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Att guy Impressed with TMobile Signal

In Chicagodowntown area, network speed signifucantly better than Att 3G.....especially indoors...get 5 bars in places i didnt even get a signal with att on iphone.
VERY pleasantly. surprised and pleased.

rockky said:
In Chicagodowntown area, network speed signifucantly better than Att 3G.....especially indoors...get 5 bars in places i didnt even get a signal with att on iphone.
VERY pleasantly. surprised and pleased.
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Yeah, here in Austin T-Mobile is the best 3G in town, except for perhaps Verizon. From what my iPhone friends say, AT&T doesn't have 3G nearly anywhere in Austin. Mine is always active and fast as hell.

Both networks recently upgraded... atts evident outdoors, Tmobiles averaging .800kbps with alot of 1500+...especially indoors where you really need it...at least here in in chicago lol

rockky said:
Both networks recently upgraded... atts evident outdoors, Tmobiles averaging .800kbps with alot of 1500+...especially indoors where you really need it...at least here in in chicago lol
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I just switched over to T-Mobile as well after looking at their coverage map (Chicago + suburbs) - coverage has been great. 3G is available west of Chicago where AT&T has a very weak 3G signal. So far no complaints from me with regards to T-Mobile's coverage. I am interested to see how it is this weekend in the basement of the Palmer House.

Funny, tmo tmobile always had the poorest network rep!
Hey havent had a chance to get west... i have family out past sycamore.
Where have you tested?

Houston speed = GREAT!
Well, I just ran a couple of tests with the speedtest.net app and I got in average 1,200 kbps which is way faster than what I used to get with AT&T four months ago when I switched (to get 3G on my G1).
Upload is a stable 384 kbps.
It looks to me that it is capped at 1,200 as it tries to go higher and then just goes down.
It is faster indeed than probably the day I got the Nexus, a week ago or so.
Kuddos for T-Mo!

rockky said:
Funny, tmo tmobile always had the poorest network rep!
Hey havent had a chance to get west... i have family out past sycamore.
Where have you tested?
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I went as far west as Yorkville, then up through Dekalb up to Rockford. I was 3G out in Yorkville and up past De Kalb. Heading north there gets a bit more rural and I was edge until close to Rockford when it was back to 3G. I was impressed as I was under the impression these were poor coverage areas, but it was 3-4 bars the entire time.

I'll 2nd that. In Colorado the N1 on T-mo blows away the signal, data and call quality I had on AT&T w/an HTC WM5/6.

rockky said:
In Chicagodowntown area, network speed signifucantly better than Att 3G.....especially indoors...get 5 bars in places i didnt even get a signal with att on iphone.
VERY pleasantly. surprised and pleased.
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I've been with Tmo for several years now, and have always been happy with their coverage. Even driving cross country. I never understood the BS about Tmo having the crappiest network. I've had the others, and I've had friends with them. And Tmo, more often than not, has equal or better reception.
Dunno...I think it's all marketing BS from the other big three...

We'll be on 3G a lot:..How does Sprint's compare to At&t?

Even in Chicagoo...I've picked up that I'll be on 3G a fair amount of the time especially indoors....
Ha anyone had a chance to do a fair comparison of At&t and Sprints 3G networks please?
I have Nex1 on At&t and am really happy with network data transfer....would hate to take a step back!
Thanks for anyone's experienceswith this.

There's no way you will take a step back. CDMA 3g (EVDO) is tons faster than GSM 3G. It's just faster period. With TMo 3G in my area I was getting 800kb/s which was insane for Tmo. Normally ATT gets a lot worse. I only got those speeds because TMo wasn;t used around here. In Philly I got a lot less. Now Sprint on the other hand gets me at least 1MB/s average use in my area or in Philly. Also Sprint has the fastest internet period. Faster than Verizon too. So when you do get 4G it will be even better than that. But expect at least 1MB/s speeds and possibly a lot more depending where you are.

Well that's great news! But my At&t 3G here in Chicago is rarely under 1M on the Nexus.
Speedtests often have it over 2M. Ive heard only mediocre reports of Sprints network but if Evdo is at those speeds consistantly I'll be a happy camper on 3G!

Sprints network is much more consistent. One thing you have to remember is many times when those speed tests are taken several times in a row is caching can skew the results. I've found sprint to be far more reliable here in se florida. I can remember having to switch to edge many times during prime time because my iphone would just sit there waiting to load on 3g.

LI too am concerned about sprints data speeds. Here in Minneapolis on AT&T's 3g network I always get 1.4+. I easily get over 2 late at night. My friends hero on sprint gets 7-800k 100% of the time. My AT&T 3g only drops to 7-800k when I'm in the far out suburbs. Both the hero and my 3gs are running the speedtest.net app from their respective app stores.
There is a reason AT&T advertises the countries fastest 3g netwok.

chuckhriczko said:
There's no way you will take a step back. CDMA 3g (EVDO) is tons faster than GSM 3G. It's just faster period. With TMo 3G in my area I was getting 800kb/s which was insane for Tmo. Normally ATT gets a lot worse. I only got those speeds because TMo wasn;t used around here. In Philly I got a lot less. Now Sprint on the other hand gets me at least 1MB/s average use in my area or in Philly. Also Sprint has the fastest internet period. Faster than Verizon too. So when you do get 4G it will be even better than that. But expect at least 1MB/s speeds and possibly a lot more depending where you are.
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That is not true at all, gsm is much faster than cdma...or has the potential to be. Right now it is at par with cdma, a bit ahead actually, but not my astronomical amounts.
But honestly, who cares, because at&t has such ****ty 3G coverage that it doesn't matter if it is faster, sprint has really good 3G coverage(WAY WAY more than both at&t and t-mobile), and when you aren't in sprint covered areas, you get to use verizons towers due to a deal sprint and verizon made. They average around 900kb/s more or less, during heavy daytime use, it can go to 750kb/s. It gets a high of around 1.3mb/s.
For those interested, sprints 4G network gets an average of 4-6mb/s.

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That is not true at all, gsm is much faster than cdma...or has the potential to be. Right now it is at par with cdma, a bit ahead actually, but not my astronomical amounts.
But honestly, who cares, because at&t has such ****ty 3G coverage that it doesn't matter if it is faster, sprint has really good 3G coverage(WAY WAY more than both at&t and t-mobile), and when you aren't in sprint covered areas, you get to use verizons towers due to a deal sprint and verizon made. They average around 900kb/s more or less, during heavy daytime use, it can go to 750kb/s. It gets a high of around 1.3mb/s.
For those interested, sprints 4G network gets an average of 4-6mb/s.
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Not true at all, cdma is fundamentally superior to gsm. GSM is used around the world because it is the cheaper older technology.

TickLe MY eLMo said:
That is not true at all, gsm is much faster than cdma...or has the potential to be. Right now it is at par with cdma, a bit ahead actually, but not my astronomical amounts.
But honestly, who cares, because at&t has such ****ty 3G coverage that it doesn't matter if it is faster, sprint has really good 3G coverage(WAY WAY more than both at&t and t-mobile), and when you aren't in sprint covered areas, you get to use verizons towers due to a deal sprint and verizon made. They average around 900kb/s more or less, during heavy daytime use, it can go to 750kb/s. It gets a high of around 1.3mb/s.
For those interested, sprints 4G network gets an average of 4-6mb/s.
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IMO at&t is crap, the only reason they are even semi-popular is because they got the iphone on a 4-year contract with apple. Biggest complaint of iphone users is the dropped calls with at&t.

I just switch myself from at&t to Sprint and also got HTV EVO I use to be iPhone Owner
now iPhone is a good phone but coz of at&t networks piece of **** ... but man I m loving EVO its amazing ..

mrono said:
IMO at&t is crap, the only reason they are even semi-popular is because they got the iphone on a 4-year contract with apple. Biggest complaint of iphone users is the dropped calls with at&t.
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My biggest complaint is in fact dropped calls. Maybe 1 or 2 a month, but the data speeds I see with At&t are much, much faster than Sprint or Verizon in*MY* area. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/62NT3_cZ7mz7n3hZf0GafQ?feat=directlink During the day I get 1.4+, but I generally test late late a night when I get home from work.
I spend 90% of my time using data on my phone, so the slower Sprint/Verizon network in *MY* area is a real concern for me. A dropped call now and then isn't.

I have the at&t N1 and get 2Mbps+ on avarage.
With Sprint (i have the EVO that was given at google I/O) i get really bad speeds on EVDO (with good signal)
I have never yet seen it go over 1Mbps. ususally get 300Kbps and i tested in mutiple places.
This is considered VERY slow and i really hope this is just an issue with the radio of the EVO whcih can be fixed.

Damnit..... Just what I was afraid of.
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I have the at&t N1 and get 2Mbps+ on avarage.
With Sprint (i have the EVO that was given at google I/O) i get really bad speeds on EVDO (with good signal)
I have never yet seen it go over 1Mbps. ususally get 300Kbps and i tested in mutiple places.
This is considered VERY slow and i really hope this is just an issue with the radio of the EVO whcih can be fixed.
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rockky said:
Damnit..... Just what I was afraid of.
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My sig is my average speed using USB tether on my Hero from my house in knoxville TN...
sometimes i break 2.25 mb down on late nights when the network doesnt have much traffic

Current Sprint customers: What speeds are you seeing on Sprint EVDO?

I have the EVO that was given out at the Google I/O so it is my first time with Sprint. It is one hell of a device.
I ran some speed tests all over the SF Bay Area and the EVDO speeds are total crap. Can't really call it 3G.
I get between 250Kbps - 700Kbps where the upper end is RARELY achieved . 90% of the time i see 300Kbps...
Are these typical Sprint speeds on 3G? or is there something wrong with radio on the EVO? (I am not sure if the firmware that is currently on the device will be the shipping firmware as some things are missing like the QIK video conf and TV OUT settings/app).
When i get 4G (rarely) the speeds are great (5Mbps down).
Curious what other Sprint customers are seeing on 3g.

San Francisco... specifically in the Outer Mission district... show on average 1700kbps down and 600kbps up.
I only get that 300kbps you're talking about when it is midday and my coverage bars only show one or two. But that's rare.
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yeah...Im fearing a 3G speed letdown going from att N1 to Sprint Evo.

rockky said:
yeah...Im fearing a 3G speed letdown going from att N1 to Sprint Evo.
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They really aren't...I don't understand why people think sprint has a crappy 3G network, theirs is very comparable to verizon with speeds, but about halfish the size, maybe a bit more than that. Coverage with sprint is WAY better than at&t and t-mobile, speeds are a bit slower but not enough to cause a heart attack or anything...

check the sig... tether from my house

I get about 1.1Mbps down / 300Kbps up from my Palm Pre around Charlotte. Pretty stable as long as I have at least one bar. The Pre is one of the worst phones I have had for reception though so...

I get 700-1200kbps in good service on 3G. I can't wait to test out 4G.

Here in Boston I get between 1.6mb to 2.1mb constantly.
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TickLe MY eLMo said:
They really aren't...I don't understand why people think sprint has a crappy 3G network, theirs is very comparable to verizon with speeds, but about halfish the size, maybe a bit more than that. Coverage with sprint is WAY better than at&t and t-mobile, speeds are a bit slower but not enough to cause a heart attack or anything...
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I dont know SF very well but in t mobiles coverage and speed defense.. on my HD2 i got 4.3Mbps.. i was with my son outside the science museum. perfect 3g coverage.. home in NYC i get upwards of 5mbps. daytime-afternoon goes down to about 3.2Mbps. i came to T mobile from sprint. left sprint when hd2 came out. i must say t mobile is smashing sprint with coverage and speeds for me. with sprint i never got over 2.7Mbps no matter where i went. (i had the touch pro)

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I dont know SF very well but in t mobiles coverage and speed defense.. on my HD2 i got 4.3Mbps.. i was with my son outside the science museum. perfect 3g coverage.. home in NYC i get upwards of 5mbps. daytime-afternoon goes down to about 3.2Mbps. i came to T mobile from sprint. left sprint when hd2 came out. i must say t mobile is smashing sprint with coverage and speeds for me. with sprint i never got over 2.7Mbps no matter where i went. (i had the touch pro)
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Must just be a new York thing..
T mobile ass here
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I dont know SF very well but in t mobiles coverage and speed defense.. on my HD2 i got 4.3Mbps.. i was with my son outside the science museum. perfect 3g coverage.. home in NYC i get upwards of 5mbps. daytime-afternoon goes down to about 3.2Mbps. i came to T mobile from sprint. left sprint when hd2 came out. i must say t mobile is smashing sprint with coverage and speeds for me. with sprint i never got over 2.7Mbps no matter where i went. (i had the touch pro)
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If you look at the maps, sprint really does have a much larger 3G network than t-mobile, it all depends on where you are though to be honest. T-mobile is definitely faster though, never said it wasn't, i was specifically talking about SIZE not SPEED.

1000-1500 average in Denver and St. Louis.
Used to be higher last year, but network either slowed or more users. Not quite sure.

brownhornet said:
Must just be a new York thing..
T mobile ass here
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T-Mobile sucks in the Bay Area. Can't see more than 1Mbps, not to mention indoor 3G coverage.

1380 down, 670 up
Location is Lower Pac Heights in San Francisco

in Brick NJ, seeing a consistent 2.3-2.5mbps down, 900k up.

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1380 down, 670 up
Location is Lower Pac Heights in San Francisco
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This is common in the San Francisco Bay Area - all the way from Pacifica where I work to San Jose. Morgan Hill/Gilroy (deep South Bay) is where Sprint needs to turn up the coverage. The best I've averaged is 600kbps down there.

Tmobile sucks in miami..struggling to get 700kb down..

clubtech said:
I have the EVO that was given out at the Google I/O so it is my first time with Sprint. It is one hell of a device.
I ran some speed tests all over the SF Bay Area and the EVDO speeds are total crap. Can't really call it 3G.
I get between 250Kbps - 700Kbps where the upper end is RARELY achieved . 90% of the time i see 300Kbps...
Are these typical Sprint speeds on 3G? or is there something wrong with radio on the EVO? (I am not sure if the firmware that is currently on the device will be the shipping firmware as some things are missing like the QIK video conf and TV OUT settings/app).
When i get 4G (rarely) the speeds are great (5Mbps down).
Curious what other Sprint customers are seeing on 3g.
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In Philadelphia I get between 600 and 1200 kbps d/l during peak and offpeak respectively. While I was in Las Vegas last week I could not get better than about 500 kbps d/l so I think 3g can be pretty variable. Good to hear you are getting nice 4G speeds.

Sprint Hero using the FCC speed test app:
Downtown Nashville, TN
2.03 Mbps down
566 kbps up
337 latency
For some reason the speed test app does not work with 2.1 on my hero. Not that I care, because I will have an EVO in my hands very soon!

Speed test comparison does not mean anything
unless you state what browser and what test you used. There can be a huge difference in results from browser to browser and test site to test site. With Skyfire I get 14053 Kbps down and 1816 up. Same test with Opera 3587 down and 890 up. Same test with uZard 14586 kbps down, 12053 kbps up. Using Brighthouse speed test. Huge difference. Opera mini will not run the flash test on Brighthouse.

T-Mo To Double HSPA+ Speeds By 2011!

T-Mobile To Double Speed By 2011
Eat that Sprint 4G!
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T-mobile is much better than Sprint because they aren't scumbags to their customers by charging an extra $10/mo just to nickel and dime them...

This can't come soon enough.
I was holding a HTC Incredible in one hand and my Nexus One in the other. Full bars on mine and only 2 bars on the Incredible. Site after site, the Incredible loaded faster. Ran SpeedTest on each and the Incredible did better each time.
I didn't think my N1 was slow by any means, but the Incredible was really quick in loading sites and general navigation.
My SpeedTests for my area never get above 1mbps down.

I can't wait. Given, I get plenty speed in my area (around 5MB up), 10 wouldn't hurt!

Sprinj
Wow, bring it on! Sprint is already left in the dust

My city has yet to be covered by HSPA+, but I can't wait for when it hits! SO MANY market downloads...

AT&T Needs to get the ball rolling with HSPA+ grrr.

ATT is crap. If i could get out my family ETF then i would be going to tmobile just for their HSPA+.

I'm in a T-Mobile HSPA area here in Vegas.
I get 5 Mb/s Downloads and 1.3 Mb/s upload

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I'm in a T-Mobile HSPA area here in Vegas.
I get 5 Mb/s Downloads and 1.3 Mb/s upload
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Where in Vegas? Im in North West and I normally get 3mb down and 2.5 up

eh whatever.
how about just provide better 3G coverage everywhere?! HSPA+ is nice but they don't even have it where I live.

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Where in Vegas? Im in North West and I normally get 3mb down and 2.5 up
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Henderson, South East. I was getting over 4mb down every time, and I still get 1.3mb up no matter what.. it got faster on FroYo builds.
CM6 I dropped down to like 2.5 Mb/s and the same 1.3 Mb up. but a little tweaking got me back to about where I was.

xguntherc what were the tweaks.
P.s. there won't be a huge speed increase mainly because there are few HSPA+ devices out there to take full advantage of this.

i would much rather see tmobile get better coverage before 10mbps speeds.

Nice.. I was up the mall the other day and asked the t-mobile people when can we expect faster speeds and she said they told her by end of 2010 beginning of 2011. I thought she was full of SH*T since we just got 3g a few months ago but it's listed as "Coming soon" on the coverage map. I can't wait..

Dang, you guys are lucky. Im in North Las Vegas and my 3G goes back and forth but luckly i use wifi in my home. When im near the strip i get good speeds though. I hope they expand just alittle bit north though.

This is very funny. In the UK T-Mobile is so crappy I doubt we will be seeing any investment in new hardware over here!
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i would much rather see tmobile get better coverage before 10mbps speeds.
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Amen. I'm so sick of losing all data connection when I walk in a store. I enjoy tmobiles speed as is I just wish it would work regularly. And forget a road trip or any coverage between cities. Seems the main places I need a data connection are the places t-mobile doesn't cover. I don't need it around my house, I need it in stores and on the road. Off topic but I'm also waiting for google maps to be available offline that'd ease my concern a bit

Im convinced its a myth.
Im in NYC and by all means should have it. I never get past 2mb in manhattan and easily drop to 2g in the boroughs.
You evidently have to be underneath a tower with a sattelite dish to get it here.

I call BS on this as well.
I'm lucky to see 3G at all. When I do see it (in areas other than where I live, where I rarely spend time), I've never hit above 300-400kbps.
As I sit here at work. No 3G... 65kbps.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Sprint already has 4G up here, too. My EVO friends rubbing it in my face.
It's awesome that I pay $160 a month for two Android phones on T-Mobile and don't even get close to the 3G coverage or connection speeds they're seeing.

T mobile vs. Verizon 3G

My samsung vibrant on t mobile
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My wife's samsung fascinate on the nations largest 3G network.
Both pics were taken around the same time and right next to each other, I took the pc of mine from my wife's fascinate, and the pic of hers on my vibrant.
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My wife's fascinate
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Cool Did you say where you live?

i was pulling down 6Mbps the other night
suck it, verizon

this is the reason i ditched verizon. most places i was hitting .6-.8 mbps and i almost hit 5mbps with tmo on my vibrant.

Verizon's service was a lot slower at times, but I REALLY miss having 3g literally EVERYWHERE
T-Mobile 3G isn't even in every major city here in Northwest Arkansas....let alone the rural areas

Tmobile has the fastest 3g around hands down. I have tried sprint and att. Both are slower, noticeably slower and the thing is t-mobile hasn't even started 4g or lte lol
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Tmo does have hspa+ though which can have an impact on data speeds depending on where you live
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Tmo will beat everyone on speed but man good luck on finding it. Sprint was slower but everywhere

T-Mobile is the fastest 3G carrier in the US right now IF you live in a HSPA+ area.

The real question is why does your wife have the outrageously high priced verizon while you sport the more economical t-mobile? Business issued?
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There are two main reasons Tmo typcially tops in speed:
Tmo has the fastest hardware right now. This will change, of course, seeing as both ATT and Verizon are working on their 4G networks and Tmo has no plans to go to 4G for the next two years. It is worth noting ATT and Verizon will have LTE not WiMax.
Tmo has a lot less customers so there is less demand on their towers. Less demand means faster speeds for those that do have Tmo.

T-Mobile is increasing 3G coverage a bunch recently. They just gave Puerto Rico 3G coverage and I've been hearing of other places getting 3G recently.
Verizon 3G is much slower here, you can hit 1.9Mbps but you're usually under 1Mbps like T-Mobile 3G before HSPA+. 3G coverage isn't all that either, EV-DO drops out sometimes at my house but I can't complain.
3G is also slightly on JI2 now that the -dBm reading is more accurate within the Android system. The Vibrant grabs onto a 3G signal much better than ANY phone I've had on T-Mobile. (G1, CLIQ, myTouch, TM506, TouchPro2, Nuron).
This is what I typically see with T-Mobile. Data speed is much better than all 3 of the carriers combined here for me. Still needs work in some areas though! Not going to lie.. but overall, it's better.
You would be lucky to get 500Kbps with AT&T or Verizon during peak hours. The Sprint EV-DO network is taking a huge hit due to the new smartphones on their network. It went from being underutilized to being over used.

As a former verizon/sprint/att/and uk versions f#ckee, ive never been more happy with a carriers service/price.
Tmo Hpsa ftw ..see sig

98classic said:
Tmo will beat everyone on speed but man good luck on finding it. Sprint was slower but everywhere
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Sad but true. I'm TM all the way, but F#$#, I hate how it's so limited still to a small area. Granted they are still expanding...Anyway, here's my pictures below...
I wouldn't quite knock Verizon...they'll kill TM on coverage on the mainland...but in some areas TM kicks @$$ over all....
Here's the true coverage ranking, hate it or love it, it's real:
1. Verizon
2. AT$T
3. Sprint
4. T-Mobile
Don't get me wrong, I get sick speeds...super fast...but only in certain areas...
My speed test pic is below...

Sprint coverage is way below T-Mobile coverage. 3G yes but I'd like to keep my calls.

heygrl said:
Sprint coverage is way below T-Mobile coverage. 3G yes but I'd like to keep my calls.
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As a trucker having gone through all 48 states with both carriers this is just not true
Well maybe in WU tmo might have slight better coverage

98classic said:
As a trucker having gone through all 48 states with both carriers this is just not true
Well maybe in WU tmo might have slight better coverage
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Roaming on Verizon in most of those states no?
When you lose the signal in a big city you can't just roam the rest of the time because the phone will try to pick up the weakest bit of Sprint signal. Sprint drops out often here. Deadzones in stores where T-Mobile manages a good usable signal? Check. Signal drop outs when driving down the road? Check. Lesser amount of coverage overall? Check. Dropped calls when signal fades and roaming switches over? Check.

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Roaming on Verizon in most of those states no?
When you lose the signal in a big city you can't just roam the rest of the time because the phone will try to pick up the weakest bit of Sprint signal. Sprint drops out often here. Deadzones in stores where T-Mobile manages a good usable signal? Check. Signal drop outs when driving down the road? Check. Lesser amount of coverage overall? Check. Dropped calls when signal fades and roaming switches over? Check.
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Lol must be the vibrant that sucks then cuz in a 1000 mile stretch of road I might get 3g 3 times for a few minutes, and speed is the worse while moving,. Just last night in portland, stopped, in the driver seat I had 3g, if I moved back to the sleeper 3 feet away it dropped to edge. Might be the phone that only gets 3g in wide open spaces like a satellite