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Ok so.. I finally after months flashed my second rom
HAd some trouble, I have to admit..
DC~~
I had trouble and I did some wiping and messing with my SD chip and that was the only way I could functionally get a flash..
I just spent a day and a half setting my phone up to my liking and its become apparent apps2sd isn't working and my SD card only has one 1.5 partition out of 2 gb.
Sorry if there are posts with directions of how to work from this point to keep everything while enabling apps2sd and transfering
I dont know where to start searching.
Thanks guys.
"The noob"
get a app called dconfig, it has an option to move your apps so they're on the card.
other than that im not sure what youre asking.
it might be simpler just to flash your phone, format your card and start from scratch.
Cloned2 said:
Ok so.. I finally after months flashed my second rom
HAd some trouble, I have to admit..
DC~~
I had trouble and I did some wiping and messing with my SD chip and that was the only way I could functionally get a flash..
I just spent a day and a half setting my phone up to my liking and its become apparent apps2sd isn't working and my SD card only has one 1.5 partition out of 2 gb.
Sorry if there are posts with directions of how to work from this point to keep everything while enabling apps2sd and transfering
I dont know where to start searching.
Thanks guys.
"The noob"
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do some searching on here, goggle & ppcgeeks for how to root, flash a recovery image, partition your sd card and flash a rom. just make sure the guide you are using and the rom you use is for a cdma based hero.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90380 heres good guide to get you started.
I'm rooted I might just need to flash the Rom with the SD card.formatted correctly... I'm going to try to re find where the apps are stored and save them... id love to just be able to correct my SD config and set up apps2sd and move em over so I can keep my home screen set up as well as the info supplied in my apps and todo lists..
Thanks for the info ... on the road right now (passenger.seat )
Maybe I'm not a newb, I'm just stupid... I rooted using ubuntu karmic and I had apps2sd working before I moved to damage control
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hmm.. Damage control rom comes with Dconfig and it has apps2sd enabled and move apps to sd checked.
Ok heres the thing..
I had a Modaco rom before and with apps2sd enabled and the SD formatted properly.
Plugging my phone into a computer would open up 2 drives... One 1 designated to be 1.5 gb and another .5 gb
How ever now I only see one.. the 1.5 gb
My memory is running low as if everything i've installed is in the phone.
searching through the phone i can't seem to find where these apps are being saved...
Are they on the elusive .5 gb partition I can't seem to see??
i think not... I just rebooted and my available space is 63.74mb
It's all becoming a no brainer that i should reflash the rom with the correct specifications to the SD chip...
But what I want to know, is there a way around this. ( I don't see any options, but I'd love to reformat my SD correctly and get apps2sd working on my own, moving all my apps over there while keeping any stored data intact...) <--- is this possible??
[maybe i should learn how to communicate clearly LOL]
For the moment, Ill back up my SD contents and hunt down how to partition correctly.. then I'll see if I can't find the folders where it is storing downloaded apps... then I'll disable then enable the apps2sd setting in dconfig and download an app... if all goes well i'll start pushing my apps over and do the whol "fix apk uid" in the recovery menu...
Hell maybe ill even decide to get a newer recovery besides 1.2.3 while im at it hahah.. any suggestions would be appreciated
# cd /data/app
# pwd
/system/sd/app
# cd /data/app-private
# pwd
/system/sd/app-private
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So... Why is my memory so low???
I'm about to take my SD chip out and see if I cannot access the contents of these folders without it in...
MY APPS2SD IS WORKING AND HAS BEEN WORKING
Sorry guys... somethings just up[or rather DOWN] with my memory and my SD card reads differently...
Cloned2 said:
Being a newb SUCKS!
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There's only one way to stop being a n00b: Learn.
You're doing fine. My suggestion is to not take it all on at once. Focus on one problem, fix it, learn from it and move on to the next one. You'll be a pro in no time.
I would guess that you need to repartition the SD card when moving from one ROM to the next, but I've never really played with apps2sd. See? You know more about it than I do!
download app: quick systems info
to see if your a2sd is working and how much is being used.
use the dconfig to make sure you have dalvik cached moved to sd... reboot the phone.
i am guessing at this....
you say you had a2sd working before with Madaco and could see 2 drives... that sounds wrong to me. if a2sd was working, then you should not see the 2nd drive. you are only able to see the main larger drive and that is it.. the others are used by android and not available to us.
now that you can not see the 2nd drive. sounds like a2sd is working. the app i suggested should confirm for you.
I did get everything working and my memory remains the same when I install applications.... perhaps I could see the second drive because I'm running Linux and/or the way I formatted the sd or the extension...
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I think what you are describing is your SD-EXT partition (the a2sd partition you made). If you have a 2GB card and partitioned your card to be .5GB EXT, then it will appear your SD is 1.5GB. You get what I'm saying?
I used to be able to see 2 partitions as well. I think it was only with 1.5 ROMs.
If you want to mount both partitions then all you need to do is reboot into recovery and select the USB mount. Then both partitions will show up.
But you really don't need to mess with that second partition. Go to the market and download Titanium Backup. That will backup all your apps and settings. Restoring is a little annoying to do since you have to click for every app but if you buy the donate version then you don't have to do that.
centran said:
I used to be able to see 2 partitions as well. I think it was only with 1.5 ROMs.
If you want to mount both partitions then all you need to do is reboot into recovery and select the USB mount. Then both partitions will show up.
But you really don't need to mess with that second partition. Go to the market and download Titanium Backup. That will backup all your apps and settings. Restoring is a little annoying to do since you have to click for every app but if you buy the donate version then you don't have to do that.
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I perfer Backup For Root Users... does the same thing but is free and is one-click one-shot deal.
Nothing too big. I've searched everywhere on this and apparently this is supposed to work, but:
I can't get Live Wallpapers to work
and I can't get the Nexus Launcher to work. Both of these just force close.
Oh, and how do I use Apps2sd? Its greyed out in the settings menu and I can't touch it. Thanks in advance.
All of this has already been answered. Just search the thread of the rom you are using. I promise, its in there.
Thanks haha. Should've done that. But I didn't get anything answered on the Nexus Launcher. It just keeps force closing. Would you choose ADW or Nexus?
Hey Nikolai, what ROM did you use? I've been really busy with a new job and didn't want to get crazy after (finally) rooting, so I went with Ivan's 1.0 ROM. It's essentially the basic Verizon setup without the junk, and overclocking. Apps2SD doesn't work...grrr.
I'd like to try something with Apps2SD and Live wallpapers, but I don't want anything buggy.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Thanks haha. Should've done that. But I didn't get anything answered on the Nexus Launcher. It just keeps force closing. Would you choose ADW or Nexus?
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Launcher Pro is a lot faster than both of those. I would choose that.
im just wondering. now that im rooted what specific apps do you guys reccomend? i have Fresh Rom installed with overclocking just curious what other utilities i should get
A2SD has to have the SD card partitioned. You can do this in the Recovery menu where you flash new ROMS. It will erase everything so make a backup of what you want from your SD Card first then in the partitioning setup it ask for a swap and ext3 size default it is 32mb for swap and 512mb for ext3. After that you should be able to turn A2SD on.
If you choose, and shortly after you turn A2SD on you will, to stop using A2SD repeat the same steps for partitioning the SD card but when you are asked sizes scroll the track ball down till it is 0 for both swap and ext3.
I don't like it because I don't feel like buying a Class 4 SD card or higher to make it worth while. If you are using the stock SD card you got with the phone it will make your phone boot slower and take longer to access the Apps.
I don't know what ROM you are using but the KaosFroyo ROM is a great ROM it is small and that will save you more room for apps if that is what you are looking for.
this thread has nothing to do with development for the eris. can someone please move this to general?
lostpilot28 said:
Hey Nikolai, what ROM did you use? I've been really busy with a new job and didn't want to get crazy after (finally) rooting, so I went with Ivan's 1.0 ROM. It's essentially the basic Verizon setup without the junk, and overclocking. Apps2SD doesn't work...grrr.
I'd like to try something with Apps2SD and Live wallpapers, but I don't want anything buggy.
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I was on eris lightning bolt but i just switched over to ic3rom
Oh and can someone please explain to me what a MAPS rom is? I got the ic3rom lwp version but i dont know the difference
morphius2036 said:
A2SD has to have the SD card partitioned. You can do this in the Recovery menu where you flash new ROMS. It will erase everything so make a backup of what you want from your SD Card first then in the partitioning setup it ask for a swap and ext3 size default it is 32mb for swap and 512mb for ext3. After that you should be able to turn A2SD on.
If you choose, and shortly after you turn A2SD on you will, to stop using A2SD repeat the same steps for partitioning the SD card but when you are asked sizes scroll the track ball down till it is 0 for both swap and ext3.
I don't like it because I don't feel like buying a Class 4 SD card or higher to make it worth while. If you are using the stock SD card you got with the phone it will make your phone boot slower and take longer to access the Apps.
I don't know what ROM you are using but the KaosFroyo ROM is a great ROM it is small and that will save you more room for apps if that is what you are looking for.
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I think I know why apps2sd slowed down your phone. You selected 32mb for swap. I selected 0 for my swap and it's been fast on every apps2sd enabled rom I've used. I bought a class 6 sd card thinking it would make my phone even faster but that was joke. My wife's Eris has the stock class 2 card and I can't tell a difference in the speeds.
I also agree with LexusBrian400 above. Launcher Pro is my favorite launcher. Play around in the preferences for a bit. It has some cool options.
snyluc13 - You need setcpu (or some other app) to control the overclock. Do not set on boot until you have found a setting that wont lock your phone.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Oh and can someone please explain to me what a MAPS rom is? I got the ic3rom lwp version but i dont know the difference
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Without some trickery and some tweaking, you can either get nav(maps version) and no lwp or lwp and no nav (working that is)
can i move the pre installed apps to my sd card partition? i have taintedtenzo with apps2sd and i want to know if theres a way i can do that and if it will work.
i'll try to save you from the burning embers i feel coming your way
(proper etiquette > ask in ROM specific thread, or possibly, in this case, actual a2sd thread). since it's about my ROM, i'll answer and be nice
1. you'd need mad skills to do what i think you're trying to accomplish.
2. really not an advantage anywhere (even the "easy" apps to move won't free up much space).
if your concern is just space... read the instructions in my thread on moving dalvik-cache to sd.
then you'll not really have to worry about the space. (and tbh, there's not going to be a "speed" or performance advantage if you have more internal memory available).
if you're trying to boot your phone from your card (and hence, walk around with an instant-OS/ROM on SD... good luck!)
edit: certain apps like spareparts, clock, home switcher... can all be uninstalled. then just reinstall them, they'll install to sd that way.
read these:
http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/13022-ram-rom-what.html
http://gdgt.com/htc/droid/eris/specs/
oh ok thanks ^.^ illdo the dalvik cache first
As the title suggests on my N1 i keep running out of memory space. I use APP2SD but not all of the apps can get transfered. So what can i do to fix this problem? Some apps like Shazam i need,K-9,handcent, Flextp, but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.Any advice?
Install Titanium Backup.
Use to to either uninstall the apps you dont want (including ones built into ROM if youre rooted) AND/OR us it to force apps to the SD card.
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but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.
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Since they're in /system/app, you cannot delete them without rooting. And even if you can delete them, it won't help you to solve your problem. If you want many application without having space problem, you need to root, install custom rom, use Apps2SD(it will install applications to SD card Ext partition) or Data2Ext.
I'm in the same boat as well. I am consistently hovering around 21-22 mb free. With all the recent updates, it eats up all my memory.
Freaking flash is still 12 mb, google maps is 9.7 mb, music 7.7 etc. Half the google apps I don't even use such as books 4.3 mb and goggles 3.8 mb.
I have to uninstall a few programs every once in a while so I can update another...uggh I guess Google didn't see this coming when they made the n1!
I'm with you. It's annoying as crap.
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Try to see if you can find move2SD Enabler (not sure if it's on the market). It forces your apps to be able to move to SD card. It requires you to be rooted so I'm not sure if that's up your alley or not
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
RogerPodacter said:
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
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Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
If you are rooted... and if you have a decent SD Card (I just use the one that came with mine). I would suggest putting something on it that supports Darktremor. I swear by it for sure... after setting up an sd-ext... installing Darktremor and then running cachesd... I have tons of programs on my phone and I constantly put more on and have not had any issues since. Before, I would run out of memory even with dta2sd. I started removing stuff I didn't use often then decided to finally try out cache2sd and... now... no more problems. It seems like it might be a bit slower on the startup than before (though I never tested to see if it actually is or by how much) but after that it seems to run smooth as silk for me with tons of room to spare. My sd-ext is only 512 MB but you can modify it as you like with the proper partitioning utilities.
Though... this suggestion comes with the advice that you might want to know a bit about what it is I am suggesting before you actually do it. Read into it before you try anything.
Others have lightly touched on it, but most of the google apps are installed directly to the /system partition which is separate from where your downloaded apps are installed. Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
There are also additional options like apps2sdext, but they get a little more advanced as it requires partitioning the sdcard.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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honestly i am lazy, so the only thing i did was use the stock cyanogen allow any app move to sd setting. and it really made a difference. i guess if i wanted to install games that are 200 mb then this wouldnt help. but this method gave like 110mb free so i was happy enough with that.
i never researched the cache2sd or darktremor's method.
also in the past i did use root explorer to move some things from system/ to data/ etc to maximize as much as possible.
There is actually a method that can force enable "Move to SD" button for all apps. Check this link for more info
http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/160560-force-apps-install-sd-without-root.html
However, please be reminded that this implementation is actually based on the Google's app2sd.
So if you move apps with Widgets to SD, they will fail to launch the next time you reboot your phone
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bassmadrigal said:
Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
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Finally! This works, thanks for the tip. It was soooo obvious, but I had never used Ti for this. Tap&hold and choose "Integrate update into ROM".
I just did that to Facebook, Twitter and Google Maps & got over 25 megs new space immediately.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
And this thread is absolutely pointless. This was discussed like 100000 times. There's ONE real solution - and it's A2SD, Apps2EXT, Data2EXT, and another zillion of names for the same thing - rooting, repartitioning SD card, and moving the apps and Dalvik-cache to the EXT partition. All the other solutions are temporary, and while giving some more air to breathe, don't really solve anything for anyone that downloads enough apps.
FAQ, question 9.
Jack, I'm looking into tweaking my partition table to make use of the/cache that hardly gets used in CM.
Do you know much about it?
My biggest problem is getting solid information on the N1 partitions, since I've stumbled across conflicting info...
Any help/guidance would be appreciated!
I guess the most guidance is in the Unrevoked site, the guys who achieved S-OFF on Desire. They have a bootloader that can change the partition sizes, and there's a post on Desire forum with the explanations of booting kernel while switching the partition sizes by passing boot parameters to the kernel.
The problem with Nexus is that unlike Desire, the bootloader will still see the original partitions. So if you change the recovery and the kernel to run with different values, overriding default partitioning (which you can do - it's explained for Desire, I remember reading a thread with explanations there), the bootloader won't play the game. Boot and Recovery will have to remain in place, otherwise the phone won't boot. And if anything goes wrong and the recovery won't boot one day - you'll need to repartition the ROM from the bootloader again and install stock to get going. Lots of work.
What you can do, and what might be better/easier to do, is just to link part of your ROM there - install system apps to /cache, for example, or such. Just remember not to wipe it then
Thanks for the heads up, Jack!
Still got a lot of reading to do on this one...
I have around 168 apps and with 'round 32mbs available ...FYI I am using CyanogenMod
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I have over 200 apps with 42+ mb free... I still wanna play with my partitions... xD
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
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I did use dalvik 2sd for a while, I believe I'm using a 16gb kingston class2. While the phone was still certainly usable, there was a noticeable decrease in performance.
I've had my Evo 4G for almost a year now and I really havent felt the need to upgrade the ROM on it, which is surprising for me since I usually put a custom OS on my phones the day I buy them (coming from a windows mobile background) .
The only issue I have that I would like to rectify is app space. I keep getting the low disk space warning and telling me to remove apps.
I was wondering, if I root the device is there a way to push apps that do not have "move to SD" enabled over to the SD anyway? Facebook and Twitter for instance would be much better off on the SD since they build up huge data caches and need to be cleared all the time when on the phones memory.
Or, is there a way to re-size the phones memory allocations without doing a full re-flash if it's rooted?
Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated. Thanks!
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
pandamaja said:
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
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I tried that app a while ago and it really wasn't that big of a help. Certain apps (like Facebook and twitter) still could not be moved.
roids87 said:
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
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Thanks! I will take a look at that. It may be just what I need.
If you root you can partition your sd card and use dta2sd and it will move all your apps to the extsd even ones with widgets it works great .
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Rooting your phone with a ROM that's at least 2.2 will allow for app2sd use, however, you do not have to ROOT to use app2sd. If you do not wish to ROOT your phone, You need to run at least stock version 2.2 to be able to use app2sd.
I had a HERO that ran 2.1 and app2sd did not work, then I got my EVO with 2.2 and app2sd worked fine. Neither the HERO or EVO were rooted at the time.
Also remember that some apps must stay resident to work and can not be moved to your sd. Many of the app2sd apps will show you what can and can't be moved.
Good Luck.....