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I have an older HTC HD and it cannot play 800 x 480 video files smoothly so I usually have to reencode it to a resolution of 480 x 272 to have smooth playback with coreplayer with about 105% average speed on the benchmark results.
My question is, if I buy the HTC HD2 with its more powerful Snapdragon 1GHz processor, would coreplayer be able to play .avi or .mkv files with 800 x 420 resolution smoothly with over 100% average speed on the benchmark results?
Player smooth video with good bitrate and high resolution is very important to me because I do a lot of movie watching with my older HTC HD.
Hey, yes it can!
I have done some Benchmarking. You can see it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616058
Always
Try a version of Coreplayer optimized for Snapdragon from Toshiba TG1 ...
Works flawlessly for me in GDI render .
It's impossible to answer this - it depends so strongly on which video you're talking about. If you've got an mp4 file with a bit-rate of 2000kb/s encoded using CABAC then CorePlayer will have significant problems with it. Lower bit-rates (and avoiding CABAC) may well be fine.
This is slightly odd question, in a way: where are you getting your 800x420 videos from? I've never seen a downloadable video at that resolution (except for some samples on these fora). If the answer is that you are making them yourself by transcoding an existing file to change the resolution, then this begs the question: why on Earth would you want to transcode it into a format that you need CorePlayer to play? If you're transcoding then it would make more sense to transcode it into a format that can be played easily using Pocket Media Player or the HTCAlbum player - both of which do a much better job than CorePlayer on the (admittedly narrow) range of formats and codecs that they support.
Coreplayer does a very good job on the sort of lower-resolution AVI encoded with xvid that people normally use to distribute SD TV or DVD rips. So, between them, you pretty much cover the bases: stuff with a resolution of >800x480 that is transcoded should be converted into something you can play in HTCAlbum, while anything with lower resolution will probably play quite nicely in CorePlayer.
Yes, 800x480 avis should play fine on Coreplayer, tested with a few HD trailers down-res to 800x480 and they play fine. But of course, don't expect to play 800x480 mp4s with high bitrates in Coreplayer, it doesn't bode well. MKVs wise it might not work from the limited testing i've done in that area.
@Shasarak, some videos for some strange reason prefer to be transcoded into some formats. For example, on my setup, mkvs with vorbis/dts audio, when transcoded into mp4, they tend to go OOS. However when transcoded into divx/xvid, they work fine...Not sure exactly why, but that might be a reason.
Also, HTC Video player doesn't allow any form of playlist or folder based playback. Some people might prefer this to watching a movie, exit, click another video, rinse and repeat.
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I also primarily upgraded to the HD2 for movie watching. Love it.
Plays 700meg avi's in any format via coreplayer. Usually around 180% so heaps of head room.
Screen is also a massive improvement and battery life is better. Eg the hd would only play 2 movies before flat however the hd2 is only at 50% battery after two full length movies.
At this stage after 2 months I have no reason to look for a new phone.
Where, where?
Azitrox said:
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Where can I get it?
DinoZ1 said:
Where can I get it?
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It's not all that imo.
Tested it with some re-encodes I made, and whilst it does play them smoothly (especially compared to the retail 1.36 version), the quality needs to be dropped slightly to do so, whereas HTC Album plays it smooth and at max quality.
Azitrox said:
Try a version of Coreplayer optimized for Snapdragon from Toshiba TG1 ...
Works flawlessly for me in GDI render .
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DinoZ1 said:
Where can I get it?
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You can't, or at least not legally - it's illegally pirated.
Shasarak said:
You can't, or at least not legally - it's illegally pirated.
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It is legal to me as I bought a full licence
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It is legal to me as I bought a full licence
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Doesn't matter.....you still won't get any assistance on where to find it here.
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It is legal to me as I bought a full licence
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I'm afraid it isn't and you didn't.
You may well have a licence for the commercial version of CorePlayer. You do NOT, however, have a licence for the hardware-accelerated version, unless you actually own a Toshiba TG01. The two products are not the same, and are covered by different licences. (And even if you do own a TG01, you still don't have a licence to take the application off there and install it on another phone.)
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You can't, or at least not legally - it's illegally pirated.
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Yes , is `very` pirated , but for benchmark purpose ONLY I try it on my HD2 . Again , it`s amaizing !!
core player do not play mkv-files.
on my device i have sound but no picture.
Shasarak said:
It's impossible to answer this - it depends so strongly on which video you're talking about. If you've got an mp4 file with a bit-rate of 2000kb/s encoded using CABAC then CorePlayer will have significant problems with it. Lower bit-rates (and avoiding CABAC) may well be fine.
This is slightly odd question, in a way: where are you getting your 800x420 videos from? I've never seen a downloadable video at that resolution (except for some samples on these fora). If the answer is that you are making them yourself by transcoding an existing file to change the resolution, then this begs the question: why on Earth would you want to transcode it into a format that you need CorePlayer to play? If you're transcoding then it would make more sense to transcode it into a format that can be played easily using Pocket Media Player or the HTCAlbum player - both of which do a much better job than CorePlayer on the (admittedly narrow) range of formats and codecs that they support.
Coreplayer does a very good job on the sort of lower-resolution AVI encoded with xvid that people normally use to distribute SD TV or DVD rips. So, between them, you pretty much cover the bases: stuff with a resolution of >800x480 that is transcoded should be converted into something you can play in HTCAlbum, while anything with lower resolution will probably play quite nicely in CorePlayer.
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I have found that any videos I play in Media Play or Album player play back with the video and audio out of Sync. I therefore use CorePlayer as it allows me to change the sync to compensate.
It is strange as the video files play in perfect sync on my PC but not on the HD2.
Anyone have any ideas why this would be?????
i have a video thats in 720p. its avi which the n1 couldnt play so i renamed it as an mp4 like the other movies on my phone but it still wont play, the phone "cannot play this video"
I use doubletwist but it wont sync this video so i had to just click and drag from the folder to the sdcard
Is the problem that the n1 cant playback 720p? Am I not transferring the file properly? Because i was under the impression it would play 720p...Ive had three android phones and trying to play videos on them has always been like flapping my arms to fly, it never works and i feel stupid for trying...thanks for any help
I'm no expert, but you can't just rename a file to encode it in a different format. I don't know what double twist is, so can't help there.
Android hasn't been good for video playback, but all my videos that I encoded down for my Hero play much better on the N1.
The fact it wont play the 720p video files you put on there doesn't meen it can't, it just means you need to encode them into a format that the N1 likes.
I think the biggest problem is the amount of data the video uses per second compared to the amount of data the N1 can get off your SD card. Is it class 6?
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I'm no expert, but you can't just rename a file to encode it in a different format. I don't know what double twist is, so can't help there.
Android hasn't been good for video playback, but all my videos that I encoded down for my Hero play much better on the N1.
The fact it wont play the 720p video files you put on there doesn't meen it can't, it just means you need to encode them into a format that the N1 likes.
I think the biggest problem is the amount of data the video uses per second compared to the amount of data the N1 can get off your SD card. Is it class 6?
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I know this is VERYYYYYYYYYYYY irrelevant, but in your sig, it says "HTC Nexus One", where as the HTC codename(?) for the N1 is the "HTC Passion", Nexus One is it's Google branded name.. hence "Google Nexus One".
I hate calling people out on stuff like this, because it is a possibility that I could easily be wrong.. but it is something that kinda irritated me lol >.> and please don't reply back harshly.. I just had to say it ~.~ but you probably already know
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i have a video thats in 720p. its avi which the n1 couldnt play so i renamed it as an mp4 like the other movies on my phone but it still wont play, the phone "cannot play this video"
I use doubletwist but it wont sync this video so i had to just click and drag from the folder to the sdcard
Is the problem that the n1 cant playback 720p? Am I not transferring the file properly? Because i was under the impression it would play 720p...Ive had three android phones and trying to play videos on them has always been like flapping my arms to fly, it never works and i feel stupid for trying...thanks for any help
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The problem is the video is in the wrong format and the Nexus One doesn't have the proper codec. No you can't add codecs to the Nexus One. You will have to find software to convert it into a format it can recognize.
The supported video codecs for the Nexus One are on the Google Nexus One website.
Eclair stated..
I know this is VERYYYYYYYYYYYY irrelevant, but in your sig, it says "HTC Nexus One", where as the HTC codename(?) for the N1 is the "HTC Passion", Nexus One is it's Google branded name.. hence "Google Nexus One".
I hate calling people out on stuff like this, because it is a possibility that I could easily be wrong.. but it is something that kinda irritated me lol >.> and please don't reply back harshly.. I just had to say it ~.~ but you probably already know
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I think they are pretty d**** identical, tho no doubt someone wiser with access to both 'phones will advise me otherwise...
if you run APP "Quick System Info" it will report all sorts of nerdy stuff about what your dog is doing: The report from my Nexus One starts...
#Created by Quick System Info version 1.3.1
Device: passion
Model: Nexus One
Product:
Brand: google
Release: 2.1-update1
Build: ERE27
Locale: en_GB
Linux version 2.6.29-01117-g4bc62c2 ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.4.0 (GCC) ) #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 20 10:24:55 PST 2010
Basic Info
================================================== ======================================
* SD card storage
Total: 3.69GB, Free: 2.13GB
* Internal storage
Total: 196MB, Free: 148MB
* Memory
Total: 213MB, Free: 38.74MB, Idle: 4.26MB
* Processor
ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) 998.4MHz
* Network Address
no.I.am.not.that.dumb.guyz....
Scaling CPU frequency:998400
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
BogoMIPS : 662.
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i.e. the beast itself (my N1) appears to describe itself as both Nexus One & Passion.. schizo or what eh??
(You can send yourself the report (HTMLorTXT) by email... and yes, the APP is free.. )
Cheers!
Lodger
theartfullodger said:
Eclair stated..
I think they are pretty d**** identical, tho no doubt someone wiser with access to both 'phones will advise me otherwise...
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Um.. you do know that N1 and the Passion are the same device, HTC first gives their own personal code names (from my understanding) to devices they create. I'm assuming whatever company asked for them to make the device then gets to rename it, or just keep the name (like the HTC Hero).
For example(s) the HTC Dream, is the G1, the HTC Sapphire, is the MyTouch. The HTC Passion, is the N1.
And myself I don't see anything wrong with saying HTC G1 either.
I understand your point, I just think mine is an HTC device that people call the Nexus One, so it's an HTC Nexus One...
I also have in my sig HTC Universal, wasn't that called the JasJar by HTC?
Anyway, we'er going way off topic here.
Staying on topic, in my understanding android by default cannot play .avi files. As AndyCr15 mentioned, you can't just rename a file and expect it to magically reencode itself. Just like how I can change the Ford badge of my Ford Focus into a Porche badge doesn't really make it a real Porshe does it?
You'll have to get yourself a video file converter and re-encode it to the approriate format.
^what they said. it's done in the wrong codec. there are avi files it will play, i believe, but it can't do divx or xvid right now encoded avi files. you need to find an h.264 something encoded avi.
doubletwist 'should' be able to do conversions for you. but, it takes forever and a day. probably faster to do it with ffmpeg. google for instructions
Archos 5 android internet tablet has the best media player but i don't know if anyone can extract it and make it work on N1.
you can download the firmware off their site
I already posted a while back about it...
It plays pretty much every video/audio format and does it perfect ...even plays 720p MKV
and even plays youtube @ 720
The archos has lower specs
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
Use handbrake to transcode your videos to mp4.
Just use the iphone profile, but make sure to change video resolution since iphone screen is smaller.
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Use handbrake to transcode your videos to mp4.
Just use the iphone profile, but make sure to change video resolution since iphone screen is smaller.
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He's is talking about 720p even if you try to play an 720p Mp4 it wont play
o rly?
I reencoded the shuttle video from youtube in 720p and it plays without a hitch. (its already in .mp4 container on youtube, but still needs to be encoded)
1080p wont play though
yea i take that back think something was wrong with the mp4 vid i was using all i got was sound no vid at just re encoded wall-E 720 and plays fine
um guys. I hate to break it to you, but seeing how the screen resolution of the nexus one is 800x480, it is very fundamentally incapable of displaying 720 lines of vertical resolution.
Sure, you may have a video that is 1280x720, and the nexus one may play it, but it's scaled.
It's like hooking up a 15 inch lcd monitor to your computer and watching a video whos resolutions is 1920x1080, you can't say you're watching it in HD, because your display doesn't support an HD format.
that actually made sense.
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um guys. I hate to break it to you, but seeing how the screen resolution of the nexus one is 800x480, it is very fundamentally incapable of displaying 720 lines of vertical resolution.
Sure, you may have a video that is 1280x720, and the nexus one may play it, but it's scaled.
It's like hooking up a 15 inch lcd monitor to your computer and watching a video whos resolutions is 1920x1080, you can't say you're watching it in HD, because your display doesn't support an HD format.
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@kyleroden — we kind of realize it will be downscaled to fit the screen
but if you dont feel like transcoding (which takes time) and have enough free space on the sd card, why not leave the vid as is?
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Archos 5 android internet tablet has the best media player but i don't know if anyone can extract it and make it work on N1.
you can download the firmware off their site
I already posted a while back about it...
It plays pretty much every video/audio format and does it perfect ...even plays 720p MKV
and even plays youtube @ 720
The archos has lower specs
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
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It shouldn't be that hard if people can rip the Nemo Player from the Acer Liquid.
Think the reason why many 720p mp4 files won't play on the nexus one (or even iphone) depends on what encoding profile was used to encode the stream. The 3 mainly used encoding profiles are "baseline", "main" and "high". Anyone worth half their salt would encode 720p material in the "high" profile since is supports more bells and whistles like b-frames etc. and is normally intended to be played on a HD screen/TV with a more powerful player/decoder/PC etc.
The majority of mobile players don't really support the "high" profile since it requires more processing power to decode compared to "baseline". So chances are most 720p and higher materials need re-encoding for it to play unfortunately. Well since you are gonna transcode the stuff anyways you might as well set it at the correct resolution since the encoder software is going to a much better job scaling than on-the-fly scaling on the nexus one.
So is it a codec issue or a hardware limitation? I was expecting a 1GHz Snapdragon to be capable of playing back 720p h264 videos.. Yes I know the N1 doesn't have a 720p display but it would be convenient if transcoding videos weren't necessary..
I haven't seen anything one way or another but does anyone know if the Evo will support divx I know HTC has it planned for the desire and Samsung already had it on the galaxy s n the moment. It just makes sense with the hdmi out
It would definitely make sense considering everything. We'll have to wait and see.
The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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If it wasn't for Apple, I don't think Android would be the way it is now.
There is a lot to thank the competition for.
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The H.264 video codec and mp4 format provides superior video quality, especially on the screen that the Evo uses.
Apple has done 1 thing in their existence that is actually useful.
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sure it does better quality, but I really don't want to have to encode all my files from mkv to mp4 just to put them on my phone, i'd rather just play em straight
I don't know about you, but I don't want to copy 15GB movies to my phone. Conversion is really the only way to go.
or just stream them to the device. I'm just not up to date with HD streaming, but normal video streams well.
you'd need nearly a 20mbit connection for that. 15GB/120min/60sec*8
divx plays okay on evo using xyzflash player but looks better and played smoother when I converted to h.264
Does DoubleTwist automatically convert stuff for you?
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divx plays okay on evo using xyzflash player but looks better and played smoother when I converted to h.264
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I noticed (in another thread) you saying you got to play with one. Do you still have access to it?
yes i do indeed
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I noticed (in another thread) you saying you got to play with one. Do you still have access to it?
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dump it..dump it!
ehh im a puss. pics and my opinion on programs isnt proprietary and wouldnt risk my job. Ripping the source and uploading it before launch would be.... so im going to chill and be selfish for a good little while.
Slightly off topic, but would you consider recording some video on the Evo camcorder and posting it so we can check it out?
Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I really love my Tab for web-browsing and gaming, but you have to admit it sucks at video playing. MP4 and 3GP are crappy formats that are hardly used in RL und converting your whole video and movie collection isn't a real option.
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
In theory, the Tegra 2 has more than enough power to play 1080p files, right?
I already tried like 6 different media players but all of them weren't able to play 720p mkvs nice and even non-HD-avi-files felt a little slowed-down.
So can we hope for a hardware-accelerated media player that enables alle the joy of moving pictures for us? Will possibly acer itself help us out on this issue? What are Samsung and Motorola doing on their Gingerbread tablets to enable nice media playing?
Hoping for a better tomorrow
Cheers
pint
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Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
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you sure about that?? my 101 throws a fit with 1080p mkv videos and both use the the firmware.
but i agree, i would love better video support on the iconia, since it runs circles around my archos when it comes to everything else.
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Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I really love my Tab for web-browsing and gaming, but you have to admit it sucks at video playing. MP4 and 3GP are crappy formats that are hardly used in RL und converting your whole video and movie collection isn't a real option.
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
In theory, the Tegra 2 has more than enough power to play 1080p files, right?
I already tried like 6 different media players but all of them weren't able to play 720p mkvs nice and even non-HD-avi-files felt a little slowed-down.
So can we hope for a hardware-accelerated media player that enables alle the joy of moving pictures for us? Will possibly acer itself help us out on this issue? What are Samsung and Motorola doing on their Gingerbread tablets to enable nice media playing?
Hoping for a better tomorrow
Cheers
pint
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Tried VPlayer? it costs like $4/ £2.30 but it can play practically all standards, not sure how it fares for 1080p tho.
I had it playing .avi and .mkv fine though.
Vplayer--
Video formats: divx/xvid, wmv, m4v, flv, rmvb, avi, mkv, mov, mp4, 3gp, ts, tp...
Streaming: http, rtsp, mms and m3u(apple http stream, m3u8)
I use UPnPlay (network streaming) along with MoboPlayer and it has played everything i have on my NAS very well.
Also I know Rockplayer gives you the option of hardware/software decoding so you may want to give that a try if you haven't already. There is a free version.
Both moboplayer and rock player are useless for my 720p and 1080p videos... total stutterfest, but that's a known thing for tegra devices on 3.0...
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Both moboplayer and rock player are useless for my 720p and 1080p videos... total stutterfest, but that's a known thing for tegra devices on 3.0...
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Hmmm... I use moboplayer, and every 720 did I've tried has been great! I haven't tried any 1080p vids though.
tested 1080 quality....the videos lag and the audio missing....
hope acer will figure it out....
Avatar & 10,000 B.C. in 1080P using UPnPlay & MoboPlayer streamed from my WD NAS, looks great. No lagging at all.
not another one of these threads..
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not another one of these threads..
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Guess what? You aren't being forced to read this thread.
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Guess what? It pushes down other, more quality threads.
Guess what? There's already something like 6 or 7 threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE already.
Guess what? People need to learn to use the search function.
Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
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Guess what? It pushes down other, more quality threads.
Guess what? There's already something like 6 or 7 threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE already.
Guess what? People need to learn to use the search function.
Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
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Guess what? You've just caused this thread to get bumped several times.
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I have been trying all the suggested encoders to get smooth playback for film material as 60/50hz works fine. I maybe more sensative to it than others as I tent to look for it on moving objects. But I got it to replace a media player too.
I tried the script posted in another thread with good results but the jump is still there.
Bought DVD Catalist 4 with same results.
Freemake with custom profile same again.
Handbreak I find too slow but I read it works but can't verify it.
Any Video Converter Pro with xoom profile WORKS - it has very little judder but having to strip the subtitles out of the MKV every time is a real pain ( Anyone know how to disable them ) and it's too expensive anyway.
Trying to edit DVD Catalist 4 profile now but no success yet
Oh and I tried Vplayer , Rockplayer , Moboplayer and any others I could find
Hope my two weeks at this helps somone else out.
@RaveOn911
With any problem, you need to find its parameters. Only a handful of people notice the "micro-stutter" deal, so it's either a user sensitivity issue, or a tablet-centric issue (which could be hardware or software, user-caused or device defect).
Ask somebody to watch a video clip on your tablet, and ask them if they see anything wrong with playback. Don't tell him beforehand about "micro-stutter", as you don't want to bias his observation.
If he notices the stutter, it's your tablet. If he doesn't, it's you.
If the first, then bring a video clip on a uSD card into a store and try it on other tablets (hopefully with same or similar make as yours). If it doesn't happen on other tabs, then replace your tab. If it happens on every other tab, then again it's you.
If you have heightened sensitivity, then there may be params that can alleviate the issue. The default interleave for MP4Box is 0.5s. You can reduce this interleave, eg
MP4Box -inter 250 -add infile.mp4 -new outfile.mp4
(or)
MP4Box -tight -add infile.mp4 -new outfile.mp4
MP4Box works on MP4 only. Given that MKVs can only play in software mode currently on Teg2 tabs, it's a fool's errand to play MKV and claim that they don't play smoothly. Avail of the native support.
Mobo Player plays my mkv and xvid/divx AVI's just fine. I'm no codec/encoding expert, but from what I've read it's worth re-encoding some of the files to a more manageable bitrate for both audio and video and maybe dump the 5.1 or AC3 audio. I haven't looked at every file I've played, but a couple that would choke on my Win7 Asus netbook, I re-encoded with Handbrake. They still look and sound great.
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Given that MKVs can only play in software mode currently
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I understood that that's the whole point the OP was trying to make: he wishes that someone makes a video player application that can handle MKVs via the hardware decoder. It's not a bad thing to wish for, either; it would provide better performance and hardware playback uses less battery, too.
The question remains: is it possible? As far as I know, the chip itself doesn't get relayed anything more than the actual video stream inside the file, regardless of the container, and thus an app should be able to do exactly that. But since I don't know anything about Android internals are applications given any such access?
My N900 phone uses regular GStreamer stack and thus you can demux anything you want and supply the video stream to the hardware decoder. As long as it's H.264 normal profile and not too high a resolution it'll play, regardless of the originating container.
There's nothing wrong with wishing, but until it happens, we have to use what we've got. For HC, for now that means MP4 for native support.
3.1 thus far has been worse than 2.x insofar as multimedia, probably because vendors have had 2.x for much longer, and were able to add enhanced support. A good case in point is the Samsung GalTab 7 vs the GalTab 10.1. The 7, released last year, can play MKV. The new 10.1 can't. Ditto for all the "my old phone can play MKV, why can't my tablet" complaints. It is what it is.
From all indications, HC was and is a rush job. It had to be pushed out the door because of competition from the iPad. I think the prospective buyer should understand that s/he is buying into a beta, and temper his expectations accordingly. Android has high potential, but now isn't then.
I've written a script that does fast remux/convert to MP4. A straight remux takes a few minutes, and it can process batch. It's a more productive route than wishing for a HW-accel player to come along.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
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It's a more productive route than wishing for a HW-accel player to come along.
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I suppose that's a matter of viewpoint.
I took a look at the MediaPlayer class in Google's APIs and it seems to me that it should be fairly straightforward to demux the MKV file in software on-the-fly, create named pipe with mkfifo and feed the MediaPlayer class the raw video stream via that. Just throw a simple GUI on top of that and you have a rudimentary video player capable of playing MKV files with hardware accelerated video.
I'll try it out once I receive my tablet, was planning to learn Android programming anyways.
PS. Bah, doesn't allow me to post links yet :/
Does the native player of Xoom also plays 1080p video files
ie. mp4, avi, wmv, etc.
If not, does other players like vplayer, mobo could make this possible?
I doubt as Motorola Web and Wikipedia say the Xoom can play
"Up to 720p video" but sure it's not quite enough as long as HDMI it to a 32" TV.
Therefore is it possible for Xoom playing 1080p video smoothly?
Thank You. And I'm from Hong Kong (although there's nothing to do with the question )
it can play 1080p but video stutter.
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true. 1080p will trouble as much to bill clinton.
you can convert a 1080p mkv to mp4 format and it will play with no issues. or converting, i suggest DVDCatalyst.
See, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 states 1080p video playback
I wonder is there any meaning the video playback ability of GT10.1
has overpower to Xoom?
BTW I personally hate converting.
My ideal Tab is a replacement for netbook,
which with proper software and codec
almost nothing it won't play.
So if there's something tablet is incapable of
please let me know.
Thanks for all your replies, they really make a difference.
All the tegra 2 tablets are similar software wise.
The 10.1 won't play videos any better than the xoom. Return your android tablet if you expect it to replace windows.
I've surveyed many of the players on the Android market yesterday,
and most won't play a 720p x264 Mkv with ac3.
Best is qqplayer. Next best is vplayer, but really it can't either,
So only qqplayer. If anyone knows better, please speak up.
Otherwise, use plex it is the best transcoding streaming player around..
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Galaxy Tab 10.1 can play 1080 video formats?
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Using Moboplayer (from market) with Tiamat 2.2, 1080p video will just about play, but its not ideal.
720p is fine.
I only play file resolutions up to 720p on the Xoom because of the native resolution. I use Mobo player for my .avi and DVD Catalyst converted .mp4 files but if I am in a rush and have a high bit rate 720p .mkv file, the Dice player plays everything I throw at it. I have monitored my usage of both and I really mainly use Mobo. Dice comes in handy when I just don't want to wait for a conversion because I am heading out on short notice and is the only player I have found to play high bit rate 720p .mkv x.264 files. I prefer converting because I can give the video files a color boost in DVD Catalyst since videos seem to lose their punch on the Xoom screen.
Dice player plays 720p no prob
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bluenote73 said:
I've surveyed many of the players on the Android market yesterday,
and most won't play a 720p x264 Mkv with ac3.
Best is qqplayer. Next best is vplayer, but really it can't either,
So only qqplayer. If anyone knows better, please speak up.
Otherwise, use plex it is the best transcoding streaming player around..
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I've had good results with BSPlayer.
One thing is beyond my understanding.
My past Samsung infuse with 1.2ghz single core processor was able to play 1080p itunes trailers but xoom tablet struggles.
Also Xoom has native support for .mp4 files and .mov/.mkv/.avi requires extra treatment whether extra player or software decoding.
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on a general note (covers most mobiles and tablets and/or android os)
why companies release crippled products to market?
The end user is left to work out what is working and what is not.
Xoom is upper range product and it is not acceptable that it can't play 1080p files smoothly.
rohit3192 said:
One thing is beyond my understanding.
My past Samsung infuse with 1.2ghz single core processor was able to play 1080p itunes trailers but xoom tablet struggles.
Also Xoom has native support for .mp4 files and .mov/.mkv/.avi requires extra treatment whether extra player or software decoding.
.........................
on a general note (covers most mobiles and tablets and/or android os)
why companies release crippled products to market?
The end user is left to work out what is working and what is not.
Xoom is upper range product and it is not acceptable that it can't play 1080p files smoothly.
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The Xoom does play 1080p but how well depends on the codec and player. As for why you would want to play 1080p videos on a 720p screen, I just can't comprehend. It will not look better because the screen resolution is lower than 1080p. If you played 1080p on any screen lower than 1920x1080 pixels you will not be getting the benefit of the 1080p resolution.
Isun said:
The Xoom does play 1080p but how well depends on the codec and player. As for why you would want to play 1080p videos on a 720p screen, I just can't comprehend. It will not look better because the screen resolution is lower than 1080p. If you played 1080p on any screen lower than 1920x1080 pixels you will not be getting the benefit of the 1080p resolution.
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And the Downscaling? Don't have it?
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And the Downscaling? Don't have it?
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If you must keep the resolution at 1080p then the best thing for stutter free playback is at least convert into an .mp4 which DVD Catalyst does but again, there will not be noticeable quality increase over a 720p. If I had a 1080p .mkv that I wanted to play on the Xoom, that would be one of the times when I would prefer convert or downsize but for everything else including 720p .mkv, we no longer need to convert.
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If you must keep the resolution at 1080p then the best thing for stutter free playback is at least convert into an .mp4 which DVD Catalyst does but again, there will not be noticeable quality increase over a 720p. If I had a 1080p .mkv that I wanted to play on the Xoom, that would be one of the times when I would prefer convert or downsize but for everything else including 720p .mkv, we no longer need to convert.
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From my perspective you are badly missing the point - what use is a tablet that can play videos if you have to carry around a pc to convert them first. Its a pain in the butt.
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I use Dice Player to play all my video. It is easily the best HD movie player out there and plays high profile 720p but I haven't tried 1080p. As I don't have a 1080p TV, there's no need. Check out the Dice Player trial.
bluenote73 said:
From my perspective you are badly missing the point - what use is a tablet that can play videos if you have to carry around a pc to convert them first. Its a pain in the butt.
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Thats just the thing though, we need to be realistic. You don't have to convert any videos other than high bit rate 1080p which even if you were only using a desktop PC you would need to meet a system requirement to play. Tablets like these are new. Could you imagine a few years ago having a 1Ghz laptop with 1GB of RAM and being pissed it wont play my 1080p movie in 3D? The Xoom is one of the first of it's kind and was never designed to play high bit rate 1080p and you find that a bother. It's like buying an Ipod 8 yrs ago then saying what good is this if all my CD's wont play on it. You had to rip & convert everything or buy the file which was still then converted. The screen is 720p. Most shows on T.V. are 720p or upscaled 720p (1080i). Where are you getting 1080p videos from, Blu Ray and digital copies which all need to be 'converted' in order to become a portable file on any system unless you have a disc player or made a 20GB image rip. Its not a pain in the butt to have to only convert one file type. My laptop is very powerful but cant play movies in 3D yet my T.V. can, should I be upset? I should add, Dice player is still the way to go to play all files with no conversion unless you want to play high bit rate 1080p on a screen not designed for it.