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The lack of hardware keys (without the keyboard attatched) on the x7501 was my biggest reservation while deciding to buy it. Now I'm having trouble with AEBPlus and HButton (would be perfect if I could use AEBPlus & assgn Hbuttons to the Long Press mode, but it doesn't work). I can't seem to get the flexibilty in button assignments like I had wiith my wizard, I think because a lot of the long keypresses are OS assigned and not UI available.
I don't want to start reg hacking in my random ways if someone has more experience, or better software ideas, and would be willing to share it.
(I keep my unit in the case without the buttons locked when it's in standby, so if I hit a hdwe key, I only have to do that once to get a specific Mortbutton menu up. 2 gestures to anything is my goal. Hbutton often can allow only 1, but I only get 2 keys out of it CommMgr/Record & Camera, my "IE" button longpress seems to be commandeered by VueFlo (cute but pretty useless). If I use that the AEBPlus doesn't seem to work on the other keys.)
UPDATE: I reinstalled AEBPlus, this time with the PC/Activesync installer instead of the cab. The cab installation I did didn't seem to change things. In any case, AEBPlus is working now.
Thanks!
Janis said:
The lack of hardware keys (without the keyboard attatched) on the x7501 was my biggest reservation while deciding to buy it. Now I'm having trouble with AEBPlus and HButton (would be perfect if I could use AEBPlus & assgn Hbuttons to the Long Press mode, but it doesn't work). I can't seem to get the flexibilty in button assignments like I had wiith my wizard, I think because a lot of the long keypresses are OS assigned and not UI available.
I don't want to start reg hacking in my random ways if someone has more experience, or better software ideas, and would be willing to share it.
(I keep my unit in the case without the buttons locked when it's in standby, so if I hit a hdwe key, I only have to do that once to get a specific Mortbutton menu up. 2 gestures to anything is my goal. Hbutton often can allow only 1, but I only get 2 keys out of it CommMgr/Record & Camera, my "IE" button longpress seems to be commandeered by VueFlo (cute but pretty useless). If I use that the AEBPlus doesn't seem to work on the other keys.)
Thanks!
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AEButton will generally do long presses, double presses, and triple presses... if they are available. As you mention, this seems to be a hardware problem. Example, the "e" (internet) button uses the long press to activate/deactivate the motion sensor within your browser.
As a former Wizard owner, I know where you are coming from. Remapping the "e", "record", and "Win" buttons has given me about 9 quick launches, one of which is WkTask which gives another 12 on a pop-up panel--not to mention showing all open windows on the top bar. Also, the big screen makes iLauncher usable. And I still use good-ole SmallMenu. So I'm doing OK with opening things quickly. But I do miss having all those button launches from the Wizard.
Doing better
HButton and AEBPlus don't play well together at all.
I'm on AEBPlus, post flash, and don't get any long-presses, but I have 3 possiblilities on each of the buttons. Along with MortButtons and actually using the CommMgr instead of hdwe keys, I seem to be getting along well enough.
I had the basic edit commands (select all, copy, cut, paste) assigned to a key in AEBPlus, and turn on/off BT and WiFi. That's what I miss. I use MortButtons for it now, so it's a two-step process, but it works.
The problem with "long keypress'es" for many buttons like Ok/Win/VueFlo etc) is caused by keyboard driver implementation and may not be resolved on application level. The button driver returns both "key was pressed" and "keys was released" events simultaneously, right after button was phisically released. So application could not define time period button was in pressed state to decide if it was long or short keypress...
As for BPlus configuration for my Athena (I have no keyboard at al and use bplus only):
* Button 2 (40C2): (IE button)
1: Call default handler
2: "Messaging"
3: "Notes"
* Button 3 (40C3): (wireless manager)
1: Rotate Screen
2: Show Actions Menu
3: Switch Flashlight Off/On
* OK key (4075):
1: Press Green Button
2: "Contacts"
3: "Calendar"
* Windows key (405B):
1: "Notes"
2: "File Explorer"
3: Show Actions Menu
* Enter/Action (000D):
1: Call default handler
Long: Task Manager
* Volume Up (0075):
Change volume or...
1: Volume Up
2: Backlight Up
Long: Backlight Level 10
* Volume Down (0076):
Change volume or...
1: Volume Down
2: Backlight Down
Long: Backlight Level 1
Action menu items:
Rotate Screen
Switch BlueTooth off/on
Switch WiFi Off/On
Trigger Online
Disable "Power off if not used"...
Device Lock
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AE, love the program but have one problem. The "ok/close" function is never "close", just always "ok".
The only way that I know of to map the OK button to really be "ok/close" is to configure an hbutton key to be "ok/close" and then use AEbplus to make that hbutton.lnk to the OK key. It's a bit convoluted and requires both programs being loaded and running (hbutton uses more memory than aebplus), but it's the only way to make it work.
Any way to fix the "ok/close" function in AEbplus? Even when there is an "X" in the upper right corner, AEbplus only minimizes the app, never closes.
Has anyone tried remapping or assigning the keyboard buttons to launch applications?
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Is it possible to get the Half-Press-Function of the Camera-Button assigned for normal working(windows-mode, not camera-mode)??
greetz
hi i remeber there was a free app that allowed to set one hardware button to have 2 functions ie short press and long press, does anyone know where the link/post is for the app? or even a app i can buy?
AeButton Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
fards said:
AeButton Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
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cheers mate
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
Hello,
I also bought this usful application. But I have problems to configure the "panel" button.
I added the panel button and configure it. When I press the button, the configured action is executed, but the panel is also still executed
Any ideas?
stefan
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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i think you may be stuck with the panels button being unmappable right now. let's hope someone can figure it out though.
might be best to speak to the apps developers to get X1 support built in to allow the panel button remapping.
I sent Alexander an email and he answered yesterday. I got the following answer:
My understanding is, that he is not able to solve the problem because the button is processed on driver level. So we have to find a solution to disable this part of the driver which sounds not so easy to handle....
Bad news for me because I didn't use the panels...
stefan
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Hello Stefan,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility useful.
As for the “panel” button. The behaviour you describe most likely caused by “panel” button is processed on a driver level. This makes it impossible to disable original functionality by method BPlus uses.
So you could just search for another solution and it probably is in forums already. I have no X1 somewhere around to play with (unfortunately) but could suggest 2 ideas:
- Usually this “driver-level” functionality finally starts an application placed in /Windows/ folder. You could find this application (or link sometimes) and overwrite with “empty” application or link. Sometime it will require .CAB file creation due to ROM file protection.
- or default application to run on “panel” press could be specified in registry. Just search the registry for it and change to do nothing.
There are other approaches for “default” action possible but above are most simple and well-known.
Regards,
Alexander
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fards said:
might be best to speak to the apps developers to get X1 support built in to allow the panel button remapping.
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SCtud said:
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
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I can't see Voice Command showing up as a possible mapping. I had it mapped to the right silver key before I installed AEBPlus but it does not show in the dropdowns of AEBPlus as an app or anything else. Have I missed something?
http://chomikuj.pl/xcoom/HTC+Touch+Diamond/Programy/HButton/HButton_2.3_WM5.CAB
HButton
1 button 5 app
norm2002 said:
I can't see Voice Command showing up as a possible mapping. I had it mapped to the right silver key before I installed AEBPlus but it does not show in the dropdowns of AEBPlus as an app or anything else. Have I missed something?
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you gotta have the setting for single click to run the application. the file you want to run is in \Program Files\MS Voice Command\voicecmd.exe
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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HI,
What is the version of MS voice command are you using?
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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How're you doing with battery life? Some people notice their battery dies quicker, some don't and I unfortunately fall into the former group. It's definitely one of the most useful thing I have ever bought but had to uninstall as my battery was draining fairly quicker than usual, shame though.
You can also try my X1ButtonMapper app that can be found in this forum. It allows for assigning long press actions for softkey and volume rocker. Besides that, it allows for Ok short and long press remapping, mapping missing Fn+Key, Setting Ctrl on keyboard and some more. It is for free and I haven't had and heard about any battery drain issue.
I recommend X1ButtonMapper it extends the keyboard and other buttons. Check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464595
Anyone know how to disable the hardware buttons for the incoming call screen?
I only want to answer/reject calls with the slider, not the hardware buttons as I sometimes touch them by accident while getting the phone out of my pocket.
I've tried PocketShield but didn't like it, although it was able to disable the hardware buttons. Any other suggestions?
Have you already tried s2u2? The slider can receive/reject incoming calls and you also have options to disable the hardware buttons. Works great on my elf.
I tried it some days ago, couldn't get it to work the way I wanted it to, mainly because I don't want to use the locking part. I always lock my device with the power button and I only wanted to have the ability to disable the hardware buttons for incoming calls.
After your message, I decided to install it again and give it another try. Changed some of the settings and I think I finally managed to get it working the way I want to!
It's a bit of a memory consuming app for just disabling the hardware buttons for incoming calls, but hey, it works
Thanks!
If anyone finds a solution without using S2U2, please let me know!
Ok, I have uninstalled S2U2 again. Even though it did do the job, it was also a memory consuming application just for disabling the answer/reject keys during incoming calls and I want to keep my device as clean as possible.
I have searched for hours trying to find a solution to this what I think is a very common problem. How many of you have accidentally accepted or rejected calls because of the hardware buttons? In my opinion, HTC should have thought about this and provide a solution for it.
Anyone with a better solution than S2U2?
Thanks for your input!
New version 1.40 of S2U2 uses MUCH less battery. I almost don't notice, it's running. Great program at least for me.
Since your previous post S2U2 1.4 has been released. This is supposed to address the issues you mention.
can you tell me how you have set your settings for just disabling the hardware buttons for incoming calls in s2u2 ? Thanks
I've used AE Button Plus to disable the 'Answer Call' an 'End Call' hardware keys as I had the same annoying problem of accidentally rejecting a call when taking the device out of my pocket. This works well for me and have now enabled the keys to turn wifi and bluetooth off and on with 3 taps.
Thanks everyone!
I wasn't aware of the latest S2U2 version and I almost gave it another try until I read Anfloyd's post.
I did look at AE Button Plus before, but didn't think it was capable of doing what I wanted: disable the hardware buttons during incoming calls, but still have them functional when there isn't an incoming call (such as showing the phone dial screen which it does by default).
When I looked at the AE Button Plus website, I noticed I couldn't configure the buttons based on the current active screen/program. So, even though I knew I could disable the hardware buttons, I thought I would then loose the whole functionality of them..and that would make the answer and reject buttons on my device useless.
BUT, after reading your message Anfloyd, it got me thinking..I don't need to configure it based on the current screen/program. I can just disable the buttons for 1 tap..and assign programs for them for 3 taps for example.
So, now I have this:
- 1 tap: do nothing. This way, both the answer and reject buttons are not working during incoming calls and I can only use the slider to accept/reject calls.
- 3 taps for answer button: start the phone application.
- 3 taps for reject button: nothing yet, but I'll find something
This is a solution I can work with! I have only tested it for a short time, so if it turns out that AE Button Plus is causing problems I'll give the latest S2U2 another try, but so far this seems to be working just fine.
Thanks again for your input!
ChrisVDD, those options can be found in the S2U2 settings. I don't have S2U2 installed anymore so I don't remember the exact settings. I just disabled all locking features that I didn't need, selected to disable the hardware buttons and chose to use the slider. Give it a try, you should be able to sort it out. If you can't, let me know and I'll install S2U2 again to see what settings you need.
My config in AEBplus
left hardware key
1 tab do nothing
2 press green key
right hardware key
1 tab do nothing
2 press red key
3 rotate display
PhaseIV said:
My config in AEBplus
left hardware key
1 tab do nothing
2 press green key
right hardware key
1 tab do nothing
2 press red key
3 rotate display
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Would you so kind please and tell me how to configure more than 1 actions to a button.
When I choose green phone button i can only say disable, but dont now how to get another function to work with same button.
I would like to have :
tap 1x = do nothing,
tap 3x = start phone application (normal behaviour.
Would you so kind please and tell me how to configure more than 1 actions to a button.
When I choose green phone button i can only say disable, but dont now how to get another function to work with same button.
I would like to have :
tap 1x = do nothing,
tap 3x = start phone application (normal behaviour.
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First, select and hold "Green Phone button".
Then do this from top to bottom:
3. Handle by AEBPlus
1. Single press
1. None
..and select Ok
Then select and hold "Green Phone button" again.
Do this from top to bottom:
3. Handle by AEBPlus
3. Triple press
13. Press Green Button
..and select Ok
Then File > Save and Exit
That's it
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First, select and hold "Green Phone button".
Then do this from top to bottom:
3. Handle by AEBPlus
1. Single press
1. None
..and select Ok
Then select and hold "Green Phone button" again.
Do this from top to bottom:
3. Handle by AEBPlus
3. Triple press
13. Press Green Button
..and select Ok
Then File > Save and Exit
That's it
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Thank you for your fast reply, now It works like I wanted it to do.
Is it possible to end call using red hardware button but not to ignore it before answering? I tried AEBplus and it works like it should but that's not all I needed.
danum said:
Since your previous post S2U2 1.4 has been released. This is supposed to address the issues you mention.
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The problem I have with s2u2 is that I cannot mute incoming calls... The voulme buttons are locked... the touch screen is locked and mute on face down also does not work....
Maybe A_C will allow us which buttons to lock in the next release...
is there an easy way, or a cab made to make the end call button the power button like the hero and hd2? this would increase one handed usability on such a large device. thanks all!
You can hold the top button down for a few seconds and it will ask you if you want to shut off.. same thing.
vader165 said:
is there an easy way, or a cab made to make the end call button the power button like the hero and hd2? this would increase one handed usability on such a large device. thanks all!
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Don't think this is a good idea. The HD2 has a dedicated Home button. The TP2 does not. The End Call button already does double-duty as the Home button. It would be overkill for it to also act as the Standby button.
Besides, while the TP2 is large, you can still hit the Standby button even if you're holding it with one hand. If the device is in your palm, you should still be able to reach the Standby button with your index finger. This would be difficult on the HD2...
Btw, if you install SPB PocketPlus, it enables some advanced button mapping settings. You can map the long-press Back button to Standby. But I find it doesn't work if you're in Manila/Sense/TF3D. For example, if I don't have any applications opened and I'm in the Sense interface (home tab, people tab, whatever), Standby wouldn't work if mapped to the Back button. But if I have an application opened (eg, Notes, Tasks, etc), it'll work...
I have the TMOUSA HD2 (latest stock ROM), but I assume this question would apply for all HD2s.
I have an app called Doublelauncher, that I bought years ago, that can remap hardware keys to different functions depending on single press, double press, triple press, press and hold, double press and hold.
The HD2 doesn't have many hardware buttons. The WinMo button app only shows one that can be configured--press and hold the green key. (Default of that to Voice Command. I would like to keep it with that function.)
In fact, I would like to keep all the default functions of the few keys on the device, just add more possibilities via long press, double and triple press, etc.
Doublelauncher doesn't work at all on the HD2. It installs, the app starts, but shows absolutely no keys that can be mapped.
I've read here on XDA about AE Button Plus, that it can remap anything, including the double and triple functions, long plus, etc. I downloaded the newest version, and installed it in main memory.
Extremely difficult to figure out how to use it, with no help file, no directions at all from the developer, not on his web site either. (Does anyone know of a good online guide or tutorial for this app?) However, I thought I finally figured it out (to some extent), and mapped different functions to the back key, for double press, triple press, and press and hold. I rebooted the machine after saving, tried these different presses, and none worked at all. The back key still only did back, no matter how many presses, no matter if I held it.
Other problems I find with AEB. I had installed Duttys Task Manager last night, and did the registry tweak necessary to have its icon on the right end of the task bar. Nice task manager. But AEB seems to keep changing (on reboot) that reg value back to 0, so the task bar icon does not appear.
Furthermore, AEB slows down my system terribly. (That is on the HD2, the fastest WinMo device there is!) Boot time is now incredibly slow, it is ridiculous!
Therefore, I have a couple of questions:
1. Suggestions to make AEB really work, and not cause the problems described above?
2. Has anyone had success with other button remappers on the HD2? Vito Button Mapper? Others?
Thanks in advance for your help.