're over thinking it too much in my opinion. Does it really matter what was the setting or conditions they were taken in? Not everyone cares about taking a perfect photo but one that looks appealing to the person taking it.
I'm pretty sure those pictures were taken in the perfect setting and conditions and the look great in my opinion. That tells me that some one with not such great conditions and not a professional will be able to take very descent photos.
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For a mobile phone 1st of all those pics are great, can't believe people can be so critical. If you want top quality photos go and by a DLSR
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You're over thinking it too much in my opinion. Does it really matter what was the setting or conditions they were taken in? Not everyone cares about taking a perfect photo but one that looks appealing to the person taking it.
I'm pretty sure those pictures were taken in the perfect setting and conditions and the look great in my opinion. That tells me that some one with not such great conditions and not a professional will be able to take very descent photos.
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how am i overthinking it?
in good light, my 2 year old htc incredible S would take more detailed pictures than those - like i said, even if you look at them full screen on an HD monitor, the quality is poor
but again, like i said - the light looks like it wasn't good, in which case yes they are pretty impressive, but without knowing the conditions they were taken in it is impossible to know
I think they are great for a phone! I would rather have better low light pictures than bigger images. They only thing I want HTC fix is exposure in both pictures and videos. It seems some conditions pictures get over/under exposed and in videos the exposure auto adjust is too slow.
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how am i overthinking it?
in good light, my 2 year old htc incredible S would take more detailed pictures than those - like i said, even if you look at them full screen on an HD monitor, the quality is poor
but again, like i said - the light looks like it wasn't good, in which case yes they are pretty impressive, but without knowing the conditions they were taken in it is impossible to know
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here's a photo i took very quickly on my incredible S - the detail is far greater than the marbles, for example.
yes, the light is very good in my photo, but the point im trying to make is that the htc photos aren't very good IMO unless you consider they were taken in very low light - but they didnt say they were.... and most people will probably click the full size image and think the same thing as me, and that is that they are really lacking in detail
in other words, as far as photos that "showcase" the overall quality of the One camera go, those ones are poor representations
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here's a photo i took very quickly on my incredible S - the detail is far greater than the marbles, for example.
yes, the light is very good in my photo, but the point im trying to make is that the htc photos aren't very good IMO unless you consider they were taken in very low light - but they didnt say they were.... and most people will probably click the full size image and think the same thing as me, and that is that they are really lacking in detail
in other words, as far as photos that "showcase" the overall quality of the One camera go, those ones are poor representations
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Most android phone will take a great picture like your example but thats because of the lighting is perfect. What matters is a phone will take a perfect picture In low lighting
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Most android phone will take a great picture like your example but thats because of the lighting is perfect. What matters is a phone will take a perfect picture In low lighting
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totally agree
but HTC didn't say "here are some photos taken by professional photographers in very low light, look how great the colours are!"
to those that don't know any better, those are just "photos taken by professional photographers" - and to those people, they probably don't look very good.
i know they're relatively good, because i can see the lighting is poor - most of the people who saw HTCs post won't know that
You people are crazy of you don't think those pictures take with the one aren't good.
What is wrong with you? For one, its a phone camera, not a dlsr. If you want amazing pictures, then spend your hard earned money on that. Who knows, maybe you have a future as a professional photographer, lol!
And DJ, don't you have an HTC one? If so, you get quite defensive in the s4 forums, yet here you are in the One forums doing the same thing.
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The most important photo is actually the first One
HTC is using the fastest shutter time in the industry, if HTC went ahead and used long exposure times instead, the quality will be multiplied
but for a mobile device in your pocket this shutter speed is essential you can grab anything without worrying about blurring it (hint Lumia 920)
the fact that ZOE start buffering action before you even press the shutter is a testament how everyone is underestimating this ability
here is another example of the shutter speed (the high contrast is because I have auto enhanced it with my One X)
Those shots are sadly not real world as it is easy to see they have been taken with professional lighting rigs. (multiple light sources, none from the direction of the lense). They are impressive but I prefer real people's examples.
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You people are crazy of you don't think those pictures take with the one aren't good.
What is wrong with you? For one, its a phone camera, not a dlsr. If you want amazing pictures, then spend your hard earned money on that. Who knows, maybe you have a future as a professional photographer, lol!
And DJ, don't you have an HTC one? If so, you get quite defensive in the s4 forums, yet here you are in the One forums doing the same thing.
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Don't know what you mean by defensive.
The detail in the pictures is poor. I don't care what anyone says, I can see that with MY eyes. The colours in the pictures is good, I can see that with MY eyes. With my eyes I can also see that yes there is professional lighting in these photos, so it is stupid of HTC to provide these photos as a showcase to Joe Public - no one else will shoot in those conditions.
Yea, I'm about to get my One back, and I loved it while I had it, and will love it when I get it back; that doesn't stop me from being impartial with regards to the One / GS4 debate.
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Don't know what you mean by defensive.
The detail in the pictures is poor. I don't care what anyone says, I can see that with MY eyes. The colours in the pictures is good, I can see that with MY eyes. With my eyes I can also see that yes there is professional lighting in these photos, so it is stupid of HTC to provide these photos as a showcase to Joe Public - no one else will shoot in those conditions.
Yea, I'm about to get my One back, and I loved it while I had it, and will love it when I get it back; that doesn't stop me from being impartial with regards to the One / GS4 debate.
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You have extremely high standards for a camera on....a phone. Ultra pixel or not, it is still just a camera....on a phone.
Which IMO does quite well actually. I mean I don't think many of us on here are professional photographer's, so its in the end a regular persons opinion.
Everyone pretends to be an expert though....
And I am sorry you get your pants rustled pretty good in that huge thread you have going over there in the s4 thread. You basically back whatever you can in the One, yet somehow do opposite on this thread about the One.
I don't get it and have a hard time taking someone seriously when you are so wishy-washy.
Again, just my opinion, lol!
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You have extremely high standards for a camera on....a phone. Ultra pixel or not, it is still just a camera....on a phone.
Which IMO does quite well actually. I mean I don't think many of us on here are professional photographer's, so its in the end a regular persons opinion.
Everyone pretends to be an expert though....
And I am sorry you get your pants rustled pretty good in that huge thread you have going over there in the s4 thread. You basically back whatever you can in the One, yet somehow do opposite on this thread about the One.
I don't get it and have a hard time taking someone seriously when you are so wishy-washy.
Again, just my opinion, lol!
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What's hard to understand?
Some people over there make stupid claims about the One, and I am quick to set them straight. Likewise here some people are so blinded by fanboyism they can't admit there is anything to improve upon in the One.
Both types annoy me equally.
I don't know what you are trying to accuse me of here, being impartial? Lol... Although I will admit that yes it can be a rare sight on the forums...
Also please tell me at what point did I say the One wasn't a good camera?
I commented on those photos, stating that I didn't think they were a very good marketing tool, as personally I don't think they are overly good. Do you have a problem with that statement?
Really not sure what you're trying to accomplish here?
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I will say one thing.
HTC One will and it make pictures around 600kb - 1.3mb.
Those photos have 2.5MB (even 13mpx cameras with no comprassion hardly get this value).
So people, those photos are not fake, but also not HTC One photos.
Move on...
The declared megapixels of this camera are 4MP, the declared reason is bucking the megapixel race, the declared usage is social media, the promised compensation is the low MP are good low light performance which delivers as well as fast shutter speed
There are no surprises about the lack of detail
Its like agonizing that a certain car can only do its stated HP
Article, Androidcentral.com
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-megapixel-myth-46-print-htc-one-camera-looks-awesome
Impressive, just something else that justifies me spending $900 :-$
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13 Megapixels vs the benefits of the Ultra Pixel technology? I'll go with Ultra Pixel thank you.
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Wow, that's awesome v
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What was the title of that Sammy fanboy thread 'is this all the HTC One camera can do?'
Looks good enough to me.
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The only question i have is how did he manage to have a 5.5MB picture?
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The only question i have is how did he manage to have a 5.5MB picture?
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Because its a panorama image
Its a nice scene, but thats what the camera excels at, scenes. If you want to use the camera to capture the details of an event its not so good.
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Its a nice scene, but thats what the camera excels at, scenes. If you want to use the camera to capture the details of an event its not so good.
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If the "event" is indoors or some other area that is dimly lit, the HTC is probably gonna do a better job than other higher pixel'd phone cams
Maybe, that's not always true either. It's useless at sporting events unless you just want to capture the atmosphere rather than actual action.
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Maybe, that's not always true either. It's useless at sporting events unless you just want to capture the atmosphere rather than actual action.
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Not sure I'd be using a phone to document a sporting event...
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Thousands do..
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Thousands do..
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Thousands also use digital zoom, it doesn't make it right.
Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Agree with you on this 100%
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Excuses. I love the phone, but the camera is very picky about what it can do and when, personally I think its a bad balance. The megapixel myth is true, but this camera isnt good enough to prove it.
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Good for you?
It has gotten a perfect picture the first time, every time for me. I am so glad that I no longer have to worry about turning on lights in my normally dark house. Maybe your phone needs a usermod? I don't need the 13mp to text a picture or post something to facebook. If I'm taking a photo I care about I'll use a real camera.
Very nice.
Oh how I can't wait for another "this camera sucks because it's not like my iPhone" thread to start rolling.
In all seriousness, this camera has consistently produced images of quality from a phone. I've printed some of them already in 4x6 and 5x7. They looked fabulous. That's damn good enough for me. :good:
I dont really take pictures in my house, I take them when out and about. Its just not got the resolution to be able to resolve objects more than 50ft away in any detail. As I said it takes nice 'scenes', but for example, at a zoo its useless, because animal invariably aren't close to you. Its useless at motor sport events because it cant resolve the cars unless you are very close to them. I took a few shot at a recent event with the One, and a few with the Nexus 10 as a comparison, and it was the N10 that gave me the best single shot!
It does work as a social media camera, which is I suppose what HTC said all along, but lets not be fanboys here, it has big limitations. Most of the shots on this site that are showing off its abilities are macros, which are nice, but frankly any phone can do that, and I was taking better ones with my N95!
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I dont really take pictures in my house, I take them when out and about. Its just not got the resolution to be able to resolve objects more than 50ft away in any detail. As I said it takes nice 'scenes', but for example, at a zoo its useless, because animal invariably aren't close to you. Its useless at motor sport events because it cant resolve the cars unless you are very close to them. I took a few shot at a recent event with the One, and a few with the Nexus 10 as a comparison, and it was the N10 that gave me the best single shot!
It does work as a social media camera, which is I suppose what HTC said all along, but lets not be fanboys here, it has big limitations. Most of the shots on this site that are showing off its abilities are macros, which are nice, but frankly any phone can do that, and I was taking better ones with my N95!
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I assure you I'm not being a fanboy.
Not the best but what I use to take real pictures. You know, like ones at the zoo. Maybe you should pick something like this up if you want to shoot events.
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T2i-Processor-3-0-inch-18-55mm/dp/B0035FZJHQ
Like most people I just want a simple point and shoot device, i dont care enough or need a $600 camera. However I do want one that takes pictures that are worthwhile having.
I wouldn't mind it only being as good as an average phone for these type of shots, but the fact that its worse than a tablet, or even an old phone is inexcusable. The fact is pretty much every 8MP camera phone takes better shots in these situations.