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Hey everyone, Picked up a Vibrant last night, but ive run into an interesting issue.
The market is SOOO laggy. It takes up to 30 seconds to go between the main Market screen and the download screen (without any spinner). No data is going up or down, during that process. Also, when downloading\installing an app...it takes another 30 seconds or so after I hit install for the Okay or cancel options to come up (they came up instantly on my G1).
I cleared all my market cache, market downloader, etc and I am rooted.
Anyone w/ a suggestion or advice. This market issue is really a deal killer, as it takes like 5 minutes to install an app, let alone do several updates.
Thanks!
Seriously.....no one is having issues w/ the market lagging hardcore?
No issues here.
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zimphishmonger said:
Seriously.....no one is having issues w/ the market lagging hardcore?
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Not this bad, no.. but it does spend too much time on the loading page.
I noticed that too. it was on my Nexus too, I thought there was something wrong with the ROM, but now its on Vibrant as well. It was never this bad about a month ago.....
Same issue here, at first it was really, really bad and I had some other general lagginess. I did a factory reset and that seemed to help. It still has lag when compared to my MT3G Slide, but it definitely improved. I read somewhere that a lot of this lag is caused by the way the memory partitions are set up. Not sure about that though. Hopefully a firmware update with fix a lot of these issues. Fingers crossed.
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Well maybe its not unique to the vibrant?
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I believe this has a lot to do with the stalling issue that was reported before. I did experience the market lagginess you're talking about, but its gone now after applying the app data storage fix. This fix is a temporary solution until Samsung has something official.
Link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727279
(Sorry I couldn't post the full link because the moderator won't allow new users to post a link)
Interestingly enough, I attempted to isolate this issue, and I found it doesnt happen on a non-rooted phone, but as soon as I root it, the issue reoccurs. Very strange, considering rooting this phone does very little to it. Anyone w/ similar results? I will try the app data fix until Samsung makes something official, but at this point, the market is barely usable. I am even considering returning the phone if I cant get the results improved before the 30day grace period is up (although I really dont want to...this phone is great otherwise)
I also noticed that downloads never finish according to the market, they say "installing" indefinently, even though a "app was successfully installed" notification appeared, and the app can be run.
I have not had this issue on my vibrant, however on 3g it does take alot long to load as expected i guess, but I have not experience what you are, my vibrant is rooted as well and i have not applied the stall fix
I've noticed a little lag with the market right before I got my Vibrant using my Nexus One.
Well, glad others are having similar issues and its not just me. I am using WiFi to ensure 3g isnt causing the lag, and Ive completely wiped everything in order to try and diagnose this issue. Please post any suggestions or tips you have found helpful, thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Interestingly enough, I attempted to isolate this issue, and I found it doesnt happen on a non-rooted phone, but as soon as I root it, the issue reoccurs. Very strange, considering rooting this phone does very little to it. Anyone w/ similar results?
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I have had lagging issues, but not in the Market and certainly not as bad as you. I finally just rooted and applied the fix to move apps to NAND and my lagging issues have subsided a lot. Just wanted to let you know that I have had no Market lagging issues at all - rooted or unrooted.
I THINK I HAVE TRIED ALL OF THEM BUT THEY SEEM TO WORK FOR LIKE 30 MINS THAN THE PHONE LAGS AGAIN. WHICH ONE WORKED FOR YOU?
this guys phone is so smooth wow wish mine was like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq-Gj6iE8CE
THIS ONE. ....3DAYS AGO NO PROBLEMS OVERCLOCKED W/SET CPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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So I've only had my phone a week or so and I haven't noticed this lag everyone seems so concerned about it. When does it occur?
I've tried a few and found Chainfire's to be the best so far (v1.8).
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751513
I can't say I noticed a ton of lag before trying any of these fixes (although I do have ~200 apps installed) but after CF's fix my phone just flies.
dcontrol said:
So I've only had my phone a week or so and I haven't noticed this lag everyone seems so concerned about it. When does it occur?
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Mines just as fast as the video without the fix, I came from a n1 with 2.2 on cyanogen rom and this phone is just as fast. I've been running this same rom since release, rooted and have over 120 apps installed. My market is easily just as fast as the dudes video in the OP.... maybe I'm lucky, or I don't know. I did a fix and didn't realize a difference .
I'd like to see a side by side comparison with a sgs with the lag fix and one without... then again I don't have a gps issue either, well its useable easy.. use it daily.
Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
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Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
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Get Xscope V5 (V6 is buggy) browser for free x-labs.net and use it for a day or two. Notice how slow it loads webpages sometimes. Or try Miui Browser (not in market) GUI lags a little too
The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
The 'lag' that you see people complaining about does not happen on all phones, all the time.
And I need to remind you to be careful about installing any lagfix. Read up on what it does and how it may affect your phone BEFORE installing it.
Raistline said:
The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
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Agreed, you might think the phone is fast now but when you install the lag fix you'll definately notice a difference.
It amazed me when I had to go back to stock (after soft bricking my phone) and I had to install rom manager from the market while everything was stock and it was crazy how slow it was.
heygrl said:
I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
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Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter is a troll, just read their posts. Where did I say "fresh reboot"? Nowhere!
N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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Am interested in seeing said video.
Here is a video I took a while back. I'd be interested in seeing the lag. I know someone with a DROID X, behavior is exactly the same when opening apps. It was the same when I installed the lag fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1Q2qlRNwE
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
knurdle said:
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
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You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
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You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
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I think you're right. It doesn't make sense that facebook would be so bad.
Everything else is pretty much okay.
I think I'm going to try one of the other ROMs. Just need to find some time.
Also, I'm dreading having to go through the whole process of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything. I might have to try titanium backup so that I don't have to do that.
So, she has a few issues with her phone. Overall she likes it, but it seems sluggish and also has some minor issues with it not ringing and other minor problems.
Now, I'd like to tweak it for her a little, to get a little better performance and reliability. I don't want to take her too far down the modding path, though.
What would you recommend? Is there an OTA update to GB forthcoming, should I maybe just wait for that?
Irishdoom said:
So, she has a few issues with her phone. Overall she likes it, but it seems sluggish and also has some minor issues with it not ringing and other minor problems.
Now, I'd like to tweak it for her a little, to get a little better performance and reliability. I don't want to take her too far down the modding path, though.
What would you recommend? Is there an OTA update to GB forthcoming, should I maybe just wait for that?
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2.4 is already out on the phone. You can take it into the store and they can update it
neidlinger said:
2.4 is already out on the phone. You can take it into the store and they can update it
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+1...my wife was having weird issues too and a hard reset would only fix it for a little while...she has no intrest in modding...she has updated to 2.3.4 awhile ago and has not had any issues yet...
Since I upgraded to the official Oreo build 2 days ago it seems there is an increased delay from button press to app opening. It doesn't seem to be app dependent. Anyone else experiencing this?
mlin said:
Since I upgraded to the official Oreo build 2 days ago it seems there is an increased delay from button press to app opening. It doesn't seem to be app dependent. Anyone else experiencing this?
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I would have agreed on day one but since it's been running really good on my XL. I'm 100% stock.
dhaugru said:
I would have agreed on day one but since it's been running really good on my XL. I'm 100% stock.
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Thanks for chiming in, I've had the exact opposite experience. Super smooth and fast day, declining since then. I'm 100% stock as well. Maybe I'll start fresh from scratch
mlin said:
Thanks for chiming in, I've had the exact opposite experience. Super smooth and fast day, declining since then. I'm 100% stock as well. Maybe I'll start fresh from scratch
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I did a factory reset after I installed the OTA. Maybe worth a shot. My beef is my exchange email seems to be spotty on syncing. I keep getting the "Gmail is running in the background" notification on my nav bar. It's annoying and I think it's sh*tty Gmail trying to sync my work exchange account.
dhaugru said:
I did a factory reset after I installed the OTA. Maybe worth a shot. My beef is my exchange email seems to be spotty on syncing. I keep getting the "Gmail is running in the background" notification on my nav bar. It's annoying and I think it's sh*tty Gmail trying to sync my work exchange account.
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Thanks for the heads up. I suppose I'll try it. The fact that you are the only one who responded is reassuring that it isn't likely an inherent issue with Oreo
Nope nothing, no delay whatsoever here. Clean install via ADB.
Clean flash through fastboot image. Phone is flying. Response is definitely better than N
No app dely for me but not sure if I'm the only one but say that I'm in an app I back out onto another app then a pop up/ad comes on. Anyone else with this issue?
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yeah hit and miss in my opinion, mostly faster and more smooth, every now and again the phone will hang for about a second lucky is not very often, I suspect this has something to do with the OS closing apps to help with battery life new feature
It seems to be getting better for me. Performance seems on par with Nougat while also seeming a little smoother. No new apps, updates, etc. Delay persisted through reboots. Not sure what changed but definitely seems to be improving.
mlin said:
It seems to be getting better for me. Performance seems on par with Nougat while also seeming a little smoother. No new apps, updates, etc. Delay persisted through reboots. Not sure what changed but definitely seems to be improving.
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Have you tried turning the animation speed down in the dev options settings? I had to instantly with mine. They just linger on a bit too long for my taste.
1x speeds good and smooth for my Oreo Pixel xl.