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Backing up (Via Activesync) - Am I missing something ?

Please forgive me if am missing something obvious - but I have tried several searches , but seen no mention of this anywhere - on this forum or anywhere for that matter !
I have had an XDA , XDAii , QTEK S100 & A BSQUARE POWER HANDHELD before getting my Exec
Now on all the aforementioned , I am sure Activesync gave me the option to completely Back up / restore my device
Whereas on the Exec this just isn't available as an option :?
Am I missing something REALLY obvious or what ? Please enlighten me !

zoidster said:
....Am I missing something REALLY obvious or what? ...
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No, you're not missing something. M$ removed the facility from ActiveSync v.4.x.

Thanks for that !
Riggghhhht ! OK then .... :roll:
Who's idea was that ? hope they got a kick up the ass
:evil:

The Micro$oft design requirement for all WM5 devices to have so-called "Persistent Storage" (flash memory) removed the threat of memory loss with a dead battery.
It appears the backup function is still within ActiveSync v.4.x, but it functions differently depending upon whether a WM5-device or an earlier is detected. With an earlier device, the backup function is there. However, still no excuse for not providing the function for WM5 devices for when the dreaded hard-reset is (too often) *essential* to overcome Microsoft and third-part bugs.
I'm currently using Sunnysoft's Backup Manager. Works reasonably well, but doesn't perform a complete clear then copy back. Instead puts the backed up files on top of what's there now, so you still have to remove the operator's crud that gets put back by the hard-reset.

I'm apalled by microsoft removing the ability to backup a wm5 device. It just stinks!
Does anyone think/know if its possible to fool activesync into doing a backup?
anyone interested in a petition to microsoft, to restore this functionality?

ActiveSync/WM5/backup problems
I have the same problem, you cannot back-up your files with WM5 and Active Sync 4+!! Also it will not automatically allocate memory as in WM3.
I've just bought WM5 and loaded it on my XDAII, looks like I'll have to go back to WM3. Problem I will have of course is restoring my previous settings. Anyone help!
Anyone thinking of upgrading to WM5, have a serious think first. I wish I had!
Regards
Tony

ActiveSync/WM5/backup problems
Problem solved! Thankfully 02 have a WM3 update on their site which will load over WM5. I was then able to restore my back-up file via ActiveSync 4. So goodbye WM5. I'm back with good old WM3. I think I'll wait until I can back-up via ActiveSync 4+? before I look to load WM5 again.
I've learned my lesson, always have a good think first before you update your software!

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zoidster said:
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No, you're not missing something. M$ removed the facility from ActiveSync v.4.x.
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Thats retarded, what if your phone gets stolen? Will installing ActiveSync 3.8 work?

The best way of backing up in my experience is to sync the device with a PIM such as Outlook. This is because if you backup using activsync, should you need to restore after a ROM upgrade, it oftern doesn't work. You are ok if the file stucture on the device is the same after the upgrade, but if this changes the restore will likely fail!
My guess is this is why MS have pulled this feature.
My advise is to sync with PIM and pull anything else of manually!

Sounds like a workable way of backing up just a few problems:
1 The registry
2 SMS/MMS?
The cemail.vol seems impossible to copy and it looks like the path is hardcoded to the root of the device leaving no SD options or anything.. I was absolutely gutted when I saw no backup option in ASync4.1.
MS really need to get this sorted in their next revision of ASync.

Will installing ActiveSync 3.8 work?

Not with a Windows Mobile 2005 device.. only Async4.x :roll:

Guys I just bought Spb Backup for WM5. Its fantastic. Does everything including texts MMS/Registry bla bla.
Puts everything back just the way it was before a hardreset!
Well worth £11!

problem starting Hermes *** URGENT HELP needed

I've just tried to unhide my extended rom with help of 2 registry keys. now my device does not boot up. It stays on white blank screen.
What can I do ? (other than hard reset ?)
Is there a way to boot up without reading registry keys ?

is there a way to edit the registry of a not booted device ?
or any way to open device without reading registry ?

Well, I'm only a newbie myself, so I don't know if this will help. I unhid my own extrom yesterday with reg tweaks. There we more than two changes to make, mind you, including the addition of a dword value that didn't exist on my 8525. You don't offer what type of device you are using, so that might limit how much help you get here, btw.
Anyway, have you tried soft resetting by using the stylus in the hole at the bottom of the device? That MIGHT do something different and let you get into the system.
There is a safe mode that some 3rd party offers ... I think SPB PocketPlus...but that won't help if it's not already installed, and I'm not sure it would help in your circumstance.
Anyway...good luck. I hope this, or someone else's advice can help you.
-pvs

pvs,
thank you. I had to hard reset. now I am trying to install everything back.
it will be hard...
Btw, I of course tried to soft reset with the stylus.
My device is I-Mate Jasjam (HTC Hermes)

mrmrmrmr said:
pvs,
thank you. I had to hard reset. now I am trying to install everything back.
it will be hard...
Btw, I of course tried to soft reset with the stylus.
My device is I-Mate Jasjam (HTC Hermes)
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What you didn't have a comprehensive back up!! Oh dear dear dear. That's a hard lesson I learned a while back. Now I could happily hard reset right now and be fully back up and running in say 10 minutes with SPB backup. A lesson for all.
Mike

in fact I am using SK tools for backup. but my backup was too old.
This is a new device and I installed a lot of software lately.

Well, look on the bright side, you have cleared out all the 'stuff' that builds up on a system after a lot of installing and uninstalling, and you're sure to build it better this time. It's just irritating that this kind of thing usually happens when you have no time.

mrmrmrmr said:
in fact I am using SK tools for backup. but my backup was too old.
This is a new device and I installed a lot of software lately.
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Mmmm yes I have that problem remembering to do the backup often enough, sods law something goes pear shaped when you haven't done one for a while
Mike

exactly ))
well its going well now...
just losing time.

I need a little help.
After a crash I hardresetted my Hermes and then used SK Tools to return to a backup point. But now when I try to activesync I get a message on my PC saying that the mobile device has already synced with another PC and it requests a new name for this PC.
I haven't synced with another PC. What shoukd I do ?

Werid? see this thread

help!!! all expert
My dopod 838 pro hangs sometimes once per day or on alternate days. Other than tat its working fine.
Will hard reset solve the prob>?? Will hard reset damage the phone? coz as everything is working well i don wan to do hard reset tat will worsten the phone function...
Anyone? help

You can hard reset your device as many times as you wish, it won't damage your phone at all.
Just be aware that all your personal information and all programs installed by you will be erased.
In other words, it will be returned to factory defaults.
Regards,
Rayan

juninho_10 said:
help!!! all expert
My dopod 838 pro hangs sometimes once per day or on alternate days. Other than tat its working fine.
Will hard reset solve the prob>?? Will hard reset damage the phone? coz as everything is working well i don wan to do hard reset tat will worsten the phone function...
Anyone? help
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Welcome to the board juninho, Rayan is right hard reset will not harm your device. I would not be rushing to hard reset though. A hang can be caused by many different things, but folks on this board cannot make very targeted suggestions unless they know:
when the hangs occurs
are you running any particular application,
do you have a few today plugins running,
do you fully close apps when you are not using them,
have you taken steps to stop active sync running by itself,
what apps are installed,
what mail eg push mail options do you run?
is device connected to the PC at the time it hangs,
does the hang occur at night or when on charge
does it occur when a notification or an alarm is due
etc, etc, etc
In short I'd try pinning down the cause or else a hard reset may only temporarily fix the problem until you re-create the problem again.
Cheers
Mike
PS Avoid attention grabbing thread titles and make the title as descriptive as possible. This helps people who are searching by thread title, I doubt anybody searches for the word "weird" if they are trying to get an answer to a specific question.

Thanks
oh ok thanks .
My applications are as follows:
IN PHONE MEMORY:
1) Pocket plus (cant use)
2) Spb dairy
IN MEMORY CARD:
1) Lexisgoo english dictionary
2) sprite backup(cant use)
3) transportation bus guide
4) spore map
Those cant use i just delete prog wit files left. ( I don tink i wan use registry editior)
Tot of buying spb backup - any recommanations???

hang
and forget..my phone hangs most of the tme after normal usage. The backlight went off wit the todays screen showing- then all the rest freezed

Well there are one or two things that concern me. It appears you uninstall by deleting files and not the add remove programmes facility. This can leave a messy load of unused files in the system/memory and it also makes the registry untidy/slow.
There are a couple of programmes that you say "can't run" but they are ones that should run. In fact sprite backup should be fine and is a good backup facility. (I use SPB however and find it excellent if you backup regularly and keep say most recent 5 backups + one done immediately after a hard reset. I then delete one of the oldest ones for every new one I create. I keep more than one because it's quite likely you backup thinking ebverything is working fine and then find later there's some application that used to work but you've saved after it went wrong - so you can see it's good to have a few backups going back maybe a couple of months.)
I think you have a choice here. Try to pin down what is causing the hang - could take a long time. Or go for a hard reset. In your case I fancy the hard reset because you have only a few things installed.
This may not cure your problem - in fact it lkely will not - but it will clean your system. This done you can then start doing some of the standard things listed on this forum to avoid hangs - I can pint you in the right direction if you need it.
Throughout this process take quite a few backups i.e after every installation you make. - boring I know but eventually you can reduce the number of backups you do.
Last alternative - just live with one hang a day. Soft reset does not take long. Could be very annoying though!! In normal use I think from experience that a hang once a week to two weeks is about normal!!
Mike

wow
wow thanks for e good advice!! ya think i just maual delete the prog tat don work and leave the files behind(i m afraid of deleting files tat will cause the phone harewire.
I tink i am goin to get the spb backup. I dwnloaded the trial version but cant backup everything cause tink somtin cause the hang prob. If after i do hard restart i will onli dwnload those prog which works and which i need.
i can keep my fingers crossed and see wat happens next.if it still hangs i will do a hard reset.
And any video player which i can use for dopod 838 pro to play music video to recommand?

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hELP....I finally did my hard reset-& dwnload essential prog - but it got worst! hang near to 3 times per day! wat shld i do>????
Right nw i got:
Phone memory- Pocket Plus
Spb diary
Card Memory- Spore digital map
Lexisgoo English dictionary
Pocket Xpdf
Spb backup
Transportation guide
Pls help

Did you take my advice and create a backup after EVERY installation you made? Indeed did you take a backup before the Hardreset?
Mike

Hi Juninho,
anyone of the apps you mentioned could be the root cause of your freeze issues.
It would be wise if you install a single app at a time and then rigourously test the stability of your device before installing another app.
I guess you might have to repeat the hard reset and start from scratch and remember take a backup after each app installation so ou can easily "roll-back" to a known current working state (this will save you future manual re-installations).
juninho_10 said:
hELP....I finally did my hard reset-& dwnload essential prog - but it got worst! hang near to 3 times per day! wat shld i do>????
Right nw i got:
Phone memory- Pocket Plus
Spb diary
Card Memory- Spore digital map
Lexisgoo English dictionary
Pocket Xpdf
Spb backup
Transportation guide
Pls help
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U mean every prog b4 installation do a backup? if i do , hw am i suppose to kw if which prog cause e hang? i mean- tat means i will have to install one prog, backup- then use it for few days to see if it hangs- then dwnload next prog- and the process continues???
Thanks

right on the money...

standby
I did i hard reformat but did not do single dwnload+ backup coz all my prog quite impt to mi.
However i found out one solution. Whenever after i used my phone, i just press the standby button everytme- this solved the hang prob
Thus tink it hangs coz it got prob goin into standby mode- anyone can help?
(even if i find out which appication hangs my phone-wat can i do>? don install? pls advice)

Help Needed: Registy change disabled touch screen

Dear All,
I messed my device by reducing
HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\Pressure Threshold
to 400. After restart, the touch screen is TOTALLY non functional (OK I accept, its a blunder ). Is there a solution without hard rest?.
I have tried several "Remote" registry editors to restore the value. Mobile Registry Editor gives "Access denied" error. Other softwares require something to be installed to the device.... I cant activate the "yes" required during installation.
Any advice/suggestion is most welcome!
Best regards,
Waqar.

what about this one?
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/

maybe you have total commander installed on your device? it has a registry editor under "plugins"... comfortable enough to edit all your needs

daze81 said:
what about this one?
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/
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Thanks! But it has same problem of "Access Denied". There is an unlock tool, but it still needs running something on PDA, which ends up demanding a "Yes" response on my PDA, which I cant do without touch!
Thanks again!

mavvy4ever said:
maybe you have total commander installed on your device? it has a registry editor under "plugins"... comfortable enough to edit all your needs
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I have it installed, but please revise, my problems is that touch screen is not responding, I cannt seems to navigate to required registry value and change something with just 5 keys!.... any other tips are most welcome!

waqarz said:
I have it installed, but please revise, my problems is that touch screen is not responding, I cannt seems to navigate to required registry value and change something with just 5 keys!.... any other tips are most welcome!
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Have you tried this:
http://www.mymobiler.com/
Just use your device via active sync!
greetz
sinoo

waqarz said:
I have it installed, but please revise, my problems is that touch screen is not responding, I cannt seems to navigate to required registry value and change something with just 5 keys!.... any other tips are most welcome!
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yes, at least navigating should work, if u go to the folder at the very top and hit the "LEFT" key then it moves on directory up until you reach "plugins" and from there to your regkey, but I tried to edit/alter the file with the hardkeys only, and yeah it didnt work... *sigh*
my last thought is that you could ask someone to send you a .reg file via MMS/Bluetooth/e-mail with the right setting of 11000 and you just run that .reg file to alter the value... hope it helps.

sinoo said:
Have you tried this:
http://www.mymobiler.com/
Just use your device via active sync!
greetz
sinoo
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oh yeah, that would work too

sinoo said:
Have you tried this:
http://www.mymobiler.com/
Just use your device via active sync!
greetz
sinoo
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Thanks again, but it also needed to run sumething on PDA, which required a touch input! Alas... I have hard reset the device as it was taking too much time, now I restoring my programs one after one. Hard lesson: Dont change touch sensitivity (too much )
Thanks all the folks for helping!!!
Waqar.

waqarz said:
Thanks again, but it also needed to run sumething on PDA, which required a touch input! Alas... I have hard reset the device as it was taking too much time, now I restoring my programs one after one. Hard lesson: Dont change touch sensitivity (too much )
Thanks all the folks for helping!!!
Waqar.
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do an automatic daily backup with spb clone or sprite backup on a microsd sprite backup was delivered with my o2 orbit 2 for example. dunno how much spb clone costs. besides that double backup with pim backup i never had to reinstall everything again with changing roms or hard resetting after that

Crashing Jade

Hi
I've had my Jade since February - I love the phone and it's features.
I use spb mobile shell on it, and find it even better.
I just struggle with the crashes - at least every other day it freezes while I am using it. Only twice has it frozen while I'm not using it.
Do I need a hard reset? Should I look at upgrading to 6.5 with all these cooked ROMS.
What about the RUU from HTC???(RUU_Jade_HTC_WWE_2.32.405.3_Radio_Sign_12.41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship)
Any advice gratefully received - I daren't tell anyone my phone crashes - they all think it is the 'best phone on the planet' - so I can't say!!!!
Chris

Your phone should still be under warranty. I've had mine for over a year now. It has never frozen but I'd had some active sync problems earlier on. The nice people at HTC replaced the main board. Try sending it in for them to have a look over. Alternatively, uninstall spb mobile shell and see if it still crashes.
In order to flash the 6.5 rom, you'll need to do a hard spl and if you do that, the warranty becomes invalid. I'd send it in first and consider this option later. There's a great thread in rom development which teaches you how to upgrade to 6.5 step by step. Good luck.

Thanks Tropical Cactus - I'm not sure how easy it would be to live without it while it got serviced!
Perhaps I need to hard reset, and think carefully what I install?!?

ChrisChorlton said:
Thanks Tropical Cactus - I'm not sure how easy it would be to live without it while it got serviced!
Perhaps I need to hard reset, and think carefully what I install?!?
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You can try a hard-reset (data-loss!) and use it without installing anything for a few days. If it freezes no longer you can keep it. If it does again you should give it to service!

MvBoe said:
You can try a hard-reset (data-loss!) and use it without installing anything for a few days. If it freezes no longer you can keep it. If it does again you should give it to service!
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You can avoid data loss by backing up data into SD. I use SPB Backup. You can even choose what to backup. After hard reset, restore data. You can even restore your customised programs / applications.

azahidi said:
You can avoid data loss by backing up data into SD. I use SPB Backup. You can even choose what to backup. After hard reset, restore data. You can even restore your customised programs / applications.
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That is a good idea, normally. In this special case it could be better to test a few days without restoring because we want to see if the handset in it's delivery status is OK or not. I mainly think for programs not to be restored.