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Hi All,
A rather large review of the XPERIA X1 has been published at German Areamobile. Pretty much the first one to go into such depth as they did.
Although the review is originally written in German, thanks to Google all us non-German speaking/reading folks can have a go at it as well.
http://translate.google.com/transla...e.de/tests/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_X1/teil_I.php
Major Cons:
1. Flash on the camera is not good.
2. Some panels can take upto 2 to 4 seconds to refresh/load up at times. (He goes on to say in the conclusion that the lag will most likely be improved in a firmware update later)
Some things to note:
1. The reviewer says: "To put it in a nutshell: Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 is faster than HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro and Samsung i900 Omnia."
2. He goes on to say: "The touch screen also reacts more sensitive than those competitors." But it is behind Apple iPhone and also HTC Touch HD in terms of screen as well as speed.
Best Regards.
i would say that is true. In other words its the best win mobile phone atm
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i would say that is true. In other words its the best win mobile phone atm
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I'll probably have to agree with that.
I'm a little baffled how it manages to "outspeed" the Touch pro when they have the same processor and the Pro has more RAM. Is there some aspect of the hardware where they differ that I'm overlooking (did the 128MB of "extra RAM" for the graphics turn out true?)
Or is it more a matter of superior drivers? If so is the possibility of porting Xperia drivers to the Pro open? I'm still see-sawing between Xperia and Touch pro. My initial call was to take the "hit" in inferior screen for far superior Keyboard and TV-out and get a TP along with paying extra for an extended battery, but it seems the more I read the less clear it gets (especially when I see some of the issues the Touch Pro has on its board).
It seems every day I read something that changes my mind, lol.
Zaim2 said:
I'm a little baffled how it manages to "outspeed" the Touch pro when they have the same processor and the Pro has more RAM. Is there some aspect of the hardware where they differ that I'm overlooking (did the 128MB of "extra RAM" for the graphics turn out true?)
Or is it more a matter of superior drivers? If so is the possibility of porting Xperia drivers to the Pro open? I'm still see-sawing between Xperia and Touch pro. My initial call was to take the "hit" in inferior screen for far superior Keyboard and TV-out and get a TP along pay extra for an extended battery, but it seems the more I read the less clear it gets (especially when I see some of the issues the Touch Pro has on its board).
It seems every day I read something that changes my mind, lol.
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Buy my Touch Pro - got it back from repaircenter today and ouch - it feels cheap, slow and ugly compared to the Xperia after using the Xperia for some time now Was thinking of keeping it as substitute for my Iphone but I don´t even wanna use it anymore
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Buy my Touch Pro - got it back from repaircenter today and ouch - it feels cheap, slow and ugly compared to the Xperia after using the Xperia for some time now Was thinking of keeping it as substitute for my Iphone but I don´t even wanna use it anymore
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How much?
And yes, I only can say it again and again: Why did they do not write they played with a prototype? On the picture without battery one clearly can see (if you know how it is written and easier if you have seen it before): Prototype build PQ2 and the nect line: Prototype not for sale
I don't know how far the prototype reaches the end-build, but there is written prototype!
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How much?
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I am selling it for 4000:- Swedish kronor with car mount, 8 GB memorycard, two wallchargers and one carcharger Hardly used, had it two weeks untill it died and then it took four weeks to get it back from HTC - they really suck on support
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Well im pretty sure the graphics ram amount is true because it is faster then the touch pro without a doubt. Just starting up is faster then the touch pro. If not htc/sonyericsson just implemented the hardware better in the x1. Now im just waiting for a proper touchflo 3d release for the x1 then i wont even look at the htc phones for awhile
For how long has the german version been out?
p.s. and why is it without memory card?
The review is generally very positive for the Xperia.
But also a few things that are not quite right.
**"Aluminum Contruction". What? All specs call for Steel.
**"No 3D support". That's ridiculous. The Qualcomm chip has one of the best 2d/3d hardware/drivers support in the Industry. Check the video info in qualcomm's data sheet (bit longer to load, please wait....)
http://www.datasheetpro.com/817053_download_MSM7200_datasheet.html
**The panels takes up to 4secs. -- They have a proto with an old ROM. Latest videos feels smooth and quick.
**"Faster than Diamond & Pro." This one I believe them. Why? fine built vs cheap built. For example: same 3.2 mp camera but they explained why Xperia's is better. But definitely what can make a big difference is the better and faster graphics, so apps don't stay iddle while waiting for display to be done. They even compare with iPhone :
..."the highly sensitive touch screen can only be with the Apple iPhone 3G compare."
They praised the bigger keys and better layout of the keyboard. I like that.
I love the final sentence:
..."Thereafter, the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, without doubt to a new reference, to which all others must be measured."...
YEAH!!
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**"No 3D support". That's ridiculous. The Qualcomm chip has one of the best 2d/3d hardware/drivers support in the Industry. Check the video info in qualcomm's data sheet (bit longer to load, please wait....)
http://www.datasheetpro.com/817053_download_MSM7200_datasheet.html
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Are you kidding? And you trust all those BS on the paper? You better do some more research like http://www.htcclassaction.org/. So far, Qualcomm CPU is the worst (compare to Intel Xscale and Samsung) in any 2D/3D benchmark on all the pda I have.
Dissection - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/22/video-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-gets-white-glove-dissection/
Hello, I've got some questions for blackstone's owners :
- Are you "happy" with this phone ?
- Is it missing something for you ?
- What the best for you ? A Blackstone or a HERO (android) ?
- Do you know if HTC will release an official Windows Mobile 6.5 for it ??
I'm thinking of changing my Nike, and the HD looks great.
Wait for the HD2
If there is one thing lacking in the original HD, its that the CPU just isn't fully suited to drive a large display like the HD has.
In the HD 2, the Snapdragon is used, which isn't only much faster frequency wise, its also a new generation of ARM which has more pipes and instructions.
Clock per clock the new ARM CPU's can be seen as anywhere between 2 and 4 times faster.
At a clockrate considerably higher then the HD's 500+ (snapdragon is 1Ghz), the performance difference will be immense.
Calculate into that that Windows Phone (6.5) is considerably faster on the HD then 6.1 and you'll have the HD2 being an absolute monster.
I'm very happy with my HD, I have full freedom to do with it what I want, I can use all the apps that I need and want and I still prefer a Windows Mobile phone over anything else, because it has so much history and apps that have been around for a long time.
I love the Hero, simply drool over the design, but its said to be slow, even with Android.
So if you want Android, wait for the Touch HD2's mirror set that runs android.
The HD is a year old device, so buying it now, might give you a nice price, but there is a new generation of hardware coming out now which is leaps and bounds ahead of everything even half a year ago.
The HD's hardware's basis is still the same as a TYTN2, the CPU is a bit faster but the display is much higher resolution.
Yeah I know about the HD2 ... but I don't want to buy a new one .
I'm looking for an used one, so cheaper ...
The HD2 will be to expessive for me !!
All these questions have been asked many times before. I see no need to ask again. We have threads on android, hd vs hd2, will hd get wm6.5, are you happy with hd etc etc etc
Please use the search function
I've tried many 3D games, for example:
- Speed Forge 3D
- Quake 1
- Quake 2
- TinyWarz
None of them runs perfectly.
So if you want to be able some smooth 3D games, just pass HTC Hero, take a look at Motorola Milestone (powered by 600Mhz ARM Cortex) it performs way better (even if it has 2x2 larger resolution)
Some comparison videos
hero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDdiq21EOc
milestone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7qbqSnLU0
Qualcomm MSM7200A 528 MHz sucks (as i've haven't already know this.. my fault). It really show it's weakness when you run several task at the same time: download someting, listen to music and try to browse the internet/navigate to menus, etc.
I load websites on the browser quite often and the experience is not snappy on complex sites. For example the scrolling in pocketnow.com is so slow..
Beside of the CPU, HTC Hero is a cool phone. Too bad that HTC chosed this poor cpu.
i dont find the phone that bad on games. websites are also fine, on the pocketnow.com site you mentioned i can shoot about the page with blistering speed and i mean drag my finger all over fast with no lag..
Have you tried a different rom?
Speed Forge 3D is fine on my Hero. mcr 3.2 b5
@anarchyuk I haven't tried any ROM. My hero had already the latest HTC firmware..
@deejay300 by fine, do you mean like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxGrjxuyEU . Compare with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7qbqSnLU0 #0.22
You will see the difference
Much better than the hero video. I would say that that was pretty shocking in that first video. Obviously the hero isn't quite as smooth as the droid but it was pretty close.
Pretty much the same as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK_d...E2D406D9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19
Yeah, poor 3D and 90% of the users don't care.
If you want to play 3D game, buy a console and let people that love the agenda, contacts, GPS, mail, Internet enjoying their device.
They are as you said more strong and better devices for games! Buy them.
What I don't understand is why you even post such a topic, purely to bash the qualcomm cpu?
Reading you're sig makes it even more funny that you nag about the hero, knowing it wouldn't be able to outrun any phone with the same cpu.
So if you expected more it's you're own fault.
As you said 90% of the hero users did know about the 3d performance of the hero and don't nag. Are satisified. Those people thought before they bought.
You obviously didn't, don't come and nag to us about it...
There was a hope that the this qualcomm cpu run better in Android (and as general UI is smoother than WM).
I really don't understand why people just told the good parts of a device. The people should know that htc hero doesn't renders flash video perfectly, for example.
I like Hero, I really like the phone (even if it has many lacks, hope it will be fixed soon) but I want to tell others about its negative aspects. So people which want pure performance should pass this phone.
@profete162 let's be real. I surf a lot and the internet experience is not super great. The load time is not super good. Plus, flash experiance is far from perfect. Not to mention that on some sites the scrolling is soo laggin at least on mine (for eg: pocketnow.com). But yes, internet experience it's way better that the from my ex-WM (Touch Pro) one. I don't use the phone primary for games, but a nice 3D game from time to time it would be nice.
@deejay300 yes, still not smooth..
DSF said:
There was a hope that the this qualcomm cpu run better in Android (and as general UI is smoother than WM).
I really don't understand why people just told the good parts of a device. The people should know that htc hero doesn't renders flash video perfectly, for example.
I like Hero, I really like the phone (even if it has many lacks, hope it will be fixed soon) but I want to tell others about its negative aspects. So people which want pure performance should pass this phone.
@profete162 let's be real. I surf a lot and the internet experience is not super great. The load time is not super good. Plus, flash experiance is far from perfect. Not to mention that on some sites the scrolling is soo laggin at least on mine (for eg: pocketnow.com). But yes, internet experience it's way better that the from my ex-WM (Touch Pro) one. I don't use the phone primary for games, but a nice 3D game from time to time it would be nice.
@deejay300 yes, still not smooth..
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I think you should try a custom rom instead of the crappy stock htc one! adobe are rumoured to be releasing new versions of flash for certain handsets all the time that will work much better with web flash. So you never know you might get a better experience soon. Not so much if you go by http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/flash-10-1-snubbing-non-armv7-android-devices-too/ as the Qualcomm® MSM7200A is arm9!
I'm waiting the official 2.1 update from HTC, there are rumours that it will be released somewhere in march
And about the Flash 10 .. I don't know..
No, the HTC Hero will not be supported b/c it does not have the correct Android OS version and its chipset is not powerful enough. We require a device with an ARM v7 (Cortex) processor. Examples include the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets and TI OMAP3 series.
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http://gizmodo.com/5480985/why-most-current-android-phones-will-never-get-flash-101
DSF said:
There was a hope that the this qualcomm cpu run better in Android (and as general UI is smoother than WM).
I really don't understand why people just told the good parts of a device. The people should know that htc hero doesn't renders flash video perfectly, for example.
I like Hero, I really like the phone (even if it has many lacks, hope it will be fixed soon) but I want to tell others about its negative aspects. So people which want pure performance should pass this phone.
@profete162 let's be real. I surf a lot and the internet experience is not super great. The load time is not super good. Plus, flash experiance is far from perfect. Not to mention that on some sites the scrolling is soo laggin at least on mine (for eg: pocketnow.com). But yes, internet experience it's way better that the from my ex-WM (Touch Pro) one. I don't use the phone primary for games, but a nice 3D game from time to time it would be nice.
@deejay300 yes, still not smooth..
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I loved the HTC Hero - but the performance of its video playback was one of the reasons I quit and bought the Google Nexus One, which addresses just about all of the shortcomings. On the Nexus all my video podcasts and itunes music videos play without a glitch. Different roms were great but didn't solve some of the core performance issues. Still, the Hero was the greatest phone I had up until last year (and I had a lot!). It's great how these phones just keep getting better!
I dont see any lagging on my phone with these games.
even not with movies from torrent sites wich are mp4, doesnt matter what size, framerate or whatever they were encoded on, as long as it was mp4 or m4v it was great.
just downloaded the movies as an IPOD movie
If you've switched from an iPhone to a Desire HD, what do you think of it? Do you regret the decision or are you happy with it?
I've been delaying my choice of Android phone to wait for the Nexus S, but that's last year's hardware at a rip-off price, whereas I've had a play with a DHD in a shop recently and was blown away by it (THE SCREEN IS HUGE!)
So, yeah, if I get positive feedback from iPhone switchers, I'll sell my 3GS pick up the DHD for myself ASAP!
IMHO do it, trying it never hurts. But the experience may proof to be more exciting then you think. Comes from Nokia user who also used Iphone for work.
For me, it's just more freedom, with everything.
Best thing I ever done was ditch my iPhone, the DHD is just superior in every way.
my iPhone 4 colleague jaws drop whenever he sees my DHD so today I showed him some 8MP pics I took with it and he thought I was fooling him, I then showed him quake 2 emulated running blazing fast and he raised the white flag
check this thread for comparison with nexus S forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863405
I have both devices but I still prefer the iPhone 4.
Simple Usability + tons of apps : iPhone 4
Out of the box Tweakable, Superieur hardware : HTC Desire HD
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I am business user/power user, I had iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, Blackberry Pearl, Nokia N97, still having iPhone 3GS 32 Mb (with and without jailbreak), Desire AND Desire HD.
Hardware:
Desire means lot of power in your hands, even without rooting, AMOLED screen, same resolution, I will say iPhone 4 and Desire are on the same level.
HD means the next level! (more CPU, more memory. bigger screen, faster, ...), GPS is a REAL GPS and not a joke as in iPhone.
Software:
All the software I need exists for android and usually is better than the same in the iPhone release. The use of office suite in iPhone is a pain in the... sincronizing files, movies and music between phone and two-theee computers is impossible.
Navigation (for free in ANDROID, from Google) is the best I have seen in smartphones and the ram, CPU and screen size matters also from SW point of view...
HD weakness
still poor android market, not in term of number of applications, but in terms of the poor user interface and consequentely is hard to find really cool applications.
Appbrain is part of the solution
rom... I need to restart every 2-3 days, because it becomes slow (some memory leaks?)
iPhone is really much better only in backup/restore. If you loose it, or damage it just connect a new one and in 5 minutes you will have your phone, as it was in the last sync. Android and HTC are still far from this!
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I have both devices but I still prefer the iPhone 4.
Simple Usability + tons of apps : iPhone 4
Out of the box Tweakable, Superieur hardware : HTC Desire HD
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I use both, like you say iPhone best for apps/games. DHD for for messing with.
Wish i could afford more phones!
rooting your devices allows you to make full backup using both either clockworks recovery for a complete image backup and titanium offers complete backup where you can restore exactly what you need
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I use both, like you say iPhone best for apps/games. DHD for for messing with.
Wish i could afford more phones!
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Indeed, iP4 is my private phone. HTC Desire Z is my Business phone
...the rest is play stuff/hobby
Some useful responses here, thanks!
I think I might as well make the jump, and if I regret it, I can always sell the HD and get an iPhone 4 anyway
Desire HD vs Iphone 4, my opinions.
Im deciding on which phone to buy, here are my opinions.
Desire HD
-Big screen
-Looks more cooler
-Few have this phone, so its fairly unique.
-Android has better emulators (But iphone has better native games)
-*Better, faster out-of-the-box browser that has flash and auto text resize (Safari alternatives on iphone can browse as fast and as well)
-*-The default, out-of-the-box interface is much better (However, the interface is very inconsistent and custom interfaces on iphone4 can be made to look as good)
-*No need to use Itunes, simply drag and drop. (Jailbroken iphones can do this too)
-*Better music playback (Custom iphone 4 music player apps are as good)
Iphone 4
-Much more high quality games
-Better managed app store, and there are more apps for the iphone
-Can last longer. Even after iphone 5, iphone 4 will still receive plenty of support. 2 years later, im quite sure iphone 4 will still remain a very viable phone.
-I think iphone 4 has better battery life, not too sure on this.
So, it seems iphone 4 wins desire hd handily and the only thing going for desire hd is the physical aspect (screen,looks).
Correct me if ive made any mistakes or left out anything important.
I have the DHD but never used an iPhone but it seems like you've made up your mind ....
Dave
Well, you forgot some stuff:
- iPhone is bound to iTunes / DesireHD just to a plain USB Connection
- SD Card on Desire HD / iPhone doesnt have SD Card, but bigger internal memory
- Desire HD has 768 MB of System Memory, iPhone 4 has 512
- Android has true Multi Tasking, iOS has a kind-of multitasking
- Android is way more capable of customization
- Desire HD is faster in total, Sense UI looks brilliant, big display, and its cheaper than the iPhone 4
So yeah, Desire HD wins this battle for me.
you also forgot gingerbread, which the DHD will definitly get
gameloft just announced on their twitter page, nova 2, asphalt 6 and dungeon hunter 2 and brother in arms 2 are coming to android as well
i've downloaded all of gameloft games to my DHD including lets golf 2, need for speed shift, reckless racing they all are running super smooth
bottom line is games support on android is only getting better and now with gingerbread games tools we will get even more games
as for support you will get some support from HTC, one or two major updates like the desire/legend and wildifre received froyo, the desire received 2 mantainance updates after froyo so far
this is the first year after that you are on your own this is where rooting and customs roms comes in, if you ask me xda offers more than apple can offer, like the HTC diamond received the latest updates from HTC HD2 and the hero is running froyo with sense, when apple screwed the 3G with the 3.0 update
but yes iphone is easy peasy
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Well, you forgot some stuff:
- iPhone is bound to iTunes / DesireHD just to a plain USB Connection
- SD Card on Desire HD / iPhone doesnt have SD Card, but bigger internal memory
- Desire HD has 768 MB of System Memory, iPhone 4 has 512
- Android has true Multi Tasking, iOS has a kind-of multitasking
- Android is way more capable of customization
- Desire HD is faster in total, Sense UI looks brilliant, big display, and its cheaper than the iPhone 4
So yeah, Desire HD wins this battle for me.
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-Jailbroken iphones dont need itunes
-Iphone 4 32gb has all the space you need
-I dont see how this can be useful
-The way the multitasking is implemented in iphone is better
-Yeah, i agree the android interface can be customised, but DHD's sense is already very very good.
-Like i said, DHD's out-of-the-box interface is much better, but inconsistent across apps. And a themed and customised iphone can look as good as a DHD.
where i live, DHD is only slightly cheaper than iphone 4
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you also forgot gingerbread, which the DHD will definitly get
gameloft just announced on their twitter page, nova 2, asphalt 6 and dungeon hunter 2 and brother in arms 2 are coming to android as well
i've downloaded all of gameloft games to my DHD including lets golf 2, need for speed shift, reckless racing they all are running super smooth
bottom line is games support on android is only getting better and now with gingerbread games tools we will get even more games
as for support you will get some support from HTC, one or two major updates like the desire/legend and wildifre received froyo, the desire received 2 mantainance updates after froyo so far
this is the first year after that you are on your own this is where rooting and customs roms comes in, if you ask me xda offers more than apple can offer, like the HTC diamond received the latest updates from HTC HD2 and the hero is running froyo with sense, when apple screwed the 3G with the 3.0 update
but yes iphone is easy peasy
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Can you please tell me if the gaming quality is as graphically good as iphone 4? from what ive seen, the iphone version of the same game is usually much better
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Can you please tell me if the gaming quality is as graphically good as iphone 4? from what ive seen, the iphone version of the same game is usually much better
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depends on the game reckless is lesser res but much faster than iphone 4
all gameloft games especially the recent ones are as good if not faster in frame rate
but really if you're interest is purely games get the iphone 4, it will always have more games, plus you wont have to wait for them and the android does have a learning curve
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-Jailbroken iphones dont need itunes
-Iphone 4 32gb has all the space you need
-I dont see how this can be useful
-The way the multitasking is implemented in iphone is better
-Yeah, i agree the android interface can be customised, but DHD's sense is already very very good.
-Like i said, DHD's out-of-the-box interface is much better, but inconsistent across apps. And a themed and customised iphone can look as good as a DHD.
where i live, DHD is only slightly cheaper than iphone 4
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Sorry, but im not talking about jailbreaking or rooting, because both will end your warranty. Simple as that, the DHD is much more versatile than the iPhone, out of the box and without hacking.
With hacking, the Android OS is alot more customizable than a rooted iPhone. True story, I know both since all my work buddies have an iPhone since its the companys business phone here. They are all amazed by the amount of customization I can do on my DHD, and of course the speed.
True, Android has its flaws, every OS has, and Android is still pretty fresh on the market.
You dont see the advantages of a SD Card Slot? Well, the advantages are, that you can put the memory easily into a SD Card Reader and read your photos, music and all that stuff on other devices without plugging the Phone everywhere. Plus with SD Cards you can manage multible data storages, and you can choose whatever storage type and size you want. Simple, isnt it? Jeez.
Oh, and you dont see the use of more system memory? That's funny... More system memory usually means to be capeable of running more complex program structures. And higher quality imaging... If thats no use at all, we could all go back to our AMIGA computers and be happy that it just sits there and shows 16 colors or something ^^
Android Multitasking is superior compared to the iphone multitasking. Just go ahead and try some... Like while calling open up your GPS or Google Maps to give the person on the other end directions or adresses. It is so comfortable and easy on my DHD.
Games are the most minor part Of the phone yes iphone wins for games, every thing else is subjective.
For me androids ui makes more sense, and looks cleaner and makes better use of the limited screen space on phones.
I barely use the market, and when I need something an appropriate app is there
Also iphone home cannot match the beauty you can create with something like launcher pro.
As for manufacturer long term support minor issue if you buy a popular device community support is more valuable.
Quite simply android is for people who like to fiddle with the latest and greatest, iphone is for people who either just want it to work and are not inclined to go beyond the average user, or they buy iphone because its fashionable *facepalm*?
In the end you have to pick what is best for you
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more free apps in the android market, like we got angry birds for free
i also looked it up, the iphone 4 features the SGX535 28M poly per second or roughly 37million triangles per second
adreno 205 on the DHD is 41million triangles or roughly 30M poly per second
also the adreno 205 features a 2D vector accelerator
so the DHD beats it with a small margin, keep in mind the iphone 4 has to produce a higher resolution and hence waste a lot more resources
The Leo boots android and wp7,HD boots nothing,it is done right? I can not imagine to have a new device ,I spent all my money which I earn last 3 holidays by washing dishes in a hotel I dont know why but just fell sad
What do you mean, done?
Mine is alive and kicking...
I mean ,it is dying ,like an old manwith a weak heart.My HD cost 3700 yuan ,now,here in my town you can buy a htc desire hd with 3300 yuan,or a hd with 2650 yuan,it is crazy!
I agree, having recently just purchased the HTC Touch HD, I was really looking forward to playing around with the front cam with apps and stuff.
I am somewhat disappointed how the possibilities with this device was completely missed, who's fault is it, MS for just not supporting it enough, the developers of the larger applications (Skype, etc) from literally dropping the OS.
I am happy with my phone, but I can see a huge potential just lost.
Maybe its me, but it seems the dev's of the OS just want stronger and stronger hardware, instead of using whats currently around.
Fair enough the device is getting old, but still a massive wasted opportunity if you ask me.
The problem in fact are devs following this trend. Simply abandon old phones and move on to new ones.
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The problem in fact are devs following this trend. Simply abandon old phones and move on to new ones.
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Its a fact of life, new devices with better specs come out and people move on. The LEO is an exception to the rule due to its 1GB Snapdragon processor, plus it was the last real WM device released before WP7 came along. Most if not all new devices are still using 1GB processors, some even less, hence why its longevity
Speed doesn't matter that much. When it comes to portability and durability, my old HTC Orbit 2 is great! Holds battery for very long while mantaining usability(400mhz is a bit slow, but enough for 98% of apps.
HD2, well, is powerhorse, but last 1 day on average, very clumsy and fragile.
So newer doesn't always means better.
I've stopped using my Touch HD and started using my old Kaiser. It's older and less powerful than the Touch HD but it can run a very stable and fast Android. The Kaiser was lucky in having excellent xda'ers continually working on it.
I think you're right. The HD is getting a bit old, and the slow cpu @ 800x480 + not very sensitive resistive screen is kinda killing it. That's why most devs have left us I think... *wants an HD2
@Fallen Spartan
You might want to change that B into hz .
Dead? no its alive and kicking!
You can never call anything over £100 value dead!
mobiles4cash.com is the place to be!
£133 for the Touch HD
Looking for a replacement now and getting mine sent away asap!
I have a couple of newer devices [omnia II and acer S200] but still use my HD mostly, if I could only have one of those three, I would keep the HD...... despite the dreadful cpu and not very sensitive screen, I like the overall package best.
I buy WM [or used to] because I like WM, not because I want to run a less versatile and functional OS on the hardware.
The capacitive screen on the HD2 isn't a plus in my eyes, and is the sole reason why I never bought one, ever seen someone trying to use excel or remote desktop on one, it's like a circus act.......
gerryjoson said:
The capacitive screen on the HD2 isn't a plus in my eyes, and is the sole reason why I never bought one, ever seen someone trying to use excel or remote desktop on one, it's like a circus act.......
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That's exactly what i was thinking.
our hd is not dead
i had mine for 2 years
last 3 months running android
still i will not replace it for another phone
I find it odd, though, how the Touch Diamond 2 gets the official 6.5 ROM upgrade but not our Touch HD. I've gone through what I could find spec-wise of the two models; their processors seem to be the big difference (outside of the physical size, and battery), where the Blackstone seems to have the better of the two, but doesn't get the 6.5?
The Touch Diamond 2 was released not long before 6.5 was, HTC promised there would be an upgrade to 6.5 for people who bought it before it came preloaded, the HD is quite a bit older and there was no promise of any upgrade at the time of release.
There's little difference between the qualcomm 7200 and 7201a, the 7201a is a change to the 7200 in response to a legal dispute with broadcomm, the 7201a has neutered video recording as a result of something to do with this dispute, Qualcomm and Broadcomm came to some arrangement and thus the use of 7200 resumed in the TP2 and Touch diamond 2.
Personally I prefer 6.1 anyway, so the lack of an official update is lost on me.