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Haven't posted much here and read through the threads under the Evo board. Im not familiar with how HTC handles Android releases. My only Android and open source experience has been with Samsung and the moment.
Any rough ideas how long HTC has historically taken to release the open source for an android phone after its public launch? 2-3 weeks? 2-3 months?
Does anybody know if they will release kernel source (2.6.29) and Android 2.1 source or just their modified kernel source?
Hope these questions aren't too far off...
I think you may have to wait a while for that.
david279 said:
I think you may have to wait a while for that.
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i'm curious if anybody has any information which i wasn't able to find regarding this. the answer would either be based on previous information, inside information, or speculation. as i inquired previously and to combine your answer, is "a while" 2-3 weeks or 2-3 months? if nobody has any idea, that wouldnt surprise me either...
joeykrim said:
i'm curious if anybody has any information which i wasn't able to find regarding this. the answer would either be based on previous information, inside information, or speculation. as i inquired previously and to combine your answer, is "a while" 2-3 weeks or 2-3 months? if nobody has any idea, that wouldnt surprise me either...
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Well it took what, 5-6 months for the release of the kernel for the hero, so a while could be a long time.
the htc increadable source is already out, I don't think it will take that long at all
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The problem with the Hero was due to GSM and CDMA variants.
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Not really. HTC had the Kernel source, they just sat on it. Most of the Android devices HTC has released has taken about 6 months to get the kernel source. I would expect no different with this device. However, considering the Incredible source is indeed already released maybe they are changing that. Regardless, is the kernel version actually still 2.6.29 or do the newer devices have a newer kernel? I thought the N1 used 2.6.31.
chuckhriczko said:
Not really. HTC had the Kernel source, they just sat on it. Most of the Android devices HTC has released has taken about 6 months to get the kernel source. I would expect no different with this device. However, considering the Incredible source is indeed already released maybe they are changing that. Regardless, is the kernel version actually still 2.6.29 or do the newer devices have a newer kernel? I thought the N1 used 2.6.31.
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android 2.1 released for the samsung moment is on 2.6.29. idk how accurate of a gauge this is for the EVO.
thats unfortunate it took them so long to release the source code. i thought there was a time constraint on the GNU open license giving them a short time period between public release and deadline to release the open source. i could be wrong though...
HTC just released the Incredible's and Eris's source codes 5 minutes, ago via Twitter, so I don't think we will wait long.
htc
Because we know how much you developers love source code...Legend, Incredible, Desire, and Eris(2.1) kernels are online. http://ht.ly/1MODf
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TheBiles said:
HTC just released the Incredible's and Eris's source codes 5 minutes, ago via Twitter, so I don't think we will wait long.
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It's been up on their developer site for a couple weeks at least
chuckhriczko said:
It's been up on their developer site for a couple weeks at least
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Eh, well it was news to me.
When???
Have you already talked about it with HTC?
ppaajjaa said:
When???
Have you already talked about it with HTC?
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Ok you need to breathe buddy, it's just been announced it will most probably take a month before it will be available on HTC as they need to incorporate Sense to it.
well if you recall the desire made the jump from 2.1 to 2.2 pretty soon after the 2.2 announcement, considering the DHD is the new flagship phone id imagine a very similar situation if not there is always custom roms
Wonder if cyanogen will publish it before htc that will be sweet
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The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
andyharney said:
If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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+1 me too
andyharney said:
The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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me 2 well .. not again ... but just donate
It's only been released for developers apparently.
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Aamir.Badat said:
It's only been released for developers apparently.
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from what i understand, the actual rom hasnt been released, just the sdk for app developers - but i might be wrong
panyan said:
from what i understand, the actual rom hasnt been released, just the sdk for app developers - but i might be wrong
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dont you compile the roms from the sdk ?, pretty sure all the android files are available in the sdk you just need to create a rom from them. (i think)
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dont you compile the roms from the sdk ?, pretty sure all the android files are available in the sdk you just need to create a rom from them. (i think)
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Nope, the roms can't be made until the source code is released or another device gets it to be ported over.
Roms can be made from the sdk but don't turn out very well to say the least.
I expect an announcement soon from HTC, i doubt they will let their flagship higher specs phone fall short against their direct competitor, classic desire was the first device to get froyo after the nexus
I'm betting on it being out around Christmas time,
Probably in 2 weeks we'll start to get them trickling out...
I hope that dhd will get it as soon as possible, but wouldn't be surprised if Samsung s get's it first considering cooperation of Google with them on new G phone.
andyharney said:
The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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+1
Me too. I haven't donated yet if this happens ill be sending beer money to the boys for sure
I only started using CM last-night and i am already in-love
kermez said:
I hope that dhd will get it as soon as possible, but wouldn't be surprised if Samsung s get's it first considering cooperation of Google with them on new G phone.
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Maybe... But then again, I doubt google let samsung anywhere near the software for the nexus s. At least, I sure wouldn't after the galaxy's "interesting" software decisions.
hamdir said:
I expect an announcement soon from HTC, i doubt they will let their flagship higher specs phone fall short against their direct competitor, classic desire was the first device to get froyo after the nexus
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Unfortunately the N1 was pretty much the same as the Desire. And was built by HTC. Now the situation is a little bit different having Google cooperating with the plastic-toy manufacturer . Then again I doubt Galaxy S will get 2.3 sooner than the DHD, because they got to 2.2 about a month ago.
tkolev said:
Unfortunately the N1 was pretty much the same as the Desire. And was built by HTC. Now the situation is a little bit different having Google cooperating with the plastic-toy manufacturer . Then again I doubt Galaxy S will get 2.3 sooner than the DHD, because they got to 2.2 about a month ago.
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Plus in all fairness we all kno that Samsung products are for females... lol DHd's are a man thing
Lol meh
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I'm not that fussed on gingerbread tbh. I have had sense since the hero but have tried many vanilla roms. Now you can change "skins" on the dhd and with not a huge increase in an already blistering device for me its not that important?
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anything new about Android 2.3 on the Desire HD?
The title says it all
The dev (AdamG) of THE BEST AOSP Rom (Oxygen) for the HTC Desire is getting an SGS2!
Expect a fast, clean, simple, feature rich and bug-free ROM for the SGS2!
http://twitter.com/#!/adamg_xda
Nice. Seems like alot of devs moving towards the SG2 in favor of the sensation and atrix(lol)
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Yeah, was quite happy to read that! Since he just got a Nexus I didn't think he would be developing for the SGS2. Let's just hope CM get AOSP working (properly) soon...
The Sensation new screen shape is horrible, remembers me of 5800!
At least the SGS2 is a real evolution in all levels (just needed better plastic) and its rooted.
The promises of CM7 and MIUI have pushed many ex-HTC devs to try the SGS2
Where are you Paul Obrien??
Whoop whoop, loved Adam's work on the Desire, can't wait for his development on the SG2....
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Adam G is one of the best rom chef on the Desire forum. It's great news that he is coming to our device
Nice! I love Oxygen on my Desire and looking forward installing it on SGS2
His last tweet: "Royal mail just delivered me an early xmas present http://bit.ly/lKaBZt ".
Sweet.
http://bit.ly/lKaBZt
It shouldnt be too hard to port Oxygen to SGS2, Im suprised there have been no other AOSP ROMs made when its been out for 2 months now.
Love Oxygen for my Desire, and can't wait to see it on my SGS2!
So happy to see so much development going on for the SGS2, looks like Samsung really have it together and understand how to please everyone. I'm sure this phone will be their best selling so far and rightfully so!
I'm not manufacturer loyal and the SGS2 is my first Samsung, but I can't really think of any reason so far why my next phone wouldn't be another Samsung.
there has been 1 attempt by ryanza
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It shouldnt be too hard to port Oxygen to SGS2, Im suprised there have been no other AOSP ROMs made when its been out for 2 months now.
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I hope thats true, i cannot stand touchwiz, currently using miui on my sgs2 but loved using aosp on my htc desire, i wish you the best of luck to get aosp working.
Andy.
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It shouldnt be too hard to port Oxygen to SGS2, Im suprised there have been no other AOSP ROMs made when its been out for 2 months now.
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Hey, good to see you here. Atinm and Codeworkx are the guys who are working hard to get AOSP working at the moment, but they're struggling with some issues. There are several threads here where they give progression updates every now and then. I know things haven't always been good between you and CM developers on the Desire, but I believe Atinm and Codeworkx are happily sharing information with other -serious- developers so it might be worth contacting them. Well, it's great to see you here and I hope you get it working soon!
What's the Oxygen rom guys?
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What's the Oxygen rom guys?
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you have to see desire thread for oxygen rom,
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971904
i have used same on my desire.
but some how its battery life was not good as that of sense roms leedroid or coolexe.
also there are not more ports as we have seen in desire ,
devs have ported all most all present roms to HTC desire that was very cool.
something i am missing out here in SGS2 forum.
but hope for best future of samsung galaxy s2 will have ports like our old desire.
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What's the Oxygen rom guys?
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http://bit.ly/iNkzgV
Oxygen coming to sgs2. Most excellent. I have Oxygen on my Nexus S and love it. Looking forwards to getting the SGS2 when available plus Oxygen Rom.
Adam G is one of the best devs out there : ) not only in the desire section..... lucky galaxy 2 owner
Really great news... I was using Oxygen on my HTC Desire.
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http://bit.ly/iNkzgV
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coooool how did you do that!
the list included the following devices
HTC Sensation
HTC Sensation XL
HTC Sensation XE
HTC EVO 3D
HTC EVO Design 4G
HTC Amaze 4G
HTC Rezound
HTC Vivid
don't get shocked cause u didnt see Desire HD,htc said that this is the first list for devices that will get ics,and they will keep testing all other devices to see if is it possible to have ics,and will release a new list whenever testing is complete
in my openion this is how it goes,new devices will get it first,then they will say our dhd won't get it and finally they will release it =D
I hope!!!!
So? I love Sense, but I also have a HC tablet and let me tell you- the UI (ICS has virtually the same UI as HC) is brilliant. Once CM releases a build for DHD I'm dumping Sense and start using that.
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I hope too!
Who needs official ICS with sense 2 when there's such a heaving dev community?
Well i think theyll release it for a newer phone of theirs, and the DHD/Inspire Devs will just port that release to our phones.. Lol
you guys seem to forget that XDA devs need a base to begin with, so the more bases and kernel sources HTC provides the better for us, for example before the WVGA sense 3.0 DHD/incredibleS and runny leaks all customs ports of sense 3 needed to resize the graphics which wasn't a walk in the park, equaly right now roms based on WVGA sense 3.0/3.5 are running so well because we already have Gingerbread kernel source from HTC
so yes even if we rely on custom roms we will always need a compatible base
the good news is that HTC committed to ICS on Sensation XL which is WVGA and has close specs including the same GPU/CPU and RAM as our DHD, a fully working port is almost guarranteed
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Well i think theyll release it for a newer phone of theirs, and the DHD/Inspire Devs will just port that release to our phones.. Lol
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Specifically with the Sensation XL
i wish !! D
We don´t need official ics release, we only need to wait devs to port it, and sure will be better than official one....
Thanks devs.
Theres nothing stopping HTC from upgrading the Desire HD to sensation XL performance. If we can do it at Dev level like with Android Revolution, including upping the CPU to a safe level like 1.2 Ghz, then HTC can do it. They're just being picky.
we believe in our developers
And thanks to this guy ^…Im typing this from my ICS Inspire 4G. You dh.harald, truly rock my friend
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And thanks to this guy ^…Im typing this from my ICS Inspire 4G. You dh.harald, truly rock my friend
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Same I love you! This is the best!
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I wish Desire HD it won be long for ics too
HTC devices will most likely get ics before christmas
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HTC devices will most likely get ics before christmas
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Nice.. Already my daily driver.. Kudos to all developers..
I believe, i trully believe that The genius developers in this dhd thread will satisfy me and all this dhd thread members.
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Sense is an insult to ICS stock ICS is great and I hope HTC leaves a bit of the ICS feeling
I really hope to see some ICS soon on my HD
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So once the LTE Evo/One S/OneX makes it into the hands of developers, Will devs be able to glean anything from the new HTC handsets that will help in the development of ICS for our OG EVO?
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So once the LTE Evo/One S/OneX makes it into the hands of developers, Will devs be able to glean anything from the new HTC handsets that will help in the development of ICS for our OG EVO?
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Its the kernel thats really stopping it we have a aosp but sense needs to release the source code for the kernel for dev to get to working. its where the good stuff drivers are in. Its easy to port will need the kernel so......
And HTC is obligated to release kernel info within 30 days. If I remember correctly.
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Going by Ca1ne's post HTC will release 90-120 days after it's been out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24614403&postcount=168
Naters
NaterTots said:
Going by Ca1ne's post HTC will release 90-120 days after it's been out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24614403&postcount=168
Naters
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I believe that's only relating to an OTA update. It would only make sense that a newly released device would have a shorter time frame.