Hello!
I have been having a small issue with the touchscreen. This all started when I noticed I could type faster on my iPod touch than I can on my Incredible (no, not another Apple fanboy lol). So I started to look into what was causing this. Quite quickly I noticed that some keyboard presses did not register, but I saw the icon pop up (to show which key I was pressing)! This only happened if I typed fast... so then I started to look deeper into why the icon popped up but it didn't type the key. I figured out that if you touch two points too quickly, the screen registers it as a "drag" event. As a side note, I've been using Smart Keyboard Pro for it's multitouch capability. I've tested this by tapping twice quickly in Swype, and sure enough, it drew a line between two keys.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
Thanks,
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I made a video to demonstrate what I'm talking about!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsln2yas1p0
Someone reply? >.<
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it has nothing to do with multitouch. do the same thing but hold a finger on a and a finger on l at the same time, then let go of a and the same thing happens. you're just touching it fast enough that that's how it's registering. it's not the screen, it's the apps. swype isn't multitouch so that's what happens when you try.
it has nothing to do with multitouch. do the same thing but hold a finger on a and a finger on l at the same time, then let go of a and the same thing happens. you're just touching it fast enough that that's how it's registering. it's not the screen, it's the apps. swype isn't multitouch so that's what happens when you try.
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...I didn't say it had to do with multitouch? It is a global problem, not just apparent in some apps. This seems to be a bug in how the phone handles two points being touched too quickly. This should not happen.
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Sometimes the touch screen is WAY off and only restart is fixing it. Noticed this 2 times already.....
I've noticed this too. I was using the browser, and my screen presses were registering as all sorts of random things (like pressing the middle of the screen would press the zoom button). Restarting the browser seemed to fix it.
Add it to the nexus one issue list.
Postal76 said:
I've noticed this too. I was using the browser, and my screen presses were registering as all sorts of random things (like pressing the middle of the screen would press the zoom button). Restarting the browser seemed to fix it.
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that's from a lack of multitouch. your hand is probably just barely touching the lower corner of the glass. when you press again in the middle, it registers on the softkeys. it is one of the things I *HATE* about this phone. I always seem to be touching the screen on the very edge. you almost cant use it with just one hand.
I find that I do that with my HTC Magic sometimes as well, the 'webbing' between my thumb and index finger sometimes touches the corner of the screen and brings up the 'app menu' in my left hand, or the 'add widget' menu in my right hand (sense ui). Just another general thing about touch screens and their placement
the four touch buttons arent that accurate. didnt have this problem on the droid. i rarely miss it there but on the nexus is becoming 50/50 chance of it not registering.
Lol how are you guys holding the phone, i always use it one handed and havent expirienced this, i guess everyones different.
bradsh1 said:
that's from a lack of multitouch. your hand is probably just barely touching the lower corner of the glass. when you press again in the middle, it registers on the softkeys. it is one of the things I *HATE* about this phone. I always seem to be touching the screen on the very edge. you almost cant use it with just one hand.
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This not necessarily a problem with this phone in particular. It is a phenonema that happens on all capacitive touch screens (that do not have multitouch). I work with them all the time (much larger scale) and the slightest touch on a border results in what appear to be calibration issues.
Multi touch takes into account for this, non multitouch does not.
This has happened to me also. Same exact thing, in the browser, the touch was way off, really way off. I was pressing the middle and the zoom button pressed. It was on the table so I know my other hand didn't touch it. It was also vibrating sometimes when I pressed the middle of it. Restarting seems to have fixed it for now.
happened to me in SMS and browser and the only fix was restart the phone.....so its not me accidentally touching the screen in another point.
ps. its so bad that i couldnt even use touch screen to power off the phone. i had to use track ball. (now i know why its there )
I've had this problem as well as other with touch screen. Sometimes I will hit an icon on the main screen and it will jump screens. When I'm in the menu's i hit one of the options and it goes to the one underneath it. I'm CLEARLY hitting the option I want and not the one below so it is infact a hardware problem in my case. I will be in the browser and hit a button and it will exit out of the browser, very annoying! Mine is unlocked but I wrote HTC so lets see what they say.
its a known prob with this phone, ppl are complaining all over Google forum, its very annoying, when it happens it doesn't just happen in the browser, also in text message n home screen ect...
jamesyb0i said:
I find that I do that with my HTC Magic sometimes as well, the 'webbing' between my thumb and index finger sometimes touches the corner of the screen and brings up the 'app menu' in my left hand, or the 'add widget' menu in my right hand (sense ui). Just another general thing about touch screens and their placement
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Webbed fingers are gross.
I have now experienced this definitively once. It happened while using the dolphin browser. I wiped the screen off, set it on a table, poked with only one finger, and could not for the life of me get the software keyboard to click on the correct button. Just wouldn't happen. Had to restart the phone to fix it. But it's only happened once since I got the thing on launch day.
^ same thing for me. Does the OTA fix this, I have not received it yet. Wish I saw this before I created a thread, sorry.
s15274n said:
^ same thing for me. Does the OTA fix this, I have not received it yet. Wish I saw this before I created a thread, sorry.
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i dunno, but touches (especially multitouch) seems ALOT more responsive and accurate than before i did the new update... i used dolphin prior and pinch zooming seemed jittery and like the phone didnt want me to do it... now everything seems smooth as butter!
obviously this is only short term though, but hopefully this fix will also address some of the calibration issues (that i also experienced) that the N1 has been known to have...
is there a way to calibrate the screen? sometimes feel the click is not accurate.
no, these screens should not need calibration anyway. If you're talking about the click being off a little on the home screen I have that as well, but it seems to be limited to the Live Wallpapers. If its off by alot you should send it back for replacement.
when i click the dot, sometime the search box pop up. the dot is above the search botton
dot? what dot?
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dot? what dot?
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I think he means the dots at the bottom of the screen to move from one screen to another on the Home launcher. The dot(s) is/are right above the search button on the bottom right of the screen.
oh, yeah that does not sound normal. try restarting and if the issue persists you mgiht want to consider sending it in.
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
bofslime said:
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
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here u go
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=04134c63c784258e&hl=en
bofslime said:
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
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are you sure you aren't touching another part of the screen?
Sometimes the palm of my hand touches the bottom left of the screen and that will cause random touch events.
You need to touch slightly above the dot. Otherwise your finger is very close to the google search soft key.
dwang said:
are you sure you aren't touching another part of the screen?
Sometimes the palm of my hand touches the bottom left of the screen and that will cause random touch events.
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I know for fact that sometimes I DO touch other parts of the screen like with my palm, etc by accident. however there have been cases where this wasn't happening and I still have miss touch events.
Example. I was holding my phone with my fingers in landscape with my left hand, and using only the pointer finger of my right hand to touch something in the middle top of the screen, at which point the phone pulse vibrated and the quick search screen popped up.
I posted to the google link outlining the different events that I have noticed. Multitouch would fix point averaging between somewhere you're accidentally touching and where you intended to touch. This however isn't the only thing going on, as I do believe there is some random strangeness occurring. I never had any such issues with my G1.
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I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
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it happens to me,too, i thought it is caused by my palm touched the edge of the screen when i clicked using finger, but it is not. when i restart the phone, it,s gone.
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I think he means the dots at the bottom of the screen to move from one screen to another on the Home launcher. The dot(s) is/are right above the search button on the bottom right of the screen.
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yes. that's the dot.
I read from another reviewer, he said the sensor of the soft key is located a little above the icon for the key. this may cause the problem.
cuitao said:
yes. that's the dot.
I read from another reviewer, he said the sensor of the soft key is located a little above the icon for the key. this may cause the problem.
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This messes up pretty much everyone I hand my phone to look at/play with. Its fine if you're aware, but it does show a sign of less refinement in a device that would have been nearly 100% free of hardware design flaws.
I feel the same way, especially with the soft-buttons and the "p" key in portrait mode. Last night after walking a bit outside my key-presses were atleast an inch off.....I attributed that to my fingers being a little staticky.
Othertimes my fingers just never work on the screen for a few seconds, rubbing my fingers together fixes this problem.
Something to do with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing I guess
I find that sometimes my fingers wrap around the phone and just touch the front edge of the screen while holding it, causing random key presses. I guess I'm still used to holding the wider and less sensitive Touch HD.
Whenever I try to start/respond to a sms, it takes about 10 tries of me tapping on the textbox at the bottom of the screen for it to recognize I'm tapping it and to make the keyboard come up.
My buddy, who will use my phone, can do it almost every time though... I'm coming from an iPhone so I'm used to touchscreens. I've tried with/without my nail, using my entire THUMB, using just the tip of my thumb.
I dunno what to do... Any ideas? Thanks
I noticed that this will happen to me on occasion. In my experience with it, if I tap towards the top of the box it will work the first time, but if I tap towards the lower bottom then it doesn't work so often.
actually, this used to happen to me alot.
then I noticed that every time i was trying to touch the text box, my thumb, or another finger from my other hand, was also touching the screen.
And since the stock keyboard doesn't have a detected multi-touch input, when there are two touched, the input value is returned as null.
So, once i figured that out, i never had a problem. But, there has also been complaints about the touch screen calibration being off, so...you can never know unless you mess around
Ill give those tips a shot! Maybe adding the multi touch hack will help too...
It also helps if you don't just tap really quick, but press it instead(well not really press, but leave your thumb or finger on it for a second).
I'm sure there are weird calibration issues near the bottoms of our screens. When I first got the phone, I really thought it was broken or there was a huge bug trying to get the virtual keyboard to come up while writing SMSes. Like david said, try touching a little higher than where the text box is to bring up the VK. Usually, I aim at the top border of the box. Now I rarely have to touch more than once to bring it up, but it's still an issue that should be addressed by HTC (or maybe Google).
heroskyy said:
actually, this used to happen to me alot.
then I noticed that every time i was trying to touch the text box, my thumb, or another finger from my other hand, was also touching the screen.
And since the stock keyboard doesn't have a detected multi-touch input, when there are two touched, the input value is returned as null.
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This is exactly what I determined. My keyboard pops up every time when press near the top of the input box.
Is this a hardware issue - or something a future update is able to correct?
You can long-press the "Menu" softkey to open the keyboard at (almost) any time.
When this happens to me i just push in the trackball and the keyboard pops up.
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When this happens to me i just push in the trackball and the keyboard pops up.
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I also noticed if you get a lot of texts or have a lot of texts the problem gets worse.
Lo,
not sure if it's just me and coming from my Hero, but I do have issues at times with the screen getting to recognise my finger presses. This can be in games to apps; I generally find that a firm press works but surely this should be needed.
Can anyone else confirm whether they have the same or whether mines gone a bit dodgy?
Tia
pinn___________ said:
Lo,
not sure if it's just me and coming from my Hero, but I do have issues at times with the screen getting to recognise my finger presses. This can be in games to apps; I generally find that a firm press works but surely this should be needed.
Can anyone else confirm whether they have the same or whether mines gone a bit dodgy?
Tia
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mine responds verry good, i dont actually have to touch the screen, holding my finger above it also works (so yeah its damn sensitive)
jamieeeee said:
mine responds verry good, i dont actually have to touch the screen, holding my finger above it also works (so yeah its damn sensitive)
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same for me
Mine started to feel less sensitive and on web sites I find it had clicking on curtain parts of the page for example I click my ebay tab but have to give a few tries as it thinks I clicked the tabs either side
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vimto25 said:
Mine started to feel less sensitive and on web sites I find it had clicking on curtain parts of the page for example I click my ebay tab but have to give a few tries as it thinks I clicked the tabs either side
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Yeah,,i'm the same when trying to select tabs on dolphin hd. It was a pain trying to play fruit ninja too.
Mine did seem super sensitive at first too and noticed like others that if you held your finger really close,b ut not touching, the screen still recognised the touch.
I hope then this isnt something that worsens overtime - I'll wait and see.
Thanks
I'm curious about this now because at first I also noticed it would respond if my finger was very close but still above the screen. I don't know if I've gotten used to that now or if it's actually changed. There has been two software updates so it's possible they tweaked a setting. Despite not noticing the hovering touch any more the screen is still far more responsive than my Milestone.
With the last 2 updates, they did change the screen sensitivity.
Could one of you undo the updates or hard reset, and see if it is sensitive again? That way, we know it's just software and tweakable.
I can't because I do not have my phone yet. Lol... (actually that isn't funny)..
My phone has had all the updates done and I find my screen sensitivity to sensitive. But then again I have come from a Touch Pro 2 where it wasn't the best anyway.
No problems here. Search for multitouch test on the market for some objective testing. (You can also see with this app that HTC solved the weird multitouch problem that previous devices had.)
From my testing, it seems to react better to a greater surface area contact; the tip of my finger barely triggers it, but if I use the full end of my finger it seems fine.
Bit odd and annoying
Mine's *too* sensitive.
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From my testing, it seems to react better to a greater surface area contact; the tip of my finger barely triggers it, but if I use the full end of my finger it seems fine.
Bit odd and annoying
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I would call the HTC helpdesk and ask for a pick-up repairment or go back to the store and swap it for another one.
I have looked very closely into this issue and it seems that the phone registers a touch when my finger is very close to the screen. It doesn't seem like an issue, but it is. Often when I'm scrolling through youtube videos, it plays a video. This is because right before I touch the screen and want to drag it, it actually selects one of the videos first. This is really annoying. It even happens when typing. I get the same letter twice because it first detects the touch when my finger is near, and then I press it, which gives 2 touches. Anyone else with this problem? Is there a way to turn this ''feature'' off?
Can't say I've seen this happening and even when slowly getting closer, I only type a letter with Swiftkey when I actually hit the glass. Maybe this thread can help? forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/how-to-increase-touch-sensitivity-t3443052
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Can't say I've seen this happening and even when slowly getting closer, I only type a letter with Swiftkey when I actually hit the glass. Maybe this thread can help? forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/how-to-increase-touch-sensitivity-t3443052
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I tried this but this is not the problem as I'm not even touching the glass yet the phone registers it (I have turned on "Show touch movement" in dev options). I looked very closely with my eye to really assure I'm not actually touching it. It happens when my finger is really close to the glass. Really strange. Am I the only one having this happen?
Do you have glove mode on ?
djona12 said:
Do you have glove mode on ?
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You are a hero. This was the problem. I thought having it constantly on wouldn't be a big deal and it would actually be useful if I happen to wear gloves. Thank you very much for solving this issue.
r4k3lk said:
You are a hero. This was the problem. I thought having it constantly on wouldn't be a big deal and it would actually be useful if I happen to wear gloves. Thank you very much for solving this issue.
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No problem, it's a common mistake