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just wondering if anyone is using a VarioII with copilot and their experiences with it. I have ordered one from tmob on the standard £20 a month + with w&w but alas they are out of stock, so wondeing if i should cancel the order and get something else.
thanks
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just wondering if anyone is using a VarioII with copilot and their experiences with it. I have ordered one from tmob on the standard £20 a month + with w&w but alas they are out of stock, so wondeing if i should cancel the order and get something else.
thanks
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I used CoPilot with my old MDA Compact and it was great. I am waiting for my upgrade to come through to the VarioII. CP never got me lost, once.
Having studied the ALK website, there is only enhancements to the WM2003 version of CP - so can only be a good thing IMO. A lot will come down to personal choice however. The best for me is having a seperate Bluetooth GPS receiver so portability is fantastic.
You can always try out for a while and cancel if you've gone through web or telesales (you have 7 days).
Thanks for you reply. I can wait to get my hands on the device and try it all out, but Tmob seem to have no idea when it will come back into stock interestingly enough its still on their website and they are still taking orders. not sure why they would do such a silly thing.
oac966 said:
Thanks for you reply. I can wait to get my hands on the device and try it all out, but Tmob seem to have no idea when it will come back into stock interestingly enough its still on their website and they are still taking orders. not sure why they would do such a silly thing.
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I used to work for a network provider in the UK (O2) and its a simple case of making the numbers and worrying about delivery later.
I see you're based in the US, my comment re 7 day cool off period may not apply as its a UK based law as part of the Sale of Goods Act - you may want to check what your version is.
I don't have any experience of TMob over there at all. In the UK, I have found customer service to be excellent and if the phone is not in stock then its taken off the site.
I think you'll love it from my experience!
Sorry, newbie to this forum so still setting up profiles etc. but i am actually based in the Uk and have ordered it from the Tmob uk website so hopefully the 7 day period will apply + i think with their new street coverage you can also return the phone in 14 days if u find that the street coverages is not what u expected. (but i could be wrong.)
oac966 said:
Sorry, newbie to this forum so still setting up profiles etc. but i am actually based in the Uk and have ordered it from the Tmob uk website so hopefully the 7 day period will apply + i think with their new street coverage you can also return the phone in 14 days if u find that the street coverages is not what u expected. (but i could be wrong.)
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Spot on. Be aware though that any usage you incur (GSm/GPRS/3G) will be charged as normal.
UK customer services are great (in my opinion), i've only got good things to say about them.
let us know how you get on with CoPilot.
That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
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the 34 is only for use for voice calls to UK mobile and land lines ( eg. no 0845 etc, ) UK text ( no premium ) mms and Voicemail.
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I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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My advice would be to accept the package and ebay the CoPilot reciever and software as it retails at nearly £200 i think so you would make a fair chunk of money back or just phone telesales and i'm sure they would be able to help. As has been said before the customer service is excellent i'm very happy with my plain old Vario and CoPilot its excellent software
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That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
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Nope - Video calls are charged at 15ppm and are classed as outside the bundles - least that what I've got from the Tmob website. Probably best to have a scout round on their site - I found it in the faq section. Failing that check with CS folks.
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shabba007 said:
I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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probably means that they are out of stock on those devices without the CoPilot bundle - speak to CS for advise.
i'm trying to get hold of an MDA compact 2 but the prices people pay on ebay are rediculous didnt realise they were so popular on their particularly the pink ones
Hi quick question,
I just managed to sell my htc hd2 for £390 so am about to order my nexus one! (im in the UK) other UK buyers can you tell me how much its all coming to roughly, i understand its about £340 on the credit card from google then probably about another £60 from DHL once they invoice you?
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
What i was mainly concerned with was that I did hear this may effect gps/maps and sat nav for uk users and that we may not be able to use turn by turn in uk? This may not be true, its just something i remmber reading on another forum?
any thoughts would be appreciated
cheers
Well I believe the UK Nexus will have multi-touch.
I have my Nexus already running Google Nav as it works as per the old method for Hero/Dream.
It depends if you're planning on rooting it or not, if you are then you'll be putting a custom ROM on anyway, which will probably have multi-touch..etc (Cyan is already working on it).
Also the UK will more than likely have a T-mobile brading...etc.
Your Choice.
I have had my DHL bill as yet but it was a tad shy of £355 I think (depends on the exchange rate at the time).
yeah i think by all sounds rooting seems to be the way to go once peeps have had time to iron it out. havent had android phone before but like all i hear, i had the htc hd2 for about 4 hours before i was convinced winmo was a pile of ****! i think i may take the plunge and go for it -my GF keeps saying why dont i just get an Iphone! i think i need this phone to show her why!
If the euro Nexus does have multitouch there's nothing to stop Google updating those US phones sold to UK users - the hardware will be identical.
How do I test multi touch as I thought Eclair supports it out the box? I tried multi touch paint from market and it seems to work fine.
Use Dolphin Browser, this supports multitouch.
We KNOW the phones support it, its just Google couldn't release to US handsets for some reason to do with Apple and copyright??? not entirely sure.
The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
You will need to install a custom version of Maps for Google Maps Navigation to work outside the US. Keep in mind there are some limitations. Search for the thread in the Dream Android Development forum to read how to install and what the limitations are.
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The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
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Exactly what I thought. I prefer the double tap
There is, afaik, no "UK Nexus" and "US Nexus".
They're the same.
If the preinstalled apps in the version sold to US citizens don't have multitouch, the ones sold to Brits won't either.
Same hardware and software, only if you're having it sent to UK, you get the option of getting an adapter for you charger separately.
It's explained on the official support page, which I'm not allowed to link to.
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
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Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
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The Neuxs One is a phone made for the whole world, so importing it will not result in problems with coverage as it supports the mostly used 3g bands around the world.
Also noone is importing the Nexus One to the UK since Google is specifically targetting UK residents and must of course provide customer service to them.
As for other countries which google is not really selling the phone to I don't know, but I assume that the warranty is world wide and you should not have trouble returning it.
fryarch said:
Hi quick question,
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
SC
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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Really? How did it update these apps exactly? I had no 3g/edge/gprs or wifi when I set up. Are you suggesting that OTB there are multiple app versions? Are you saying that if you happend to be in the US and used a UK sim you'd get UK apps? I doubt that very very much, particularly as a SIM is not even required to setup.
SC
Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
TA DA
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Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
SC
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
SC
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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I'm also guessing that it didn;t to the laser etching as i signed in to gmail.
SC
I take it there's still no confirmation as to whether it will be available sim-free from an EU webstore when it is offered on Vodafone? In fact, unless things change, when it is subsidised by VF, it may be a case of signing up to a vodafone contract on google.com and still importing the handset. If there is some sort of google.co.uk offering, then presumably the price will reflect the VAT element.
i got one from ebay 470 free shipping..
Works fine so far, how do i get the maps working? whats the old hero method? Ive never had an hero lol
Has anyone got this to work on the US HD2? thinking of buying one to replace my G1, but i hate to give up my voice search and Google navigation. sorry if this is a repost.
i guess no?
Yea i have a Nexus one..I just got a HD2.. Yea sorry no advanced Google maps..You type it in and it tells you where to go "no voice"! Sucks but in better signal on HD2
I know the feature is really nice for Android Phones 1.6 and up and I am really hoping that Google makes the program available for windows Mobile as well (however I have a feeling they are keeping it for Android for an extra incentive to buy an android Device).
Why not think of... Garmin XT?
You can get Garmin XT on HD2 which is even better than google maps navi... works without the internet easily
Try Co-Pilot
I just jumped from a G1, and I was definitely upset to give up the free Google Navigation.
Someone here suggested the Garmin XT software, and I'm sure it's great, but it's $99, which is more than I would want to spend.
Another option is Co-Pilot, which I purchased for my G1 (before Google released Google Nav). It was excellent, so I purchased it for my HD2. It's only $30, and it's a full-fledged navigation program. One thing about it that's better than the Google Nav is that you do not need your cell signal, as the maps are all loaded on your phone. As long as you have a GPS signal, you're good to go.
Good luck with your decision.
cool thanks guys....ya i may try it out for the 14-day grace period and go from there......I have always been anti Microshaft, but that huge sceen just keeps me wanting it.
I've been thinking of grabbing Global Navigator: http://www.pdafun.net/ It seems to use Google Maps, and seems VERY feature rich for a one-time purchase.
Why dont u just use Copilot8? I bought it last year for my HD and the version that comes with the HD2 is fully compatible with the key from the older version.
Also i used it while a tour through whole germany without any problem.
And you can buy another map like US or western europe or eastern europe.
I can really say that Copilot once made me erase Tomom from HD as i like the 3D feeling to it.
I highly recommend copilot 8. go to www.alk.com/htc for a custom version for the HD2. it's only $30 and works on any sd card (unlike most of the expensive ones that come with a sd card) live traffic and gas costs a whopping $20 a year if you want it.
Maps are on your card so it is better then Google or bing because you do not need an internet connection.
For thoes of us addicted to flashing roms just remember to unregister it before you flash your rom or it won't let you register again.
also don't forget to get the free upgrade of text to speech.
my buddy who is a manager at my t-mobile store said that if i get the HD2 that he will give me a free license for a year to try it out, for copilot 8 i mean. I just hope Android comes out for it though, or windows phone 7. big part of me wants this phone but other part isnt sure if i should chance jumping the gun or waiting.
Do ANY of them have voice search/speak destination?
I haven't seen it on CoPilot which i've been demoing and Garmin's site for the XT doesn't mention it.
-Tony
I was following the Singapore Live Launch this morning and the main topic that came about was Singapore will be getting the first release on the 6 June.
Other nations will follow.
See here for details on the Singapore Live Show.
It is already available for online purchase. I just bought one and will be collecting my unit next monday (31st May).
can u tell us where?
it's available mostly from local telcos in Singapore
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It is already available for online purchase. I just bought one and will be collecting my unit next monday (31st May).
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g00ndu,
once u got ur i9000, wud u mind testing whether the Video Call feature is available and can it be used?
looking forward to ur reply
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g00ndu,
once u got ur i9000, wud u mind testing whether the Video Call feature is available and can it be used?
looking forward to ur reply
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Sure, and once and for all, i will let Beards and company whether there is an LED flash. I seriously doubt that there was one.
Will post once i get my unit on monday.
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can u tell us where?
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I bought it online @ the following link:
https://www.singtelshop.com/#
How do you buy it without a contract on that website singtel ?
because I can't seem to be able to find a link to buy it without contract as I don't live in Singapore.
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Sure, and once and for all, i will let Beards and company whether there is an LED flash. I seriously doubt that there was one.
Will post once i get my unit on monday.
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ahh. cant wait! thanx in advance
Archius said:
How do you buy it without a contract on that website singtel ?
because I can't seem to be able to find a link to buy it without contract as I don't live in Singapore.
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You can't. That's a telco site, only sells locally with telco contract.
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You can't. That's a telco site, only sells locally with telco contract.
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Yup, and at this point of time, only this telco has the tie-up with Samsung. Very similar when the Iphone is launched in SNG.
P/S: Our government doesn't encourage exclusive tie-ups on a permanent basis, which is why Iphone was later sold on the other 2 telcos as well.
P/P/S: I don't even know if this is the 16gb or the 8gb model, but then again it comes with 2 free gifts - 1 pair of "Super Junior" concert tickets and a table stand, whatever that is.
Super Junior is a all boy band from korea. I have seen people paying good money just to go to the concert.
I've checked the phone out yesterday. The screen is just awesome but i noticed that the Google Voice Search function is not available in the phone I've tested. There is no mic icon beside the google search box.
It would be a bummer if they have decided to not include the function. Anyone knows if the function has been omitted out in the retail set or that it is only on the set that I've tested on.
Strange, several of the reviews have commented how accurate the voice search was.
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Yup, and at this point of time, only this telco has the tie-up with Samsung. Very similar when the Iphone is launched in SNG.
P/S: Our government doesn't encourage exclusive tie-ups on a permanent basis, which is why Iphone was later sold on the other 2 telcos as well.
P/P/S: I don't even know if this is the 16gb or the 8gb model, but then again it comes with 2 free gifts - 1 pair of "Super Junior" concert tickets and a table stand, whatever that is.
Super Junior is a all boy band from korea. I have seen people paying good money just to go to the concert.
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To add on, we have rules that doesn't allow SIM locks on phones, so it can be used with any operator. Expect to see many sets sold on the local market as all the girls ditch the sets because they're just interested in seeing Super Junior.
I'm not so sure about the tie-ups, phones like Milestone is still exclusive to SH after so long, as the Cliq and Backflip are exclusive to ST...of course, without sim locks, it really doesn't matter much unless u really want the telco subsidy.
It's the 16gb model. Brochures and launch party states it's only 16gb model sold in SG.
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Strange, several of the reviews have commented how accurate the voice search was.
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Is that the contact search they were referring to?
My brother has a Desire and when he loads Google Maps there's no voice search yet I have it on my WM HD2.
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It would be a bummer if they have decided to not include the function. Anyone knows if the function has been omitted out in the retail set or that it is only on the set that I've tested on.
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I think they have included it, because I have read that it is pretty accurate on this phone (somewhere...)*.
The new vlingo is pretty neat, though, and looks to be a lot more accurate than the standard Google voice stuff!
I quite like this guy's reviews: http://hemorrdroids.net/
He doesn't have too many, but he usually gives me the information I want to hear, and is concise (which I found a lot of the American review sites aren't!)
Anyway, his vlingo demo impressed me.
*edit: just checked, and gsmarena say the voice search is good on this phone: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p8.php
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I think they have included it, because I have read that it is pretty accurate on this phone (somewhere...)*.
The new vlingo is pretty neat, though, and looks to be a lot more accurate than the standard Google voice stuff!
I quite like this guy's reviews: http://hemorrdroids.net/
He doesn't have too many, but he usually gives me the information I want to hear, and is concise (which I found a lot of the American review sites aren't!)
Anyway, his vlingo demo impressed me.
*edit: just checked, and gsmarena say the voice search is good on this phone: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p8.php
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Thanks for the links. Yeah I've read the review on GSMarena before testing the phone. That was why I was surprised to not see the microphone icon beside the google search box. Anyway I believe some of the early birds will be receiving their phones tomorrow. Hopefully they can review the phone and maybe confirm any rumours.
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I've checked the phone out yesterday. The screen is just awesome but i noticed that the Google Voice Search function is not available in the phone I've tested. There is no mic icon beside the google search box.
It would be a bummer if they have decided to not include the function. Anyone knows if the function has been omitted out in the retail set or that it is only on the set that I've tested on.
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The google voice search was'nt on my X10 but you should be able to download it from the Android Market "Google Search By Voice".
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To add on, we have rules that doesn't allow SIM locks on phones, so it can be used with any operator. Expect to see many sets sold on the local market as all the girls ditch the sets because they're just interested in seeing Super Junior.
I'm not so sure about the tie-ups, phones like Milestone is still exclusive to SH after so long, as the Cliq and Backflip are exclusive to ST...of course, without sim locks, it really doesn't matter much unless u really want the telco subsidy.
It's the 16gb model. Brochures and launch party states it's only 16gb model sold in SG.
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So, you ordered yours oredi?
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So, you ordered yours oredi?
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Yes I have.
Thanks for looking in.
I'm just about to go on hol to Florida and I'll be needing Sat Nav. The default Google navigation is not an option as data roaming on o2 is extortionate.
I need an app with maps on SD.
I currently have Navigon but I don't see an American map option for that. I've looked into NDrive and Sygic but again I may have missed something but I can't see an option there either. My Hire car firm want $150 for hire of a Sat Nav unit (which is half the cost of hiring the actual car FFS)so screw them I'd rather sort something myself.
My Desire is Unlocked (Rooted) so a SIM Native to America with a Data plan would be an option... but I've struggled to find any mention of DATA allowance with American sims for sale on UK ebay. It seems a lot of folk have had problems waiting for activation on SIMS purchased on arrival so I'm not sure how useful this option is.
Hello there,
I'm currently using Copilot and it seems to be working very well on the Desire. Just checked and there is the facility to download the Florida map to your SD card (56 MB). Don't know the cost of purchasing Copilit but if you weigh the cost of purchase against the cost of data charges then it may be cost efficient. Hope this help.
Matt
Thankyou.
I completely overlooked Copilot
Hi there,
I've sent you a PM with further details that might help you out with copilot.
Matt