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App to turn it OFF?

Is there an app or something that can turn the device completely off? I hate this alway on mode that WM insists on :?
Cheers
btw. using a qtek9000

Why do you want it completely off?

I think that's normal for pocket pcs isn't it? I know the XDA2 was the same. Feels weird at first but you get used to it.
Putting it in flight mode then turning the screen off is the closest you can get. Or you can take the battery out to turn it off completely, but that's just ball ache :lol:

DavidT. said:
Why do you want it completely off?
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Well, sometimes I don't use it for a few days, so I'd like it off...
If I take the battery out, then out it back in, it stays off until the power button is pressed, that's the kind of app I'd like. Like psshutXP, but that really turns it off...
Maby there's no way to do this though

GaZ said:
I think that's normal for pocket pcs isn't it? I know the XDA2 was the same. Feels weird at first but you get used to it.
Putting it in flight mode then turning the screen off is the closest you can get. Or you can take the battery out to turn it off completely, but that's just ball ache :lol:
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Yea, I'm used to it, having owned a few different PPC's, I just figured that a device that doesn't lose all info when the battery runs out should have a proper off button :wink:

I am not sure but maybe u can take a look at SkSchema (commercial).
A lot of functions including POWER OFF but I!m a user of Wizard (has off function itself) so nor sure works for u :roll:

I am not sure but maybe u can take a look at SkSchema (commercial).
A lot of functions including POWER OFF but I!m a user of Wizard (has off function itself) so nor sure works for u :roll:

VJEschaton can turn it off (it's never quite off, but close enough), using the option -sleep
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Press the power button several seconds and you will see a popup showing ...."the pda will turn off". Then your pda will be completly turned off (no phone, no energy, etc)

dherrero said:
Press the power button several seconds and you will see a popup showing ...."the pda will turn off". Then your pda will be completly turned off (no phone, no energy, etc)
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Not on my QTek9000, all that does is turn the backlight off...

Is Wake on Home Button Push Possible?

Hey, did anyone found solution... is it possible to tweak settings somehow so that display turns on by pushing home button? Or do I really have to push power button every time?
I know of volume button tweak, but.. that one is no good (volume settings gets displayed)... Any other ideas, suggestions? (other than "pull the stylus")
Thanks!

Try AE Button Plus. You can customize a lot of buttons. I didn't tried what you asked, but it worth a try.
Anyway, take care using it.

I would say not. There appears to be no power to these lower buttons while in standby, so no software could work?
Kev

cokester said:
Hey, did anyone found solution... is it possible to tweak settings somehow so that display turns on by pushing home button?!
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No, for the reasons given.
BUT... you could use MobileMagic to toggle the screen on/off when device is turned face down. That way when you turn it face down, screen goes off and buttons are locked. To turn it back on, turn devicedevice face down again.
You do need to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for", because if the device gets turned off (instead of just screen off) it won't respond.
I have it set to turn screen off on reverse portrait too,
so it turns off automatically when I put it in my pocket.

Im also afraid for that power button... used it a lot on my diamond so it got bricked, its so gentle... Im using it as much as little possible now on mine HD for that reason.

I have s2u2 unlock on stylus out, so I pull out the stylus, the HD comes on and unlocks. It's so simple.

gadgetuk437 said:
No, for the reasons given.
BUT... you could use MobileMagic to toggle the screen on/off when device is turned face down. That way when you turn it face down, screen goes off and buttons are locked. To turn it back on, turn devicedevice face down again.
You do need to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for", because if the device gets turned off (instead of just screen off) it won't respond.
I have it set to turn screen off on reverse portrait too,
so it turns off automatically when I put it in my pocket.
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gadgetuk437
Do you find this has any impact on battery life? If i'm right, this just turns off the screen but does not put the device to sleep?

cokester said:
Hey, did anyone found solution... is it possible to tweak settings somehow so that display turns on by pushing home button? Or do I really have to push power button every time?
I know of volume button tweak, but.. that one is no good (volume settings gets displayed)... Any other ideas, suggestions? (other than "pull the stylus")
Thanks!
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That's not possible for the simple reason that the buttons below the screen are part and parcel of the touch screen, so if the screen is off, they won't work.

gadgetwizard said:
Do you find this has any impact on battery life? If i'm right, this just turns off the screen but does not put the device to sleep?
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That is correct.
Power consumption, in this case, depends on what applications are left running. GPS, streaming video, etc would be a bad idea to leave running. But more workday apps use very little juice when the huge power drain of the screen is turned off.

MackTK said:
Try AE Button Plus. You can customize a lot of buttons. I didn't tried what you asked, but it worth a try.
Anyway, take care using it.
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Nope... I've tried that app. Its great for locking down the normal WM hardware buttons, but it doesn't have the HTC bespoke "Home button" on the list of configurable buttons.

All programs close when screen goes black

Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??

Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power

Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.

I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.

shuflie said:
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me

Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.

I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.

I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.

Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??

Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.

shuflie said:
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....

Strange, doesn't do that on mine.

shuflie said:
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!

I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.

Fallen Spartan said:
I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.

Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/

Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?

HELP!

for some reason, my x1's speakers don't work anymore. it din't fall, get wet, or anything. help!

did u turn it to silent mode before u get this problem ?

3aZoOoF said:
did u turn it to silent mode before u get this problem ?
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LOL, you are a great solver, man!
ajilopez, have you solved your problem? have you tried to reboot, use another media player, use another song?

[email protected]: yes i did. my alarm doesn't work, it doesn't ring, no screen taps etc. but when i use my bluetooth headset, i hear everything from the headset.

Tried a hard reset already?

uhh...haven't done this sort of thing before...how?

Turn off the phone.
Hold the left and right soft keys down and keep it held while you press the on button. Don't release the left and right keys until the colorful screen shows up.

Sfkn2 said:
Turn off the phone.
Hold the left and right soft keys down and keep it held while you press the on button. Don't release the left and right keys until the colorful screen shows up.
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Ehm...maybe you should have mentioned that all data stored on the phone memory will be gone after this.
So make a backup before hardresetting!

How to lock the screen by turning it off?

Hi, my typical procedure before putting the phone in the pocket is to hold right soft button to lock the screen and to switch off the screen with the power button. I wonder if there is a way to do it at once. You press the power button and screen goes off locked?
Thanks.s.

Install AutolockScreen 1.7 (I'm at work so don't have the cab with me, but if you search this site you'll find it. Install the cab and then go to Start\Settings\System\SmartLock and tick Suspend lock.

LockDevice works well...
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/09...k-the-windows-mobile-screen-after-wakeup.html

Do either of these lock screen apps consume a lot of power?
I understand they have also been created with power saving feaures but what do they run like in a coarse of a day for instance, do they drain the battery quickly?
Thanks.

HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off

Fallen Spartan said:
HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off
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It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.

Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.

rpimps said:
Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.
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Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.

ClydeB1 said:
It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.
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My phone is set to quite dim anyway in Power settings so this doesn't affect me.......hence why I forgot about it
I've attached the cab which ClydeB1 was talking about, i.e. SmartLock 1.7

Mastoid said:
Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.
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What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?

rpimps said:
What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)

rpimps said:
What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.

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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock

Fallen Spartan said:
True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock
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Was using your answer and expanding on it for explaining to rpimps

ClydeB1 said:
Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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Oh ok thanks for the info. Mine does unlock when I get a call/sms but I text a lot so I prefer it to do that, otherwise I'd be wasting a lot of time unlocking it every time I got a message.

Thanks for the hint ClydeB1 and thanks for the cab Fallen Spartan.
I tried SL 1.7 and there are three things, which I do not really like.
1. The phone returns to the very same screen where it was switched off. Some may consider it a pre. I prefer to see the clock when I switch it on.
2. The screen blink once when the phone is switchd on. I find it a bit irritating.
3. I do not see how I can uninstall it.
So, I wonder if you can undim the screen in HD Tweak by touching it or you need to do something extra?

You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.

ClydeB1 said:
You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.
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The way I had activated the lock was by pressing and keeping pressure on the end call softkey, after a few seconds it vibrates and activates the lock. It comes on automatically when you put the screen off or restart the phone.
Regards.

Auto-lock screen
I'm running CLEAN ROM (B version) with SPB Mobile Shell.
Considering I don't want any superficial apps installed on my HD, I used HD Tweak and turned autolock on.
To get over the "background light not undimming after locking" problem, I initially unchecked "Automatically adjust backlight" under Settings > System > Power > Backlight and set at 100%. I also set the "Dim backlight on Device" when on battery power to the same time as "Turn off device if not used for". In my case that was 1 minute. I tested and this worked fine.
I then went back in and checked the "Automatically adjust backlight" checkbox.
I also performed the wake up with volume button reg edit making it easier to wake up device.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DefaultKeyLock"= 0
UPDATE:
Just tested again and I realised if you wake up device but don't unlock. The screen will automatically dim. Unfortunately if you unlock immediately after, the dim screen issue rears it's ugly head again. The only workaround at this point is to completely disable dim backlight.