(First, I'm trying to avoid HDwalls)
It has always bugged me that when you apply a wallpaper under Settings, that the wallpaper isn't as clear as if you were to view them in the "Picture" tab. In fact, the applied wallpaper is some what blurred at a lower quality.
Has anyone noticed this? Or is it just me because I can point out something you were not able to see.
try it yourself with some sharp jagged text as wallpaper. Then apply it to the lock screen as well.
You'll notice that the wallpaper on home screen is not as crisp and clear as the one on the lock screen.
Anyone know why?
you are right, I did notice this.
has it got something to do with the phone trying to squish the image into the right ratio instead of just cropping the image too fit?
not sure maybe some other members can offer their help?
See, you didn't even notice youself. And i think most people dont realize this as well.
Anyone got a fix?
rebump. rebump
Sense resizes the image to something smaller than 480x800 and then stretches it again (for some silly reason). It's a long-known problem - since the phone was first released. It's also one of the reasons that HDWall came about. The only alternative to HDWall I know is to install Co0kie's Home Tab. You can set wallpaper with that and it retains the original quality (as well as having a LOT of extra wallpaper options).
Try resizing or cropping the image to 480x800 then setting it as a background, that way the phone won't need to resize it for you.....
conantroutman said:
Try resizing or cropping the image to 480x800 then setting it as a background, that way the phone won't need to resize it for you.....
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It still does it. The default way of setting wallpaper in Sense is just crap.
johncmolyneux said:
It still does it. The default way of setting wallpaper in Sense is just crap.
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Really? That is truly retarted.... thanks for the heads up!
johncmolyneux said:
The only alternative to HDWall I know is to install Co0kie's Home Tab. You can set wallpaper with that and it retains the original quality (as well as having a LOT of extra wallpaper options).
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cookies wall doesnt work. never did.
home tab>menu>home wallpaper> etc...
that path doesnt work.
unless there is some other way...
resizing images dont work either.
I just also want to mention that Cookies Home tab 1.8 does improve the quality of the wallpaper over normal Sense BUT they are still reduced in quality and resolution somewhat so are still not full quality.
So for me - HDwalls is what i use - though i sometimes have trouble getting it to work properly.
Use SPB Mobile Shell. You will get mega sharp wallpapers (custom of course) and far better functionality than standard sense.
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I might have missed this in another thread but could not locate it.
Why on Earth is the Manila home screen background so terribly unsharp?? I've tried images of all sorts of resulotions, the outcome is always the same.
It does not scale the images, it seems to be the exact size, but the backgrounds are ALWAYS unsharp...
Can anyone confirm this, and does anybody know how to fix this??
Try viewing a 480x800 image in the album view, 100% sharp. Then set it as home screen, and it looks more like a stretched, compressed 240x400 image. I never noticed this on my Diamond. Is this one of the "software optimizations" HTC talks about? That's a no brainer, making a device faster by reverting to low res images...
IMage on background
FOr now I dont have any problem with images on background. Everything is sharp, even contacts are great. Not sure what the problem is there
wfhowell said:
FOr now I dont have any problem with images on background. Everything is sharp, even contacts are great. Not sure what the problem is there
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no he is correct. the wallpaper isnt sharp at all
nin2thevoid said:
I might have missed this in another thread but could not locate it.
Why on Earth is the Manila home screen background so terribly unsharp?? I've tried images of all sorts of resulotions, the outcome is always the same.
It does not scale the images, it seems to be the exact size, but the backgrounds are ALWAYS unsharp...
Can anyone confirm this, and does anybody know how to fix this??
Try viewing a 480x800 image in the album view, 100% sharp. Then set it as home screen, and it looks more like a stretched, compressed 240x400 image. I never noticed this on my Diamond. Is this one of the "software optimizations" HTC talks about? That's a no brainer, making a device faster by reverting to low res images...
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I have the same problem !!
Pictures in Album looks great but on wallpaper not ! I dont know why
Can anybody else confirm that the diamond did not have this problem? could there be some setting to change or to port from the diamond manila?
Its because the larger screen size decreases pixel density at 480x800 resolution. Where as the tiny 2.8" screen on the diamond and pro have a higher pixel density. You have more resolution spread over a larger space. Just look at an iphone images aren't that sharp.
I have no problem with the image quality on the homescreen background.
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Its because the larger screen size decreases pixel density at 480x800 resolution. Where as the tiny 2.8" screen on the diamond and pro have a higher pixel density. You have more resolution spread over a larger space. Just look at an iphone images aren't that sharp.
I have no problem with the image quality on the homescreen background.
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No, you dont have right. Tell me why picture in album looks great (very sharp and clear) and this same file looks terrible on the homescreen background...
For the Today Screen:
Programs > Pictures & Videos > menu > Set as Today Background
Set Transparency Level to 0%
That's for the today screen... What about the TF3D home screen? Two different images. I think the OP was talking about the touchflow screen.
i can confirm and many of us also
in can confirm that images viewed with album or whatelse are very good. but when setted in tf3d homescreen background images of differents resolutions are terribles..
darthbane2k said:
no he is correct. the wallpaper isnt sharp at all
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yes same thing here
Shoot me down if I've got this wrong
I was getting the same thing when I first attempted to change the wallpaper, BUT I'd made a basic error and just "Saved As" the thumbnails instead of properley clicking and downloading the correct sized file.
Just a possibility.
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yes same thing here
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same thing here also!!!
I don't think it is an issue with resolution. It seems like the image has been converted to another format and lost some image quality. See the attached jpeg for a comparison between the two.
When you choose a wallpaper does it get saved somewhere? If it did you could check it to see whether it's been altered in anyway from the original.
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I don't think it is an issue with resolution. It seems like the image has been converted to another format and lost some image quality. See the attached jpeg for a comparison between the two.
When you choose a wallpaper does it get saved somewhere? If it did you could check it to see whether it's been altered in anyway from the original.
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You may be able to see more of the wallpaper in this image...
Maybe this is an optimisation performed to reduce the memory overhead for the TF3D process by reducing the quality of the image.
You can guarantee that if HTC's software didn't do this then someone somewhere would have assigned a 4MB jpeg as their background image and then be complaining about a lack of memory, sluggish performance etc.
I found out what manila does with our backgrounds, it reduces it's resolution.
When you save a background (resolution 480x800), manila saves it as the file "HomeBackground.img" in your windows folder and uses it for your background. I copied this file back to my computer and changed the extension back to HomeBackground.jpg (I can't open *.img on my pc). This picture has a resolution of 307x512 !!!
So that's the reason why our backgrounds get this low quality look
Like i mentioned in another thread, changing your original 480x800 picture to HomeBackground.img and placing it in your windows folder doesn't solve the problem
I've put 2 files as attachement: original pic and the "manila-pic"
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I found out what manila does with our backgrounds, it reduces it's resolution.
When you save a background (resolution 480x800), manila saves it as the file "HomeBackground.img" in your windows folder and uses it for your background. I copied this file back to my computer and changed the extension back to HomeBackground.jpg (I can't open *.img on my pc). This picture has a resolution of 307x512 !!!
So that's the reason why our backgrounds get this low quality look
Like i mentioned in another thread, changing your original 480x800 picture to HomeBackground.img and placing it in your windows folder doesn't solve the problem
I've put 2 files as attachement: original pic and the "manila-pic"
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Good find. I wonder if it'll be possible to make manila use full resolutions pics. what happens when you place an image named HomeBackground.img into the windows folder? Does it resize it or just not open at all?
This may be related to the work to get a 512x512 image on the background, or am I misunderstanding?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Custom
(near the end of the page)
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Good find. I wonder if it'll be possible to make manila use full resolutions pics. what happens when you place an image named HomeBackground.img into the windows folder? Does it resize it or just not open at all?
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it resizes it and placing HomeBackground.jpg in the windows folder doesn't work at al
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but I set a picture to be my wallpaper and realised that at the home screen, it looks very blur. I checked the width and height of the picture and it is 480x800. Also when I view the picture in the photo gallery, it is much much sharper, like what it supposed to be.
Is there a way around this?
Thanks!
ave a look in the themes an apps section. 480 x 800 will show up unless you follows a guide on how to make it come up crystal.
Just do a search for Wallpaper Guide
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I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but I set a picture to be my wallpaper and realised that at the home screen, it looks very blur. I checked the width and height of the picture and it is 480x800. Also when I view the picture in the photo gallery, it is much much sharper, like what it supposed to be.
Is there a way around this?
Thanks!
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I just tested my phone and no probs all wallpapers or pictures look great
Can I ask how you selected your wallpaper?
Was it through settings wallpaper?
or another method
I've also noticed this as some pics transfer fine and clear to the wallpaper and some look enlarged and blurry. I'm thinking it's the larger screen size vs. the pic resolution size. My pro at 2.8" was not an issue. It hasn't bothered me enough to seek a fix, I'm using mobile shell and selecting the change image option. Ureka!! thats it, the shell! Doh!!! just my $.02
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I just tested my phone and no probs all wallpapers or pictures look great
Can I ask how you selected your wallpaper?
Was it through settings wallpaper?
or another method
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yeah i just used the simplest method.. just get to the settings tab in TF3D and choose from there.
cbreze said:
I've also noticed this as some pics transfer fine and clear to the wallpaper and some look enlarged and blurry. I'm thinking it's the larger screen size vs. the pic resolution size. My pro at 2.8" was not an issue. It hasn't bothered me enough to seek a fix, I'm using mobile shell and selecting the change image option. Ureka!! thats it, the shell! Doh!!! just my $.02
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yeah i had a diamond before this and the wallpapers looked great there.
but the funny part is that the pics look great and sharp when viewed in the photo gallery, but only becomes blur when used as wallpaper.
OH and they don't look enlarged lol. the wallpapaer keeps the size, but it's really blur.
Just use the search button and read the wiki, this is another one of those topics that have been done to death, there's heaps of information on it.
Could anyone pls try the following?
Set as background for both lockscreen and homescreen the same picture with a gradient: you can use the circular gradient that the phone has already stored.
in the lockscreen the gradient is very visible while in the homescreen it's very smooth.
weird...
Can you take any screenshots?
The background in the lock screen is actually of higher resolution than the sense one. This is because sense does something awkward to images. It crops a smaller part and then stretches it to fit the whole home screen.
The lockscreen seems to recompress the images indeed. A perfect image once set as lockscreen appears like an awfully blocky JPG. I guess it doesn't use the image as is but makes a badly compressed copy.
I use S2U2 now, that sort of solves the problem
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The lockscreen seems to recompress the images indeed. A perfect image once set as lockscreen appears like an awfully blocky JPG. I guess it doesn't use the image as is but makes a badly compressed copy.
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From my experience, it's the other way round.
The image you see on the lockscreen is the Windows Today background, and that's just a centered view of the image you select. It doesn't do any cropping or resizing whatsoever.
For the OP - try HDWall. It allows you to have high quality images for wallpaper, as well as having the wallpaper work on all tabs. It's in the themes and apps forum. If you do use it, you'll need to install the HQ patch in the first post the first time you use it, or the backgrounds don't look right. Using HDWall, I struggle to see the difference between the manila background and the start menu/lock screen.
Hope this helps
here are the screeshots
The images I tried were exactly 480x800 as I made them on purpose. When viewing them on the device (with HTC Album or Resco photo manager), they look perfectly good, but on the lockscreen they're awful.
Sense indeed applies some kind of "grainy" post-processing, but I don't mind it, in Sense the background is not very apparent, I actually just use a default WP.
But anyway, some screenshots:
Sense rendering:
Lockscreen:
S2U2:
See how the lockscreen one appears hugely blocky? OK the original pic I used wasn't perfect for a start, but you can clearly see the difference between S2U2 that just displays the image as is and the recompression the lockscreen does.
As far as I can see, the HDWall works only with wallpaperss in a cab file.
Is there an other way to have HQ Wallpapers in a "normal way"?
Im using the Theme Maker from Max as well but there seems no HQ option to be included.
tomylee
kilrah said:
The images I tried were exactly 480x800 as I made them on purpose. When viewing them on the device (with HTC Album or Resco photo manager), they look perfectly good, but on the lockscreen they're awful.
Sense indeed applies some kind of "grainy" post-processing, but I don't mind it, in Sense the background is not very apparent, I actually just use a default WP.
But anyway, some screenshots:
Sense rendering:
Lockscreen:
S2U2:
See how the lockscreen one appears hugely blocky? OK the original pic I used wasn't perfect for a start, but you can clearly see the difference between S2U2 that just displays the image as is and the recompression the lockscreen does.
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I c u'r using s2u2: is it working fine on the HD2? any issue?
Perfectly fine.
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Lockscreen:
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Any fix or workaround for this yet (other than using S2U2)?
SaintNULL said:
Any fix or workaround for this yet (other than using S2U2)?
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Looking for the exact same thing....
Any update??
Hey all - anyone notice that even after HDwall tool is used for wallpapers, that your wallpaper is actually still somehow in very bad quality?
there's actually no difference between using HDwall and actually just pasting your wallpaper into the phone.
The only difference is that the top and bottom bar now uses your image with a registry edit.
Since I like to see fine lines and definitions on an image instead of fuzziness I was wondering where the image is translated and cached.
you can check the differences if you save a high quality image into 480x800 and then use it as a wallpaper with sense and then also choose the same wallpaper for the lock option.
you'll notice that wm6.5's proper wallpaper will show the image sharply, while it's dulled out in the skinned sense.
I found the registry keys that display the image, but I don't know if this is a limitation with sense and it's ability to render the image onto the background or is it just a shot of the image stored elsewhere. I would like to know though so I can do some registry changes to get that going.
You must have some problem, HDWall background should look perfectly good. Works fine here. Did you apply co0kie's hqwallpaper patch?
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You must have some problem, HDWall background should look perfectly good. Works fine here. Did you apply co0kie's hqwallpaper patch?
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I applied the patch and the image will not come up with the image associated -- I ran the hdwall cab that was created without the patch, and I got a background.
I have tried out 3 different android builds, and what I found with the wallpaper when trying to use on the leo is the sizing aspect. You can actually look at the wallpaper in the gallery with no problem full view, the moment you try to use as wallpaper and set it it blows the picture up when set.I am quite aware that the android was not originally made for the HTC HD2 but if you can watch it in the gallery there must be a way.
what resolution are you trying to use for your wallpapers? on my nexus one (same screen res), i have to use 960x800+ backgrounds because of the wallpaper scrolling. if you're trying to use something smaller, it'll be blowing it up i think.
Thats a good question I never changed my screen resolution let me try that and I will get back to you.
Thanks a million
960 x 800 pixels
I need help finding out how to change my screen resolution if possible.
geewld44 said:
I need help finding out how to change my screen resolution if possible.
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I'm afraid that's hardware based. You can try to saw off a part of your screen, but post a vid
Just make sure you use 800x480 with DISABLED wallpaper-scrolling and 800x960 with ENABLED wallpaper-scrolling.
Also: Don't forget to pull the clipping border to the image edges when setting wallpaper from gallery!
Jealousy said:
Also: Don't forget to pull the clipping border to the image edges when setting wallpaper from gallery!
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that caught me out initially...
Jealousy said:
I'm afraid that's hardware based. You can try to saw off a part of your screen, but post a vid
Just make sure you use 800x480 with DISABLED wallpaper-scrolling and 800x960 with ENABLED wallpaper-scrolling.
Also: Don't forget to pull the clipping border to the image edges when setting wallpaper from gallery!
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Yeah I tried to crop the whole pic but it has a mind of its own it enlarges the pic when I hit set thanks for the info.