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Cupcake eating my donut!

I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?

donut is almost identical to cupcake, for now.

vishurao said:
I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?
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So you have flash in the browser

Yeah, there hasn't been any work done in the donut branch yet. So, at the moment, it's the same code as 1.5

nabzilla1990 said:
So you have flash in the browser
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Build is broken for the browser. I was getting a lot of compilation errors. Didnt look that deep into it. Just removed browser app from build structure.

you got any update for us to see or some pic

Smokuevo said:
you got any update for us to see or some pic
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First thing i saw was Settings->About Phone.
It said Firmware Version 1.5. Build number 1.5 Cupcake.
i didnt take another second to flash Jf1.5. took me 1 whole day to solve compilation issues and saw 1.5 cupcake in the end.

Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.

jashsu said:
Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.
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Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?

vishurao said:
Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?
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You've been reading too many rumors.

2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.

DeadPhoenix said:
2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.
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Not to mention FLASHPLAYER!!!

frim what i had seen of the build timeline, it apears that 2.0 may actualy get skiped, there currently working on 3.0

i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary

siriuz said:
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.

siriuz said:
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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That's because Google didn't add flashplayer, HTC did. The source tree is the open source code from Google. I'm talking about the closed source version that HTC is working on, on there own, for the HTC Hero. Improvements made by outside companies won't show up in the Google source tree.

here's' your flash player live and on a G1 like you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&feature=player_embedded

jashsu said:
Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.
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It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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hmph. i find it rather annoying that you guys are listening to this forum that is simply using a completely pre-alpha build i provided to give you guys feedback.
the browser they have in that build has the flash player libraries, if you run the browser test, flash is supported.
the profile (which i posted earlier) does not mention flash, thus websites doesn't believe we have flash. above that, the browser.apk is INCOMPLETE as i've been saying.
flash IS supported, and WILL work, as soon as i receive the tutorial build.
please stop posting rumors discovered on any other website. unless it is stated directly by me, Darkrift, or anyone else who is officially testing my latest roms.
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testing567 said:
It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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That flash plugin is a HTC product, not a part of the AOSP. I'm referring to rumors of flash in the AOSP, although frankly we haven't seen anything promising about the HTC flash plugin either, aside from a screenshot of the plugin directory.

Any chance of getting Moment Rom to work on Hero?

Just wondering if anybody has tried to get a Sprint Moment rom to work on Hero? (following the thread of making Hero a vanilla Android )
PS.. JBQ announced that he released some of the android 2.0 source code.
Thanks

dailypush said:
Just wondering if anybody has tried to get a Sprint Moment rom to work on Hero? (following the thread of making Hero a vanilla Android )
PS.. JBQ announced that he released some of the android 2.0 source code.
Thanks
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Why not just delete SenseUI? Im pretty sure that would be a lot easier.

There is absolutely nothing in the Moment to warrant doing the work

Negrito said:
Why not just delete SenseUI? Im pretty sure that would be a lot easier.
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If that were possible -- including getting rid of all the bloat HTC added to the dialer, People app, etc. -- I would do it in a heartbeat, myself. As it is, completely stripping SenseUI has proven to be impossible.

Try this - Kill the Sense process, delete all the data for HTC Sense in applications/settings. Hit the home key and see if you can set "Home" as the default.
After that - root the ***** and kill off the bloat using the guides posted here

c4sp14nx said:
If that were possible -- including getting rid of all the bloat HTC added to the dialer, People app, etc. -- I would do it in a heartbeat, myself. As it is, completely stripping SenseUI has proven to be impossible.
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I'm pretty sure you could remove enough of it, or else the gutted ROM wouldn't be on here....

interesting. I want the DivX/Avi support the Moment has.

themyst said:
interesting. I want the DivX/Avi support the Moment has.
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That would have been nice, but i already re-coded all the media i wanted on my phone. I just used Visual Hub's(Mac program, btw) default settings for the iPhone and they look great.

Can't have it all I guess? (Not really a rant thread)

Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college

Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]

Love the FAQ sig lol

mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.

Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro

mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem

JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time

JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.

Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer

shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!

Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.

JAguirre1231 said:
iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!

Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...

fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?

Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.

Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.

What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time

Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it

Froyo to support animated gif

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3422#c151
See comment 151. I wonder why you need a lot of RAM for that. So I guess only the Nexus One and the Milestone and the future high end Android phones will be able to display animated gif.

NexusDro said:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3422#c151
See comment 151. I wonder why you need a lot of RAM for that. So I guess only the Nexus One and the Milestone and the future high end Android phones will be able to display animated gif.
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Cyanogen's latest ROM already does!
This is why rooting is the way to go..

Eclair~ said:
Cyanogen's latest ROM already does!
This is why rooting is the way to go..
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5.0.6? And in the browser?

Does it support only in the browser? Or will it support it in the gallery too.
I always get those neat forwards...but they always show up as a video and it kind of sucks

mudrock1000 said:
Does it support only in the browser? Or will it support it in the gallery too.
I always get those neat forwards...but they always show up as a video and it kind of sucks
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The changelog for Cyanogen rom is here: http://github.com/cyanogen/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/eclair/CHANGELOG
Looks like he took Google's source and added it to the browser, but it doesn't say anything about animated .gifs in mms's

mudrock1000 said:
Does it support only in the browser? Or will it support it in the gallery too.
I always get those neat forwards...but they always show up as a video and it kind of sucks
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I use handcent messaging app. It shows all the gifs when people send em...

Oh well i just remember I came from Cricket and a samsung messenger (I didn't need a smartphone back then) and it always looped the gif, and played it in the gallery. I kind of miss that lol.

They work perfectly in the browser. Don't know about just normal gallery..

Eclair~ said:
Cyanogen's latest ROM already does!
This is why rooting is the way to go..
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Some people don't want to run other rom's on their phone.

GldRush98 said:
Some people don't want to run other rom's on their phone.
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I know, but there is really no negative effect other than voiding your warranty. Well, at least in my eyes. Cyanogen is a very trustworthy ROM distributor..

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Some people don't want to run other rom's on their phone.
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Amen. I rooted my g1 but I just don't want to anymore. Plus I feel like I shouldn't have to. Google should take care of us, and I'm sure they will I just wish they'd throw us a bone

cyanogen has added this function from google's code drop to 5.0.6.

mcampbe said:
cyanogen has added this function from google's code drop to 5.0.6.
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Where do I get this?

Not stable yet, still testing. If you feel of a mind I spied the download over at his site.

Eclair~ said:
I know, but there is really no negative effect other than voiding your warranty. Well, at least in my eyes. Cyanogen is a very trustworthy ROM distributor..
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I rooted day one.
I will likely never run another rom other then the one from Google.
I played the whole rom game on Windows Mobile and it never made me happy.
I'm not doing it with my beautiful Nexus One

DMaverick50 said:
Amen. I rooted my g1 but I just don't want to anymore. Plus I feel like I shouldn't have to. Google should take care of us, and I'm sure they will I just wish they'd throw us a bone
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Then you shouldn't expect the updates at the same rate rooted owners get them, you get major updates fast compared to the likes of iPhone OS and Web OSs

GldRush98 said:
I rooted day one.
I will likely never run another rom other then the one from Google.
I played the whole rom game on Windows Mobile and it never made me happy.
I'm not doing it with my beautiful Nexus One
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Same here. I'm rooted but stock as well... custom roms just aren't for me...

True about Flash and Froyo

So I was browsing the Internet to see how cool is to have Flash on Android device, I was sure Adobe improved flash due to many many criticizes about it but I was wrong.
I know(actually I think) that Google did his part, and improved speed and usability in Android, but Adobe still needs a LOT of optimization!
In this video you will see following because of installed Adobe Flash:
-Slow page loading(even though Google improved speed in Froyo!)
-choppy performance
-instability
-huge CPU and RAM usage
Android 2.2 (Froyo) Web Browser Test with Flash enabled
In my opinion don't install Adobe Flash Player
Don't get me wrong guys I love Android 2.2 and Google openness, but ADOBE needs to work...A LOT!

What do you expect? It's a beta release.

Rusty! said:
What do you expect? It's a beta release.
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Than they shouldn't release it, it is useless!
Apple was right...I can't believe that is true!

This really bugs me, its FAR from useless. I have used it to play music from the myspace music players, games on kongregate, a liveleak video, and on the burger king website. It works great, if you keep it on demand and not on all the time, it won't even slow down your browsing. If you really think that this is useless, and shouldn't be released, then you are an idiot. It may not work 100% yet, but this is a huge step forward for the Android platform, and I for one am thankful that I have it on my Nexus. If you don't want it, you can uninstall it, it's that easy. Stop being whiny idiots and complaining about how it slows this down or uses too much CPU.

You can go into your settings and set the Flash plugin to "On demand" which essentially switches it off until you browse to a site with Flash content when you will see a play button. Press that button and the Flash will load.
Perhaps that should be the default option, but nonetheless, simple to change and is definitely the way forwards in my view.

i don't browse flash based website all the time, so it doesn't bother me at all. at least i know the mobile browser is fully functional for all websites.

Its Beta for a reason "Testing purposes"

benko286 said:
Than they shouldn't release it, it is useless!
Apple was right...I can't believe that is true!
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Calm down. It's not even hardware accelerated yet. I for one am glad I've got any flash support this far.
If you only wanted something that's 100% failsafe go grab a parchment and quill

I hope the op isn't trolling. Adobe released the beta version for adventurous people to try it. If you don't think it is ready, then fine, just unistall it. No need to jump into conclusion when the final version isn't even out yet. The argument 'then they shouldn't release it (the beta version)' is rather weak because we are talking about a beta version here, which is expected to have flaws here or there...

flash works fine for me...and it definitely doesn't leave my browser sluggish...seems to be faster than the 2.1 browser even with Flash enabled...so I dunno.
Also, the Froyo browser is a fully capable HTML5 browser as well...so no, Apple wasn't right, Google was right...options > no options. I could understand if Google was anti-HTML5 but they are not, in fact as witnessed in the Day 1 Keynote of Google I/O they are one of HTML5's biggest supporters.
They just refuse to abandon the PRESENT to feed the future.

at least we have the option to use Flash.
You can change the plugin settings in the browser to load on demand so it will only load the flash content if u click on it.

Seriously, some people need to learn what "BETA" means. u_u

it's funny.
I was reading this and went to cnn and I was watching that oil spill vid.
And then someone called me. The vid stops and I talk on the phone to a
co worker and then hang up after about ten minutes. After pressing the end call button the video starts back up in the browser.
I thought that was pretty cool.
It's better than I thought it would be, and I'm pretty happy to have it.

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I hope the op isn't trolling. Adobe released the beta version for adventurous people to try it. If you don't think it is ready, then fine, just unistall it. No need to jump into conclusion when the final version isn't even out yet. The argument 'then they shouldn't release it (the beta version)' is rather weak because we are talking about a beta version here, which is expected to have flaws here or there...
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Exactly - It's a standalone app that can be uninstalled if you so choose to. I may feel differently if it was integrated. Not sure what Google's plans are when the final is released though.

Don't get me wrong guys I love Android 2.2 and Google openness, but ADOBE needs to work...A LOT!

benko286 said:
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You need to understand what the term "beta" means before you word vomit all over the internet.

uberingram said:
you need to understand what the term "beta" means before you word vomit all over the internet.
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uberingram said:
You need to understand what the term "beta" means before you word vomit all over the internet.
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They should call it Alpha..in my opinion it is far from beta-.-

benko286 said:
They should call it Alpha..in my opinion it is far from beta-.-
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Other than huge flash sites its awesome for me. I think its easily almost done.

Yeah initially flash slowed down my browser but once I switched it to ON DEMAND only everything is perfect. The thing I like about android is that I have the CHOICE to use flash if I want. I don't have to let apple choose for me. And when html5 matures and is mainstream I will have to choice to use both.
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