A Broadcom BCM4329 integrating Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and FM connectivity to provide speeds up to 50 Mbits/s in 802.11n....
read on here
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/2
anyone excited about the possibilities ?
Only figures that if it's 4g capable, might as well do N too. Another reason the EVO is this year's superphone.
I noticed that too.. I wasn't sure if that was new information or not. I almost posted it.
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A Broadcom BCM4329 integrating Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and FM connectivity to provide speeds up to 50 Mbits/s in 802.11n....
read on here
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/2
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
So why don't they advertise its potential N capabilities?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
So why don't they advertise its potential N capabilities?
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From what I understand, Android 2.1 doesnt have a driver that supports N speeds on the chip (much like the N1). It will probably be officially enabled later in the year and enabled unofficially within days by the folks here
zonyl said:
From what I understand, Android 2.1 doesnt have a driver that supports N speeds on the chip (much like the N1). It will probably be officially enabled later in the year and enabled unofficially within days by the folks here
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Yes it will, it is enabled by the 2.2 update as shown with the N1 update
pcmag.co m/article2/0,2817,2364001,00.asp
I've heard rumors that using n is generally more of a battery-hog, anyone with 2.2 using n on this or other chip confirm or deny-comment (so that users may best allocate such resources)?
The first ipods had bluetooth but it wasn't enabled until 3.0 I think. The second gen ipod can do N but they won't update it to do it.
I have N setup at my house, would be nice to bring the EVO into that. Gotta love N in a house filled with internet happy people. I'm the only one that can use N, HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I'm just curious seeing the Gingerbread OS requires very high-spec devices, and that the Legend is only a mid-range phone.
I don't think Google have even stated what the min spec's are for it, afaik it's mostly assumed a 1ghz cpu, 512mb ram etc are required.
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nah, i think google will optimize the speed of the android os etc.
it wouldnt be smart to point out low and mid range devices.
the real question is, will htc port gingerbread for the legend?
why ? there's no point to update an old phone.. it's htc. it took them a long time to port froyo..
Maby someone will cook it for us... but yes just we have to wait froyo update for legend
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HTC will never release Gingerbread for mid range phones.
SAME topic in development section where Ali Ba states that he has a good chance in cooking one along with the CM developers.
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HTC will never release Gingerbread for mid range phones.
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Sure they won't... they are not dumb to have support for devices that are more than 2 years old. Why would they... they release at least 10 devices per year. Their priority is to support most profitable devices at any moment.
What they could and should do is to release specs for hardware in such old devices so community would be able to "support" those if there is a will.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTou...TA-update-today-from-2-to-3/m-p/651347#M23472
anyone else get this. I am still on 1.35.531.1
there are reports of 1.35.531.3 what is this?
Wow no one has seen this yet
I seen it but I had nothing to say since well, I haven't seen anything regarding this lol, any one have info?
Could just be one of those random updates they push out to break root.
Not trying to threadjack but peeking into the regular MyTouch 3G forums the announcement has been made for the update on the 3.5mm and Fender. They say it should be done by the 1st of Feb so we should be just after that one would assume.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-3G/Ladies-and-Gentlemen-Froyo/td-p/496813
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They can't get wifi to work and the partition that the update is installed on is too small, no release date given because of these two problems.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/mytouch-slide-update-delayed-by-two-issues/
Wow ... that link had a lot of negative comments about the Slide. Lot's of hate and animosity in the Android community! I don't get it ... my Slide is super smooth and now that I'm finally getting consistent 4mbps data speeds from TMO's network I am 99% satisfied with it. I can wait until upgrade time for a dual core phone.
It amazes me when I consider the CM team's capacity for production and consistent and reliable development and the lack of such behavior from an international device manufacturer and a major US mobile service provider ... At any rate, it'll be interesting to see what the developers can do with the update because I will not be using a Sense based ROM in the foreseeable future.
Thanks for the post and link.
Seems like it's about ready. Assuming the Rom with the new Radio is complete and has the 2 issues fixed we should see it after the 3.5/Fenders are done. Maybe 1 Feb or so,
Does anybody know if/when Android 2.4 will be released for the Atrix? I'm eager for this as it should bring support for dual core phones (eg the atrix)
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Fall at the earliest is my guess
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Sooner the better amirite?
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Nobody knows. Nobody at Motorola has really said anything about it. I believe there was a rumor of possibly late summer or sometime in the fall... but who really knows.
And... i don't know if i'd say "will bring support for" in regards to dual-core phones. "will bring better support for", maybe. Supposedly the version of Froyo currently used on the Atrix has been modified to support dual core.
I am guessing we will sooner get it by bypassing the bootloader than motorola and at&t pushing updates on a phone they have wrong holed since the beginning.
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july 4
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july 4
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Your comment made me picture the post where someone announces they figured out how to bypass the bootloader, " We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day! "
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Does anybody know if/when Android 2.4 will be released for the Atrix? I'm eager for this as it should bring support for dual core phones (eg the atrix)
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wait so i spent money on dual core that is not even supported?
It is supported, but Gingerbread is better for multi core.
Motorola as recompiled the kernel with SMP enabled, so we are using the dual core in froyo for all the apps that we install that supports dual core.
This is all sort of misleading. Yes, we have an SMP, preemptible kernel so AFAIK system tasks and others will run while our system is going, things should be generally smoother. Most apps will execute on one core, as I think the Dalvik VM is not multi-core aware.. although single-threaded apps will not get an automatic performance boost from 2.3/2.4, when a multi-core aware Dalvik comes to us. However, the garbage collector thread will run on the other core, and apps which are programmed to take advantage of multiple cores will certainly run faster. So, even if we had a multi-core capable Dalvik today, it wouldn't be a huge performance boost until the rest of the ecosystem catches up. But yes, hopefully Motorola is getting us there soon! The MT870, a cousin of our MB860, is shipping in China with Gingerbread on it.
i spoke with some guys from motorola, they will release the 2.3 in the half year, because a lot of moto phones just got froyo now, so they are giving some time before lauch ginger, but it has been confirmed from moto workers, WE WILL HAVE GINGERBREAD !^^
We'll have to wait and see I guess...
I am not too hopeful about it tho.
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i spoke with some guys from motorola, they will release the 2.3 in the half year, because a lot of moto phones just got froyo now, so they are giving some time before lauch ginger, but it has been confirmed from moto workers, WE WILL HAVE GINGERBREAD !^^
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Who were your Moto contacts, are they from the teams working on it?
if so i'd love to speak to them.
http://getsatisfaction.com/huaweiindia/topics/android_2_3_when_for_ideos_x5
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http://getsatisfaction.com/huaweiindia/topics/android_2_3_when_for_ideos_x5
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Huawei Cares (Customer Support) 1 day ago
Not any specific date, but it will be by September end or in October.
Cheers!
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good news...So we wait some weeks more!
Arent the custom roms already running 2.3? so.. why such a big deal haha?
Because the official 2.3 it's supposed to have all the bug fixes that are much needed (low volume in calls, low mic recording, crappy BT audio in calls, screen-lag issue fixed, sensor lag fixed, wifi tethering etc etc)
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Because the the official 2.3 it's supposed to have all the bug fixes that are much needed (low volume in calls, low mic recording, crappy BT audio in calls, screen-lag issue fixed, sensor lag fixed, wifi tethering etc etc)
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Also lets hope for fixed wifi and data connection dropouts and USB tethering
i think the earliest we get it will be december
classic "you can expect this on ...." "we re working on it" patterns
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=el&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftechblog.gr%2Fmobile%2Fhuaweix5-android-2-3-9882%2F&act=url
techblog.gr has infos for the update too. says will have the update on upcoming months.
I would suggest you to forget about official 2.3 Cause they have NO interest in making it cause it's stupid to work on things that are already on sale and they have newer models..they just don't give a damn about customers or their older phones. They may do 2.3 if they release or have any new model with similar hardware - so then maybe.. I don't see any reason why they should want to release 2.3
I believe they are going to release it as some models already have the upgrade.
Just be patient.
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I believe they are going to release it as some models already have the upgrade.
Just be patient.
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which ones have UPGRADE? not just 2.3 but upgrade from 2.2 ?
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I would suggest you to forget about official 2.3 Cause they have NO interest in making it cause it's stupid to work on things that are already on sale and they have newer models..they just don't give a damn about customers or their older phones. They may do 2.3 if they release or have any new model with similar hardware - so then maybe.. I don't see any reason why they should want to release 2.3
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They HAVE TO DO coz google says so. There has been some problems on giving support to the old models with htc, samsung etc so google make some deals with them.
Eventually there would be an update but sure they dont give a damn to us so we would wait alot for this.
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It can't come soon enough, sad to be reading about this new deLay. Totally sucks. How come they don't use some of the code already made available by DZO/Stockwell/geno on their Oxygen/CM/Miui ROMs?
I don't think HW by themselves will make 2.3 for U8800, coz they launched U8800 pro. Maybe we can take ROM from it in a future.
i hope they really gonna release it!
I highly doubt that there is going to be any offical 2.3 update.
It will come belive me. They said in the end of the year. So be a little patient.
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I think companies will soon realise that some customers will no longer purchase their tech if there is an insufficient upgrade path.
I wont be buying another Huawei soley due to the slow/lack of support for almost all models within a few months of their release.
Why would I buy a new computer if it wont be upgradable to the next OS within a few months?
A computer running early ubuntu can still easily be upgraded to the lastest no problem, most companies nowadays worry about support first and about the tech later and i'm starting to get that way about phones, dont want to constantly change tech only because the support is ****.
Sure i understand the profit motive to make people buy new phones every 6 months, but its just getting a bit ridiculous when your talking about $500 phones especially in these economic times, if they put a big sticker on the outside of the box saying 'NO SUPPORT AFTER 6 MONTHS' i'm sure they wouldnt sell as well, everytime I see a Huawei box I just imagine that sticker on the front now
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I wont be buying another Huawei soley due to the slow/lack of support for almost all models within a few months of their release.
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I'm agree with you on that part!
I've been saying the same thing...I'll NEVER buy a Huawei product again! No matter how cheap it will be...Now I know why it's cheap...
Huawei CMO said 2.3 ROM would be released.
according to Huawei CMO's official weibo (chinese twitter), 2.3ROM will definately be released, but still, no specific date.
weibo.com/1100856704/xpo1BuZgt
translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fweibo.com%2F1100856704%2Fxpo1BuZgt
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
Can't wait to see how well the atrix handles it!
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I can't wait!
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
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haha...the car hasn't made much progress, we spent a lot of time getting our house on the market and are looking to buy, so all of my free time has been for 'family and home stuff' Someday...
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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thats just another way of saying they dont support gfx drivers in the stock AOSP for other devices - nvidia still provides those for the tegra2, so it should sitll be possible to get hw acceleration on the atrix
its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
Tegra will get ICS from the LG 2X and we'll probably get a port from there. That's the least of the worries.
Many additional drivers will also be needed such as GPS, FP, possibly Bluetooth and wifi...etc
Plus, no official release will, if true, means many bugs and hiccups. That's what I've been saying all along here in the ICS jerking threads.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
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Xoom uses a different Tegra 2 SoC than the Atrix. Our best chances come from G2X, Photon, and Droid 2X. Xoom uses Tegra 250 T20 whereas smartphones use Tegra 250 AP20H. Even then, it's going to be a hack-up job since they aren't the same devices. It will definitely not run as well as if we had an official ICS release.
EDIT: The reason why is that the driver + proprietary libraries needed for hardware acceleration are built for a specific kernel. We don't share kernels with those devices regardless of how similar the devices are. They'd have to compare the 2 different kernels (a 2.3.4 vs a 4.0.1 mind you) and try and merge in the differences necessary to get hardware acceleration working. All in all, it will be the Atrix running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel and drivers trying to run ICS.
Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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I did say that. But the problem is that it just that, a hacked together kernel and gpu driver. radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc. will still be on GB drivers. It would never run as well as if we had native ICS drivers and kernel.
How bout we just wait and find out?
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How bout we just wait and find out?
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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You must know all this since you know the future huh?
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