Mere hours after the next version of android was announced HTC made a statement saying the update will be available for most of their android handsets. In stark contrast, even though WM 6.5.3 was made official months ago (February) HTC has been completely silent on whether an upgrade will be offered for devices like the HD2.
OK, so I understand android is the "cool" thing and everyone wants to give their personal data to google and its pals, but at least come out and say what you intend to do, if you are dropping WM fine, thanks very much, if not, why not announce it or at least say its coming?
Just cant fathom, WM, especially on the HD2, is still a good OS, why has seemingly everyone fallen into the "apps is the only thing that matters" mindset and condemn WM because it doesnt have a million trillion fart or beer application?
android is free and open source but windows is not free
hoss_n2 said:
android is free and open source but windows is not free
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Exactly.... they would probably have to pay more licensing fees and make a new contract with MS for an official upgrade. /what does it matter, anyways... we have plenty of good 6.5.3 roms here at xda.
zarathustrax said:
Exactly.... they would probably have to pay more licensing fees and make a new contract with MS for an official upgrade. /what does it matter, anyways... we have plenty of good 6.5.3 roms here at xda.
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but the feeling of stock is always better ,as all stuff is there no thing is deleated
MS actually said 6.5.3 willl be available to OEM's at no extra cost and personally I have not found a cooked rom without bugs I could live with so I would prefer an official 6.5.3 upgrade.
Unfortunately, the HD2 will not be getting a 6.5.3 update:
Dear Amr, Thank you for contacting us. In regards to your query, Unfortunately, at this time HTC and Microsoft do not have plans to offer Windows Phone 7 or 6.5.3 upgrades to any existing HTC phones. HTC is working closely with Microsoft to bring Windows Phone 7 to market later this year. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required. Thank you for contacting HTC. Kind regards, Federico F. HTC
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OH really? HTC doesnt care about US customers?? That cant be! /sarcasm
KowboyBebop said:
OH really? HTC doesnt care about US customers?? That cant be! /sarcasm
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they only care for android
Even the crappy SE X2 got WM6.5.3 yesterday.....
de Wolfe said:
Even the crappy SE X2 got WM6.5.3 yesterday.....
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Seriously!
personally not too fussed about 6.5.3. But SE X2 got it? bloody hell!
rumz82 said:
Seriously!
personally not too fussed about 6.5.3. But SE X2 got it? bloody hell!
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Yeah, and that makes me angry somehow... I remember the "customer care" of wicked SE (concerning updates) from my X1 - that was horrible. Then I moved over to HTC and believed that they were better... maybe they'll still surprise me in a positive way...
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Yeah, and that makes me angry somehow... I remember the "customer care" of wicked SE (concerning updates) from my X1 - that was horrible. Then I moved over to HTC and believed that they were better... maybe they'll still surprise me in a positive way...
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Same situation and same feeling like you here. Let's wait to see if HTC surprise use.
Best regards
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Yeah, and that makes me angry somehow... I remember the "customer care" of wicked SE (concerning updates) from my X1 - that was horrible. Then I moved over to HTC and believed that they were better... maybe they'll still surprise me in a positive way...
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Agreed!
I came to HTC from user's feedback saying how good they were... very disapointed now!
And yes any update to windows 6.5 would be essential to save this cr2p!
Ok about custom ROM but you loses the warranty, and also can't complain if anything happens with custom rom...
We are having a xda-developers forum and a lot of different ROM on this forum, so f&$*& MS... just be happy
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Ok about custom ROM but you loses the warranty, and also can't complain if anything happens with custom rom...
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only true if you send it back with hspl still installed. the rom is un important.(well maybe they'd complain if you sent it back with wp7 hehe)
and since hspl can be removed right after you flash, the warranty is only void for fifteen minutes.
hi, hum, what about that :
HTC release Windows Mobile 6.5.3 HTC HD2 in China
I'd like 6.5.3 but I'd prefer it if HTC would fix the bugs my phone came with, and put the fixes they have released in a ROM. I'm out of memory after the last 15Mb update; and messaging still doesn't work (nor Exchange, nor Stocks, and something eats internal storage.) Custom ROMs are no good for business phones.
I won't but HTC again. I feel let down.
what does 6.5.3 offer over 6.5, i honestly dont have a clue.......
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what does 6.5.3 offer over 6.5, i honestly dont have a clue.......
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It is more finger friendly.
It can be quite awkward to select some items when you get away from HTC Sense, because you can't use a pen or fingernail on a capacitive screen.
fred_up said:
It is more finger friendly.
It can be quite awkward to select some items when you get away from HTC Sense, because you can't use a pen or fingernail on a capacitive screen.
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well in that case, i want the upgrade lol. come on htc, do the right thing......
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Hi
Is there anyway HTC Hero can run WM6.5 ?
Thank you.
Hi!
No. Thank God.
While technically possible, from a religious point of view it would be considered a sin.
If you intend to give WM a try, you'd better to lend a WMphone and play with it.
If you changed your mind about a Linux powered phone, ebay is the way.
I cast you out from our sacred land
Ofcourse it would be possible... if you have the source code for WinMo and got the drivers for the Hero hardware.`But tyou don't have that (I am sure HTC got both though).
But why would you?
I am sure that you can put Android on already existing hardware too (how about Android on S60 phones or even the iPhone)
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While technically possible ...
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Technically != by anyone
But the idea of running Android on the E series is quite interesting though.
I could even revert back to a N0k1a in that case ...
Groan......Not another one!
rhedgehog said:
Groan......Not another one!
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Life could be actually easier. But won't.
This is why we have the tax, the flu and Windows.
agreed. Windows and tax suck...although the flu is a great way to get some chicken soup and a few days off work!!
Maybe this is something for you in the future???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ
Not really. We need the native Android on all phones.
Unleash your phone, give it adroid!
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Hi
Is there anyway HTC Hero can run WM6.5 ?
Thank you.
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Yes there is a way, exchange your hero with my HTC Topaz
Deal?
I have just received a message back from HTC after I asked if there were going to be Reader & Document tabs in any upcoming ROM upgrades.
Here is the response;
Dear Richard Thank you for your enquiry about ROM features. At the moment we are working together with Microsoft to bring new features in place in the next upgrades and upcoming products but we cannot include the current options included in some mobile networks as this is part of their exclusiveness and brand agreements. Please fell free to subscribe to HTC eClub at http://www.htc.com/www/eclub/ so that you can receive upcoming news regarding your device or follow us on www.twitter.com/htc If there's any other enquiries, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check for you. Best regards, Pedro Santos HTC
I like this:
"At the moment we are working together with Microsoft to bring new features in place in the next upgrades "
What is it what they are working on with Microsoft? Lol , let the rumours start.
I have just replied to him asking for any info & mentioned Win Mo 7. I'm sure i'll get nothing out of them but always worth a try.
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I have just replied to him asking for any info & mentioned Win Mo 7. I'm sure i'll get nothing out of them but always worth a try.
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Let us know...
As expected here is the response;
Hi Richard Thank you for your contact once more. Unfortunately due to enclosure agreements we cannot provide any informations before a press release on our website. Please fell free to subscribe to HTC eClub at http://www.htc.com/www/eclub/ so that you can receive upcoming news regarding your device or follow us on www.twitter.com/htc Best regards, Pedro Santos HTC
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As expected here is the response;
Hi Richard Thank you for your contact once more. Unfortunately due to enclosure agreements we cannot provide any informations before a press release on our website. Please fell free to subscribe to HTC eClub at http://www.htc.com/www/eclub/ so that you can receive upcoming news regarding your device or follow us on www.twitter.com/htc Best regards, Pedro Santos HTC
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Nice, those conversations. Always something to interpret in one way or the other. Let us assume the HD2 doesn't get an upgrade for WM 7, then what? They cannot provide any information about that because of enclosure agreements? No, that's impossible So..... HD2 definitely gets an upgrade LOL
6.5.x maybe
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Nice, those conversations. Always something to interpret in one way or the other. Let us assume the HD2 doesn't get an upgrade for WM 7, then what? They cannot provide any information about that because of enclosure agreements? No, that's impossible So..... HD2 definitely gets an upgrade LOL
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miri said:
6.5.x maybe
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That is making so much more "Sense". (punch intended) I mean what do we have to do with our nice battery covers when there's a upgrade to WM 7?
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That is making so much more "Sense". (punch intended) I mean what do we have to do with our nice battery covers when there's a upgrade to WM 7?
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Because of the 'With HTC Sense'? Yeah that would be failure. Maybe just wright the word 'NOT' with a pen. 'With HTC Sense. NOT' xD
Anyway, from what I am reading it is clear that they are thinking about what to do with the HD2 regarding WinMo7. I think HTC will make some kind of new 'Sense' interface for WM7. MicroSoft just wants to sell the first Windows Phone 7 Series without to much 'Sense/TouchWiz' etc. To give the HTC HD2 owners a custom WM7 version with some kind of Sense on top would not effect them that much I think. And, again, we HD2 owners would be a good 'test' for them to see how Sense + WM7 works out.
Or else, during a meeting somebody goes 'you know what, let's just stop thinking about it. We are giving them 6.5.3. That's enough. The e-mail guys will get payed double this month to reply to all the hate messages'.
appelflap said:
I like this:
"At the moment we are working together with Microsoft to bring new features in place in the next upgrades "
What is it what they are working on with Microsoft? Lol , let the rumours start.
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For example finally fw version without annoying bugs I hope.
But anyway I really feel like something is cooking because for our region there is still no 1.66 version almost month after released everywhere else.
1.Maybe because it makes no sense for them to port the bugfixes for our region when some bigger upgrade is coming (like 6.5.x?) or …
2. they are just do not care about our stupid problems to use their devices.
I hope it is No.1
XDA mark said:
I think HTC will make some kind of new 'Sense' interface for WM7.
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Or not considering MS requires the OSs' home screen to be intact bar any OEM customization. Basically that means the screen as we've seen it will stay as is but HTC will likely add custom 'live tile's such as weather or stocks and change the 'default' colors.
the htc touch pro 2 has got an official upgrade for htc sense 2.5 shipped in our hd2 device
wtf is that , we have paid for sense 2.5 that is in hd2 and they got it as a free upgrade very un satisfied ,but this may be a good news if it means that we will get wp7 series upgrade as htc supports its devices in a better way now
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the htc touch pro 2 has got an official upgrade for htc sense 2.5 shipped in our hd2 device
wtf is that , we have paied for ense 2.5 that is in hd2 and they got it as a free upgrade very un satisfied
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You have to be a very bad person my friend!!
Why does it bother you that someone with a TP2 is happy with this update.
I dont f... understand You?
And this is actualy good news for all HTC owners. But it seems that you dont have the mind to think that!!!!
OMG!!!
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You have to be a very bad person my friend!!
Why does it bother you that someone with a TP2 is happy with this update.
I dont f... understand You?
And this is actualy good news for all HTC owners. But it seems that you dont have the mind to think that!!!!
OMG!!!
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why good news i sold tp2 to get hd2 with sense 2.5. any way iam not evil person but i was just shocked of this news ,any way it might be good news if it means that we will get wp7 series
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why good news i sold tp2 to get hd2 with sense 2.5
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My friend you sold your TP2 because the HD2 has the double amount of Ram and double the processor speed. Because it is an revolutionary phone.
It is good news because it indicates that HTC starts to support more and more their devices, and someday maybe you will get an update that will make very very happy. If that happens i don't think that will you complain then.
I write those things with all the respect of course! I didn't want to insult you!
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My friend you sold your TP2 because the HD2 has the double amount of Ram and double the processor speed. Because it is an revolutionary phone.
It is good news because it indicates that HTC starts to support more and more their devices, and someday maybe you will get an update that will make very very happy. If that happens i don't think that will you complain then.
I write those things with all the respect of course! I didn't want to insult you!
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don't matter iam not angry with you , but you are right i should be happy as what you said htc is supporting their devices in a good way now and we could get the wp7 series after all
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why good news i sold tp2 to get hd2 with sense 2.5.
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You should tell HTC to stop doing that, so that they never make any updates to the HD2...
The best news in a long time!
That means there will finally be full landscape for Sense!
Can you please post a link to that update?
freyberry said:
The best news in a long time!
That means there will finally be full landscape for Sense!
Can you please post a link to that update?
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here is the link hope you enjoy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
the htc touch pro 2 has got an official upgrade for htc sense 2.5 because maybe HD2 will get another upgrade:WM7
Okay, so before I get flamed to death for asking - it's just a random question!
Is it possible [or has it been done?] to rip the ROM from the iPhone [or get its OS or whatever] and flash it to the HTC HD2 so that it behaves like the iPhone?
Yes, it's a stupid question, but I would like to know the answer - Just to play around with the idea a bit.
I will take the lead!
If you want the iPhone OS, take the easy route and get an iPhone!
If you want the Windows OS, you have got a few options (and you are probably in the right place)!
lol...
No seriously, iPhone's MAJOR drawback is the ability of users/developers to access the installed operating system. Until this is sorted, no one can dump the iPhone OS and hence it can not be run on any other hardware.
But, why would you want to do that ?
Seriously,
If you want the iPhone OS, take the easy route and get.....
lol
...or get the iPhoneToday plugin.
Its here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDWXDk4GWM
iPhone OS in HD2? Its like implement Trabi engine in Porsche )
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iPhone OS in HD2? Its like implement Trabi engine in Porsche )
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hahaha that made me laugh! good old trabi's lol
Trabant rules
oj... I still have a 68 Trabi...
Running better than a Porsche(or an Iphone for that matter)
Petulinek said:
iPhone OS in HD2? Its like implement Trabi engine in Porsche )
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Still an upgrade from the current Model T engine Highly modifiable maybe, but still a Model T
*Flames* *Flames* *Flames*
Haha...Okay then, fair enough.
The reason I was considering it is just that I like the look and feel of the iPhone, and its OS isn't messy like Windows MoFoBile.
I'd get an iPhone...but I'm locked down for two years with this HTC HD2
However - that's not TOO bad since I cooked it with that Energy ROM - the BEST ROM IN THE WORLD, by the way.
But yeah...It's just...I want iPhone OS
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Haha...Okay then, fair enough.
The reason I was considering it is just that I like the look and feel of the iPhone, and its OS isn't messy like Windows MoFoBile.
I'd get an iPhone...but I'm locked down for two years with this HTC HD2
However - that's not TOO bad since I cooked it with that Energy ROM - the BEST ROM IN THE WORLD, by the way.
But yeah...It's just...I want iPhone OS
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write a letter to steve! i mean he even allowed opera mini for the iphone os, imagine that!! (which is btw. the most downloaded app in all 22 app stores)
now look what how well customizable WM is with all these mods, especially coockie 1.7. hmmm.. what can you do on the iphone right... apple will invent
a new feature called "change home wallpaper" with 4.0 xD. i bet in 2 years apple is like: we revolutionized customizabality with the 4.0! -just kiddin
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Its here:
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Ugly and busy as hell.
and what's a Trabi engine?
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Its here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDWXDk4GWM
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where can i get that theme?
shu8i said:
write a letter to steve! i mean he even allowed opera mini for the iphone os, imagine that!! (which is btw. the most downloaded app in all 22 app stores)
now look what how well customizable WM is with all these mods, especially coockie 1.7. hmmm.. what can you do on the iphone right... apple will invent
a new feature called "change home wallpaper" with 4.0 xD. i bet in 2 years apple is like: we revolutionized customizabality with the 4.0! -just kiddin
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I realise that the iPhone and the iPhone OS has virtually no customisability, but I mean...if a ROM was made that resembled it - then customisability could be cooked in somehow...
I should become a ROM developer...HAHA no, that's not going to happen.
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Its here:
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Can the 'ipod'/music player program be downloaded separately?
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Haha...Okay then, fair enough.
The reason I was considering it is just that I like the look and feel of the iPhone, and its OS isn't messy like Windows MoFoBile.
I'd get an iPhone...but I'm locked down for two years with this HTC HD2
However - that's not TOO bad since I cooked it with that Energy ROM - the BEST ROM IN THE WORLD, by the way.
But yeah...It's just...I want iPhone OS
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For people dying to get an iPhone, here is my usual advice!
Flog your HTC HD2 on ebay, and then head to an apple store to purchase an iPhone. Uncle Steve loves you indeed!
And, while we are at it, what does "Windows MoFoBile" mean ?
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Can the 'ipod'/music player program be downloaded separately?
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Isnt that the music player accompanied by S2SU ?
If it is, search for S2P in threads!
bym007 said:
For people dying to get an iPhone, here is my usual advice!
Flog your HTC HD2 on ebay, and then head to an apple store to purchase an iPhone. Uncle Steve loves you indeed!
And, while we are at it, what does "Windows MoFoBile" mean ?
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It's just Windows Mobile, except I added 'Fo' to sound like "MoFo" which means "MotherF***er".
Haha I'd flog my HTC HD2 on Ebay, but Telstra would kill me
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It's just Windows Mobile, except I added 'Fo' to sound like "MoFo" which means "MotherF***er".
Haha I'd flog my HTC HD2 on Ebay, but Telstra would kill me
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You could get a good amount for a telstra hd2... they generally go for more than any other hd2, especially if you're willing to ship to the us. If you hate WinMo, I suggest you doing this and get yourself an iphone. telstra doesn't care what phone you use.
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You could get a good amount for a telstra hd2... they generally go for more than any other hd2, especially if you're willing to ship to the us. If you hate WinMo, I suggest you doing this and get yourself an iphone. telstra doesn't care what phone you use.
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Haha. Seriously? People LIKE Telstra? weird people...
WinMo is just...so messy...
haha I'd ship anywhere if the person I was shipping to paid
Soo yeah, It was on the main page recently that a build of windows phone 7 would soon be released for HD2. I know I'm begging for a good flaming for this but is there anywhere I can find an update on the status of this project? I know its a locked down OS and blah blah blah but I use the HD2 as my business phone and would like it to have a more business appeal to it. Does amnyone have an idea on the status of this project?
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Soo yeah, It was on the main page recently that a build of windows phone 7 would soon be released for HD2. I know I'm begging for a good flaming for this but is there anywhere I can find an update on the status of this project? I know its a locked down OS and blah blah blah but I use the HD2 as my business phone and would like it to have a more business appeal to it. Does amnyone have an idea on the status of this project?
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dude buy HD7 ... not much diffrent from HD2
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dude buy HD7 ... not much diffrent from HD2
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Why would he spend money to buy a new HD7 when he could just wait for HD2 to potentially have WP7?
i think there will never come a WP7 ROM for HD2
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WM7 will come , but like chefs told its just a demo. i dont think its will for a daily use. Android is enough .
i just don't get it. can't the device handle the os?
I think it comes down to if the team is willing to crack the OS so everything works. Last I heard, the thing thats holding back release and making the OS usable would be Windows Genuine Phone. It prevents non-genuine versions of windows phone to work properly. Without live tiles and access to apps, the usefulness of windows phones is non-existent.
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I think it comes down to if the team is willing to crack the OS so everything works. Last I heard, the thing thats holding back release and making the OS usable would be Windows Genuine Phone. It prevents non-genuine versions of windows phone to work properly. Without live tiles and access to apps, the usefulness of windows phones is non-existent.
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no thats not it there working on magldr which is what is going to boot android and wp7
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i just don't get it. can't the device handle the os?
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of course it can, its just the fact that porting a complete OS is a massively complex task that us mere mortals can barely even comprehend.....
the devs need time and for others to be patient....
Well I'm gonna patiently wait. Android is helping bide the time, but I'm ready for some new microsoft goodies.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
You´ll be surprised soon with Leo running smoothly WP7
You can read how well all is going on Windows Phone 7 section.
By now we must have patience and support the great masters like Cotulla and Da_G just for mention some.
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i think there will never come a WP7 ROM for HD2
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