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question reguarding overclock rom

hi, i've got a htc wildfire.. well obviously considering i'm posting in this section
anyway, i've installed wildpuzzle 0.8 with the overclocking kernal, what i'm wanting to find out is....
when running setcpu, the cpu will change it's frequency depending on usage.
but what about if setcpu isn't installed and you use the rom to overclock to say 748.. will the cpu stay at 748 permanently, or will it drop down and up natively depending on usage, like setcpu does??
thanks

i would say without set cpu or a specific speed framework, it would revert back to standard 528max 480min
which overclocking kernel have you got, be aware that if you have 130 kernel and overclock, wifi hotspot will not work, you can see phone but you won't be able to connect, you need to use 055 kernel from wildpuzzle 8.0.11 thread.
a small side note, i have just recently changed my overclocking from 691max to 652max, no discernable difference in speed, linpack for 691mhz was 2.9, for 652mhz i'm still getting 2.8 mflops, but huuuuge difference in battery life.
691 max struggling to get 2 days, 652 max after 24 hours i still have 82% battery left.

how do you see this mflops thing? and is it like a cpu score?

subwars said:
how do you see this mflops thing? and is it like a cpu score?
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Download Linpack For Android from the market, and, Yes, in a way, it is like a CPU Score.

SetCPU vs. CMSettings Built-in CPU manager

For those of you on CM7 (preferably RC2 or later nightlies), are you using SetCPU or the built in CMSettings CPU manager? Which is giving you better performance/battery life?
I can't help but think that the built in CM Settings CPU tuner is going to be conflicting with my SetCPU profiles.
Been using nightlies since #30 or so, and I currently run SetCPU with a normal profile, a screen off profile, and a profile for <10% battery and haven't touched CMSettings' CPU manager.
I'm contemplating just uninstalling SetCPU for a day or two and seeing what a 1017max / 245min Ondemand or Powersave governor via CMSettings ends up doing to my battery life considering there will be no screen off profile.
Any thoughts?

I dumped setCPU after a lot of testing (and even bought it on market)
I'm finding I'm much happier using inbuilt CPU settings. I think battery life is the same but performance is better due to the fact that SetCPU would sometimes get stuck in my screen-off profile when turned on causing the phone to be really slow.
I recomend uninstalling setCPU, set your ONDEMAND governor with ~1Ghz and run it... You'll find your battery about the same but much less hassle.

I have yet to try that, I somewhat feel obligated to use SetCPU since I purchased it lol. But it probably won't be the last time I waste money at the market.

Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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Utorrent76 said:
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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its the same thing :facepalm:
Try the inbuilt one... I think its way easier

I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?

Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.

I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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DJAeroX26 said:
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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Definitely. This is the one thing I like about SetCPU is having the 10% and 5% profiles so that I can get the last few % to last forever if I need it. Although in normal day-to-day use I'm never pushing it below 20%.

ScooterG said:
Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
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Yea I see this, as far as the governor changing etc.. This is why I'm wondering if it would be easier on my phone to just run only the CM Settings one.
I notice that every 5th or so time I unlock the phone, there is an obvious lag switching from the screen off profile, and my unlock sliders jitter around and it takes 4-5 tries to unlock the phone. I think this is probably partially due to both settings switching over trying to change.
I think I might try backing up and uninstalling SetCPU for tomorrow to see how it goes.

colonelcack said:
I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.

redpoint73 said:
I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I'm not sure about CM's kernel with the over-volting but I do know that Pershoots kernel can be overclocked to 979mhz without over-volting (Pershoot told me himself).

At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted

Daughain said:
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted
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Well obviously.... But why the hell would you ever need to be running at 1.8ghz? The fact that you are always using a temp-specific profile method should show you that consistent 1.8ghz isn't good for the phone...

Okay so I uninstalled SetCPU last night and I'm going to run just the CM Settings CPU manager all day to see how it goes. Running like this:
ONDEMAND governor
Min CPU: 245 mhz
Max CPU: 1017 mhz
On nightly #19 also.
Okay so its midnight almost, and I'm at 13hrs unplugged and 52% battery still. Pretty general/light use, phone is just as snappy and the lack of a screen off profile doesn't seem to effect battery at all. Liking it so far! very interesting to see the screen off profile not mattering much.

SetCPU for me. I like to have a temperature and charging profile, to prevent the phone from overheating. Even at 1ghz the possibility exists, nice to have a backup incase.

I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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tackleberry said:
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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With multiple tries... If you change the settings on one, it cancels the settings on the other... Maybe it's because you had set on boot enabled on both?

im going to run the CM tuner and uninstall Setcpu and see how it runs. i never thought about this but i do get that lag when i turn my screen on sometimes. im gonna miss having the profiles but ill see how it runs over the coarse of a couple days.

[Q] Suggestions for setcpu range on rooted a500

Can someone please suggest an overclocking range for use with setcpu? Id like to gain some extra performance and dont mind a higher battery drain,but I am concerned about going too high and cooking the tablet
Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

i believe you need a custom kernel or ROM to overclock; SetCPU will definitely let you underclock just rooted.
Once you have a kernel w/ OC enabled, I'd suggest starting with 1400MHz, then load a cpu-intensive game & play for 30mins or so. If SetCPU doesn't show the temps going north of, say, 110F/43C, increase the max speed by 100, repeat until temps get past your comfort zone, then drop back to the prior setting.
I was unable to find a max suggested temp range for Tegra2, so you may want to err on the side of safety and/or comfort and aim for a lower max temp.

As stated above you need a custom kernel to overclock, but it isn't rom related at all. I have been running mine sense i was able to load a custom kernel at max freq 1,504 Ghz and min 216 Mhz and have never had a problem at all. Using setcpu you can set profiles to save battery life, like screen off profiles and also use different governors to help battery life. I usually just leave my governor set to ondemand and can't complain about battery life or over heating.

thank you to you both! Much appreciated

So what clock speed and voltage do you guys keep your N7 at?

What CPU speed and voltage suits you the best?

-100mv on all clocks, 1.2ghz max. No lag.

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I am currently tsvz111 der Kernel Trinity at 1400 and I am not very undervolted. I highly recommend Trinity - if you want more power get a96 which is 1600 max i believe. a96 and other builds might max at 1700 I forget which. Also the inexpensive Trinity Tool kit app.
I was coming to ask what stock voltages are because I have reboots when too under voltage.

MrSchroeder said:
I am currently tsvz111 der Kernel Trinity at 1400 and I am not very undervolted. I highly recommend Trinity - if you want more power get a96 which is 1600 max i believe. a96 and other builds might max at 1700 I forget which. Also the inexpensive Trinity Tool kit app.
I was coming to ask what stock voltages are because I have reboots when too under voltage.
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Refer to the system tuner app for recommended voltages

here's a question. I am running trinity a96 i believe; and I'm trying to keep my device running at minimum 500mhz up to 1.5ghz. However, everytime I turn the device off and back on, it goes back to stock clock speeds. Anyone know how to fix this?

MRsf27 said:
here's a question. I am running trinity a96 i believe; and I'm trying to keep my device running at minimum 500mhz up to 1.5ghz. However, everytime I turn the device off and back on, it goes back to stock clock speeds. Anyone know how to fix this?
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Sometimes the tegra 3 has a mind of its own. I had that problem with every kernel I tried before giving up. What you can do is set an init.d script to set the clock speeds
But I have Faux's 009es kernel, which comes at 1.2GHz and I have just left it. Tegra 3 does a good enough job at handling performance by itself imo

is there any rom or kernel to under volt?

just bought a Le Pro 3 and couldn't find any kernel or rom that could under volt. is there any rom or kernel to under volt?. Thx

To undervolt you mean to make the cpu frequencies lower? I am doing that with a program called Kernel Tuner. You can set the CPU and GPU speed and set the CPU governor from there.
The phone it has to be rooted.

motanel_pufos said:
To undervolt you mean to make the cpu frequencies lower? I am doing that with a program called Kernel Tuner. You can set the CPU and GPU speed and set the CPU governor from there.
The phone it has to be rooted.
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what i mean is to lower the CPU or GPU voltage.

I don't know how to do that. As I said, I use Kernel Tuner to set the maximum cpu/gpu speed the phone can go. It's not the same thing. But is better than nothing. The phone works really good even with lower frequencies and I don't need top speed except some greedy games. Now I can reach a sot of over 6 hours with 4-5 hours of heavy gaming.
If you can find a way do undervolt please post it.

Claire2001 said:
what i mean is to lower the CPU or GPU voltage.
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No kernels offer access to the voltage table yet. UV isn't available and I don't think it'll come.

Ace42 said:
No kernels offer access to the voltage table yet. UV isn't available and I don't think it'll come.
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thanks for confirming, time to return the pro 3 or sell it at a loss. was just hoping that out there somewhere there would be a kernel that has the feature to undervolt.

I still don't see the point of undervolting the CPU/GPU on a phone. As long as it works fine and the battery last long enough (and honestly this phone have plenty of battery, I recharge every 2 or 3 days), why?

ZeblodS said:
I still don't see the point of undervolting the CPU/GPU on a phone. As long as it works fine and the battery last long enough (and honestly this phone have plenty of battery, I recharge every 2 or 3 days), why?
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Because he used to do that on older device, and thinks this is some kind of a must function lol. I also have no clue why on earth you would need to underclock pro 3, it doesnt overheat, and it has probably best battery life of all snapdragon 821 devices. Undervolting this device would gain you absolutely nothing, nonsense.