Anyone can suggest a good or at least something that work properly on Desire, application that can control startup application to save memory?? I have tried autostarts, but dont think they are good. I have disabled certain apps, and then after reboot, I check using the Estrong task manager, and some of the same app still there, and I have to kill them manually again. So what's the point of this app?? Thank you for sharing...
How about "Startup Auditor"?
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vesperaNovus.app.StartupAuditor/
Do they have a demo or trial?? I am just afraid of wasting money for another "crap" app. Have you tried on Desire? does it work?? I am a little worried, cause the average comments on that app is not really good??
When you buy an app, you have around a week untill you can get a refund, the first time you buy it.
So buy it, if you dont like it after couple days, get a refund.
No charges are made on your card till after this start up peroid.
How about Free Apps?? what is it?
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lots of unnecessary apps start with the phone. how to edit the startup list and remove them?
i think i misunderstood the question. can you clarify?
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i think i misunderstood the question. can you clarify?
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so for example photoshop mobile starts with the phone, i dont want it to.
found an apk for startup auditor on some place. but its not exactly effective. some apps still startup, and some others dont even show up there.
You have to have root to do that, don't you?
i would think so. on all my old winmo phones you could get into the root directories and just delete crap from the startup folder, or insert crap. i do have a proccess killing app that will one click shut down whole masses of backgroud apps. called advanced task killer. (caveat here; i'm just learning android)
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You have to have root to do that, don't you?
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its not some really low level task im asking for. im an android noob yet, but i would think that telling skype it doesnt need to start with the phone should be trivial.
also why does maps keep starting up?
god and startupauditor itself keeps starting up after a while.
really could use a better app manager that tells apps not to start unless explicitly asked for.
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its not some really low level task im asking for. im an android noob yet, but i would think that telling skype it doesnt need to start with the phone should be trivial.
also why does maps keep starting up?
god and startupauditor itself keeps starting up after a while.
really could use a better app manager that tells apps not to start unless explicitly asked for.
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This shows that people don't understand how android works
ATK's are useless, and perhaps have caused a lot of grief for people when installing.
There is a great program called AutoStarts that I've used, but im not sure if root access is required(I used it on my Droid with root).
You may also check at the application itself, and look into the settings that it has and try to see if you can disable startup options.
I used the free app called APP Killer. It is in the market for apps 4th or 5th on down from the top. I turned off 5 things I never new were running in the back ground. MY batt. has lasted from Tuesday at 4pm (full charge) until this morning. I left the 3G on all the time to see what would happen. I text about 50 messages a day to,
App Killer is free.
Hey guys, T-Mobile is implementing a new program with their My Device program for Android devices called Device Tune-up, in beta form. From reading everything, I guess it's essentially another task-killer. I'm going to give it a shot. Anybody else willing to try?
From T-Mo:
Background:
T-Mobile is continually looking for ways to bring new innovation to our customers. Within the My Account application, we are adding new functionality in the My Device section called Device Tune-up. Device Tune-up is built to run in the background at all times and ‘tune-up’ the device by closing unused services that are running.
Device Tune-up is different from most task killers because it does not require you to do anything. Device Tune-up will default to 'on'. While on, Device Tune-up proactively closes services to help the device and battery perform at their best. Most pre-loaded applications will not be affected by Device Tune-up. For our non-technical users, this may mean you never even realize Device Tune-up is running; your device may simply run better.
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Download & instructions here
I installed as soon as I saw them tweet it, and I must say I'm pretty impressed, it works very well. More people should try it though, I would like to see what others think of it.
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well they pulled the link before i got a chance to dl. says it'll be up again tomorrow.
are you seeing any of the said improvements?
Does anyone have the APK? They pulled the download for the night.
http://www.4shared.com/file/lhr3ePUm/My_Account___Beta.html
how can i run this in a non TM devices?and also not a t-mobile user........?
I downloaded this, but it does not allow you to turn off pre-installed apps. That's a major loss and pretty much renders the thing useless. Advanced Task Killer works much better in this department.
I'm going to give it a shot and see if it works okay. I don't use a lot of the apps that are req to stay on and not kill so it may work great for me. I'll see in a day or two.
That's weird I installed it but I don't see the device tune up part anywhere and I'm not on wifi. Also I read this on the download page:
If, after installing the beta, you do not see Device Tune-up on the Quick Tools menu, it means that your device was placed into a control group experience. To opt out of the control group experience and be able to see Device Tune-up, long click on the Phone Info line under Quick Tools tab and choose to ‘opt-out’ of the control group. You will then see Device Tune-up.
I followed the instructions and I long press on the phone info part under quick tools and nothing happens or I don't get any option to opt-out. Anyone else having this issue? Does this app work on nexus one running froyo?
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That's weird I installed it but I don't see the device tune up part anywhere and I'm not on wifi. Also I read this on the download page:
If, after installing the beta, you do not see Device Tune-up on the Quick Tools menu, it means that your device was placed into a control group experience. To opt out of the control group experience and be able to see Device Tune-up, long click on the Phone Info line under Quick Tools tab and choose to ‘opt-out’ of the control group. You will then see Device Tune-up.
I followed the instructions and I long press on the phone info part under quick tools and nothing happens or I don't get any option to opt-out. Anyone else having this issue? Does this app work on nexus one running froyo?
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try installing apk manager from the market then install it from there thats what i had to do to get mine to work
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That's weird I installed it but I don't see the device tune up part anywhere and I'm not on wifi. Also I read this on the download page:
If, after installing the beta, you do not see Device Tune-up on the Quick Tools menu, it means that your device was placed into a control group experience. To opt out of the control group experience and be able to see Device Tune-up, long click on the Phone Info line under Quick Tools tab and choose to ‘opt-out’ of the control group. You will then see Device Tune-up.
I followed the instructions and I long press on the phone info part under quick tools and nothing happens or I don't get any option to opt-out. Anyone else having this issue? Does this app work on nexus one running froyo?
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try installing apk manager from the market then install it from there thats what i had to do to get mine to work
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What do you mean? I installed apk manager and all it does is show me all my apps installed. And I do see the myaccount app in installed but there's nothing else to do....did I miss a step?...... Thanks
I got it and installed it through the apk manager as you stated and installed the app but it still doesn't show device tune up or holding long pressing the phone info doesn't give me the option to opt-out....
after you install it open up my device go to quick tools and press and hold on phone info then you get a pop up asking about the control group thing
Yeah I've tried this like 100 times today, nothing happens I hold "phone info" it highlights green I hold it nothings pop ups asking me to opt out. I've installed and reinstalled the app through the apk manager and without it and it just isn't working. I have nexus one running froyo (latest update) am I missing something????
Its for 2.1 devices only
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Ah....well then there you go. Thanks
This app is so completely pointless. Except for the percentage meter, which I am testing to see if I get battery battery life with no percentage widget running. I don't like the 1-10 scale the settings menu has.
This is basically how it works for me. Since I know how to end programs using the back button method , I go to my "My device beta", go to end tasks, and every task I would like to kill says "cannot kill pre-installed app".
Facebook, twitter, all sorts of dumb S*** has to be left running. Personally I hate the mail app because it lags and the gmail app is better, so I would like to close mail along with FB and many others. Would it be so terrible if T-mobile made these things optional.
Any one agree/disagree? care to argue?
I agree that this is useless. I have tried it for a few days now and it has done nothing. I still (out of habbit) go and click my task killer and it constantly is still killing apps that this beta is missing. I purposely opened some and let them run in the background for several hours unused and it still did not kill them and they were not stock apps so it should kill them just fine. Anyway, I still use my task killer to save battery so nothing has changed except I lost a few min of my life tinkering with this. Not worth the time.
I've gotten about 2 extra hours (from 10 to 12 hours) of battery life after installing this. There are plenty of articles explaining how advanced task killer is actually a battery drain, and is really only used by people with a microsoft windows mindset. TMOs app runs a bit differently and actually kills tasks that are running in the background, not just holding memory (I'm not going to explain the differnce, as its been done 100x already).
I give the app a good rating.
I have the Mugen battery THANK GOODNESS or my Streak would be dead in the water ALL THE TIME .. For those of you that have that battery, I get a long time on a charge. It started telling me a few days ago that I had almost nothing left on the battery at the end of the day where it used to last for a few or more days .. I removed the battery when it told me I had nothing left .. Left it out for a minute .. Put it back in and now it says I have a full charge.
This is a list of my running apps from a fresh start ...
Slide It
Zeam
Visual Voicemail
Dell Settings Storage
Fring
Handscent
White Pages w/ Caller ID
Ebay
EM List
LogMaster2
Quick Office
Quick Office
LogService
Package Checker
LOTA
Gallery
Assistant Free
Dell Sync
Gmail
Amazon MP3
Messaging
Google Search
Market
Clock
I have ** Advanced Task Manager running ALL THE TIME ... and throughout the day I will click on it to END ALL .. it does but they mysteriously start up again ..
I also have ** Startup Cleaner Pro. I have gone in there and told it which ones to NOT allow .. does no good most of the time.
My Streak is the Beta unit with the Froyo update .. I purchased that 'root' program .. have NO IDEA how to use it actually.
Any thoughts ?? What are your ALWAYS RUNNING apps?
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE !!
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I was expecting this to be some thread about athletics or jogging
Amazon Mp3 drives me crazy. I have never used it and see no purpose for it running at all. Quick office... 2 instances? Advanced task manager running at all times?
You need to get an app that will show you the services that will run at boot up. I use ES file manager and ES Task manager. With the task manager, I can go to the services portion and kill what I don't need. There is even a way to set apps like Amazon to stop running at boot and that's what you need to do. Your list below with my comments on each one
Slide It You have Swype, do you need this?
Zeam I use it t0o, with Dell stage no choice, I know
Visual Voicemail another something used as a matter of choice
Dell Settings Storage do you use this? if not, disable
Fring shrug
Handscent another shrug... choice again
White Pages w/ Caller ID do I need to shrug again?
Ebay up to you
EM List system service
LogMaster2 system service
Quick Office doesn't need to run at all unless you're using it
Quick Office doesn't need to run at all unless you're using it
LogService run by system
Package Checker run by system
LOTA run by system (like error reporting in windows)
Gallery only needs to be active when you're using it
Assistant Free do you use it?
Dell Sync do you use that rag software to sync your device? if not, heave ho!
Gmail running if you want your email to always alert you
Amazon MP3 should not be running if you're not using it
Messaging leave it alone if you like texting
Google Search should not be running if not being used
Market should not be running if not being used
Clock app or wiget?
The long and short is this... go through the list with a services app and disable at startup what you don't want running. Also check yourself on the live wallpapers... those use energy.
Well i can say from experience fring will eat your battery. It burned through 15% of my stock battery in 45 min when i installed it (and stabilized after uninstalling). Also, might look at this post explaining why your battery showed empty, then full once you pulled it / plugged it back in:
http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?t=8300&highlight=Mugen
I am using Autostarts to keep these items closed for good. And since I don't have an unlimited plan I am also using Droid Wall to restrict most apps to accessing the internet over WiFi only.
From what I can tell you is that that's not what he's talking about. The battery is basically 2 batteries linked together. So 2.2 is reading it like this. Did your 2.2 before read it perfectly? Because as another guy said (finding my post on another forum, and as I wrote you a private message but you never answered ) you cant correctly read the battery readings and 2.2 together.
So ill go into my system panel and kill all apps. Ill have about 160mb of memory free. Then the launcher obviously restarts and system panel and my widgets all start back up, but what i dint hnderstand is why do thi gs like google voice or the music player start up in the background if i havent even used them? They start up almost instantly....
How can i make sure **** stays off?
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Start up manager or similar from the market. Take care though, if you block something that system wants to be launched, it may keep attempting to launch it, leading to high battery consumption
Some app include a service, which they are executed in background. If the service is maually stopped, android can launch it again.
There are many application on the market which stop periodically these app. The point is that if it has a service, there is a reason, and by stopping it, you can obtain a strange comportment.
By example, in the first version of Android, gtalk was used for the authentification on android market, it is very strange but it was like that. The user was not informed of this link which was a kind of transparent. So if you stopped gtalk, you were not able to go on the market.
Do you need a lot of RAM? If yes uninstall the application you don t use, but I advise you to not stop mannually or automatically the application on your phone.
I guess thats how android functions as such. I tried stopping these programs so many times using apps from the market, but it starts again n few minutes. So its like we are wasting our time trying to kill apps.
Autostarts and/or Android Optimizer will stop any unwanted apps from running constantly. Works for me but just make sure you know what you are doing so you don't stop something you need (as described above)..
Hi there! I'm sure a lot of the frequent Xoom posters know me by now. If you don't, you will see my name a whole lot around these parts of the XDA forums.
Anyways, I am here to put up my second helpful tip for the Xoomers out there. I use this method myself and it works great. I mentioned it a few times in other people's threads, but now I want to turn my info into another helpful tip thread of mine for all to see. Then I'll add it onto my Xoom Heaven thread under my personal threads section.
The Instructions:
Also short, sweet, and to the point, just like my last tip. Does your Xoom seem to wait around at boot up for processes to load before you can use the OS? Would you like to just boot up and go with little to no waiting around? Here's what you'll want to do to achieve that:
Non Root Users: Download the app called Autorun Manager. This app actually has options for both non rooters and rooters alike. The app is free, so I would suggest it for anyone to use.
Root Users: Download the app called Autostarts. This is my favorite app, as it is specifically for the root users only. It is a paid app, but is well worth the little bit of money it costs to purchase it. This gives you complete and full control over every aspect of apps booting up during specific tasks.
The App Downloads:
Autorun Manager
Autostarts
Here's what I said in one of the other threads about the boot time:
"A lot of times, apps will attach themselves to the startup list even though they do not need it, such as a game. Why would you want a game booting up with your Xoom? I wouldn't, that's for sure. It's pointless, takes up memory, and it makes the boot time worse.
For the most part: Wipe out every single one of the startup apps that are not a part of the system, or as many as you need to. If you disable the user startup apps, you will have a more solid boot time no doubt. Almost none of the apps you install will ever need to boot up with your Xoom, unless you want it to. For me, I keep only a select few apps at startup such as: Equalizer, AdFree, and SetCPU. And chances are, if you have a ton of apps... your startup list will be massive, to say the least when you load up the app for the first time."
So basically: Download one of the 2 apps I have listed for you above, and remove any or all of the user installed apps that have placed themselves into your startup list. Only disable apps from the startup list that you know are useless to you, otherwise just leave them enabled if you have a use for them. After doing so, you should notice that when your Xoom boots up that you will be able to start using it immediately. No more waiting around for those useless hidden resources and processes to gather themselves.
If you like my tips, please let me know. I will cook up a few more threads here soon with these same kind of helpful tips if this is what the people want. They will all be available on Xoom Heaven so that they will always be there for everyone to see.
And as always, if this information was helpful to you: Don't forget to send a thanks my way.
thx for ur tip =)
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Autostarts:
And as always, if this information was helpful to you: Don't forget to send a thanks my way.
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I grabbed autostarts paid from the market but which start up list do you use... i noted there was a couple.. during start up or after startup...
during start up i have: calander and contacts storage
after start up i have: A MILLION THINGS lol
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I grabbed autostarts paid from the market but which start up list do you use... i noted there was a couple.. during start up or after startup...
during start up i have: calander and contacts storage
after start up i have: A MILLION THINGS lol
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The one with a million things in the after startup list. Good luck!
cheers mate i thought that may be the case but because it was 'after boot' i also thought it may be the necessary stuff that starts once boot had finished
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cheers mate i thought that may be the case but because it was 'after boot' i also thought it may be the necessary stuff that starts once boot had finished
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That's definitely the correct one as the other startup managers list the same exact apps upon startup. You can double check that in the basic mode of Autorun Manager as a cross reference.
I don't notice any difference (using Autorun Manager).
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I don't notice any difference (using Autorun Manager).
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Changed thread name to fit appropriate for what it does. You still get a better boot time, just not from the initial dual core logo to lockscreen. Sorry for the confusion. It was late and I confused myself. This tip still works wonders. This tip will help you to get up and go from the lockscreen. Virtually no waiting around for anything to boot up before you can start using the OS. Once your screen comes up, you can start going.
this is exactly what I was looking for, TNX
Definitely be care with this, since it is easy to misunderstand why an app is loaded at boot. For example, you might wonder why an alarm app needs to, where actually it needs to schedule alarms at boot time.
Does anyone know whether it is safe to disable the Mobile Data service on a wifi only tablet? I cannot really see why it should be activated in the first place.
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Definitely be care with this, since it is easy to misunderstand why an app is loaded at boot. For example, you might wonder why an alarm app needs to, where actually it needs to schedule alarms at boot time.
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Indeed. For the most part though, junk apps will appear in the startup list that have no purpose at all so they can be disabled. If there is a particular app that you know has a purpose for something you use, then by all means let it be. For example: I leave SetCPU on the startup list so that I can keep my settings on both the clock speed and undervoltage values just so I won't manually have to activate it later.
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Does anyone know whether it is safe to disable the Mobile Data service on a wifi only tablet? I cannot really see why it should be activated in the first place.
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I did this on my 3G Xoom, which is not activated, and there is nothing to worry about. No problems at all. If you don't use mobile data at all ever... I say disable it from the startup list just as I have, especially since it's the Wifi model.