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Replacing my HTC Hero.

Can any users/owners of the HTC desire give me a review of the phone, I want to replace my HTC Hero, is it worth it or should I await another phone?
Much appreciated, thanks.
Shahin

Should have posted in the Desire forums.
Last time i was reading up there everyone was very happy. Only -'ve thing I remember a few people mentioning was a slight pink-ish glare on the screen,...some people hadn't even noticed it so I think its a minor.

don't buy htc devices, you will wait for updates until you are incontinent.

sHaHiN786 said:
Can any users/owners of the HTC desire give me a review of the phone, I want to replace my HTC Hero, is it worth it or should I await another phone?
Much appreciated, thanks.
Shahin
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You should always wait for another phone, because what is just about to be released is going to be better than what is currently available!
Of course, if you follow that advice you'll never get another phone!
I've got a Desire now, and it truly is a step up from the Hero. Everything is just so much more fluid on the Desire, which makes it much more pleasurable to use. However, in terms of functionality it isn't a whole lot different to a Hero with a 2.1 ROM, and once Hero gets the final 2.1 ROM it will gain a whole new lease of life.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
You should always wait for another phone, because what is just about to be released is going to be better than what is currently available!
Of course, if you follow that advice you'll never get another phone!
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Ha,... I bought my used Hero about 2 months ago with plans to get the Desire for my birthday by the end of May.
But obviously now with the EVO4G and the Incredible being seen, I have to wait for something with similar spec to hit the UK.
But to be honest, I think i'll still be happy with my Hero for a good 6 months or so yet.

Thanks for the negative feedback guys, now I have reasons not to buy it, sucks that I'm not getting a new phone though.
Thank You
Shahin

First day using Desire..

First day using my new Desire today...thought i would post my thoughts as i was very hesitant i would be impressed with it vs my awesome Hero!
Firstly the speed of the Desire is phenomenal! I mean the Hero isn't slow and, if anything, is getting faster with every new rom but this thing is like rapid in all aspects!
The screen is beautiful! Again the Hero is really good but the AMOLED on the Desire is far better than i anticipated!
Build quality wise the thing is solid - iPhone esq (never had an iPhone myself) Hero is put together fantastically well too but the Desire is another level!
But finally....i miss my Hero not sold it yet and i'm not sure how long it will take me to 'let go' lol...when i do R.I.P my Hero, best phone i ever had! And major kudos and thanks to all the devs for their ongoing work with making the Hero dev scene the best around (controversial i'm sure lol) hope to see some of you guys over in the Desire dev scene one day
Peace out!

Nice post. Enjoy TRAITOR! Rofl, I kid.

Detol Loki said:
Nice post. Enjoy TRAITOR! Rofl, I kid.
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Lol ta G....i need to overcome my mental block and sell the Hero but am hesitant to flash Desire due to bricking issues! Will keep my ear in on the Hero tho!

should have waited bit longer... desires old now.

-2y2k- said:
should have waited bit longer... desires old now.
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Are there any new UK handsets due for release anytime soon? EVO and Incredible are only for US, so atm Desire is the best bet lol.

-2y2k- said:
should have waited bit longer... desires old now.
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Nah, am happy with it...not feeling the Evo 4G and the Desire with keyboard (forgive me i forget the name) is just a Desire with a keyboard?? Plus i get free upgrade in November so can go again

Wrong forum?

I have similar experience with my almost 2 weeks old Desire.
I'm glad to see that there is a huge community developing for the Hero, making it much faster and much more usable. But the speed of the Desire (and perhaps other Android phones with newer hardwares) is just way way way faster than the Hero can ever be, and the larger screen makes the touch screen keyboard much better.
Having said that, I do think the Desire look a bit dull on the design. I like the way the Hero and the Legend look... I wish they had made the Legend with a bigger screen and put the Snapdragon in it. But the speed of the Desire just make the phone much more usable and enjoyable to use, and it is really hard to go back to use my Hero.

why not the nexus one??

if you don't feel like selling your hero, you can gift it to one of your favoured hero dev so he can use it as a development device

-2y2k- said:
why not the nexus one??
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because the desire is basically a better version of the nexus one

poddo said:
if you don't feel like selling your hero, you can gift it to one of your favoured hero dev so he can use it as a development device
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+1
or just stick to it since its still awesome!

HTC Tattoo vs Wildfire

I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!

dom_b said:
I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch

alberto88a said:
wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.

Maybe that "bit more RAM" is necessary to have 2.1 and sense working fine.
But i'm not sure

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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
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yes but in my opinion it won't arrive!
instead htc assured froyo for device from genuary 2010 excluding tattoo that exited on november/december 2009 -.-
i'm not talking about hardware that is almost the same but the support won't be the same for these devices...
do not forget wildfire start with a 2.1 upgradeable to 2.2
and the cost is almost the same for both devices...

Not from HTC it won't... but the development team here are almost there anyway so hopefully a fully working ROM will be here soon without the need for HTC!
And I think you're missing my point. Im just saying that the new device is basically the same as the Tattoo. Im not saying sombody should go out now and buy a Tattoo, that would be stupid lol.

HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.

People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...

TheSSJ said:
People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.

hi
not development related moved

Coburn64 said:
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
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I couldn't say that any better. 100% agree. I think there are basicly two type of needs/users.
One is what I call the "leisure" user (that could be myself on week ends) who wants a ample web browsing, full multimedia, multiple messaging (SMS's and chat), gaming, and so on. For these users, iPhone 3g/3gs/4, Nexus One, or alike any of both is the choice.
Another one is my so called "working" user (myself monday to friday), when your needs are mostly email (mostly exchange and push), quick browsing, mapping or navigation, shopping lists, to do lists, calendars, reminders, transportation routing or schedule querying, not too ambicious web browsing, some music/sudokuing is well appreciated. For this use, Tattoo-like->Wildfire is simply perfect: does it all, with no excess luggage (weight/size).
I don't know if I should say pitty or shame on HTC for releasing a device that in a very few months will be improved to the obsolecense point. We all know that in consumer technology you will never catch up with the very best, but HTC guys, we should be happy at least for one year. Is it to ask for too much? Did they invent the "decent camera" last week so it is just now that you could include it in your phones, or couldn't you do that on the Tattoo? And cant't you upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2? You HTC want to tell us that you can't do what some cooks on XDA have already done? I am certain that these guys are very well prepared, qualified and smart, no doubt on it, but what they do is some kind of hobby on their spare time, and they are charging not a cent!
Well, my hope like many others, is on these magnificent guys cooking new ROMs for all of us (hopefully we will have a 2.1 or 2.2 fully functional), and as some other dudes already have expressed, Tattoo might well be my last HTC device.

I think tattoo is lack of screen resolution and size of the screen other than it's good if you just work around with roms and install market patched hopefully soon we will have 2.2 or 2.1 fully working custom Roms with market patched and it will be really cool
But htc should do something about tattoo they can't just leave tattoo in blank

don't think on buying a wildfire. haven't you got enough with Tattoo? save some more money and buy a nexus one or an iphone, they are truly speedy and better quality

Coburn64 said:
Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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HTC Officially released Android froyo (2.2) update for wildfire in europe. Just check below link,
http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx?type=Others
Soon to india.. wait.

When do you think official Froyo will be released?

As the thread says - when do you think official Froyo will be released?

September 23, 2011

April 1 2012.

I reckon the last week of October, or November if they don't fix everything in time. ;/

Different regions, probably different dates.

A new important research showed that the Maya were not predicting an end of an era, but the official release for Froyo on Galaxy S.

I wont vote coz theres no "NEVER" option..

Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Sticking with HTC from now on

totality said:
Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Sticking with HTC from now on
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Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.
With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".

Schmich said:
Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.
With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".
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I have heard the same complaining before htc phones got their updates. Look how long since the first froyo rolled out ( excluding N1) till now and still not all updated. Evo and the Droid Inc. have been out waaaayyy longer than the GS's and the DInc just got hers.
I wouldn't sweat it. If having to wait a few weeks for an update is a deal breaker for you than Android is not for you, unless you you get a Nexus 1.

Seriously.... What is the point of this ?? Can't we just be patient and wait... Anyway, it will release on different dates for different regions....

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A new important research showed that the Maya were not predicting an end of an era, but the official release for Froyo on Galaxy S.
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Prasad007 said:
Seriously.... What is the point of this ?? Can't we just be patient and wait...
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I would wait patiently if my $500 phone was working OK or If they were waiting patiently for me to pay it when it gets fixed. But they got my money and I didn't get a working phone. So I'm not being patient.
Hope this makes sense.
Cheers!

totality said:
Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Cool story bro , use something else then android.
Sticking with HTC from now on
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2.2 cancelled, go straight to Gingerbread.

totality said:
Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Sticking with HTC from now on
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hahaha good luck to you then I dont see any difference between htc and samsung.. had few htc phones.. but no thank you im sticking with sammy for now! but hey there is some difference.. more geeks posting on htc threads.. so it might let u feel that htc have bigger support
just my opinion..

Schmich said:
Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.
With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".
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Umm.. Millions of people around the world are using this phone, and are using it without a lag fix (such as myself).
And yes, there are many people happy with this phone too. My only issue with this phone is GPS, and that isn't enough for me to throw out this phone

What is the POINT of those topics???

psp888 said:
2.2 cancelled, go straight to Gingerbread.
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BEST post so far IMO!

They will not release froyo until galaxy tab comes to market, so I think 15th october or later

Official 2.3 In March?!?!

Fellas, just read over in Engadget that HTC devices will be getting 2.3 starting in March.
Of course, we've been disappointed before, and there's no mention of which specific devices would be receiving the update, but we can always hope...

This line;
(March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson)
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Not taking that too seriously
Unless it came from the comment section ... in which case I can't be bothered to look LOL

I smell bull****. March is a long ass way away all HTC needs to do is strip stock Android apps and replace them with their own.

jackjumper85 said:
I smell bull****. March is a long ass way away all HTC needs to do is strip stock Android apps and replace them with their own.
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Do you have a clue what's involved re-factoring to a new platform and implementing a new skin (SenseHD)?
We'll be lucky to see it by March. I suspect later.

myn said:
Do you have a clue what's involved re-factoring to a new platform and implementing a new skin (SenseHD)?
We'll be lucky to see it by March. I suspect later.
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I'm hoping for sooner. They all surprised us with Froyo pretty darn quick!

myn said:
Do you have a clue what's involved re-factoring to a new platform and implementing a new skin (SenseHD)?
We'll be lucky to see it by March. I suspect later.
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Froyo was announced in May, and EVO's got the update in August, I think...only three months. March is not an unrealistic expectation, though I do wish Engadget would have cited their source for that info.

That was just sarcasm. They have no idea when gingerbread will hit any device.
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Android Central:
The Evo 4G
Yes, your Evo will get Gingerbread, I'm sure of it. Regardless of which phone the customers think is Sprint's best Android offering, Sprint has a lot riding on the Evo, even five months after its launch.
To round it all out, there's this crazy rumor -- and feel free to ridicule me for not having the link -- that an HTC employee confirmed that HTC wants Gingerbread on the Evo before Christmas, and Sprint wants to be first to market with the update. Like I said, it's a rumor, but it sounds reasonable.

Hopefully sooner.. the post above would be super awesome if true.
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By then, ill be upgrading to the next HTC phone. That's way too long.
I feel that We can complain about htc taking forever to release an update because we for 1, bought the htc phone.
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nhutpham said:
Android Central:
The Evo 4G
Yes, your Evo will get Gingerbread, I'm sure of it. Regardless of which phone the customers think is Sprint's best Android offering, Sprint has a lot riding on the Evo, even five months after its launch.
To round it all out, there's this crazy rumor -- and feel free to ridicule me for not having the link -- that an HTC employee confirmed that HTC wants Gingerbread on the Evo before Christmas, and Sprint wants to be first to market with the update. Like I said, it's a rumor, but it sounds reasonable.
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Here's the story on that:
http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-htc-has-gingerbread-already/

indagroove said:
Here's the story on that:
http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-htc-has-gingerbread-already/
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I hope this is true. I can wait til then.
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khov07 said:
Fellas, just read over in Engadget that HTC devices will be getting 2.3 starting in March.
Of course, we've been disappointed before, and there's no mention of which specific devices would be receiving the update, but we can always hope...
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They were just being sarcastic and poking fun at Sony. Engadget currently has no idea when the 2.3 update will be released by carriers.

I bet you there will be many cook rom before the actual release

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http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-htc-has-gingerbread-already/
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It does make sense for htc to get it early as they manufacture the N1.
MAN OH MAN WE HOPE THIS IS LEGIT
Could very well be 100% false But.....
MAN OH MAN WE HOPE IT IS TRUE!

Remember, they said end of the year for 2.2, but we got it like a month later. I bet by January will have it,official or not.
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i would agree that sprint still views the Evo as their flag**** model and not only that but its had commercial success, anyone remember how hard it was to get those things in the first 90 days?? you better believe they were probably working with HTC to make sure its updated in a timely manner. also, it makes sense for it to get the first HTC update since it has the largest install base.
All speculation on my part, but my two cents

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Here's the story on that:
http://www.techhog.com/editorial/exclusive-htc-has-gingerbread-already/
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Interesting article.
It would make sense that Sprint would make an effort to update EVO's to 2.3 as soon as possible. As someone else already mentioned, this is definitely their flagship device. Though the Samsung Epic is also a 4G phone, it has not been marketed nearly as much as the EVO.
This is pure speculation on my part, but it would seem to be in their best short-term interests to continue to develop for the EVO, as it has hardware that is very capable, and 2.3 would only make the device that much more appealing. It may be cheaper to develop for existing, familiar (and not very old) hardware than to develop for new hardware. I could be wrong.
I can already hear the commercials: "the EVO, now faster than ever..."

Yeah, I hope they push out 2.3, even if it has old sense.

Rydah805 said:
By then, ill be upgrading to the next HTC phone. That's way too long.
I feel that We can complain about htc taking forever to release an update because we for 1, bought the htc phone.
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Is that all people do? Complain? Become a developer and do something about it then
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