I'm having ridiculous battery life. I fully charged my phone and unplugged it around 2AM today only to wake up 6 hours later and finding the phone dead.
When I first picked it up yesterday I fully charged it and went to work and it was dead by the time I came back.
I could understand heavily using it, but it was basically on standby 90 percent of the time while at work, and 100 percent while I slept.
The only thing I could be thinking of is that it keeps switching between 4G and 3G.
Any suggestions? Any chance of it being a bad battery?
Turn off 4G if you're in spotty coverage. If its on but not in 4G, it will boost its power to search for a 4G network.
also, you most likely need a task manager - the bloatware on this runs about 20 tasks in the background prior to running anything.
A friend of mine had the same issue with his HD2. He stated that he drained and charged the battery about 6-8 times and now his battery lasts a day and a half. I am trying the same thing with my EVO.
Also give it a couple charges to let it cycle, it'll get better, use the power management widget to manually adjust brightness also
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ive not had any problems with my phone 3/4 of a charge when i went to work last night and after 8 hrs of off and on usage i still had a little under a 1/4th of battery left...
this was email, music, web browsing, installing apps, and being on standby
Getting decent battery life here. i have wifi turned on most of the day which helps save power usage.
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Turn off 4G if you're in spotty coverage. If its on but not in 4G, it will boost its power to search for a 4G network.
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That's what I was thinking. I'm going to keep it off today to see how it does.
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Also give it a couple charges to let it cycle, it'll get better, use the power management widget to manually adjust brightness also
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Hopefully it will get better with cycling but the brightness didn't have any factor in it. Like i said, it was fully charged before going to sleep and it was on standby and couldn't make it 6 hours with no activity whatsoever.
Like stated above, I think it was constantly going from 4G -> 3G->Searching for 4G-> 4G-> repeat over and over.
4G smore-g, Sprint's 3G coverage should be good enough for most web surfing. Having used AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, and Sprint. I think Sprint has the fastest browser surfing over 3G followed by Verizon. I'm thinking leave 4G off until you need to tether or stream a movie.
On my G1 (which I'm leaving behind for the Evo, shortly), T-Mobile is so slow I could probably make a dial-up app and get pages quicker.
As for all the apps running in the background, I'm sure a few devs will grace us with some stripped down ROMs soon enough.
Batteries get better after a few cycles as well. It will get better, don't worry.
Post your awake time from Spare Parts. I had an awful issue on the stock ROM until I rooted and removed all of the bloatware.
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look through my thread and disable the apps and you'll see better battery improvement
I got my EVO from Sprint 8am yesterday, I charged it full when I got home and it lasted 26 hours with moderate usage (web surfing, downloading apps, playing around). This was about what I'd get out of Hero! I was shocked, I was afraid I'd only get 8-ish from some reviews I read.
I let it die down completely to where it turned off and charged it back up with it being off. I'll be doing this for the first week I have the phone, and we'll see if it increases battery even more!
You just got the phone; the battery's not going to be stellar right out of the box. Condition it a bit to break it in, as everybody else on this thread has said. That's probably why all of these reviewers are complaining about the battery; they only use it for a day or two without allowing the battery to reach its true potential.
4g, gps and bluetooth need to be turned off unless needed. Throw some of the widgets on a home screen its easy enough to turn them on and off.
Rooting and removing the bloat helps. Make sure you set the interval for you social networking to something reasonable the same with the mail app and news rss.
All that junk eats juice.
Do the live backgrounds eat a lot of juice? I have the moving starts one. I fully charged my batter at midnight and by 10am with phone screen off, no use all night, it was half used. When I used advance task killer, there were 21 apps running, damn. When i reboot phone, there was a ton of apps that auto start.
Is there a way to shut down those from autostarting or is root the only way?
also, is using another wall charger ok? I have a motorola charger that was for my q9h that seems to work fine, but I don't want to fry the evo.
I was actually curious about the standby battery usage and left my phone on overnight after being fully charged. After about ~8 hours the phone still had 72% battery left.
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Do the live backgrounds eat a lot of juice? I have the moving starts one. I fully charged my batter at midnight and by 10am with phone screen off, no use all night, it was half used. When I used advance task killer, there were 21 apps running, damn. When i reboot phone, there was a ton of apps that auto start.
Is there a way to shut down those from autostarting or is root the only way?
also, is using another wall charger ok? I have a motorola charger that was for my q9h that seems to work fine, but I don't want to fry the evo.
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I've never had any problems with the live wallpaper eating battery. I've been using it since May 26th.
Aridon said:
4g, gps and bluetooth need to be turned off unless needed. Throw some of the widgets on a home screen its easy enough to turn them on and off.
Rooting and removing the bloat helps. Make sure you set the interval for you social networking to something reasonable the same with the mail app and news rss.
All that junk eats juice.
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From my experience Android actually uses GPS really well and it only turns on when you really need it, I've never noticed a huge increase or decrease by turning it on or off. The other stuff seems to be very true, though I still haven't gotten a task killer or rooted and I seem to be doing pretty well..
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How has everyone's battery life been with the Vibrant? I'm having a few issues with mine, I barely used my phone today, and its down to 57%, with cell standby taking up 33% of the battery.
Search the threads.seriously there are like 5000 battery life threads
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So is there a fix for it? Or is it all samsungs fault? Or will the update solve it? This sucks, my battery can loose 30 percent in a matter of 2 hours...
Your battery has and always will react to the way you use it. If you a new user and play with it all day then its going to go fast. If you use 3g, wifi, bright screen you are going to get crappy battery life.
If you use it like a normal person with 6 to 10 calls a day, light web usage, some text messages you should get a battery to last you all day.
Fire up the screen and watch videos or listen to mp3's all day well then your not.
I turned off every little thing, and i still get crappy battery. Wifi off, gps off, sync off, wallpaper off, the whole shabang.
Does your phone actually die, or does it just show a percentage you are unhappy with?
The measurement seems to be a bit off on the Vibrant.
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I was disappointed woth my battery life as well. But I wiped the phone and the battery performs better in my mind. Anyone else have a similar experience?
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After discharging/conditioning it a couple times, my battery is much better. 9 hours of standby overnight, it only lost 10% battery. That's pretty good IMO.
I just unplugged my phone an hour ago, watched some videos, browsed the web and my battery is down to 86%. It dropped 14% in less than an hour!
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Is this your first smart/android phone? Your battery doesn't sound far off for an high end smart phone.you'll eventually learn how to extend the battery, especially after the newness wears off and your not playing with it 24/7 like most of us right now.remember this is an extremely high end phone, it takes a lot of juice to run the high end chip set.if you buy a high performance sports car do you expect to have some fun with it and get 30+mpg doing so? You've gotta understand what you've got. Soon enough there will be extended batteries available and if your willing to root, many devs are capable if tweaking the os to get the most out of the battery without hampering speed our features.
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How has everyone's battery life been with the Vibrant? I'm having a few issues with mine, I barely used my phone today, and its down to 57%, with cell standby taking up 33% of the battery.
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I'm having major issues too. Down to 28%(down to 25% now just typing this message) after 3 hours this morning. I just powered off and back on and I went from 50% down to 28%
Here we go again g1 all over again Seems like the only way to keep power is to uninstall everything.
I'm also seeing cell standby as a possible issue.
Frustrated... Guess it's time to reset to see if one of my apps is the issue...
I have 35 percent left after being off of the charger for 1 day and 5 hours. This is with light to moderate use, meaning some browsing, some phone calls, some market downloads, about 20 minutes of gaming, syncing, and reading e-mails. Of course my mileage varies if use the phone more. When the phone is about to die I'll snap a pic to share how long a full charge has lasted me.
Already this battery is lasting me 2-3x longer than the G1.
I tried a different battery and it's been really good to me =)
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I have 35 percent left after being off of the charger for 1 day and 5 hours. This is with light to moderate use, meaning some browsing, some phone calls, some market downloads, about 20 minutes of gaming, syncing, and reading e-mails. Of course my mileage varies if use the phone more. When the phone is about to die I'll snap a pic to share how long a full charge has lasted me.
Already this battery is lasting me 2-3x longer than the G1.
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What percent do you show for "cell standby" from setting->about phone->battery use? I'm starting to think that my poor reception area is my issue.
I think the battery percentage shown in the Status is off compared to what is shown on the battery icon. That said, my battery lasts all day with normal use. If i use the web more than normal, of course the battery goes faster but still i usually get all day out of it. May have to charge it some in the evening.
Was hoping it would be better like the iPhone 4 battery seems to be. It is said that 2.2 will have a bit battery life but we'll see. Believe it when i see it.....if we ever get the update
My wife and I got Vibrants at the same time. She was getting great battery life, around 70% by the end of they day, and I was dying just after 1pm. I assumed that i had a defective phone, but decided to wipe it and try running "stock" prior to returning it for a new one.
After wiping the phone and starting over, I'm getting much better battery life, but I think that it's because I didn't use "push" email. I have a corporate Exchange email/calendar/contacts account, and before I had it set to 'push" (or something like that, my phone is syncing DoubleTwist right now, so I can't check. ) When I re-setup my email account, I told it to check only every 15 minutes.
My battery life has been much better this time around, and I think the email sync setting is 1/2 the reason, the other half being that T-Mobile coverage isn't great where I've been the last week. I'm guessing that the "push" sync meant that the phone needs to keep a data link to the server, which is fine if you have strong coverage. When it's weak, then the radio has to work overtime trying to maintain a link, which drains the battery.
I'm going to try this out today and tomorrow, and if the battery life is better than I'll keep it rather than try trading for a new one.
For one, if you're having a battery issue, buy a charger or spare battery. Get a task manager to kill your apps after a certain time and check into what services are running in the background. Just cause you're not playing with the phone doesn't mean its not running or using the battery.
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What percent do you show for "cell standby" from setting->about phone->battery use? I'm starting to think that my poor reception area is my issue.
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Cell Standby is at 24 percent.
Maybe its some quality control issue in the batteries? Everyone is getting such varied battery performance. I'm thinking of calling T-Mobile and requesting a new battery.
I notice on reboots many apps get started automatically. I've gotten better battery life just by manually shutting them down with astro file manager app. Ultimately any time an app is running even if its not using cpu cycles it still costs power to keep it in ram. Manually shutting down will minimize this obviously.
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Only thing I did different was turned on google talk and my battery went from 100% down to 24% in 4.5 hours. Could google talk really take up that much battery? Prior usage I would get over 18 hours, thats with texting, emails and a couple of voice calls. Previously under the battery use the screen was always at the top but now the Android system is at the top.
Guess my main question is could google talk hit the battery that hard?
Did you recently root? Mine seems much worse since rooting.
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No root, just turned on google talk
velocd said:
No root, just turned on google talk
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There you go. Gtalk must be accessing the internet often which is causing the drain in battery.
I have noticed if I leave a page open on Google Buzz, the GPS radio can drain the battery quick.
Another reason why I want to have a development ROM with all those nice troubleshooting tools to catch these problems quicker. Like before the battery is dead.
I have similarly awful battery life on the Vibrant, and I've been running GTalk 24/7 since I purchased the phone. Going to run it with no GTalk today to see it affects life. I'll post my results here later.
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Did you recently root? Mine seems much worse since rooting.
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I'm rooted and I still have 23% battery after 29 hours unplugged. Any other apps you got running in the background killing your battery?
After I rooted I didn't add back the Facebook and other accounts that keep the contacts updated with their status and whatnot. I get a full 24 hours out of a charge now so I am really pleased with the battery life.
I am running mine rooted, gTalk on, google sync and one exchange push sync always on, "Twitter" twitter app updating @ 30min., LauncherPro, live wallpaper, gps on standby, and I have to say coming from G1, 3G Slide, HD2, this has the best battery life so far. Not playing any games on it, nor any media streaming aside from the occasional few minutes.
Now, it has only been two days running it that way, but one can hope it stays like this! Running it unplugged from 7am to 1:30am (next day) and still having 45% battery left after a day of medium heavy use is pure bliss!
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I am running mine rooted, gTalk on, google sync and one exchange push sync always on, "Twitter" twitter app updating @ 30min., LauncherPro, live wallpaper, gps on standby, and I have to say coming from G1, 3G Slide, HD2, this has the best battery life so far. Not playing any games on it, nor any media streaming aside from the occasional few minutes.
Now, it has only been two days running it that way, but one can hope it stays like this! Running it unplugged from 7am to 1:30am (next day) and still having 45% battery left after a day of medium heavy use is pure bliss!
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Was your phone in your pocket or out indoors on a counter all day?
mnotz said:
I am running mine rooted, gTalk on, google sync and one exchange push sync always on, "Twitter" twitter app updating @ 30min., LauncherPro, live wallpaper, gps on standby, and I have to say coming from G1, 3G Slide, HD2, this has the best battery life so far. Not playing any games on it, nor any media streaming aside from the occasional few minutes.
Now, it has only been two days running it that way, but one can hope it stays like this! Running it unplugged from 7am to 1:30am (next day) and still having 45% battery left after a day of medium heavy use is pure bliss!
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im sorry but i am every good with phones and adjusting the battery drain and this seems terribly inaccurate unless you pick up your phone once an hour and use it. There is no way you have almost 50 percent better left on this device while running all of that stuff. and you have it on 3g? or edge? is the screen bright?
overall the battery has been TERRIBLE. and it takes forever to charge. that's why i sent it back. I hate USB charger cords... seems they take loner to charge.
much love u must have an extended battery which isnt even out yet lol
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Was your phone in your pocket or out indoors on a counter all day?
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lmao lool same thing i asked loool
Well, it was google talk that was doing it. I work in a large building and get about 2-3 bars of service which isn't bad but leaving google talk on literally raped my battery.
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After I rooted I didn't add back the Facebook and other accounts that keep the contacts updated with their status and whatnot. I get a full 24 hours out of a charge now so I am really pleased with the battery life.
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Thats an awesome idea!!! Facebook sync is almost retarded to have on this phone since im not running TW or looking through my contacts to check on ppl... there is no reason why I should even have to keep the account synced. The service is still probably running in the background and dropping/retrying. Thanks!!!
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Well, it was google talk that was doing it. I work in a large building and get about 2-3 bars of service which isn't bad but leaving google talk on literally raped my battery.
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AWESOME! Thank you OP for testing and bringing us back your findings. This is how it should be done!
I've had my Vibrant since roll-out day. The battery seemed to be working well and lasting a long time. Then it began to drain rapidly going from a full charge to under 25% in about 4.5 hours. This happens with or without use. I tried disabling sync, wi-fi, push, bt, etc and I didn't see any improvement to speak of. I also set it to use 2G networks only. That was all before rooting yesterday. Today it's no better at all so rooting doesn't seem to have had any effect.
As far as charging goes- it's horrible (mains, not computer); over 4 hours from completely dead (auto-shutdown) to 100%. Even if I begin charging at 35% it still takes over 3 hours to get to 100%.
What does all this mean? Beats me. I like the phone and I am hoping it's not a hardware issue. My rooted G1 with an extended life battery running Froyo lasted all day long with constant data use, go figure.
I'll be watching the forums over the next several days with the hope that something will break loose.
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im sorry but i am every good with phones and adjusting the battery drain and this seems terribly inaccurate unless you pick up your phone once an hour and use it. There is no way you have almost 50 percent better left on this device while running all of that stuff. and you have it on 3g? or edge? is the screen bright?
overall the battery has been TERRIBLE. and it takes forever to charge. that's why i sent it back. I hate USB charger cords... seems they take loner to charge.
much love u must have an extended battery which isnt even out yet lol
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Nope, just a stock Vibrant battery. Phone lays next to me on my desk at the office all day, bounces between Edge and 3G here, currently, 2:16pm, the battery status in the phone settings shows a level of 76%, was unplugged this morning @ around 7:30. At my house I have full bars 3G. Battery use is 35% Voice Calls, 28% Display, 18% Cell standby, 13% Phone idle, 3% Android system and 2% Android OS.
I am not much into adjusting battery drain or anything like you, but those are the readings from the phone. How accurate they are or not, no idea, but this is definitely the best smartphone I ever owned concerning the battery life. And I owned a **** ton of them over the years. But I also don't complain too much, because getting through a full day is all I need.
Screen is set to auto-brightness with the application brightness thingy activated.
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Edit: Reading my original post, I guess it could be a bit confusing - I did not mean it has lasted for two days like this - I meant I own the phone only for two days, and it was unplugged yesterday from 7am to 1:30am next day (18.5h)
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lmao lool same thing i asked loool
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It is a legit question. On my N1 and this phone I see HUGE differences in battery when the device is in heat/pocket and inside just sitting on a counter.
Hey guys,
Just got my Epic yesterday.. coming from the G1 with lots of experience loading and tweaking ROMs and dealing with same/similar battery issues.
After unpacking the Epic I used it and let it drain down to zero before recharging it; after a full recharge, I loaded up the 7 screens with widgets and ran a live wallpaper (fish). I didn't really use the phone much at all and the phone went from 100% battery down to zero in the span of only four hours!!! Geeze, you've got to be kidding me - four hours battery life?? WTF????!!
Back to the drawing board: I rooted it and ran SetCPU with some power saving profiles. Removed the live wallpaper and went to stock wallpaper. Set display power off at 30 seconds. Note that 4G remains off since there's no 4G in my area..
Couple of questions:
1. Is there any way to toggle 2G/3G like there was on my old G1? I know that was a power saver.
2. I didn't stop to read all the documentation yet (typical male, I know) but is there any way to wake this thing up from sleep mode besides pressing the power button? I can see that power button breaking for as much use as it's getting from me constantly having to wake this thing up!
3. My brightness setting is set to auto - since the display is usually the biggest drain on these things, is there a recommended manual brightness setting (percentage) that seems to work well for you and saves on battery power?
I'm waiting for the Seideo Extended Battery (just like many of you) and am wondering if I should keep the Epic since I'm on the Sprint 30-day Easy Return program.
Appreciate hearing from everyone!
Chris R.
I don't have 4G where I am. But, I have a all black wallpaper(uses less power) and unrooted. I easily get about 12-18hr out of my phone wit normal use(text, talk, and surfing the net with skyfire). Only thing that really kills my battery are games(Robo Defense can take over 30min to play one game).
Thanks for the reply - situation NOT improving
Thanks for the reply.. unfortunately, the situation is not improving...
I tried setting a Sleep Profile using SetCPU that would under-clock the CPU (using the stock kernel) once the screen dimmed and the phone went into Sleep Mode. Unfortunately, as mentioned in another thread here, the result was that the phone froze and required a battery-pull to reset.
I'm really starting to lose my enthusiasm for this device; as beautiful a display and as responsive a CPU/GPU, all of that doesn't mean much if you don't have good power management built into the firmware. At 6PM this evening I pulled it off the charger at 67% charged, it's now 8:35 PM, only 2.5 hours later and I'm down to 22%. I'm in a decent coverage area and get 2-4 bars of 3G strength so I don't think it's an issue of the radio being the culprit; in-fact if you check the battery stats it reports that that lovely Display is accountable for 78% of the battery usage! So I guess we're paying a hefty price for these 4-inch AMOLED displays!
I read somewhere else that the most recent update (DI07) has caused the battery performance to decrease; since my unit is brand-new it immediately went and installed DI07 shortly after the first boot-up so I have nothing to compare it to.. can anyone comment on that?
Thanks!
Chris R.
I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work). Other than that, yes, use black wallpaper, lower brightness to the min. in the OS and browser, and don't leave apps that constantly use 3G open (things like ebuddy, pandora, etc.). 3G really destroys battery life so minimal use of 3G data would maximize battery life. Maybe the devs can figure out a way to get at least one full day of battery life on this phone. I'm hoping that is the case.
As to your post, yes, DI07 has resulted in poorer battery life, for whatever reason. I was definitely getting a few hours more with the older firmware. I would not lose hope yet. As disappointed as you are (and all of us are, I can assure you of that), the devs are really starting to push out nice ROMs already, and in a few weeks to a month, I bet we will see some solid battery life. Hell, even 2.2 should yield much better results. Patience
Thanks for the tip!
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I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work).
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Thanks for the reply! Also thanks for the tip regarding JuiceDefender! What a great app! will give it some more time and report results back here.
Thanks again!
Chris R.
nimaim said:
I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work). Other than that, yes, use black wallpaper, lower brightness to the min. in the OS and browser, and don't leave apps that constantly use 3G open (things like ebuddy, pandora, etc.). 3G really destroys battery life so minimal use of 3G data would maximize battery life. Maybe the devs can figure out a way to get at least one full day of battery life on this phone. I'm hoping that is the case.
As to your post, yes, DI07 has resulted in poorer battery life, for whatever reason. I was definitely getting a few hours more with the older firmware. I would not lose hope yet. As disappointed as you are (and all of us are, I can assure you of that), the devs are really starting to push out nice ROMs already, and in a few weeks to a month, I bet we will see some solid battery life. Hell, even 2.2 should yield much better results. Patience
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DI07 has hurt my battery life substantially. In fact, my battery drains very close to twice as fast now with the update. I don't understand what they did. My phone certainly doesn't seem any faster, my display is dimmer, and battery life sucks. I'm going to have to go back to DG27 so I can use my phone all day. With DI07 it always dies on me by mid afternoon. With DG27 it was still running by 11pm at night without even a battery low warning.
juice defender ftw
also, use advanced task killer with low security settings to kill all the background processes. Set the autokill to when the screen turns off. This keeps everything pretty well managed and helps with battery as well
JUICE DEFENDER BATTERY!!! Saved my phone from flying out of my car window at 10 in the morning........
here is a link to a thread I started.
Sharing my juice defender settings. I also use ultimate juice.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/133933-sharing-my-juice-defender-settings.html
I can get a day and a half (or slightly longer) out of a single charge.
YMMV.
Hope this helps
Advanced task killer + Juice Defender. You could also get some custom roms and Kernals that would help boost it.
But that's your best hope. Keep off 4g, wifi, bluetooth, etc.
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DI07 has hurt my battery life substantially. In fact, my battery drains very close to twice as fast now with the update. I don't understand what they did. My phone certainly doesn't seem any faster, my display is dimmer, and battery life sucks. I'm going to have to go back to DG27 so I can use my phone all day. With DI07 it always dies on me by mid afternoon. With DG27 it was still running by 11pm at night without even a battery low warning.
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Look here- try stopping the DRM service and see if that helps your battery life with D107
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Look here- try stopping the DRM service and see if that helps your battery life with D107
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Ah, the evils of DRM can strike in unexpected ways...
I wasn't really having a battery problem but I just turned DRM off, so we'll see if battery life improves anyway.
I had a whole long post here that got wiped with the xda disk array failure, so I'll just sum that up here too:
1) Use wi-fi if possible - it REALLY helps
2) 4G does not seem to use the battery any more than 3G, although hunting for 4G does and 4G coverage is not as extensive as 3G even in 4G areas. So it's still best to leave it off if you're moving around.
3) Dim your screen and use a dark, static background. AMOLED screens don't work like LCD's; they use more power the more pixels are lit and the brighter they are.
4) GPS also kills your battery - leave that off unless you need it too.
I think that's it. I get about 18 hours on DI07 (even before trying the DRM thing; maybe I can get to a full day!).
One thing I'm noticing after checking DRM - I've got Google Maps' LocationService popping up about every 10 seconds, and I can't seem to shut it off permanently. (I went into Lattitude and turned that off, not sure what else to do.) That can't be helping... anyone know how to get rid of that?
I'm using juice defender and a constant email junkie, but lite use on other aspects of the phone. It goes off charger at 5:30 am and I'm about 67% at around 3p. It then goes in the car charger on the way home. This has much better battery life than the Pre or the Hero as with both I had to turn off email to get it to last throughout the day.
I don't expect these phones to last days, but I expect any phone that I get to last the business day. I've always been one to charge overnight.
Wifi drains battery more from what I've read.
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I've heard the opposite that wifi (as long as it's connected) uses up less battery than 3g/4g. Any of them will suck the battery dry if they're searching, so make sure you have a connection to one of them.
Hi everyone, new to the forum. Just started checking it out when the Epic was released and this is my first post. Anyways, here's my question. My phone's been off the charger for 7 hours and 17 minutes and it is now down to 15%.
Display 79%
Cell standby 7%
Android System 4%
Phone idle 2%
Swype 2%
I've gone into the display settings and I thought I had set everything up optimally. The brightness is always very low. The screen timeout is 15 seconds and the keyboard matches that. I don't know what else I can do to cripple the phone to get the battery to last longer.
I have had wifi on, 4g off, bluetooth off, gps off. Really all I have done this afternoon while watching NFL games is check my yahoo fantasy score, play 2 games of WordFeud, and check twitter and facebook. I purchased Juice Defender a week ago and it has been running all day.
Any suggestions for how I can reduce the drain from the display? My background is a black and white picture of a friend of mine, which I thought would help.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone. But the battery life I've seen is just terrible. I'd love to buy the extended battery from Seidio whenever its available, at least that would make it last longer even if the settings aren't tweaked.
Do you have juice defender installed?
Yep. Its installed and running now.
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bagelicious said:
Hi everyone, new to the forum. Just started checking it out when the Epic was released and this is my first post. Anyways, here's my question. My phone's been off the charger for 7 hours and 17 minutes and it is now down to 15%.
Display 79%
Cell standby 7%
Android System 4%
Phone idle 2%
Swype 2%
I've gone into the display settings and I thought I had set everything up optimally. The brightness is always very low. The screen timeout is 15 seconds and the keyboard matches that. I don't know what else I can do to cripple the phone to get the battery to last longer.
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There are only two reasons for your display to be using that much battery:
a) it's too bright, or
b) you're using it a lot.
If you're using the phone a lot, your battery's going to run out pretty quick and there's no way around that. If you're using it a "normal" amount, which to me means maybe an hour *total* per day of having the display on, then the other culprit is going to be your brightness. (Some would argue that's less than a normal amount, but think about it... you get a new phone, you're going to play with it for a week or two until you've seen all the cool stuff. But at some point you're going to start putting it away most of the time and just using it when someone calls you, you get a message/email or maybe to play a game or two while waiting for the train.)
Set your brightness *all* the way down, just as a test for a couple days. Make sure all the "power saving" features of the display are turned *off* (auto brightness, and whatever that "picture detection" feature's called, I can't remember). You just want the display as dim as possible all the time, just to see what happens. See what the battery usage says after a day or two of this.
My bet is that you'll see a drop, and then as you get into a more normal usage pattern it'll drop further still. You can raise the brightness a couple ticks then as you learn how to stretch your battery out.
Personally, my display is rarely over 15% or so of my usage. Today it's 29%, but it's a Sunday and I don't have anything better to do but play around on my phone.
btw, it's still the first day I've tried this but that DRM thing might be working. It's almost 9PM and I'm still on like 80% battery, and like I said I have been using the phone off and on throughout the day.
That has helped tremendously. I installed it pretty much when I got the phone and I'm able to last the whole work day with 67% left. (10 hour day)
I'm hitting 41 hours and still have 19% battery life. I noticed it took around 10 full charges before my phone started to get this great battery life. I've been using it as normal and even listened to howard stern for a couple of hours yesterday. Talked on the phone a bunch of times around 30 texts and even used my 4g for a few minutes. I've never had an andorid phone last this long for me even when I had my Optimus S which I thought was awesome.
Anyone else getting this awesome battery life? I'll post screen shots when its about dead as I dont want to plug the phone into usb to get the pics.
Charging twice a day here. Its worse than my hero.
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Zardos66 said:
Charging twice a day here. Its worse than my hero.
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I would investigate as that shouldnt be. My shift lasts almost 2.5x my hero. I bet if I had your phone in front of my I could find out whats killing it soo fast.
Is your phone getting hot? I would do a full system wipe and start over from scratch and see if it doesnt get better after you try the things I've listed below. Note, I didnt have this great of battery life until 6 days after I purchased the phone and charged and discharged numerous times. The first few days the battery life was not good at all.
A little list of things to do, check and or disable;
1. Use spare parts and find out whats killing your battery ie partial wake usage, cpu etc.
2. Turn your window animations from all to only some animations
3. Turn off automatic display and keep it around 20-30%
4. I have auto sync off on all my appz (E-mail, Gmail, Facebook etc.). I update my E-mail and such manually.
5. Turn off data when not using it. I find data accounts for around 15-25% of juice used and thats just when on idle.
6. Only use widgets on the homescreen if you really have to (Running widgets use a lot of power over time)
7. Use Android Hackers tool from the market and it will break down how long your cpu was in a certain state. ie my cpu spent 65% at 245mhz and 28% at 806mhz.
8. Keep off 4G, Bluetooth, wirless networks for location and GPS if not using it (GPS uses less power than wireless networks and is more accurate anyway) I assigned Quick Settings to open when I hold down the search button. That makes it easy to enable/disable any of these setting within seconds.
9. Turn off google talk and make sure it doesnt sign in automatically (most people dont realise this)
10. Turn screen timeout to 15 or 30 seconds (if longer your phone can keep the display on accidentally while in your pocket if a button is pressed, wasting power)
11. Dont use a task killer unless its to kill an app you know drains your battery and therefore must be closed to save juice
12. Check your apps. Some apps keep using cpu etc because they were not programed correctly. (some appz I've found to drain my battery are; Yahoo Mail, Craigslist, AndTorrent and the market if a download is hung up. There are a few others I cant remember off the top of my head) If your phone is getting hot for no apparent reason this may be the cause.
13. Calibrate your battery by bump charging (charge your phone till its full while on, turn it off and charge till its full again. Then bump charge it around 5-7 times) Wipe battery stats if applicable. If you have a car charger, plug your phone in on the way to work to account for the little bit of drain that occurs once the phone is fully charged yet still on the charger.
Remember you can get china made batteries for very cheap. I paid $12 for 2 batteries and a wall charger off ebay. This phone uses the same batteries as the Hero and Evo by the way.
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I would investigate as that shouldnt be. My shift lasts almost 2.5x my hero. I bet if I had your phone in front of my I could find out whats killing it soo fast.
I noticed Yahoo mail and Craigs list apps I downloaded from the market have a memory/cpu leak that kills your phone super fast.
Is your phone getting hot? I would do a full system wipe and start over from scratch and see if it doesnt get better. Note to that I didnt have this great of battery life until 6 days after I purchased the phone. The first few days the battery life was not good at all.
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yahoo mail DESTROYED my battery life on my hero so i havent used it in forever...sad to see it still had that problem....also I stopped using any battery widgets that show the exact percentage (as these are usually wrong anyway) and went back to using stock browser (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)....i now check my battery through the settings....I was having varying battery life but after recalibrating by letting it die all the way then charging it up full i most recently got like 30 hours off the charger with moderate use and got down to 10%....coulda probably squeezed out a few more hours too if i left it idle....not too bad
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yahoo mail DESTROYED my battery life on my hero so i havent used it in forever...sad to see it still had that problem....also I stopped using any battery widgets that show the exact percentage (as these are usually wrong anyway) and went back to using stock browser (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)....i now check my battery through the settings....I was having varying battery life but after recalibrating by letting it die all the way then charging it up full i most recently got like 30 hours off the charger with moderate use and got down to 10%....coulda probably squeezed out a few more hours too if i left it idle....not too bad
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I find that Battery indicator doesnt draw much power if any as I've always used it and never had a problem. The maker of the app states it uses no extra power. I love the circular battery indicator version found in the market. Its not a widget, it stays in the upper left corner of your notification bar. You should give it a try.
Phone doesn't get hot. I've started from scratch twice, I've ##DATA# reset. I had terrible service and data speeds before I did that and it did a number on my battery. Now it'd fine, but it just drains while doing nothing.
I never use task killers or auto sync, I live with spare parts and and monitor it, no real partial wake usage to speak of. I know how to save battery, my hero get 20+ hours with use and auto-sync on.
I'm thinking my battery might be bad. Feels like your talking down to me too, captain.
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I haven't had mine a week yet, but atm I'm not getting half the battery life I did outta my Hero running AOSP's Gingerbread alpha.
I'm blaming the crap bloat that's part of the stock ROM.
With the display set to 15-20% I've got the display accounting for 69% of the battery usage. :/
Turning off sync is not an option and I feel defeats the purpose of a smart phone. Additionally, I fail to see the point in paying for 4G and not using it. (I do turn it off if I'm out of area for it or don't expect to be using much data.)
So thus far I'm disappointed in the battery life... but still think it'll improve vastly once rooted and cleaned up.
EDIT: Just did a test running Angry Birds for about 10 minutes... maybe 15. It ate up 9% of the battery in that time. Added another 1% to the display usage.
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Phone doesn't get hot. I've started from scratch twice, I've ##DATA# reset. I had terrible service and data speeds before I did that and it did a number on my battery. Now it'd fine, but it just drains while doing nothing.
I never use task killers or auto sync, I live with spare parts and and monitor it, no real partial wake usage to speak of. I know how to save battery, my hero get 20+ hours with use and auto-sync on.
I'm thinking my battery might be bad. Feels like your talking down to me too, captain.
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I'm just trying to give advice so that other people understand what to do to get the most out of the battery. This wasnt meant to be just directed to you. Sorry for trying to help you out, Captain.
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... (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)...
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Miren's latest update last week is supposed to have "reduced battery usage". I've had no problems. Maybe time to come back to the Light..?
I was able to hit the 48 hour mark with light use.
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I was able to hit the 48 hour mark with light use.
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hey that's really impressive. I thought my 20 hours battery life was pretty good...kudos to you.
def getting better bat supply. especially from my hero which only lasted about 6-8 hours, just got my shift yesterday afternoon. from a full charge: Constant texting, facebook, Zenonia 2 (Downloaded wifi), Snes emu + 11 roms (3G), and customizing it to my hearts content. almost 12 hrs later had 20% until i plugged it up at work.
so far this thing is a golden brick to me
Just out of curiosity, how do you calibrate the battery? Just in case my battery life doesn't match the reports (I know my luck )
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Just out of curiosity, how do you calibrate the battery? Just in case my battery life doesn't match the reports (I know my luck )
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Its under # 13 on my 3rd post.
getting great battery life isn't that surprising given you've got a 1500mah battery much like the evo and epic however 48 hours is rather impressive.
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Working on calibrating my wifes battery and damn this thing is hard to kill. Even with with everything running for 5 hours its still over 20% finally decided to bring out the big guns. Turned on navigation and the flashlight. I'll post when I see the battery life after calibration.
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Edit: Phone plugged in at 7:53pm PST. Now to see how long it takes to charge.
Edit #2: Phone finally fully charged almost an hour after my evo finished its 0 to 100 at 12:19am
Edit #3: Holy F***. This phone takes forever to die and to die. Finally on the second off charge. I wouldn't still be doing this but for the fact that its saturday.
I'm so giddy right now. I've ordered an OEM battery for my Vibrant, and i should be getting it any day now. The reason for me ordering a new battery is limited usage time. Lately when flashing any ROM, I make sure It is at 100% charged. I will normally get about 4.5 or less hours of usage - using a little app named 'Battery Left'.
I don't use a task killer. Ever. I know this has some controversy signed to this, but the Android OS is engineered without issue regarding this.
I Use WiFi whenever I can (uses a fraction of the power 3G radios use). When I CAN'T use WiFi, I make sure it's turned off so it's not wasting power scanning for hotspots.
I make sure GPS is off whenever i'm not using it.
I set display timeout to 30 seconds, set brightness to Auto, or manual and the lowest. Little trick, if Brightness is on manual, you can adjust it on the fly by swiping left or right across the task bar.
I let the battery TOTALLY discharge at least once (twice is better) and then charge to full. This doesn't condition the battery, this just calibrates the battery metering software, so that it knows for sure where zero is, making the metering more accurate.
I try to use a darker colored wallpaper, blacks and reds and deep greens and blues use less power than lighter tones, and white is the worst.
I get a half-day out of my rooted Vibrant on T-Mobile, and I actually use it as a phone (amazing huh?), PDA, game machine, ebook reader, etc, it's not just in my pocket on standby. Battery life has nothing to do with it being unlocked/rooted.
I understand the biggest reason why people think THEIR particular smartphone has some sort of battery problem: They just got it, and are using the hell out of it. We tend to not set it down in the first few days/weeks, we're always fiddling with it, showing it to our friends and co-workers, etc. Once the new and shiny wears off, and we settle into more "normal" usage patterns, we start noticing that we get a lot more battery life out of the device. Some people think that the battery is now "broken in", but the truth is, the USER is broken in.
Some of my POWER hungry apps I use on a daily basis is 'SportsTracker' which I use riding my bicycle to and from work (7.3 miles one way). SportsTrack uses my GPS and tracks my ride in REAL time. It sends a link to Facebook and Twitter, where my friends, and family can watch me go. This app uses about 17% of my battery - one way. So, at the end of the day, just using SportsTracker it uses at least 35% of my battery.
Speaking to the heavy users, how many hours do you normally get using your Vibrant?
With 20-30 calls a day, 20-50 texts, dozen or so emails and listening to music and just geeking on the phone Axura 30 hrs before it is 15% Trigger 24 hrs before 15%, but then, that's how it works for me. Since I got rid of stock roms, I have had ZERO battery problems, I only use Task manager. Deleted all the bloat and I have screen set to 50%. Battery is no longer an issue
With Bionyx 1.3 I let the phone sit idle (exchange email running in the background though) from 8AM and till 4PM it took only 15%
Skype+music+movie for around 1 hours and it's down 15% more (now 70%)
I guess it'll last 1.5 day normal use and 2 days idle use
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With 20-30 calls a day, 20-50 texts, dozen or so emails and listening to music and just geeking on the phone Axura 30 hrs before it is 15% Trigger 24 hrs before 15%, but then, that's how it works for me. Since I got rid of stock roms, I have had ZERO battery problems, I only use Task manager. Deleted all the bloat and I have screen set to 50%. Battery is no longer an issue
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That's a great battery life. My bionix eats more battery on almost the same usage. I have around 76 user apps installed and some bloater. One thing I have noticed using system panel is when I sleep, my phone sleeps with me and uses an average of 1% battery per hour. Is that good? I still I think im not getting optimal battery life when im actually using the phone.
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You guys think that's good battery life? Nah, this is good battery life.
I always got 20-30hours a charge with most of the Bionix roms. However with Bionox 1.3 I struggle to get more than 12 hours with the same usage. I did notice that new app BLN (using your soft keys as notifications) was reported on some other roms as a battery drainer, so I have uninstalled via Titanium. I will report back tomorrow if that is the issue. I still use KA5 modem, so that part has always been a constant
Weird. I'm on 1.3 as well. I'm 15 hours into my charge with normal usage on 3G/WiFi and I've got 25% left.
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I'm 15hrs in running Bionix-v 1.2 and i have 42% left. That's with GPS on all day....phone in pocket from unplugging to about 3:30pm. Then only light use.
Days that I use heavily I'll have to plug in around 4pm. I'm not too happy with my battery life. I love my phone...but my old iPhone 3G had top notch battery life! lasting 3 days without charging.
Is it not weird how these times fluctuate so much between users?
Will the new Galaxy S 4G battery fit in our phones? Or will it even be worth it?
Do you have the superpower app? It saves my battery big time when phone is sleeping.
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I ordered a batter charger, two spare regular batteries and one spare extended battery last month for my vibrant.
Now I keep a spare charged battery in my pocket and I no longer have to plug my phone in anywhere I go. I just swap batteries and put the dead one on the charger when I get back home.
If I am going to be away from home for more than 24 hours then I put in the extended battery which gives me about 2 days worth of use.
Its a bit of a pain to have to be down for a minute when the battery is dying, but I am more content using the phone this way since I can now keep it with me instead of leaving it upstairs or on my office desk to charge.
My phone is on the stock KA6 kies and from 8-8:30 it is off the charger on 3G. When I get to work it is on WIFI with WIFI Calling(no signal indoors) from 8:30-12:00 and goes back on 3G. then at 12:30 it goes back on WIFI(calling) and sits like that till 5:00. Usage during that time, some email viewing, 10 txt or so, 5 min phone calls and that is it!! from full charge at 8am to 5 pm I'll be at 45-50% battery left and what you read above is all I do with it all day. Battery life is horrible. Not much I can do(unless someone has an idea to fix the issue) as I need WIFI calling otherwise why have a cell phone?
Food for thought
My phone is on the stock KA6 kies and from 8-8:30 it is off the charger on 3G. When I get to work it is on WIFI with WIFI Calling(no signal indoors) from 8:30-12:00 and goes back on 3G. then at 12:30 it goes back on WIFI(calling) and sits like that till 5:00. Usage during that time, some email viewing, 10 txt or so, 5 min phone calls and that is it!! from full charge at 8am to 5 pm I'll be at 45-50% battery left and what you read above is all I do with it all day. Battery life is horrible. Not much I can do(unless someone has an idea to fix the issue) as I need WIFI calling otherwise why have a cell phone?
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So 16 hours with 3G and WiFi Calling on all the time...on the STOCK Samsung crap? Thats pretty awesome man. WiFi calling is a HUGE drain. Spend the $2 on an app called SystemPanel. It will tell you exactly what is taking up CPU Cycles which, of course, uses battery.
I go 24 hours on a charge with routine use. Granted, everyone's use is different. But I got two days with the KA7 modem on Bionix V. I see no difference with 1.3 (haven't used it enough to tell). Granted, I had WiFi Calling frozen and was on EDGE most of the time and turned on WiFi when I needed it. I've observed WiFi Calling using excessive CPU cycles when it isn't even on. Its pretty poorly coded. I recommend freezing wifi calling when you aren't using it.
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You guys think that's good battery life? Nah, this is good battery life.
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You guys think that's good battery life? Nah, this is good battery life.
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Don't hate.
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i got 2+ battery backup =.="
Tarzanman said:
I ordered a batter charger, two spare regular batteries and one spare extended battery last month for my vibrant.
Now I keep a spare charged battery in my pocket and I no longer have to plug my phone in anywhere I go. I just swap batteries and put the dead one on the charger when I get back home.
If I am going to be away from home for more than 24 hours then I put in the extended battery which gives me about 2 days worth of use.
Its a bit of a pain to have to be down for a minute when the battery is dying, but I am more content using the phone this way since I can now keep it with me instead of leaving it upstairs or on my office desk to charge.
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Where did u get the charger and battery from? Also thinking about getting those!
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