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How to use the space in the Extended ROM?

Hi all,
I know that the Extended ROM for the HTC Universal can be "unlocked" so we can move files in and out and delete files in the Extended ROM, but can we actually convert the Extended ROM space in usable space?
Either by:
1) Resizing the Extended ROM and increasing the default ROM size.
OR
2) Installing programs directly into the Extended ROM itself and running it off from there without any problems.
Many thanks!

Hi there,
1.) nope, is not possible - size is fix for default ROM and extended ROM
2.) yup, works fine - instead of just installing to main memory or storage card you then have a third option usually called 'storage', so you have 10 MB more to install programs to.
Happy installing
Pat

Thought I read somewhere in this forum about the extended rom would slow the Jasjar down.
Is it true? I would love to get the 10Mb but hate to see it slow down again...

Based on what I know, it is TRUE that we can unlock the ExtROM, BUT we cannot use that free memory yet, as of now. That is why even if you delete the ExtROM you would not see an increase in your UNIVERSAL's memory. The only good thing with unlocking the Ext ROM in the UNIVERSAL is so we can customize the Ext ROM to our liking. It will not act the same as the built-in memory. You can't store and run applications from them. This is in the UNIVERSAL, please correct me if I am wrong. BUZZ and the others are still working on how to merge the freed-up memory on the Ext ROM so that we can use it.

i have apps installed into my extended rom and it works fine, i have some games and tcpmp in there, no issues whatso ever.

Carnivor said:
i have apps installed into my extended rom and it works fine, i have some games and tcpmp in there, no issues whatso ever.
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WOW, how did you do it? How did you install apps in there?

copy cabs to sd, run them, choose extendedrom as the location, job done,
using buzz ext rom unlock and the reg keys to make it visible in the file system,

I agree with Carnivor - everything I installed on Extended ROM works fine.
I only faced performance issues when installing applications on storage card.
If Stanip read somewhere, 'extended rom would slow down Jasjar' -> Maybe the meaning was, that your Jasjar might be slow IF you did not install the software which came in the extended rom.
In my case I installed the software from extended rom (which is done automatically when first time staring the device), then moved all extended memory content to my storage card and enjoyed the 10 MB extra space to install programs.

Carnivor said:
copy cabs to sd, run them, choose extendedrom as the location, job done,
using buzz ext rom unlock and the reg keys to make it visible in the file system,
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Thanks, I guess I can try it the next time I perform a hard reset. What are your apps installed in the extension ROM. You mentioned that not all of them run smoothly from there?

Another question please, if I do install apps in the Ext ROM after running BUZZ unlocker and the registry tweak, does this mean the installed application survives a hard reset because it is now installed in the Ext ROM?

that is a good question, i imagine all will stay resident, but be hidden only needing the reg changes to make it visible again,
i dont really know, just assuming

Carnivor said:
that is a good question, i imagine all will stay resident, but be hidden only needing the reg changes to make it visible again,
i dont really know, just assuming
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Thanks. I guess I'll try it now. This is the only thing I hate, another hard reset. Why didn't I read this thread sooner. AHhhhhhhhh!

I'm running in Extended_Rom all pluiggins that used "today". I'm running this for weeks and goes perfectly.
If you want see applications, goes to my blog (in my sign) to see it. (Sorry, only in spanish)
Regards.

Sagit said:
I'm running in Extended_Rom all pluiggins that used "today". I'm running this for weeks and goes perfectly.
If you want see applications, goes to my blog (in my sign) to see it. (Sorry, only in spanish)
Regards.
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I don't see clear advantages installing on the extended rom except if you try to install more programs that the limit of the memory for programs, is it ok?

Thanks for quick help guys. Just a few more quick questions.
- Where did I find the registry hack to make the Extended ROM visible? I take it that it will make it visible even on the normal File Explorer and Resco Explorer?
- Will existing backup programs backup/image the data on the Extended ROM?

beginner said:
Sagit said:
I'm running in Extended_Rom all pluiggins that used "today". I'm running this for weeks and goes perfectly.
If you want see applications, goes to my blog (in my sign) to see it. (Sorry, only in spanish)
Regards.
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I don't see clear advantages installing on the extended rom except if you try to install more programs that the limit of the memory for programs, is it ok?
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Also to leave more memory for exec programs and leave it running in background.
Regards

Can anyone confirm whether ext Rom is still available when battery becomes low?

Hey Ever1
just a quick question when you make the extended rom visible and install a software to run from the extended rom do you hidden the extended rom again or leave it visible.
If you leave it visible can you tell me how does the pda see the storage card has storage card or as storage card2.
Thank you
Gigino

i called my extended_rom ExtendedRom, else if you dont rename it you end up messy,
I leave it visible, it shows up in system stats that way
it shows up in resco as a chip based storage similar icon to the storage memory, but instead of the pda in the background behind the chip it has a folder behind the chip

I don't know how many times I wrote to this forum:
"DON'T INSTALL AND RUN APPLICATIONS FROM EXTENDED ROM"
because you can damage it. use storage card if you need more space.

Big Hack help required

I did the Big Hack successfully and gained 27 mb of space on my O2 mini (I was a happy man). Prior to this, at the time of Big Hack I stored a copy of my original rom and my extended rom.
Subsequently, in about 2 weeks time I accidentally deleted some key files while using SK Tools. Due to this the ‘close button’ at the top corner was not visible even after soft reset. The “running programs” application was also missing. Because of this I did a hard reset.
When I tried to load programs into the new storage gained, I found that the storage area is full (total storage memory 26.72 MB, free 0.00 MB. No programs are being written on to this area. I did another hard reset. Still no luck. My active sync is working fine with contacts, calendar etc. getting synced very fine. Only, I cannot install programs to my new big storage area as it shows the full area as full.
Total Main Memory is - 57.41
Storage Program
Allocated 24.39 MB Allocated 33.02 MB
In use 2.08 MB In use 10.63 MB
Free 22.31MB Free 22.39 MB
Please help me. What should I do ? Do I need to visit the Service Centre in Mumbai and ask them to restore my device back to the level at which I purchased it ? Do I flash the BIG ROM once again ? Do I flash the saved, original RoM. Somehow, when I try to flash in boot loader, the screen only shows “Serial 1.0”, but it is not prompting me to Press power to flash.

sorry, im not to good wid my magician, how do i do a big hack, and what does it do?

Galahad: I would suggest re-flashing with your bigstorage'd ROM. That should re-partition everything hopefully back to bigstorage status. If that doesn't work, reflash with a normal rom, and then start from scratch.
Mark - I presume by "Big Hack" Galahad means the BigStorage hack, and not just playing with his dangly bits. Have a look on the wiki and various threads. Olt's guide here is a good one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37914&highlight=bigstorage
and this is my preferred technique:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...t=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=bigrom
What this does is:
by default the Magician is set up to have a "storage" area for user use of about 7mb, and an "extended" area that we can really use, containing a bunch of operator stuff that you might or might not need.
The hack turns the extended area into storage, so you get 27mb, to do with as you please. It's well worth doing if you use a wifi card for example, but if you have a large sd card anyway, and never remove it, you're not losing much.
V

Vijay thanks for your reply and notes. I have visited your links and taken hard copies for Note reference.
I did a romupdate and thru that I tricked my device to prompt me to flash my SD Card with the saved Big Rom. Once everything was done I got my 27mb space. I notes that it already had 5 mb written. I ignored that and went on to reinstall all my programs to this area.
One more help that I need [don'nt know if I should start a new thread] is how to get to install the application "O2 connect". I installed individual cab files from the saved EXT ROM. After installing 4 to 5 O2 connect cab files whenever I click on O2 connect I still get the message "O2 connect can only run on O2 devices"
The links that you gave me "how do I search for these links"? I do not get the search results for what I want to search in the search dialog box.

Galahad: it's not a piece of software I've ever used, but you have to remember to search for the cracked version. Have you tried the ftp? It's likely to be on there. However, many people seem to suggest it's not very good... I reserve judgement!
Remember to formulate your searches with correct boolean terms etc, it does work if you know what you're looking for and are very careful...
V

These are the files i used to get the o2 connect to work.

Thanks buddies for the replies and the tips.
Nash: I read your post. Did you mean to put a link for me to look up the files that you talked about ? Cause I don't see any files. Maybe I am missing something :?

Buddy these are CAB files in a RaR zipped

Tried using the individual cab files in the RAR file. Installed the same. It did not help me one bit. Got the same error "O2 connect is meant to work with O2 devices only"
I guess if I need the latest ROM I will pickup the same from the XDA forum.

First thread in this wonderful forum : Storage Space problem

In the beginning I want to thanks all the people responsible for this wonderful forum. It is extremely helpful for the kind of N00bi like me.
My last windows Mobile machine was the HTC Universal and before it I had the Wallaby and Blue Angel after those machines I ended my relationship with windows mobile until I saw the HTC HD2 which brought me back form symbian and iPhone.
Now to the strange problem, I have been using the hd2 for 3 weeks and I am very happy customer until I have noticed something which is very odd. Losing internal memory space as the time passes. although I did all the tricks to transfer the temporary cache memory to the Storage Card it did not help me at all and I am still loosing space over time.
I did transfer the opera cache to the storage card and that saved me about 3 MB and that is it
I looked for more tricks in the forum but all I found was the opera thing and nothing else. so can anyone please help me with this problem
Thanks
mrnet_01​

how do you transfer the opera cache to the memory card? and for internet explorer as well???
and how do i clear temporary files/cache/etc. ??

electrix_85 said:
this maybe can help u
the default directory of opera cache is
\Windows\opera9\cache\
so u must change this default directory
1. open opera browser
2. type on address ---->> opera:config
it will open advance opera configuration setting
3. tap userpref
4. find opera cache and change ur cache directory 4
I prefer to \Storage Card\Program Files\opera9\cache\
dont forget to tap save button
sory for my bad english
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little search won't hurt anyone

Can anyone help me please. I am bleeding space.

It might be due to Youtube temp file? I noticed a 20+mb sized temp.3gp file in my youtube folder after watching quite a number of videos.

^^^^
has been done but still the same

Please guys I really need help.

mrnet_01 said:
Losing internal memory space as the time passes.
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Are you saying that your storage space is disappearing, without you installing software or using applications that cache data?

i believe that is what he is saying

Try to connect to your HD2 with ActiveSync.
From Windows Explorer on your PC, you can browse the folders on your device. Make sure that you can view Hidden Files, system files etc.
Right Click each folder and request the properties. This way you can view which folder is taking so much of your precious RAM.
In my case for instance, the folder \Application data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache is 28Mb.
Don't know if I can remove these files though
I think that folders that are actualy part of the ROM will show 0 bytes.
Anyway, hope this tip can help you.

johncmolyneux said:
Are you saying that your storage space is disappearing, without you installing software or using applications that cache data?
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Yes, exactly
Pappagallo said:
Try to connect to your HD2 with ActiveSync.
From Windows Explorer on your PC, you can browse the folders on your device. Make sure that you can view Hidden Files, system files etc.
Right Click each folder and request the properties. This way you can view which folder is taking so much of your precious RAM.
In my case for instance, the folder \Application data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache is 28Mb.
Don't know if I can remove these files though
I think that folders that are actualy part of the ROM will show 0 bytes.
Anyway, hope this tip can help you.
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it is about 14 Mb for me.

mrnet_01 said:
it is about 14 Mb for me.
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Did you find other folders that take up a lot of space ?
I know it's a pain to check all folders manually, but your storage must be disappearing somewhere...

Have you downloaded anything from the MS MarketPlace, all apps from there get installed onto the device as default and this cannot be changed. The app can be moved usine file manager (or any other alternative). I would go to add/remove programs and remove all unnesscary ones and start installing again ensureing they are going to the Storage Card. Also stay away from MS Marketplace (until this is resovled)

My albums cache and google maps cache were about 40Mb... Both in Application Data. Deleted it, hadn't had any issues.
I wish I could move HTC album and Google Maps cache to the memcard.

have you installed HTC hotfixes for messaging and camera - these take up close to 10 - 15M and you wont be able to see these as they replace DLL's and files in the ROM by using user memory.

Very interesting! I just reclaimed 39MB space by deleting 2 files in the Google Maps cache. I ran Google Maps again without any problem and after closing the application still had the same amount of memory.

not enough memory issue

just tried to play the avatar clip via msn uk and saw a new error. It told me i had insufficient memory. i think the error was from adobe flash player. i am using ie. is there a was to direct this to sd as i have a lot of space there?

Did you try resetting your mobile after install? After install it crashed on me, I reset my mobile and it worked fine.

I did not install anything. I simply tried to run the trailer.

I got this error too and I have seen videos with the IE in the HD2 running embeded flash on sites. I will either get the error or no flash at all. What gives?!
UPDATE: It does show the flash some times. Weird.

I have the same issue in general. i want to open my calendar and it says no memory available go to task manager and exit programs. when i go to task manager all programs are already exited.... but it still gives me the message. when i restart it works but the same happens again after a while.... will that be the case all the time :S :S
(btw i just bought the phone 1 day ago so any tips would be helpful)
Thankss

crashburn202 said:
I have the same issue in general. i want to open my calendar and it says no memory available go to task manager and exit programs. when i go to task manager all programs are already exited.... but it still gives me the message. when i restart it works but the same happens again after a while.... will that be the case all the time :S :S
(btw i just bought the phone 1 day ago so any tips would be helpful)
Thankss
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you should install cleanram as it helps free some ram...also get cleartemp as it'll show you what's eating your space up like googlemap and youtube caches so you can delete them easily...and finally don't forget to soft reset
one more very important thing which saves a LOT of space if you're on stock rom or your cooked rom doesnt have it(highly unlikely) is moving the album cache...read the thread here and look out for 4tune's cab
you should also read tboy200's thread and look at tips 65 and 67

Cleanram and cleantemp aren't going to solve that problem.
Leo has from 448 to 576MB of total ram, it's unlikely a human being would run enough programs to actually drain that all.
The problem lies in the virtual memory architecture: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/windows/VirtualMemory.aspx?msg=3360923, and alas it's nothing that can be solved, just somehow reduced byt for example flashing a custom rom that loads less libraries in VM at boot, for example, leaving more free VM.

clear the opera cash and it is done

ephestione has it right. in my experience, an out of memory error on the HD2 does NOT mean that there's not enough memory, it's just an architecture limitation that gives application errors.

Insufficient space error in Play Store
Hi all, infact this problem is not related to this thread (in my opinion) but since i am a newbie and can't post to the related post, i choose to write down my problem here where i can find a solution..maybe..
Right now i am using Dorimanx's [24 MAY] Dorimanx-ROM-HIGH-END 3.1.9 N277 ODEX NO-HOME-REFRESH+ ZRAM+ SKIN+ TWEAKS+ CRON Rom. I dont know if CRON or any other script is working smoothly, actually i dont know how to test them but, the real problem for me is totally apart from that.
I fixed the audio issue by flashing Magldr_kernel_iamgpc_294, -the flashable version of libaudio_v5-drizztje- i guess, after that i am facing with apps update issues, the apps that i am trying to update is giving "insufficient space" errors. I tried to uninstall and re-install alternatives but i cant even re-install the app that i uninstalled!!!
Solution?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/advanced/audio.png
Thanks,

[Q] Problem in memory

Simple problem guys!! Please help me. I keep on loosing my memory as I surf web in opera. Al though I clear cache and everything. I dont have any custom rom. I am running 3.14 version official.

Urvansh said:
Simple problem guys!! Please help me. I keep on loosing my memory as I surf web in opera. Al though I clear cache and everything. I dont have any custom rom. I am running 3.14 version official.
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Go to any Google search bar and type in "Clear Temp for Windows Mobile" this is an app that will clear all of the temperary folders and files on your HD2. It allows you to choice wich apps you want to clear the temp files and folders too so if you don't want to clear a certain set for a certain app like YouTube for instance you can uncheck it. Also do a seperate search for "Clean Ram for Windows Mobile" it frees up ram on your HD2 so you can keep your memory level with only the app tht you are currently using. This is not a task manager although when you run this app it will close all open apps at that time. I use to get the same message using opera but don' t get it at all now that I use these apps daily. Also while you have Oprera open touch on the soft key at the bottom right hand corner of the screen then touch on the same spot again when tbe bar comes up this should bring up a pop up box select settings from there and then select advanced. In advanced you can set the cache size to maximum this will help resolve your issue too.

low on internal storage? read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923663
Maybe it's the same with you.

reijkelhof said:
low on internal storage? read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923663
Maybe it's the same with you.
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This is very good advice. I was under the impression that the downloads folder was cleared when you deleted the cache or used ClearTemp. Out of curiosity I just checked my download folder and it still has my last five downloads there and I have cleared my cache and used ClearTemp atleast three times today.
Another way of not having this problem with the download folder is to not select open when you download something. If you select save as you can rename the download what hou want to name it and choose where to save it at. I try to save my downloads on my SD card.

Thank You everyone!!