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Interesting WiFi Reg Setting

Did anyone else notice this registry entry?
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"EnableElpMode"=dword:00000000
If I'm not mistaken, the TyTn has a TI ACX100 WiFi chip, and this chip has TI's "Enhanced Low Power(tm) Technology". I've enabled it on my TyTn, and so far it seems to do no harm. I'll have to see if my battery power improves over the next week.

Correction...
Ah, the htc TyTn has TI's TNETW1250 chip. My mistake.
In any case, I think the EnableElpMode (if it really does work) would be a good thing. Also, I've seen a few webpages suggesting an additional key:
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
Apparently this key tells the driver it's okay to do any 802.11g speed. I'm going to go find out!

let us know how it goes....

1st set of test results
First, I should detail the equipment I'm using.
My wifi router: D-Link 624.
My phone: htc TyTn, QTEK ROM 1.35.255.2 (Radio 1.18.00.10)
My laptop: IBM Thinkpad T22, w/ Hawking Techmologies HWC54D wifi card, Win2k.
My PC: P4 2.4GHz, asus P4P800 (has Gb lan), WinXP.
Results so far: (using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest, and sitting right next to my DI624)
PC: 5.3 Mb/s
Laptop (w/wifi): 3.4 Mb/s
TyTn: ~250 kb/s
Notes:
In one test I set the DI624 to use 802.11g only. Without any registry tweaks, the TyTn connected up just fine. Therefore, I suspect that the dot11SupportedRateMaskG key is no longer needed.
Curious to see if I could boost the TyTn's wifi speed, I began fiddling with all of the different registry settings under that heading (listed above). The wifi speed always hovered in the 250 kb/s range. It seems as though none of those settings significantly changed the wifi speed.
There was one key that did make a big difference in the time it take to actually connect up to the wifi router. Setting "dot11ShortPreambleInvoked" to 1 greatly sped up the time from wifi-off to wifi-connected-and-ready. (My DI624 was also configured for a short preamble.) Without the short preamble, it was taking between 10-30 seconds for the TyTn to connect up. With the short preamble it's between 5-10 seconds.
(Side note: The "Testmode" key didn't seem to do anything - at least I didn't see any difference when I set that to 1.)
One other key that did make a small difference:
[HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Params]
"TCPWindowSize"=65536
I played around with this key, and it seems like setting it to 4096 "optimized" it just a bit. I got around 270 kb/s with that setting. Setting it bigger (say, 256k) slowed things down (~240 kb/s), while setting it smaller (say, 1k) really slowed things down (~170 kb/s!).
I'm going to continue fiddling around with the settings and report back again. It just seems to me that the TyTn should be able to achieve a wifi speed at least above 1 Mb/s. I would appreciate it if everyone else would check their wifi speed and post the results here as well.
p.s. If anyone knows of a PocketPC utility that can show detailed wifi connection information (such as speed, frequency, protocol, etc.) please let me know!

250 kpbs, that cant be correct? can it?
that would mean that HSDPA is faster than hermes wifi? I will test mine when my wife gives it back to me, im grounded for the holiday season. lol
something is terribly wrong here......

yes, there is something wrong here... I think you need to turn on flight mode before you run your wireless test again, and here is why... On my phone i have my data connection set to always on. If i turn on wifi then my data connection doesnt disconnect and will result in low speeds since its not using the wifi. If i turn mine on flight mode then run tests then everything is good. Here is my results using the same site as the OP
PC = 1.9
phone = 1.4
I am using a 3meg adsl pipe with a wireless SMC router with mac filtering, regular wep, and a static set up on the LAN side.

Progress!
I changed my wifi speed test to: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Surprisingly, that speed test reported 1647 kb/s for my TyTn!
Fiddling with the TCPWindowSize value, it seems that 64k is optimum - well, at least with the dslreports test.

i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing

Wireless settings / b-g connections
Hi, I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router?? Is it b-only? Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks? Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
Thanks!

motoroller said:
I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router??
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My TyTn is fairly new (bought last month) and I can configure my DI624 to 802.11g only, and connect up just fine. What ROM version does your TyTn have? I'm on the QTEK 1.35.255.2 ROM. If you TyTn is right-out-of-the-box, it's probably got the QTEK 1.18.xxx.x. If that's so, you should consider unlocking it and upgrading it to one of the latest ROMs.
motoroller said:
Is it b-only?
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The htc TyTn (Hermes) has the TI TNETW1250 wifi chip. This chip is 802.11g capable.
motoroller said:
Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks?
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You can try adding this registry key (although I'm not sure it will do anything on the TyTn):
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
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Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
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Yes. Wifi chips that support 802.11g always support 802.11b (AFAIK).
Good luck!

shogunmark said:
i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
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Yeah, after checking out several speed test websites, I'm beginning to doubt the one on bandwidthplace. Actually, while testing out several other speed test websites using my PC, I've gotten a smattering of different speeds reported. Most seemed to be within reason and about what I expected, but a few were either obviously too slow or absurdly too high. (Ony reported above 100 Mb/s downstream, even though my cable modem is a DCM-202!) The dslreport site seemed to be believable to me, so I'm sticking with it for now.

If it makes you feel better i work for AT&T in the DSL maintenance department and have for 6 years.. anytime i have anyone that reports slow speed issues i always take them to dslreports and use those speedtests.. they seem to be the most reliable that i have found..

Okay, I'll trust dslreports' speed test then!
So now the question is: Does a wifi speed of ~1600 kb/s sound "right" for the TyTn?
What makes me wonder is that when I run the dslreports speed test on my laptop via wifi, I get ~3.2 Mb/s. So I know my DI624 can pump out the bits! (Well, for 802.11g's max of 54 Mb/s, that's still kinna lame.)
I've pretty much exhausted all of the registry settings I can find. Got any others I can/should look into?

there are other things you need to take into account, the processor, the amount of ram, etc.. when you run a speed test it rely's on your pc to process the information as it comes down the pipe... if you really wanted to test it you could build a pc that resembled the phones specs and run a speed test and see what you get.. i would make a bet that it would resemble the same results

Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?

onlineemails said:
Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?
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have you already went to settings>connections>wireless lan>power mode tab and changed the slider to best performance?

did it but no effects

Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!

Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
I run a WRT54G with upgraded firmware downloaded from kinksys. Before that the damn thing wouldn't even connect to my TYTN.
Right now I am getting connection speeds through WiFi between 650kbps and 1200 kbps according to www.2wire.com speed test.
I have a Dopod 838Pro bought in HK in November to which I didn't do a Thing yet!
Cheers

Is 1.6 Mb/s the best TyTn can do?
Well I've fiddled with all the registry settings I could possibly fiddle with, and dslreports won't show anything above 1.6 Mb/s for on my TyTn (using PIE).
Has anyone gotten anything higher with their TyTn?

Low Wi-Fi speed on LAN

I've noticed the following problem:
When trying to download (file copy/video play) from my LAN to the HD, download speeds maximum is about 340 kbps (LOL...that's like EDGE) . With the same setup (wireless "G" router) I can download on the HD from internet with speeds 2 000+ kbps. LAN operations between my PCs/laptops are @ 60 000 kbps wired and 20 000 kbps wireless (using the same setup). To access my LAN from the HD I'm using Resco Explorer....and at that 340 kbps speed it's not possible to watch movies from my LAN. No such problem with my other PDA (iPAQ HX4700) which is not even "G" but "B" device - speed is about 3 000 kbps. Can anyone confirm this and suggest a solution? Can anyone watch movies from LAN encoded with more than 400 kbps?
p.s.: Speeds are measured using DU Meter (for PC)
p.s. 2: Same low (340 kbps) speed with another wireless router

kokopipi said:
I've noticed the following problem:
When trying to download (file copy/video play) from my LAN to the HD, download speeds maximum is about 340 kbps (LOL...that's like EDGE) . With the same setup (wireless "G" router) I can download on the HD from internet with speeds 2 000+ kbps. LAN operations between my PCs/laptops are @ 60 000 kbps wired and 20 000 kbps wireless (using the same setup). To access my LAN from the HD I'm using Resco Explorer....and at that 340 kbps speed it's not possible to watch movies from my LAN. No such problem with my other PDA (iPAQ HX4700) which is not even "G" but "B" device - speed is about 3 000 kbps. Can anyone confirm this and suggest a solution? Can anyone watch movies from LAN encoded with more than 400 kbps?
p.s.: Speeds are measured using DU Meter (for PC)
p.s. 2: Same low (340 kbps) speed with another wireless router
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if you are using the default memory card that came with the phone, it is only a class 2. the write speed isn't spectacular, this may not be the reason. but it's the only variable i see right now. since your can download stuff to your phone from web at good speeds. i think it's more of a problem with the machine that is "uploading" or hosting the video. check the upload speed of that machine.

I think the memory has nothing to do with the problem. And I've tried with different host machines - the same result.

Slow network speed through WIFI
I have to same problems on my HD. I am using a home server at home which holds all of my videos. When connecting to it and watching a video with my old Eten X800 everything works fine and runs smoothly. But doing the same on my HD results in an unwatchable video. If I copy and paste this video on my mem card on the HD the video runs smoothly. There are some strange things going on with the WIFI speeds on the HD
Anyone worth investigating this issue?

Yeah... the strange thing is LAN speed is much lower than Internet speed using same network equipment

do better help me to help you, can you give me the numbers again in the follow format (some of them were missing from your original post)
Internet->Host:
Host->Internet (may not be relevant, but give it anyway):
Internet->HD:
HD->Internet:
Host->HD:
HD->Host:
arrows indicating direction of the traffic (ie. downloading or upload).

buggybug0 said:
do better help me to help you, can you give me the numbers again in the follow format (some of them were missing from your original post)
Internet->Host:
Host->Internet (may not be relevant, but give it anyway):
Internet->HD:
HD->Internet:
Host->HD:
HD->Host:
arrows indicating direction of the traffic (ie. downloading or upload).
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Internet->Host: 7825 kbps (currently)
Host->Internet (may not be relevant, but give it anyway): 506 kbps
Internet->HD: 1560 kbps (currently)
HD->Internet: can't measure
Host->HD: 340 kbps
HD->Host: 340kbps
Also
Host->another PC 60 000 kbps (wired)
another PC->Host 60 000 kbps (wired)
Host->Laptop 20 000 kbps (wireless)
Laptop->Host 20 000 kbps (wireless)
The Host could be PC/another PC/Laptop - the results concerning the HD are identical, which means the problem is not from the Host nor the network setup.

Did you check the power saving settings in the WiFi parameters ?

Coude said:
Did you check the power saving settings in the WiFi parameters ?
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YEAH!
it could be toggled/switched on "better performance" for better speed and "best performance" for g protocol. But the device will be hotter!

Coude said:
Did you check the power saving settings in the WiFi parameters ?
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These settings affect both Internet and LAN performances but Internet speed is OK and LAN speed is slow. And yes, I did play with the settings - results are the same. (because I'm 2-3 meters away from the wireless router). I'll be glad if someone with HD, actually tests a connection between his HD and a PC in a LAN and not just giving "blind" suggestions. What I want to know is if it's a problem with all HDs or just my device is faulty.

kokopipi said:
Internet->Host: 7825 kbps (currently)
Host->Internet (may not be relevant, but give it anyway): 506 kbps
Internet->HD: 1560 kbps (currently)
HD->Internet: can't measure
Host->HD: 340 kbps
HD->Host: 340kbps
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the nerd in me just want to go to your house and troubleshoot this for you in person. LOL... anyway...
what is the file you used to test in each case? the reason i'm asking is that some files are more compressed than others, and the speed we see is the NOT the raw speed -- the capability of the wifi card. but the combined speed of the CPU processing power and the network speed.
long story short, if you are downloading, the data is broken up and transfered piece by piece -- a movie is broken up and transfered bit by bit. depending on the file, the receiver side needs to process these bits and recombine them back together. it's much easyer to recombine a webpage, text file or equivalent. but mp3s, rar/zip or movies are already compressed/encoded with special algorithm, so the receiver processor needs to chew through these data to recombine them, so it won't accept faster than it can "chew".
of course this may not be the reason for your problem at all, but try transferring a large text file (copy and paste text from a website to notepad and c+p over and over, till you have a ~ 10MB txt file).

Even on copy files (not trying to play them, hence no decompression) just copy from PC to HD, no matter what the file type is, the speed is that - 340 kbps. Why don't you just try it yourself?

Take a look at his article: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6440

tnyynt said:
Take a look at his article: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6440
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Does it really improve speed? I find WIFI a bit slower with the yweak installed.

kokopipi said:
Even on copy files (not trying to play them, hence no decompression) just copy from PC to HD, no matter what the file type is, the speed is that - 340 kbps. Why don't you just try it yourself?
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With my HD the same slow speeds. Tried several different hardware. Only HD is slow as hell. WIFI speed tweak does'nt do much, btw.
Some speed results:
WIFI Setting Best Battery / Resco Explorer 7.05: 45 KB/s
WIFI Setting Best Performance / Resco Explorer 7.05: 300 KB/s
WIFI Setting Best Performance / Total Commander/CE v2.51: 600 KB/s
So Resco does not work well with local shares. won't be using that anymore when c/p'ing. Altough speeds are doubling with TC it still is'nt fast imho.
Noone else tried this and encountered the same problem?
Ever find a fix for this?

I noticed the exact same problem last night when trying to play some TV shows over Wi-Fi from my PC. The file played OK for a couple seconds, then stalled
Using "Network Plugin for File Explorer" from HTC, I get an ave. speed of ±340kbps. The speed is the same whether I save to memery MC or phone memory. So the write speed of the MC has no bearing on the problem.
PS. Just tried on my work network with the same results...

Lucky you guys... I at best performance get ~120kb transfer and at optimal I get ~80kb transfer (copy) with Resco on wrt54gl with ddwrt on it

WIFI download speed

hi folks, i dnload youtube clips at only 40kb/s using touch hd on a 3 MB broadband speed on a TOUCH HD
my colleague using the diamond dnloads at 80kb/s.
(NOTE: same connection for both HD and diamond)
both set to best performance wifi.
using W.V.D as client to dnload.
question 1 ) why is it that the touch hd dnloads so slow compare to daimond?
question 2 ) what is "best perfomance and wat is best battery life?

WIFI speeds on HD slow compare to 3G
Yes, I did experience slow wifi speeds via three different 5Mb/sec ADSL routers. I did configure the HD's registry and the routers to to operate on 54Mb/s. I did try to use different wifi channels (to avoid interference). I did try WMM support, I am was in sight of the routers' antennas (not too close), to no avail. The speeds I measured (using dslreports and pocketspeed) were at most 150-200 kbs.
3G (HSDPA) shows sppeds up to 1200kbs.
Please advice

Same problem here, connection via wifi is really limited and slow... Im on a 100mbps... I can barely reach 300KB/sec download

Xeon said:
Same problem here, connection via wifi is really limited and slow... Im on a 100mbps... I can barely reach 300KB/sec download
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omg! 100mbps ? from lebanon?
i'm from singapore and the max braodband speed we have is 10MBPS

Use this g wlan enabler:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6440

bigdeal88 said:
omg! 100mbps ? from lebanon?
i'm from singapore and the max braodband speed we have is 10MBPS
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No not Lebanon, we barely have 2mbps in lebanon .. I am in Finland currently

Vanstra said:
Use this g wlan enabler:
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6440
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I did configure this patch (and more) a long time ago, but still the wifi speed is LOW

from pocketnow :
Note: you need to connect to an 802.11g enabled access point in order to achieve these results. Connecting to a 802.11b will not benefit from any speed increase as "g mode" needs to be supported on both ends.
above sentence i do not get it.. can someone explain?

Slow WIFI connection...

How come I get so slow speeds when copying a file over WIFI from my desktop computer? I get about 420kb/s and when I check the WIFI connection the signal quality is 70% or higher and connected at Tx 54Mbps / Rx 48Mbps.. Shouldn't I get something like a few Mb/s with that connection??
Using Resco Explorer to access shared folder on desktop computer and copy files btw...

Is it set for best battery? If it is, that's the problem.

No.. Best performance...
Any idea why its only giving me 450ish Kb/s? What SHOULD I be getting with 54Mbps?
The WIFI router is a Zyxel P-320W btw.. It supports 802.11b/g..

Preed said:
No.. Best performance...
Any idea why its only giving me 450ish Kb/s? What SHOULD I be getting with 54/48Mbps?
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if you read specification of your phone you should know this, taken from htc homepage
Up to 7.2 Mbps download speed
Up to 2 Mbps upload speed
so i dont think it matters if you got 54/48Mbps
this is my guess to your issue
someone right me if im wrong here..

jaghardittnamn said:
if you read specification of your phone you should know this, taken from htc homepage
Up to 7.2 Mbps download speed
Up to 2 Mbps upload speed
so i dont think it matters if you got 54/48Mbps
this is my guess to your issue
someone right me if im wrong here..
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Damn.. Thats slow.. Can't even watch XViD's over WIFI..

you might want to enable wireless N through either BSB Tweaks or
Tboy2000's thread...it might help?

jaghardittnamn said:
if you read specification of your phone you should know this, taken from htc homepage
Up to 7.2 Mbps download speed
Up to 2 Mbps upload speed
so i dont think it matters if you got 54/48Mbps
this is my guess to your issue
someone right me if im wrong here..
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7.2 Mbps = HSDPA, 2 Mbps = HSUPA
NOT WiFi

So what is the supported WIFI speeds on the HD2? 802.11b/g is supposed to be alot faster than the ~5 mbits I seem to be getting Or is the network(WIFI/HSDPA etc) controller limited to 7.2mbps be it WIFI or through 3G?

Well, those 7.2mbps and 2.0mbps are probably not wireless specifications as they stand for HSDPA connection. Wireless speeds are specified by 802.11 standards, e.g. 802.11a supports up to 2mbps bandwidth, 802.11b up top 11mbps and 802.11g 54mbps. so, these should be the speedlimits for HD2. I have seen that it is possible to enable 802.11n for HD2 but i havent tryed it out yet as I have difficulties using wireless with my HD2 even with the slow speeds.
no matter where I try to use wifi, it works for ~30secs and after that the phone can't find any wireless networks, sometimes even hangs. After waiting for about 1 minute, it finds wifi again and same scenario happens again and again. It hasn't worked right from the moment I took it out of the box. should return it probably but before that, maybe someone has had same problem and knows what the reason is for that?

Ridiculously slow internet speed

Is anyone else getting this problem with internet explorer? Web pages takes forever to load whereas the stock browser on android was much faster. Do you guys have any suggestion on how to fix this, since i have tested the speed at multiple places and still getting the same slow result.

Actually,I found it faster.
Sent from my HD2 running Android on NAND

I thought the internet speeds were very close to what I had on Android
Sent from my HD4.5 using Board Express

what the heck
Thats weird i did all the steps correctly using the guides i dont know its so slow... did you guys do anything special on your phone?

Fasty12 said:
Is anyone else getting this problem with internet explorer? Web pages takes forever to load whereas the stock browser on android was much faster. Do you guys have any suggestion on how to fix this, since i have tested the speed at multiple places and still getting the same slow result.
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I'm with the same problem...

Do you gave 3G disabled, maybe Without 3G web pages would surely be a pain to use.
For me personally IE works like a charm. If this thing would have a password manager it would be my personal favourite mobile browser.

Fasty12 said:
Thats weird i did all the steps correctly using the guides i dont know its so slow... did you guys do anything special on your phone?
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check your APN settings, should show:
APN - epc.tmobile.com
Username - none
password - ****

Oh forgot to mention that i dont have a data plan, use mainly wifi for my internet needs

Navigon downloaded yesterday some 400 MB of maps through my home WiFi and it took no more than 5 min. As i'm on 12 Mbit ADSL I guess WiFi speed is more than OK on WP7.
Never tried IE Mobile through WiFi cause I'm on unlimited data and it makes no sense to use WiFi.

TheOnly1 said:
Navigon downloaded yesterday some 400 MB of maps through my home WiFi and it took no more than 5 min. As i'm on 12 Mbit ADSL I guess WiFi speed is more than OK on WP7.
Never tried IE Mobile through WiFi cause I'm on unlimited data and it makes no sense to use WiFi.
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After upgrading from a 1GB card to an 8GB card I have also a very slow internet connection.
I tried to download maps for Navigon and failed because less storage space.
After changing to an other 8GB µSD card (do a software hardreset & reconfigure my device) I mentioned that syncspeed & downloads are very slow (ethernet & WiFi).
The download of Navigon maps takes aprox. 6 hours. :-( ==> (8Mbit Internet connection)
mobile HSDPA connection seems ok.

speed was awesome withouth sd card for me, with sd card the phone seems to be very slow overall