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Best web browser?

Opera is dreadful on the hero, the basic browser is weak.
Any others to use?
cheers

What exactly is wrong with the built in browser?

I would prefer to see the full page directly, not that zoom. And the scroll should be more reactive and not make the webpage move that much. I prefer the iPhone way, sorry

There is also a problem with some services. I travel a lot and in some hotels I'm not able to log in. When there should be a name/password screen, nothing shows for example. Also some radio stations won't stream.
So if there is an option, I'll try it.

You could try Steel.

I don't like the iPhones broeser. It always has to try and catch up with its self

robboy said:
I don't like the iPhones broeser. It always has to try and catch up with its self
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Really?? What does that even mean? I'm not referring to the bad grammar, but the comment itself? Catch up with itself?

I know what he means, say you start moving around the web page quick it is like the cpu can't keep up and can't load it up fast enough so the web page breaks up then loads when its caught up if that makes any sense.

one other major problem that i have found with teh browser is that it actually changes the code of websites - in particular, it seems to disable file uploads. this is a big problem.

Jabbypants said:
I know what he means, say you start moving around the web page quick it is like the cpu can't keep up and can't load it up fast enough so the web page breaks up then loads when its caught up if that makes any sense.
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Iphone GS doesn't do that anymore FYI (well almost never I'm sure you could find a site to do it but its significantly, like 98% reduced over the Iphone 3g).

Aridon said:
Iphone GS doesn't do that anymore FYI (well almost never I'm sure you could find a site to do it but its significantly, like 98% reduced over the Iphone 3g).
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I was only referring to the Iphone 2g/3g those i have used, didn't explain myself properly.

Wow awesome find TruBrit Steel is quality

bgorin said:
I would prefer to see the full page directly, not that zoom. And the scroll should be more reactive and not make the webpage move that much. I prefer the iPhone way, sorry
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the browser got way better with the MoDaCo ROM so try that for improved smoothness.

thenewshaft said:
Wow awesome find TruBrit Steel is quality
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Steel has a nice interface. I like the function of a virtual icon in the corner... no need to press menu to bring in the adress bar...
The only major drawback which made me uninstall the application is the lack of zoom function.

deeren said:
Steel has a nice interface. I like the function of a virtual icon in the corner... no need to press menu to bring in the adress bar...
The only major drawback which made me uninstall the application is the lack of zoom function.
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Steel has Zoom function.... hold down anywhere on page and Zoom away with the
popup menu...
//Nik

nikjensie said:
Steel has Zoom function.... hold down anywhere on page and Zoom away with the
popup menu...
//Nik
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ya , but it didnt seem to be working on the hero. maybe there's a new version. i'll check it.

Just used it yesterday and even though it's not a very smooth zoom, it is a zoom...
//Nik

I have been using steel for a couple of days and find it very good

Web Browser experience

Does a modern html5 site like this http://sammystodos.brandonaaron.net
works on Nexus One or Desire?
It seems that the browser doesn't support standards as much as safari on iPhone..

Chrome is by far the best browser on the market, followed by Opera.
Eventually they will merge everything that desktop's Chrome can do into Android..
But so far - yes, that website works fine, except for editing the fields that you added. I assume that can easily be fixed by tweaking the site itself.

I can confirm that its working on the nexus one with to stock browser.
Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Works for me with the stock browser.
Sent from my Nexus One

DarkDvr said:
Chrome is by far the best browser on the market, followed by Opera.
Eventually they will merge everything that desktop's Chrome can do into Android..
But so far - yes, that website works fine, except for editing the fields that you added. I assume that can easily be fixed by tweaking the site itself.
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Which "Chrome" browser are you speaking of? I see a couple that say they only replace the logo, but none claiming to be anything different than the stock browser.

Sorry can u post a screenshot because I tried it in an emulator and I just see the background

No problem

Thanks a lot!
Rusty! said:
No problem
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Rusty! said:
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Can you actually type?
I tried it on the Desire browser and it looks exactly like yours, but I cannot type. Holding the Menu button to bring up the keyboard doesn't work either.
Checking the checkboxes and using the trash can icon to delete items do work.

pjcforpres said:
Which "Chrome" browser are you speaking of? I see a couple that say they only replace the logo, but none claiming to be anything different than the stock browser.
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Google Chrome browser. I understand that Android is running a simplified version of Chrome on the PDAs.
http://www.favbrowser.com/chrome-vs-opera-vs-firefox-vs-internet-explorer-vs-safari/

Paul22000 said:
Can you actually type?
I tried it on the Desire browser and it looks exactly like yours, but I cannot type. Holding the Menu button to bring up the keyboard doesn't work either.
Checking the checkboxes and using the trash can icon to delete items do work.
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Ah, no... same on the stock browser

DarkDvr said:
Google Chrome browser. I understand that Android is running a simplified version of Chrome on the PDAs.
http://www.favbrowser.com/chrome-vs-opera-vs-firefox-vs-internet-explorer-vs-safari/
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So the stock Android browser?

The Android browser isn't Chrome. They're both WebKit based though.

Rusty! said:
The Android browser isn't Chrome. They're both WebKit based though.
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Yeah I know.. but I betcha they use a lot of the same code.
Why rewrite the whole thing of they're both based on WebKit and Chrome obviously has awesome code.

I think the N900 might have the best mobile browser, my brother has one and it's pretty slick.

Lazarpandar said:
I think the N900 might have the best mobile browser, my brother has one and it's pretty slick.
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How is it better?

It's Fennec, which can do everything Firefox can do, including making use of the desktop addons, and it supports Flash 9.4

This will be an ongoing problem with HTML5.
"how does it look on this browser ??"
This is what people dont get about Flash. You have complete control over how everything looks. You dont have that control in HTML , everything is still browser dependent.
Not saying this cant be ironed out..but the impression that a <video> tag is going to solve HTMLs shortcomings is silly. As it stands the browsers are already divided over codec support.

Hi guys, i wanna take advantage of this thread to now more real-life web browsing issues.
How well works this sites on the N1 or HTC Desire browser? (without adding any ad-hoc apps)
- www.facebook.com (does the chat work?)
- www.google.com/reader
- www.google.com/analytics
- www.youtube.com/html5 (how well run the html5 video)
Can u compare them to a normal web browser or iphone?

Here is a fix for the jerky zoom in the stock browser!

I do not take credit for this fix. I just came across it on phandroid.com Check this out:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-sup...id-browser-different-pinch-zoom-behavior.html
I hope this helps some of you!

I actually used it and it does help. I didn't notice but now that I did, I'm questioning why I even used the other way

So people don't have to hunt for it:
I was able to disable this annoying zooming behavior on my HTC Incredible with stock Android 2.2/Sense. Here are the steps I went through: Enable debugging options by typing "about:debug" into browser address bar. Then go to Menu > More > Settings. Scroll down to settings under "debug" heading. You should see the option "Enable GEP zoom", and it will be turned off. Turning it on will give you the Google zooming behavior.
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Awesome tip, thank you for bringing to my attention.

Agreed great tip!

Dude thanks!

I like that...thanks op. And the other op
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

So basically this disables the reflow of text when zooming in the browser. I don't notice a difference in smooth zooming, both on and off it looks the same to me. The difference like I said is reflow of text. I like that function so I will have to leave the setting as off.

it works great, but you have to keep on going into debug mode to use it

Doesn't bring up a menu.. I get a java toolbox. Running fresh.
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This does prevent the reflow of text, but it does fix one annoyance I've had since i got the EVO.
In a modern smartphone browser, the page should follow your fingers as you zoom. So where ever you touch on the page should follow your fingers as you spread/close them. This means that if one finger stays still and the other one moves, the page should stay put under the finger that hasn't moved. This is the way other browsers work and it helps to zoom so that you can expand the page and keep it centered where you want to see. The EVO browser does not work this way. Try it and see. Keep one finger still and the page will still move under the still finger. Grr.. You have to zoom then let go and recenter on the area of interest. However, checking this option makes the zoom work properly this way. This is at the cost of reflowing the text, which I rather like though. So its a tough call which way I would like more.
Anyhow, thanks OP. Nice find

After doing the fix, does anyone have the problem of it reverting back to the old style, even if the box is checked?

Nothing pops up when I type about:config into my browser.
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joshpdavis80 said:
After doing the fix, does anyone have the problem of it reverting back to the old style, even if the box is checked?
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Yup, I had that problem. So I just downloaded that dolphin browser to fix the zoom

Pushed the updated one to my phone, starts to play the startup sound, then hangs.
Running Fresh Evo 3.2.0.0 ManUP's theme, and unrevoked forever

Rydah805 said:
Nothing pops up when I type about:config into my browser.
Sent From My HTC Evo Using Tapatalk Pro!
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Use about:debug, not about:config.

Rydah805 said:
Nothing pops up when I type about:config into my browser.
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Typing about:debug will not pop up anything. It will add new menus in settings.
The changes you do in the debug menu are temporary. The browser goes back to normal settings after its been closed.

Can someone try to port over the desire(flashable) version of this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786290&page=3

soxozor said:
Can someone try to port over the desire(flashable) version of this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786290&page=3
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Did you try to flash it yourself? I'm going to flash it in a bit...
Edit: It works, just looks ugly as balls, gonna do a little work on it..
Edit2: Im going to take a guess and say that the only thing edited is the debug xml file, so im assuming that if you replace the xml file from our browser.apk with the one from theirs, it should work. im doing that right now.

I personally tried to flash it but got fc.

Opera Mobile 11.1 Update, preferred browser; Flash support and User Agent changeable!

I don't know if you guys know already, but Opera Mobile browser has been updated to 11.1, bringing along a whole lot of goodies, including flash support and user agent changes.
One thing I did notice was that typing lag on facebook seemed to have diminished, this was on desktop view, however still unable to type through some pages with "disqus"
I also found HD 720p videos on youtube has greatly improved! It might be just me, but frames seem to be a whole lot better as opposed to dolphin HD and stock browser.
Frames also drop a bit when viewing full screen 720p in browser, but its watchable.
A link to change log can be found here: http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2011/06/30/opera-mobile-11-1-has-arrived
Temporary Fix to search bar always going to mobile search (must apply apply every time you reset Opera), Credit to iCracked
Hey everyone, I have found a fix for those of you frustrated with the old google mobile search. once you have switched UA to desktop, go to google.com manually, it should load up the full site. Now, using your finger, press and hold over the google.com (website's) search bar, to bring up the menu. Now select "add search engine" then go to your browser search bar and tap the little google icon to bring up a list of search providers and select the new google one, be sure to delete the old one to avoid confusion.
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Thoughts/Opinions?

youtube.com/my_speed doesn't play in 720p mode - 0fps
I'm running prime 1.5 with netformer kernel @ 1.5GHz

Adkinson said:
youtube.com/my_speed doesn't play in 720p mode - 0fps
I'm running prime 1.5 with netformer kernel @ 1.5GHz
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yes, I noticed that too, but I made some video comparisons with a few 720p videos that I watched on different browsers, and it seems Opera seems to perform better. Only my judgement though, and I'm judging on real world performance, not an in app browser test to judge what I can see.
I am running Honeycomb 3.1 stock unrooted

and its fast!!!! not the flash. everything else. no keyboards lag ... Google you need to learn something or maybe buy opera.

yizhaq79 said:
and its fast!!!! not the flash. everything else. no keyboards lag ... Google you need to learn something or maybe buy opera.
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Opera is known to introduce its own optimizations, so that's why it's the best in terms of Javascript performance showing zero lag in text input. Finally, Flash support is available! How did they manage to do that without Honeycomb source code?

memory usage is pretty bad tho. 170mb right now on xda wtf?

I'm guessing that the Flash support doesnt work with the hacked/hulu Flash? Opera isn't picking up my Flash but it works in every other browser...

Seems to work well and without any redraw issues when scrolling quickly. Good spot.

nice...will have to give it a try when i get home.
Last night i did a second reset. trying to run my tablet without any downloads for the moment and monitoring performance.
disabled javascript, flash on demand, and the browser was beautifully working. opened up links super fast, then.........
i hit the back button (lower left on screen)...the page does nothing. i press again, and this time it takes me 2 pages further than i wanted...damnit
then when i go from landscape to portrait, the damn quick scroll guide (added in 3.1) is stuck in the middle of the page...
all of a sudden..it crashes. no message, no warning, just straight back to home page. wtf... shame, because i love the layout of the stock browser.
But. Opera..here i come

Loving it. It's REALLY quick, feels 4x quicker than the stock browser, and more intuitive too. I also just tried their desktop browser, Chrome killer or what!!!
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Opera keeps on randomly zooming in on certain links when I click them. This is extremely annoying when using the touchpad as the mouse is plenty accurate enough.
Any way to turn this off?

Anyone successfully seeing flash videos in the new Opera using the 10.3 hulu hacked flash?

Google searches from the address bar or search box still use the mobile google site even with the UA set to desktop.

Did they also increase the font size on 11.1? The font size on previous version were much smaller then default browser, and dolphin HD

lehoule said:
memory usage is pretty bad tho. 170mb right now on xda wtf?
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That's precisely why you don't see any redraw while scrolling. The stock browser uses less memory because it doesn't load the whole page, instead only loading the portion of the page that you are currently viewing. This translates to choppy performance because it has to reload the page every time you scroll up or down, but leaves more memory for the rest of the OS to work with.

I hate tabs on this thing. Hidden, huge and ugly.
Also it renders fonts badly (some letters are to close, some are too bold comparing to stock browser or Dolphin).

scrolling is jittery no where as smooth scrolling as default browser

Magnesus said:
I hate tabs on this thing. Hidden, huge and ugly
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I like them out of the way. They are hidden on my desktop that sports a full hd screen, I see no reason to keep them on sight on a "tiny" screen
Anyway, they didn't update Opera link, I was kinda hoping they will, so to get the most out of Opera 11.50....... oh well. One day.

earlyberd said:
That's precisely why you don't see any redraw while scrolling. The stock browser uses less memory because it doesn't load the whole page, instead only loading the portion of the page that you are currently viewing. This translates to choppy performance because it has to reload the page every time you scroll up or down, but leaves more memory for the rest of the OS to work with.
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Oh yea that is wayyyy better. Not like I use all the 748mb anyway
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rilot said:
Google searches from the address bar or search box still use the mobile google site even with the UA set to desktop.
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Hey everyone, I have found a fix for those of you frustrated with the old google mobile search. once you have switched UA to desktop, go to google.com manually, it should load up the full site. Now, using your finger, press and hold over the google.com (website's) search bar, to bring up the menu. Now select "add search engine" then go to your browser search bar and tap the little google icon to bring up a list of search providers and select the new google one, be sure to delete the old one to avoid confusion.

wow

I have been using ice cream sandwich 8 hours now and I am very impressed. I am using flexreaper and am blown away. The speed of the stock browser is kick ass. The pages flip or scrolls almost to fast and too smooth. I was not expecting this much , dam good job to all that made it happen. Now I have a kick ass tab.

Yeah, I'm running Taboonay 3.0.1 and love how smooth it is. was using it in the McDonald's at the truckstop I'm parked at for the night and the browser was super smooth (loving the little tab on the side when scrolling up and down). not using the stock launcher (am using ADW) but for the short time I did it was nearly flawless. I can't get over how quick and smooth it runs in general, if the "leak" or ROMs based on it are this smooth I can't wait for the official release (and hopefully Acer doesn't screw the pooch between now and then)

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Yeah, I'm running Taboonay 3.0.1 and love how smooth it is. was using it in the McDonald's at the truckstop I'm parked at for the night and the browser was super smooth (loving the little tab on the side when scrolling up and down). not using the stock launcher (am using ADW) but for the short time I did it was nearly flawless. I can't get over how quick and smooth it runs in general, if the "leak" or ROMs based on it are this smooth I can't wait for the official release (and hopefully Acer doesn't screw the pooch between now and then)
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Is it laggy when you move through system settings?

For me there is no lag anywhere at first Tabooney installed here as well. After all day using the web browsers I noticed it was getting slow. I went to settings apps browser and cleared cache and it helped. the browser experience to me is like the browser cant exactly keep up with the OS it sometimes seems to be a bit shaky and text artifacts .Typical for a new release of say firefox would often do on a super fast computer. But its a very small issue for Such improved speed. Chrome browser will STOP and end at a black screen for me quite often . i would say avoid it until they give another update or 6.
I have tried some of the other roms as well and they all seem very similar. AWESOME WORK FROM THESE GUYS ON SUCH A SHORT TIME.

Yes. I agree. It's like I have new tablet, speed is amazign and stock browser is great too.
I have one question. I installed chrome for android (beta) and every websites load in "mobile version". Is there any option to get classic desktop version of website? I didn't find anything in settings

I am using Taboonay and it is working great!! ICS is going to make the A500 even that much better!!

Belda said:
Yes. I agree. It's like I have new tablet, speed is amazign and stock browser is great too.
I have one question. I installed chrome for android (beta) and every websites load in "mobile version". Is there any option to get classic desktop version of website? I didn't find anything in settings
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Yes.. open chrome.. click the settings icon in the far top right corner. down near bottom of list you will see Desktop mode. check mark that..

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Yes.. open chrome.. click the settings icon in the far top right corner. down near bottom of list you will see Desktop mode. check mark that..
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That is weird. I don't see anything like that. (check my screenshot)
Anyway thank you for your answer

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That is weird. I don't see anything like that. (check my screenshot)
Anyway thank you for your answer
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Do the same thing again, and when you get the drop-down list, select Settings. See if the option is there.

Moscow Desire said:
Do the same thing again, and when you get the drop-down list, select Settings. See if the option is there.
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I already did that, but there isn't any "desktop option".

Belda said:
I already did that, but there isn't any "desktop option".
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Ok. I just checked mine, and I use Dolphin HD from the market.
On my status bar (with dolphin HD open and on a page, say Cnn, I select the settings in the taskbar, More, and select MobileView) You can toggle this between mobile and desktop by selecting it. Note that it will always say MobileView. Just press it, and Select Dolphin HD for doing the action. Page should change.
This should work for you. But you have to be on a web page.

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Ok. I just checked mine, and I use Dolphin HD from the market.
On my status bar (with dolphin HD open and on a page, say Cnn, I select the settings in the taskbar, More, and select MobileView) You can toggle this between mobile and desktop by selecting it. Note that it will always say MobileView. Just press it, and Select Dolphin HD for doing the action. Page should change.
This should work for you. But you have to be on a web page.
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I know how to do it in Doplhin, but I have problem with Chrome.
Now I use ICS Browser + and it's great. It's like stock browser but with some upgrades.

omg i so told you very wrong.. You are correct that setting is not there in Chrome.. ITs the new stock ics browser. OOPS.
sorry op dingy moment i guess..

It's okay .. I hope it will be available in final version