Nothing works - HD2 General

I have tried to flash a ROM but cant because my SPL is 2.10.
I have downloaded and follwed the intructions to reflash my spl from 2.10 to 2.08 and it doesnt work. Screen stays at the three colors and never goes to load. I have downloaded and followed the instructions to flash a custom rom without hspl via SD card and it freezes at 0% and then errors out.
I HAVE READ, SEARCHED, and TRIED for hours.
This loading of ROMs here is not easy as members put it. This is rediculous. Anyone care to take some extra time and help me fige this out?
Second question I have is why does google talk not load? I get error 409 invalid user name and password. It's not. I have logged in on my pc with the same username and password I tried on my HD2. Tmobile Tech support doesn't have a clue.

Read/search and you shall find!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 for flashing ANY HSPL (srsly read)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477 <-- if everything else fails

Bartkevin said:
Read/search and you shall find!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 for flashing ANY HSPL (srsly read)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477 <-- if everything else fails
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Ya thanks. Dis that already.

when you go into bootloader what does it say next to spl?

samsamuel said:
when you go into bootloader what does it say next to spl?
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spl 2.10
10 char

go to the tmous rom development thread and in the "test and stock roms" sticky thread find the rom 2.10.0
some of those roms don't include spl, but I know 2.10.0 works.
also, some of those roms get seen by your phone as custom, which could be why your sd card attempt fails. if the rom comes as customruu plus ruu_signed.nbh, then even though it's stock the phone won't see it asstock.
as to the usb side of things, hspl is very picky which usb ports you can use.it won't work through usb hubs, or with ports mounted in the front of your pc case.
you should use a port around back of the pc.

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HD2 bricked ? Attempted to install UK WWE 1.66 onto Voda HD2 with HPSL

Help!
First time attempt at using HPSL and may have bricked my HD2 :-(
I have a Voda supplied HD2 so can't install the stock ROMs directly...I thought I would be able to do so via HPSL, but it seems not. I was trying to install 1.66 (UK WWE) following the HPSL for dummies guide, and did the following:
- installed HPSL onto HD2, confirmed by going into bootloader
- put nbh file (extracted from stock .exe) onto SD card, named LEOIMG.nbh
- entered bootloader and chose flash option via power button
- flash started (minimal progress)
- within 2mins error showed
- now going into bootloader shows
00028002
Not allow
then..
SPL-1.42.0000 :-(
Upgrade ROM code error Please try again
If I start normally I get a warning triangle.
How can I get my HD2 back from the dead, ideally with 1.66 rather than the crummy Voda 1.43? (can anyone point me at a stock ROM for the voda 1.43, perhaps that would at least unbrick it?)
Help!!!!
*EDIT* Currently downloading the Voda 1.43 image, hoping I can at least get that back and running...if that works will still be keen to find out how to apply stock 1.66 via HPSL (bearing in mind that the CID lock(?) means I can't apply 1.66 on my voda device thru normal means)
CraigBruce said:
(can anyone point me at a stock ROM for the voda 1.43, perhaps that would at least unbrick it?)Help!!!!
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The 3rd sticky down in the HD2 ROM Development thread is titled, "[REF]Leo Official ROMs" - Click that.
Then click, "Shared folder for shipped Leo ROMs".
The first "box" will have the title "Leo 1.43" under it. Click the hand carrying the folder icon.
You'll be greeted with 3 ROM's, select RUU_Leo_Vodafone_UK_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26. 50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe and download it.
Hope that helps.
Good luck with getting your phone back up and running.
Your device is not bricked. I think you have not installed HSPL properly.
Try installing HSPL again. As it seems your HSPL is not installed properly. Follow the following instructions very carefully :
Connect your phone to USB
I think when you boot in by default your device goes into bootloader if not press volume down + power butoon on the same time, your phone will enter tri color bootloader mode.
At the bottom of your screen it shoul show "USB"
Now download the HSPL.zip file(I have attached it here)
Now run HSPL.exe and follow the onscreen insteuctions.(Mostly you have nothing to do it will start installing automatically)
After a while on the screen of your phone a text will appear saying "We hacked it". If this text is displayed then everything went ok. Now confirm by clicking yes on the computer screen and it will finish the process.
All done.
Your phone will restart.
If you want to check that your fone has HSPL then press volume down+power key at the same time. The phone will enter into bootloader and should show "cotullaHSPL".
Now you can install any ROM and it will run properly.
Thanks - had just found that and started downloading as you posted this..fingers crossed! If this works will still be keen on ways to apply 1.66 (stock) to my voda CID locked device.
ankush1492 said:
Your device is not bricked. I think you have not installed HSPL properly.
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After a while on the screen of your phone a text will appear saying "We hacked it". If this text is displayed then everything went ok. Now confirm by clicking yes on the computer screen and it will finish the process.
All done.
Your phone will restart.
If you want to check that your fone has HSPL then press volume down+power key at the same time. The phone will enter into bootloader and should show "cotullaHSPL".
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This is exactly what happened 1st time I installed HSPL...however trying it again did get the phone back and apparenty healthy again....thanks!
So - 2nd attempt to flash the 1.66 ROM, same as before. Confirmed HSPL installed via tri-colour bootloader screen, selected (via power button) option to flash from SD. Progress bar gets to (max) 10%, Warning triangle briefly shows then phone goes back to tricolour bootloader (but with std. SPL version) and nothing more happens.
Should I be waiting longer ? i.e. is the phone potentially still flashing when on the tricolour, std. SPL, screen ? Not flashed an HD2 before so not 100% sure I'm doing this right..will double check videos on this site, sure I'm just being stupid/impatient/not read enough....may try downloading the ROM again incase corrupted.
Anyway, HSPL installed for 3rd time and phone appears fine back running with 1.43.
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
CraigBruce said:
This is exactly what happened 1st time I installed HSPL...however trying it again did get the phone back and apparenty healthy again....thanks!
So - 2nd attempt to flash the 1.66 ROM, same as before. Confirmed HSPL installed via tri-colour bootloader screen, selected (via power button) option to flash from SD. Progress bar gets to (max) 10%, Warning triangle briefly shows then phone goes back to tricolour bootloader (but with std. SPL version) and nothing more happens.
Should I be waiting longer ? i.e. is the phone potentially still flashing when on the tricolour, std. SPL, screen ? Not flashed an HD2 before so not 100% sure I'm doing this right..will double check videos on this site, sure I'm just being stupid/impatient/not read enough....may try downloading the ROM again incase corrupted.
Anyway, HSPL installed for 3rd time and phone appears fine back running with 1.43.
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Yeah, the 1.66 ROM you've downloaded may be corrupted. And next time, try installing the ROM with USB connection and the ROM's .exe file. You SPL is reverting back to stock, so it's possible that the culprit is flashing with SD.
OK, problem solved...
Rather than installing the stock ROM via HSPL bootloader I installed HSPL and then ran the RUU exe for the stock ROM. Phone now upgraded
dragon_soft said:
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
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Thats not true, you can flash custom roms with hspl from an sd card
see my video *here*
dragon_soft said:
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
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[★] said:
Thats not true, you can flash custom roms with hspl from an sd card
see my video *here*
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I believe Dragon Soft was possibly referring to not using a stock ROM from SD? If I remember correctly flashing a Stock ROM from SD with HSPL on will remove HSPL.
So in other words, if you have HSPL and want to have a stock ROM, it is best install it from the PC when connected via ActiveSync as this won't affect the HSPL.
Custom ROM absolutely no probs with flashing from SD, the HSPL will stay intact, good work on the video ★
CraigBruce said:
OK, problem solved...
Rather than installing the stock ROM via HSPL bootloader I installed HSPL and then ran the RUU exe for the stock ROM. Phone now upgraded
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Ok. I think you were trying to install official ROM. When you install an official rom your bootloader will revert back to SPL...
dragon_soft said:
People please read the HSPL thread properly, once you have installed the HSPL you CANNOT install from SD card you HAVE TO USE THE PC to install any rom images that are not original HTC.
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thats not true. After HSPL you can intall directly from sd card..I have done it almost 100 times.
Ibb1982 said:
I believe Dragon Soft was possibly referring to not using a stock ROM from SD? If I remember correctly flashing a Stock ROM from SD with HSPL on will remove HSPL.
So in other words, if you have HSPL and want to have a stock ROM, it is best install it from the PC when connected via ActiveSync as this won't affect the HSPL.
Custom ROM absolutely no probs with flashing from SD, the HSPL will stay intact, good work on the video ★
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Well if he does mean that then fair enough, I just thought that he meant custom when he said "that are not official" but whatever, sorry for the mis understanding
Ibb1982 said:
So in other words, if you have HSPL and want to have a stock ROM, it is best install it from the PC when connected via ActiveSync as this won't affect the HSPL.
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I got my Leo two days ago, went home, put HSPL on it in the first place, wanted to upgrade the stock ROM, and ended up same as CraigBruce. Really frustrating, thought I'd bricked it. So I re-flashed HSPL and this time a custom ROM and it was back up again.
Now I know that I should have flashed the stock ROM via ActiveSync and not SD card which would have left the HSPL intact. I will definitely remember that for the future
just remember that some people WANT to remove HSPL when installing a stock ROM - e.g. when returning device.
tbh it should have worked with stock ROM and sdcard as leoimg.nbh - it is the way listed in HSPL thread to uninstall after all!!! we dont always want to use customRUU!!!
As from the noob flashing thread
NOTE: The only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from microSD card
* You can also use this method to flash back your Stock Rom and Stock SPL that you originally had on your phone*
VIDEO TUTORIAL: [★] has made a YouTube video to walk people through flashing a Stock SPL via activesync. Find it *HERE*
- Download a shipped Rom from *HERE*
- Rename the extension to .zip
- open it with winzip and extract the RUU_signed.nbh file to a folder
- Rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and copy it to the root of a microSD card thats been formatted to FAT32
- Insert your storage card into your phone
- Enter Bootloader and follow onscreen instructions to flash
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Guys, I had reached the exact same issue with the NOT ALLOW problem. And people, we do read some times (the newbies) and nowhere but here you say that AFTER HSPL YOU MUST NOT UGPRADE FROM MEMORY CARD!!!! And NO it is not included inhere: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Cheers,
and thanks to all the smart people inhere!
D
thug_life_inc said:
Guys, I had reached the exact same issue with the NOT ALLOW problem. And people, we do read some times (the newbies) and nowhere but here you say that AFTER HSPL YOU MUST NOT UGPRADE FROM MEMORY CARD!!!! And NO it is not included inhere: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Cheers,
and thanks to all the smart people inhere!
D
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With hspl installed you CAN flash CUSTOM roms using sd card, it is only flashing OFFICIAL roms through sd card that removes hspl.
sorry to crash this thread but...
i have flashed HSPL on to my HD2 and am now wanting to install HTC's new 1.66 rom.
i have a VF hd2 so i am a little worried i will hit the same issues as the OP did.
can some one hold my hand through flashing the ROM as im a complete noob to this.. i have read the FAQs and im a bit like with all the acronyms etc
adam_r said:
sorry to crash this thread but...
i have flashed HSPL on to my HD2 and am now wanting to install HTC's new 1.66 rom.
i have a VF hd2 so i am a little worried i will hit the same issues as the OP did.
can some one hold my hand through flashing the ROM as im a complete noob to this.. i have read the FAQs and im a bit like with all the acronyms etc
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Use the custom ruu to flash it. Do not put the nbh on the sd. I quote from the "[HSPL]How to flash everything" thread:
4) Uninstallation
Only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from SD card.
- Take any "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ship ROM and copy it to SD card.
- Rename it to "leoimg.nbh"
- Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.
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Why people cant read? refering to the person who started this thread.
No Problem Flashhing to 1.66 on a Voda HD2 with HSPL
I have a voda HD2 and being a total Newbie to the HTC / WM .. I followed the Dummie guide.. (thanx to all, for that.. fantastic..) installed HSPL..and then installed the latest 1.66 from the HTC site using a boggus serial number.. As actual would not let me download it. No problemo..
Feeling a bit more adventureous.. any suggestions for the best 'cooked Rom' ??
From my understanding, you can flash away Stock ROMS using activesync. No need for HSPL.

Cannot downgrade from 2.07 tmus stock rom

Please help... I installed RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.07.531.6_Radio_Signed and im trying now to downgrade to 1.43 and 1.66 stock rom to reinstall hspl and my hd2 stucks in the black htc screen at 0%. I tried both usb and goldcard sd way. Any ideas?
notisz said:
Please help... I installed RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.07.531.6_Radio_Signed and im trying now to downgrade to 1.43 and 1.66 stock rom to reinstall hspl and my hd2 stucks in the black htc screen at 0%. I tried both usb and goldcard sd way. Any ideas?
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Did you flash it from a storage card? Otherwise hspl could't be removed, right?
Looks like you have to consult this thread for a possible solution.
BTW, just wondering, can one flash the new test rom the hspl way from a usb connected pc?
appelflap said:
Did you flash it from a storage card? Otherwise hspl could't be removed, right?
Looks like you have to consult this thread for a possible solution.
BTW, just wondering, can one flash the new test rom the hspl way from a usb connected pc?
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I used both method.
Flashed with usb having HSPL
Flashed with goldcard using SDcard (to have the new SPL)
sigh.. another that 'bite the dust'.
hopefully the other thread's thread starter can really put a note in his thread to alert people that this is not yet another rom that can be flashed and re-flashed by other roms!
zenkinz said:
sigh.. another that 'bite the dust'.
hopefully the other thread's thread starter can really put a note in his thread to alert people that this is not yet another rom that can be flashed and re-flashed by other roms!
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did it... just realized it myself and was searching for a solution...
so we have to wait for hspl 2...
Have you tried Flashing 2.02 using Goldcard + SDcard??
2.02 requiers his own spl 2.0
I think this could be a option.
Flash 2.02 Goldcard-SDcard
Flash 1.66
Flash HSPL
Havn't tested it yet tho.
Anyone dare to test it?
If it fails, I think you can flashback the 2.07 rom.
doesn't work
via sd card it sits on loading, so doesn't appear to recognize the card. if that's so then goldcard wont work.
ill play some more later with formatting the card again, but i think ideally what we need is something to kick in before the spl, in the same way the sspl does.
Gonna download RUU_Leo_Vodafone_UK_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe and copy the rom to my sd card see if I have any luck with that as it is the version my device shipped with.
I didn't change the first 2 digits of my serial to 00 so I am not sure my gold card will work and can't find anywhere to get a new gold card at the moment.
fards said:
doesn't work
via sd card it sits on loading, so doesn't appear to recognize the card. if that's so then goldcard wont work.
ill play some more later with formatting the card again, but i think ideally what we need is something to kick in before the spl, in the same way the sspl does.
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Did you have any luck?
I am stuck with this rom... but at least its fast and stable...
reactivated footprints(working) and ereader tab...
ctman said:
Did you have any luck?
I am stuck with this rom... but at least its fast and stable...
reactivated footprints(working) and ereader tab...
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it's probably a goldcard issue.
Since the new spl, the device name and ID had changed, so now the goldcard for the HD2 doesn't work... Now we need goldcard for the new name/id...
don't think it is goldcard unfortunately
Just some noobies taughts about this please don't kill me.
Could it be possible that 2.07 SPL is on another position and therefore it avoids to flash back to a earlier SPL because the adres is different?
fards said:
doesn't work
via sd card it sits on loading, so doesn't appear to recognize the card. if that's so then goldcard wont work.
ill play some more later with formatting the card again, but i think ideally what we need is something to kick in before the spl, in the same way the sspl does.
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Laurentius26 said:
Just some noobies taughts about this please don't kill me.
Could it be possible that 2.07 SPL is on another position and therefore it avoids to flash back to a earlier SPL because the adres is different?
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hmm... at least its the best explanation...
am still stuck with the 2.07 rom...
and have found a maior iswsue.. sometimes when im using the internet... and the connection changes to edge or lower... (happens in trains) its not able to call me
this happend in other cooked roms when i deactivated 3g...
Laurentius26 said:
Just some noobies taughts about this please don't kill me.
Could it be possible that 2.07 SPL is on another position and therefore it avoids to flash back to a earlier SPL because the adres is different?
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don't think it's that, but we can't discount anything till we work out what they've done..
Cotulla said it may be that HTC have plugged some holes and decided to restrict downgrading. That makes sense to me, but I wish I could think of a way around it (that I could manage), it's way above my level as well
It is possible to reflash the 207 using goldcard (so it's not the goldcard) so it's likely we can go up with the spl numbers with the newer roms if wanted.
I'm hoping that they decide to release 2xx based roms for the rest of the world after the tmous HD2 is out; doubtful but we can hope!

$25 reward to fix my phone. Problems for over 45 days.

I won't bother with the exact history of things but I'll tell you what's on the phone and what I can't get to work.
SPL-2.00. 10000 XE
Radio 2.06.50.04
ROM Leo lite 2.6 WE (21892.5.0.89)
Current ROM works until I try to do anything involving phone radio and then it just locks up. My radio is not up to date for this ROM I assume.
Trying to flash anything at all via LEOIMG microsd card does nothing but sit at the Loading.... screen with never any progress. (I have also tried this with a goldcard that somebody made me and I get the same error.) Have used both a 16gb card and a 2gb card, all formatted to fat32
I am unable to flash a new ROM or new Radio or get the SPL to allow any OEM ROM/SPL package to install via SDcard.
Trying to flash anything with the standard flasher tool and it never did anything but time out. SSPL used to work but now it does nothing but time out. I'm stuck on this ROM, can't change it and phone doesn't work.
What I would like to do is get HSPL back on it, the most current radio and the latest US T-Mobile ROM
If you can help me do this I will pay $25 for the person to help me get it off my phone. There is a chance my goldcard could have been made incorrectly, I don't know anything about them. I can pay you via PayPal or mail you a check, whatever works for you. All I can do is give you my word that I will keep my end of the deal. I'm a 44 year old family man and a department manager of a casino. I would really appreciate any help.
If I posted this in the wrong place please move it but I'm at wits end and just want my phone back to normal.
Edit: Just to be clear, the $25 reward is for getting the SPL 2.0 off of my phone and/or getting me upgraded to the latest radio so I can run the most current TmoUSA ROM properly.
the problem appears to be that you have slightly different hardware to every one else.
didnt realise you were having issues with sspl, that at least should work ok. by time out do you mean there sspl boot screen appears burt nothing else?
if so what happens if you disconnect the usb cable and plug it back in?
if it changes to usb then rerun the sspl without changing anything on the hd2
you could also try - and uninstall the windows drivers for the qualcomm cdma drivers or whatever they are called on you pc. and reconnect in boot loader to let them reinstall.
SSPL used to work, it stopped working after I flashed a newer rom to play with. When I use the SSPL it goes into the bootloader screen just fine, then I hear the USB disconnect sound and the SSPL program times out quickly with the exit button citing no connection.
I have 2 x Windows 7 64 bit computers, 1 x Windows 7 32 bit and one XP 32 bit computer. I get the same results on any of them. All after the most recent ROM upgrade.
I have not tried running SSPL from boot loader screen, did not know that was possible. Trying that now. Just need to download a known working ROM.
If that works I'll be back in the same boat as before, stuck with 2.0 SPL and 2.06 radio. I want that SPL 2.0 off my phone badly.
OK, trying SSPL from the bootloader screen got me a little further towards ROM flashing. I can see the htc on the black screen with the progress bar. It now sits at 0% with no movement indefinitely.
Going to try another ROM and see if I can get the ROM installation to actually begin.
If you still haven't tried it do this: start SSPL when you hear the USB disconnect sound remove the USB cable (either from device or PC) and then connect it again! this should allow the SSPL to enter USB mode! I've had similar problems long ago and this trick was doing the job! Not sure that it will help you but just a thought!
Newb here:
I had something similar. I installed HSPL and everything was fine thereafter. The radio wouldn't flash any other way, in fact it would disconnect like you said, or if I manualy took the phone to boot loader, it would stick at 0%.
There is a HSPL thread stickied in the ROM section and I believe it explains how to remove it if you need to "re" validate your warranty. Although reading once more it does say you need SPL 1.42 to get it to install.
Have you tried installing an official HTC ROM downlaoded from their site? This will take you back to the original SPL version 1.42...
I don't have HSPL on my phone, I have SPL 2.0 Nothing is out currently to remove a later SPL with the exception of flashing an OEM full package ROM through the sd card but that doesn't work for me.
I have tried multiple roms now using SSPL from the bootloader screen and none will move the progress bar past 0%
Still stuck. : - (
Have you tried to hard spl it? If I missed it in your post, I apologize.
Not in a long while, I should try again I guess but I was totally under the impression that HSPL will error all the time unless you have SPL 1.42 installed on the phone.
Edit: Just tried and it errors because SPL 1.42 is not on the phone, it's the only SPL that HSPL works on as far as I know.
balane have you tried installing a stock rom from your SD card? this would revert the spl back to 1.42 and allow you to then flash HSPL (I think, almost certain) but you said you cant do anything with the sd card, have you tried that? have you tried with different SD cards? also have you made sure that it is formatted to FAT32?
Another thing you could try if all else fails: MTTY, look at the MTTY thread by MystikGenius, its stickied in the rom development section, this will format your phone from which you can then try to flash from usb or sd. I would recomend trying to flash from SD which then again may revert your spl.
Im going to school now so I wont be able to help you anymore 8 or so hours, but PM me later if your still stuck.
I may be wrong but from what I read in the threads I thought it was not possible to go back to anything under 2.0 once you flash a 2.0 SPL. You can't flash back to 1.48 or 1.66. You might be able to flash the new TMOUS which is in the 2.0 SPL range.
Yes, I've tried dozens of stock roms from the sdcard, every one I could find in fact and they all hang at the Loading... screen. As stated in the op, I used two different cards both formatted to fat32. I guess I could try a third card, not sure if it's worth a try or not.
I looked at MTTY but that doesn't do a thing with SPL and my SPL is the root of my issues.
Update: I finally did find a ROM I could get flashed via SSPL. It took like 3 tries to get the progress bar going but it did get installed. I can't even recall what series of events got it to go but at least my phone turns on and works.
Still the same SPL and radio though. No change there.
bobsbbq said:
I may be wrong but from what I read in the threads I thought it was not possible to go back to anything under 2.0 once you flash a 2.0 SPL. You can't flash back to 1.48 or 1.66. You might be able to flash the new TMOUS which is in the 2.0 SPL range.
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I could have swore I read some people who were able to get the SPL 2.0 off their phones but I could be mistaken. I'm actually ok with any SPL as long as I can sspl different ROMs. I just want to get the radio current so I can run the latest TmoUS ROM, I would totally and 100% pleased with being able to update the radio. I have found now way to flash a more current radio.
balane said:
I won't bother with the exact history of things but I'll tell you what's on the phone and what I can't get to work.
SPL-2.00. 10000 XE
Radio 2.06.50.04
ROM Leo lite 2.6 WE (21892.5.0.89)
Current ROM works until I try to do anything involving phone radio and then it just locks up. My radio is not up to date for this ROM I assume.
Trying to flash anything at all via LEOIMG microsd card does nothing but sit at the Loading.... screen with never any progress. (I have also tried this with a goldcard that somebody made me and I get the same error.) Have used both a 16gb card and a 2gb card, all formatted to fat32
I am unable to flash a new ROM or new Radio or get the SPL to allow any OEM ROM/SPL package to install via SDcard.
Trying to flash anything with the standard flasher tool and it never did anything but time out. SSPL used to work but now it does nothing but time out. I'm stuck on this ROM, can't change it and phone doesn't work.
What I would like to do is get HSPL back on it, the most current radio and the latest US T-Mobile ROM
If you can help me do this I will pay $25 for the person to help me get it off my phone. There is a chance my goldcard could have been made incorrectly, I don't know anything about them. I can pay you via PayPal or mail you a check, whatever works for you. All I can do is give you my word that I will keep my end of the deal. I'm a 44 year old family man and a department manager of a casino. I would really appreciate any help.
If I posted this in the wrong place please move it but I'm at wits end and just want my phone back to normal.
Edit: Just to be clear, the $25 reward is for getting the SPL 2.0 off of my phone and/or getting me upgraded to the latest radio so I can run the most current TmoUSA ROM properly.
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My English is not good. But I can help you. You can refer here ( in post 18&19) and use google to translate language :
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.p...KHI-UP-ROM-TMOUS-BẢN-TEST-(2-07)-BẰNG-THẺ-NHỚ
I have successfully repaired (with any Goldcard ) HD2 damaged when the flash rom TMOUS with memory card . And now can flash with any rom that is the base rom from 2:07 or higher (with SSPL)
Sorry for my bad English
balane said:
I don't have HSPL on my phone, I have SPL 2.0 Nothing is out currently to remove a later SPL with the exception of flashing an OEM full package ROM through the sd card but that doesn't work for me.
I have tried multiple roms now using SSPL from the bootloader screen and none will move the progress bar past 0%
Still stuck. : - (
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No it won't be SSPL as we know it, the HTC stock ROM you can download from their site (Google "HTC HD2 DOWNLOAD") will use it's own method of getting onto your device and will reload SPL 1.42 for you. Although apparently you may not be able to do this with SPL 2. You say you have done it with a gold card, have you tried the stock rom downloaded from HTC via USB?
Otherwise, pester bepe for when the HSPL comes out that is compatible ywith SPL 2!
ancola66 said:
My English is not good. But I can help you. You can refer here ( in post 18&19) and use google to translate language :
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.p...KHI-UP-ROM-TMOUS-BẢN-TEST-(2-07)-BẰNG-THẺ-NHỚ
I have successfully repaired (with any Goldcard ) HD2 damaged when the flash rom TMOUS with memory card . And now can flash with any rom that is the base rom from 2:07 or higher (with SSPL)
Sorry for my bad English
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Will not allow me to even read the forum because I'm not a member, can you copy paste the pertinent information here please?
You can use ANY goldcard???
mwillems2 said:
No it won't be SSPL as we know it, the HTC stock ROM you can download from their site (Google "HTC HD2 DOWNLOAD") will use it's own method of getting onto your device and will reload SPL 1.42 for you. Although apparently you may not be able to do this with SPL 2. You say you have done it with a gold card, have you tried the stock rom downloaded from HTC via USB?
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I've tried multiple OEM HTC Roms and all give the same stuck at Loading... screen. Is there a specific HTC oem ROM you can recommend I try?
balane said:
Will not allow me to even read the forum because I'm not a member, can you copy paste the pertinent information here please?
You can use ANY goldcard???
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YES ! You can use any Goldcard. I write instructions for you but my very bad English
balane said:
I've tried multiple OEM HTC Roms and all give the same stuck at Loading... screen. Is there a specific HTC oem ROM you can recommend I try?
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When you say oem, do you mean just the nbh with which you have tried to install using tools or the self extracting exe that HTC provide? I'm just asking cos to me, oem means it comes without all the manufacturers extras.
I've always been under the impression that the only way to downgrade an SPL was to install a complete OEM package ROM/Splash/Radio/SPL as a LEOIMG.nbh from the root of the SD card. I've tried dozens of these both from US based ROMs and abroad. None of gone past the Loading.... screen. I've tried 1.42 and above ROMs, no luck with any.

What did I do to my new LEO????

Well I got my new Leo 13 days ago and I've tried to make the stock ROM work to my satisfaction but between the T-Mo junk installed and terrible battery life I decided it was time to try a cooked ROM...
So I read and read and read some more...It's not my first run at this but I wanted to understand everything so I didn't end up with a $449 paperweight.
This morning I download and installed the HSPL-1024....No problems, went just as the instructions said....
I then download a 1024 T-Mo tested/approved Energy Rom and I install it on my LEO.... No problem everything went as it should. I played with the rom and wanted to try another one with a different look so I found another 1024 LEO Rom, the RoMEoS4 or something like that.... Anyway, that install went just fine...
After installing both cooked ROMS I noticed I was having freezing/locking up issues and had to keep soft reseting so after several hours of it locking up I decided to just revert back to the stock T-Mo USA rom.
I then went on here and found the exact shipped rom I had originally (I had documented the versions I had prior to HSPL and the cooked rom's)
http://beta.vbnfiles.com/index.php?...08.50.08_2_Ship.zip&directory=xmoo/Leo/TMOUS&
Instructions on here clearly explained how to revert back (for warranty purposes) so I downloaded the exact stock rom, extracted it to my desktop and renamed the nbh file leoimg.nbh.... I then copied it to a formatted 8gb SDcard and inserted it into the phone.
Instructions said to hold the Volume down botton and the Power button until it boots into the bootloader and then begins to install off the card. I did this exactly and shortly after it began loading off the card it went back to the bootloader and said "Upgrade Rom Code Error, Please try again" it then goes to a gray screen that says "Loading" and stays there...stuck.
Here's a video of what it does when I try to load off the sdcard.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCD_-EuI1_Q
I have no idea what happened or what to do to get it out of this...
Thanks for your time!
Jess
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jessepatty/DSC00314.jpg
Put it into bootloader mode, hook it up to your computer with USB, and run to stock image like you did with the cooked roms. That should flash it back to stock. Then, if you want to take the hspl off, you can just run the hspl program again and change it back to your lod spl. No need to use SD card.
Every time a thread like this pops up, I can't help but wish that the "flash from SD card" method and every reference to it could be eradicated from the collective consciousness of this forum and all unwitting participants who fall into this trap... at least long enough to establish that:
1) it isn't a necessary or preferred method to flash.
2) it has the potential to cause stuff like this to happen.
zarathustrax said:
Put it into bootloader mode, hook it up to your computer with USB, and run to stock image like you did with the cooked roms. That should flash it back to stock. Then, if you want to take the hspl off, you can just run the hspl program again and change it back to your lod spl. No need to use SD card.
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I've tried that several times and it loads the HTC screen but the screen never does anything...stays on 0%
donalgodon said:
Every time a thread like this pops up, I can't help but wish that the "flash from SD card" method and every reference to it could be eradicated from the collective consciousness of this forum and all unwitting participants who fall into this trap... at least long enough to establish that:
1) it isn't a necessary or preferred method to flash.
2) it has the potential to cause stuff like this to happen.
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I got those instructions from a very popular chef on here so I was under the assumption that was the only way to revert back from HSPL
I've learned a valuable lesson here.....Leave it the hell alone!!!!
I'm sweating bullets right now....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6162635&postcount=86
If you can get to the boot loader, then you should be able to fix this pretty easily.
I'd do this:
Get to the boot loader, check the SPL version. Do you have HSPL 2.08?
IF no, install it using HSPL2_1024_RUN, (if you want a custom ROM option), or install the standard SPL if you want to have an "unhacked" HD2, and flash the stock ROM. Done.
IF HSPL 2.08 is installed and you want it like that to install custom ROMs, then I'd do the following, just for good measure:
run MTTY/task29 to clean out all the old stuff (see my sig line)
flash the TMOUS 2.08 Radio
flash a custom TMOUS compatible ROM
jessepatty said:
I got those instructions from a very popular chef on here so I was under the assumption that was the only way to revert back from HSPL
I've learned a valuable lesson here.....Leave it the hell alone!!!!
I'm sweating bullets right now....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6162635&postcount=86
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No, the new version of HSPL (HSPL2_1024_RUN) has an option to re-install the standard SPL. If I wanted to do that, i'd definitely use HSPL2_1024_RUN to do it.
donalgodon said:
If you can get to the boot loader, then you should be able to fix this pretty easily.
I'd do this:
Get to the boot loader, check the SPL version. Do you have HSPL 2.08?
IF no, install it using HSPL2_1024_RUN, (if you want a custom ROM option), or install the standard SPL if you want to have an "unhacked" HD2, and flash the stock ROM. Done.
IF HSPL 2.08 is installed and you want it like that to install custom ROMs, then I'd do the following, just for good measure:
run MTTY/task29 to clean out all the old stuff (see my sig line)
flash the TMOUS 2.08 Radio
flash a custom TMOUS compatible ROM
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Ok thank you....
The SPL reverted back to the original 2.08 SPL when it began the install the stock rom (before it gave me the error) So it does not have the HSPL in it anymore.
I've tried all kinds of different things to fix it but I get an error or no response with everything.
I did try to reinstall the HSPL but when I try I get the below error from the HSPL2 proggie.
Critical Error
Flow 00000003
Error Code 00000004
Discription: BAD MODEL ID
so reinstalling HSPL wont reinstall.....
I believe this is why I've not been able to fix it myself.... I'm usually pretty good with these installs. My Kaiser saw hundreds of new roms if not more and I never ran into this.
Thanks
jessepatty said:
I've tried that several times and it loads the HTC screen but the screen never does anything...stays on 0%
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Make sure you have the sd card out of the phone. So you get into bootloader mode, and you run the rom update from the computer? Maybe try downloading the stock rom again to make sure it's not corrupted. You should be able to flash it from your computer.
Before flashing any rom I would do task29 and completely wipe the internal memory, so you don't have any issues with left over files from the last rom. That is most likely why you started having problems in the first place. I used to think oh I can just flash a rom and it will work like new, but nope I had more problems I could deal with and almost returned the damn thing. Once you know what you are doing WM is a great OS to have and the only other phone I thought even cam eclose toa WM phone was the iPhone anyG, if i'm allowed to say that here. So, task29 first then enter bootloader and the run your customruu with any rom compatible with the TMOUS HD2 1024. Any questions just holla.
jessepatty said:
Ok thank you....
The SPL reverted back to the original 2.08 SPL when it began the install the stock rom (before it gave me the error) So it does not have the HSPL in it anymore.
I've tried all kinds of different things to fix it but I get an error or no response with everything.
I did try to reinstall the HSPL but when I try I get the below error from the HSPL2 proggie.
Critical Error
Flow 00000003
Error Code 00000004
Discription: BAD MODEL ID
so reinstalling HSPL wont reinstall.....
I believe this is why I've not been able to fix it myself.... I'm usually pretty good with these installs. My Kaiser saw hundreds of new roms if not more and I never ran into this.
Thanks
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You should be able to install the T-Mobile Stock rom without needing HSPL I think. Make sure it's the stock rom you have... not a modified or cooked version.
jessepatty said:
Ok thank you....
The SPL reverted back to the original 2.08 SPL when it began the install the stock rom (before it gave me the error) So it does not have the HSPL in it anymore.
I've tried all kinds of different things to fix it but I get an error or no response with everything.
I did try to reinstall the HSPL but when I try I get the below error from the HSPL2 proggie.
Critical Error
Flow 00000003
Error Code 00000004
Discription: BAD MODEL ID
so reinstalling HSPL wont reinstall.....
I believe this is why I've not been able to fix it myself.... I'm usually pretty good with these installs. My Kaiser saw hundreds of new roms if not more and I never ran into this.
Thanks
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I wouldn't give up hope, but.... Worst case: You don't have HSPL installed, so your warranty is still good! Not the best news, I realize.
donalgodon said:
No, the new version of HSPL (HSPL2_1024_RUN) has an option to re-install the standard SPL. If I wanted to do that, i'd definitely use HSPL2_1024_RUN to do it.
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Yeah that's what I used to put the HSPL in it. It's giving me the Critical error now.
I'll search a copy of MTTY and see if it does anything...I don't have a copy of mtty.
zarathustrax said:
Make sure you have the sd card out of the phone. So you get into bootloader mode, and you run the rom update from the computer? Maybe try downloading the stock rom again to make sure it's not corrupted. You should be able to flash it from your computer.
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Thank you, Yes I took it out when it wouldnt load the stock rom off it.
There is no SIM or SD card in it.
No, it's not installing via my computer.....It's still sitting at 0% and been there since I began typing this thread... (30 mins) I thought I may have gotten a bad download so I've re-downloaded the stock rom twice now and still the same thing.... Sits at zero percent.
zarathustrax said:
You should be able to install the T-Mobile Stock rom without needing HSPL I think. Make sure it's the stock rom you have... not a modified or cooked version.
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Here's where I got the stock rom.... Last link in the 1st post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6042320&postcount=1
I got the second one elsewhere on XDA but I can't recall where.
If you can get your phone into bootloader then just do task29. Here is the Mega link.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J3OELQ8I
Once task29 is done, pull your battery out and replace after 10-15 secs. Then enter bootloader again and try the stock or custom rom you want. I have been at the 0% screen before even 70% and 99% and stuck. Mine is the HTC HD2 TMOUS branded and I am currently using the AxLor Leo V9 rom and she works like a dream. Let me know if you need help.
jessepatty said:
Discription: BAD MODEL ID
so reinstalling HSPL wont reinstall.....
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just to double check something, you keep referring to hspl2, and you get bad model ID,, you know hspl2 and hspl1024 are different progs? I'm assuming you have a tmous? you arent trying to run the wrong hspl in your haste/panic are you?
jessepatty said:
Here's where I got the stock rom.... Last link in the 1st post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6042320&postcount=1
I got the second one elsewhere on XDA but I can't recall where.
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ahh ok, that IS the stock rom, but its a repack of the 2.1 rom, not an official .exe/nbh pack. (Well, my kitchen wont import it, says its not official, and it comes with customruu)
However, look for
RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.10.531.0_Radio_Signed_15.34.50.07U_2.08.50.08_2_Ship
which is the packed ship .exe. (and does open as official in the kitchen)
ill submit this, and see if i can find the link.
EDIT - heres a mirror of
RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.10.531.0_Radio_Signed_15.34.50.07U_2.08.50.08_2_Ship.exe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5688401&postcount=159
good luck
samsamuel said:
just to double check something, you keep referring to hspl2, and you get bad model ID,, you know hspl2 and hspl1024 are different progs? I'm assuming you have a tmous? you arent trying to run the wrong hspl in your haste/panic are you?
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I am glad you pointed out this error on my part. I honestly did not know that HSPL2 and HSPL1024 were 2 different programs....
I was merely referring to HSPL1024 as the second version of HSPL....or HSPL2..... I didn't mean to create confusion... sorry about that...
To confirm I am using HSPL-1024
Jess
donalgodon said:
Every time a thread like this pops up, I can't help but wish that the "flash from SD card" method and every reference to it could be eradicated from the collective consciousness of this forum and all unwitting participants who fall into this trap... at least long enough to establish that:
1) it isn't a necessary or preferred method to flash.
2) it has the potential to cause stuff like this to happen.
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so I'm kinda confused...you say that that you shouldn't flash from the sd card. and im sure you know more about this technically speaking than I do but what confuses me is I've been told and read MANY times by people probably more experience than both of us that flashing from your sd card IS the safest way to flash...im not saying your wrong but it concerns me because that is the method I use mainly for convience.but if this has the potential to destroy my very expensive device that I can't afford to replace I would REALLY like to know and know why. if anybody can guide me here why two different stories and maybe some reasons why one method had a higher chance for problems I would really appreciate it =)

[Q] A Challenge for anyone who's up for it

My sincere apologies if this has been posted elsewhere (i can't find a thing and been looking all morning!).
I've ballsed up my HD2. Basically i tried to run sd card dual boot android thingy last night. Radio didn't upgrade as it should have and so anfroid didn't work either. So...today I tried downgrading SPL from 3.033 to 2.08.0000 so i could upgrade radio to be compatiable. To cut a long story short I used the downgrading post to do it and now i have upgrade rom error please try again. One positive note though....stuck on a lovely red green, blue and white screen (bootloader me thinks?) with spl showing as 2.08.0000.
Now....I thought i was slightly above average in terms of genereal public geeky know-how but this has certainly humbled me. I've been through the O SH*T I've bricked it (both me and the phone) and through dam....my wife will kill me, i'm now at denial thinking it will magically sort it self out (which it won't).
So please, apologies for the essay....can some help me out. Please go slow as I really can't do things without step my step instructions.
In a nutshell: can't get past bootlaoder and i wanna go for a poo because of it.
HELP!
Smiley
I have no idea about HD2 but most smartphones would have a recovery option in its PC software suite. Try that if all else fails.
nibras_reeza said:
I have no idea about HD2 but most smartphones would have a recovery option in its PC software suite. Try that if all else fails.
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I'm not sure that would work, plus i don't think I've got the disc (had hd2 for 18months now).
It says:
HX-BC
SPL-2.08 0000 8G XE
MicroP (LED) 0x05
MicroP(TOUCH) 0x30
Tried loading standard rom from htc site but after 1% it crashes.
Crashing your phone is definitely a cure for constipation!
HELP!!! Anyone? Tried HSPL and it didn't work, still stuck at bootloader. Have a bricked it?
You flashed the stock 2.08 SPL instead of Hard SPL. That is why it will not let you load another ROM.
Wil Badger said:
You flashed the stock 2.08 SPL instead of Hard SPL. That is why it will not let you load another ROM.
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Thanks for replying but, pardon my ignorance (i'm not very good at this stuff), how do I resolve this issue? is stock ROM the one that comes with the phone? I've ried putting different SPL through HSPL but stays at 2.08. What am I doing wrong?
thanks in advance
SMILEYSINGH said:
Thanks for replying but, pardon my ignorance (i'm not very good at this stuff), how do I resolve this issue? is stock ROM the one that comes with the phone? I've ried putting different SPL through HSPL but stays at 2.08. What am I doing wrong?
thanks in advance
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The SPL you put on there is stock, meaning locked so you cannot flash custom ROMs.
You need to run HSPL4 again, and flash HSPL 2.08 NOT SPL-2.08 0000.
THEN you can flash whatever the hell you want
Don't flash HSPL 3.03 unless you plan to just use a 3.14 based windows mobile ROM.
just tried that and it stops half way through process and put spl 20.8 0000 on it even though i asked for HSPL. whats wrong with it? any ideas? again, i appreciate your help. is this anything to do with radio (????what is radio??? lol)
now all hspl does is not do as i say, whatever i pick whether it be 2.08 stock and 2.08 hspl (or their 3.03 counterparts) it show spl of 2.08.0000.
to be honest i just want my trusty winmo back so i can make calls, to hell with android (for the moment lol)
Is it regular or tmous?
Regular - 2.x spls arent stock for regular, only tmous uses 2.x as stock, so that may be havjng an effect, though it shouldn't,,,,,
Run hspl2 (note that's hspl2) and choose 1.66.0000
If that takes ok, then go to htc.com and find a rom that your serial allows you to download and flash it.
Tmous - get latest rom from t-mobile.com and flash that. If usb flashing doesn't take try sd card flash.
In both cases if still no luck, try goldcard, pm me an emaik address and your cid and I'll make you one.
You could also try the "chill phone in bag in fridge for half hour before flashing" trick, which if it works means you have overheating issues.
Spl - any spl ending 0000 is a factory spl andwill not allow flashing except that phones stock rom.
just pmed you, dunno if i did it right, hopefully you got it. Unfortunatley hspl2 didn't work either, still 2.08.0000 on there. Can i work with this in any way? ie can i load another rom on rather than revert back to htc rom if it easier? This all began with wanting dual boot android/winmo but its gone belly up lol, still i suppose there are ppl that have bricked phones whch are worse off.
I don't even know how to load another rom! i'm the noob of noobs!
From PM
SMILEYSINGH said:
I'm afraid that hspl2 didn't sort it out either, still shows spl 2.08 0000. Although it does say successful, when booting up it says failed and reverts back to bootloader. Should i be pressing any buttons while it boots up (i'm not - only vol down key when i need usb port to work).
Could i have a goldcard please? What is a goldcad and how do i use it? I haven't a clie as you can see. MY email is ***********.
I really appreciate your time, I understand you must be busy.
Thanks again
Smiley
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ah i was afraid of it not working, , next i would suggest try hspl4, choosing 3.03.hspl or 3.03.0000, though again, i suspect the same thing,,, no change.
No real answer as to why it does that, i suspect a bad nand (memory) block, perhaps some memory flag that needs to be set but gets corrupted, , or something.
All i can suggest is trying hspl2,3 and 4 to try and change the spl to anything, , you have a regular hd2, so theres no problem, it should take any spl.
Goldcard is basically a magic sd card that makes the phone think it is in the factory, and lets you flash any STOCK rom from any region and carrier, and the phone will accept it as its correct rom. You can make them from any 4gb or smaller sd card, but i need teh CID (unique serial) of that sd card to send you the image which you write to the disk.
Problem is, getting the CID, , if you have another windows mobile phone you can use for 5 minutes that takes sd cards) then you are laughing, if you don't then you may be in trouble (although again, this is pretty unlikely to work if you really do have the stuck spl/radio problem, so if you cant make a goldcard dont lose any sleep)
Anyway, if you can get hold of a running winmo phone and connect it to your pc, then have a read HERE
http://samsamuel.co.uk/news.php?id=8
If you cant get hold of a winmo phone, then you will have to google on how to find sd cid without winmo phone, , , ,get ready for an evenings reading and frustration!
SMILEYSINGH said:
Can i work with this in any way? ie can i load another rom on rather than revert back to htc rom if it easier?
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No, only stock roms will flash on 0000 spl's.
your phone, if acting normally, should always take the correct stock rom, but i have myself had issues flashing a correct stock rom when i left spl as 2.08.0000, until i downgraded to spl 1.66.0000, however the dowbgrade worked, whereas yours isnt taking.
As for which rom should always flash, go HERE and the second one down is t mo UK. If your serial gets rejected when you try to dfownload it, then its not the correct rom for that phone.
Download that, and rename teh file from filename.exe to filename.zip, then open the zip, inside is a bunch of files, one is called RUU_signed.nbh, extract that and rename it to leoimg.nbh and put it on your sd card (4gb or smaller, formatted FAT32) and reboot your phone into bootloader, where it should start to flash.
thanks for all your help.
At the moment its stuck on loading...has been for 15min, i think i'll reset it. I did manage to get it on another spl earlier this afternoon but it was 3.03 and i didn't think that was any good for me so changed it back. i'll keep trying to get a hspl on it, i take it that after that i can put any rom on it (cooked).
I'll try my wife's touch and see if i can make a goldcard.
Thanks again, let you know what happens.
jusr reset it and spl 1.66 is on there but only flashes up for a second before a white loading scren comes up. reset it a few times after that and still no joy. htc rom won't connect to it!
its working! the sd card was still in the phone and i had put something on there this morning (think it was a radio or something which caused loading screen to occur) windows just lkoadiong now, hopefully it will work. I'm still up for android dual booth tho lol. if this all works then i think i might wait. Samsamuel, i really appreciate your help in all this!
Thanks again!
Smiley
ps anyone readinf this...if in doubt just keep trying hsdp until u can do it in ur sleep, i must have done it 50 times today
Ah yea, leaving an inage on the card,,, bet you don't make that mistake again, hehe.

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