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Hi,
I'm really tired of debranding my MDA pro after a hard-reset and I would like to do the following:
-delete everything on my device (use the extended rom unlocker to unlock)
- install a "fresh" WM5
- configure the system
- create a complete backup of the system like the Norton-Ghost in the pc-world
Is that possible, and if so, how?
Where can I get a clean version of WM5?
Has anyone of you already done so?
How can I create a complete backup of the system?
I know that are a lot of questions and I'm thankful for every hint
C ya,
Elias
Shame on T-Mobile for the annoying branding!!!
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eli_d said:
Where can I get a clean version of WM5?
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I believe you can achieve this from the provided ROM itself by unlocking then deleting the ExtROM followed by a hard reset. You can then use other hacks from this site to delete or replace the splash screen and etc... to clean it up some more.
surely if you delete the extended rom and then do a hard reset the system wont work as youll be missing the majority of the installation, there are Cooked ROMS on the FTP site which people have created which I guess you can try at your own risk. I tried to remove all of the tmobile branding but found that they'd tied in some of crucial configuration after the branding process so when I soft booted before rebranding the XDA was only half complete... I too would like a good clean install without branding, unfortunatley I have to use the tmobile rom with its gay pink colours so that I can use their blackberry client.?
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- create a complete backup of the system like the Norton-Ghost in the pc-world
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There are various programs out there that allow you to make a backup of your phone. Currently, I'm using BackupManager which generate an EXE files that you can save into your SD card such that you can restore your phone without having to reinstall the backupsoftware itself. I know that there are better software out there you can use. I think they call it phone clone or something, which uses your pc to store and clone the phone.
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... I tried to remove all of the tmobile branding but found that they'd tied in some of crucial configuration after the branding process so when I soft booted before rebranding the XDA was only half complete...
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I have relatively the same problem, that my phone doesn't support MMS. However, if you were to extract the ext rom (by any means) to get the CAB files within, you can choose which to install or not. I think you pretty much need to guess what each of them means.
Thank you for your answers
I think I'm gonna try the backup-manager.
Now I wll start another post "Avoid T-mobile branding by install Jasjar or Dopod-ROM?"
Hi all,
I am a noob and I am not too sure if i am deleting stock programs and apps that came with the att tilt 2. Some apps and programs cant be found under "remove programs."
For example, if i want to delete a program, can I just go into the file explorer and find the folder and just delete it from there? Will that completely delete that program?
Also, when i try to delete the "Opera 9" folder, it says "_home.exe is a system file, deleting it will cause some programs to not run properly." Can I still delete it anyways?
I basically want to know if I can just find the folders of the pre-installed programs and apps that i dont want and just delete it from there. Will that completely erase it from my phone?
Thanks in advance for help.
Nausicaaa
anyone? any inputs would be greatly appreciated.
thank you all
I don't know about Opera (are you trying to upgrade to 9.7 or 10 Beta?), but I deleted many of the ATT bloatware programs exactly as you described. No issues at all. You will also want to go to Windows>Start Menu>Programs and delete the shortcuts there, to remove them from the Start Menu screen.
You will get lots of storage back, and the programs will stay removed unless you hard reset.
Hey thanks for the reply. Opera 9 came pre-installed with the tilt 2 and i downloaded opera 10. So i dont to delete opera 9. I went to file explorer and found its folder and try to delete it. But it says "_home.exe is a system file and deleting it will cause some programs to not work properly"
So im not too sure should i proceed and delete it or should i not? I think _home.exe is a file or something in the opera 9 folder. Umm not too sure what to do.
Nausicaaa
can anyone help??
thanks
if you dont want the ATT bloatware, why dont you just flash a clean ATT rom? (as long as you want to keep the ATT look)
Hi ctbear,
Sorry I am completely new to the WM and not too sure about alot of things. I have been reading on these forums about hard spl and flashing my phone. However, I am still kind of scared to do it, im scared that will screw up and mess up my phone. I do have a couple of questions to your reply.
1. where can I find a clean ATT rom?
2. what exactly is a clean ATT rom? did someone on these forums made the rom or is it a official release by ATT?
Thank you
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Hi ctbear,
Sorry I am completely new to the WM and not too sure about alot of things. I have been reading on these forums about hard spl and flashing my phone. However, I am still kind of scared to do it, im scared that will screw up and mess up my phone. I do have a couple of questions to your reply.
1. where can I find a clean ATT rom?
2. what exactly is a clean ATT rom? did someone on these forums made the rom or is it a official release by ATT?
Thank you
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1. You can find a clean rom in the rom thread.
2. ATT will never release a Clean rom. It has to be made by one of the great rom cooks here on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=238757&d=1255989574
Tms Uninstaller: Will allow you to delete programs that don't show up in the normal remove programs. Direct download in link. (freeware) ~ Thanks Senax
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if you dont want the ATT bloatware, why dont you just flash a clean ATT rom? (as long as you want to keep the ATT look)
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Is there a flashable version of the stock AT&T rom or are you referring to eras2r's ROM? His is probably closest to the stock rom but it isn't a straight dump from a stock device is it? I've been hoping someone would be able to get the stock rom dumped so we could flash it back. Maybe someone will get one for Christmas! I know the old trick of resetting on the first boot just before the bloatware installer ran was a way to cut back on some of the stuff but it wasn't 100%.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=238757&d=1255989574
Tms Uninstaller: Will allow you to delete programs that don't show up in the normal remove programs. Direct download in link. (freeware) ~ Thanks Senax
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Tried this.. I assumed it was going to show all the loaded programs.. all it shows is TMS uninstaller, CleanRAM which I installed and Adobe Flashlight. Is everything else going to need to be deleted by going thru the file explorer?
You can't delete files in ROM. Shortcuts for programs that came pre-installed can be deleted, but the actual program remains. Still, deleting shortcuts yields very little gain in space as they are small files. It does help clean up the Start menu, though. The only way to get rid of the bloatware is to flash a cooked ROM with those items already removed.
So I flashed Energy ROM not too long ago and I had to back up a number of applications on my phone to my SD card before I did it. Knowing that I might flash newer ROMs as they come along, I figured that I might as well keep everything on my SD card permanently. The only problem with this is that WM doesn't know it's installed. That is to say that whenever I update an application, the device treats it like a new installation and doesn't ask me if I want to uninstall the old version first. Secondly, certain applications (like most of Astraware's games) don't appear to be happy opening unless they're installed properly (I assume it's expecting certain registry keys to be there).
So what have most of the ROM flashers on this forum done to make sure all of their applications are working right immediately after a new flash?
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So I flashed Energy ROM not too long ago and I had to back up a number of applications on my phone to my SD card before I did it. Knowing that I might flash newer ROMs as they come along, I figured that I might as well keep everything on my SD card permanently. The only problem with this is that WM doesn't know it's installed. That is to say that whenever I update an application, the device treats it like a new installation and doesn't ask me if I want to uninstall the old version first. Secondly, certain applications (like most of Astraware's games) don't appear to be happy opening unless they're installed properly (I assume it's expecting certain registry keys to be there).
So what have most of the ROM flashers on this forum done to make sure all of their applications are working right immediately after a new flash?
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If you flash a ROM, you have to reinstall all the applications. Some of the ROMS will automatically install your cab files if you set it up. WM has to update the registry for each program, and the details may be different for each ROM, and for each time a particular ROM changes versions. So, yes, you ARE doing a new install.
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If you flash a ROM, you have to reinstall all the applications. Some of the ROMS will automatically install your cab files if you set it up. WM has to update the registry for each program, and the details may be different for each ROM, and for each time a particular ROM changes versions. So, yes, you ARE doing a new install.
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But really isn't it silly to do all of that work?
Surely there is something you can change in Windows Mobile that will tell it a specific application is installed on the device. For the registry keys, I can simply write a Mortscript that adds and updates the keys for all of the applications I typically want on the device. If I add an application, I just add its keys to the script. Ideally, I'd just like to run this script every time I flash a new ROM and have all of the dependencies set up automatically. I'm not sure, however, what I need to edit in order to make the operating system thing an application is installed (basically it appears on the "Remove Applications" list)
Yuu need something like this then [UC]XDA_UC Autoconfiguration User To User Thread[23-06-2009]
You should take note that I'm not sure if that's the latest version. But if you throw all your cabs in the XDA_UC folder and follow the instructions of the thread there you'll have it installing ALL your aps automatically when you flash a new rom
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Yuu need something like this then [UC]XDA_UC Autoconfiguration User To User Thread[23-06-2009]
You should take note that I'm not sure if that's the latest version. But if you throw all your cabs in the XDA_UC folder and follow the instructions of the thread there you'll have it installing ALL your aps automatically when you flash a new rom
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I believe that the ROM has to support this feature. So far as I know my ROM (NRG) does not, for example. But if it is supported it is great.
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But really isn't it silly to do all of that work?
Surely there is something you can change in Windows Mobile that will tell it a specific application is installed on the device. For the registry keys, I can simply write a Mortscript that adds and updates the keys for all of the applications I typically want on the device. If I add an application, I just add its keys to the script. Ideally, I'd just like to run this script every time I flash a new ROM and have all of the dependencies set up automatically. I'm not sure, however, what I need to edit in order to make the operating system thing an application is installed (basically it appears on the "Remove Applications" list)
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Well, I actually don't plan to be changing ROMs all that often. So far the latest NRG ROM is working well for me.
Yes, it is a lot of work, but I have all my .cab files in a single directory. So installing them is not that hard. My experience is that this method (or one of the auto install methods) provides the highest possibility of a stable WM environment.
I believe that you could probably create a script to put in the registry entries, but what if the ROM version has changed locations in the registry? Anyway, if you DO develop such a script, be sure and post the results on the forums!
the latest NRG roms do support this.
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the latest NRG roms do support this.
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Ah, good to know, maybe I'll give it a try. Although I actually prefer to watch each step...
Sashimihis?
Have you tried this? Sashimi
Youtube Demo
edit: Sorry for the wrong name in the title, but it won't let me edit that...(my keyboard went nuts..)
-Sblindheim
I am having problems installing cabs on my new HD2 with T-mobile. About 90% of the ones I try just say uninstallable after I save them. I tried to download the BsB tweak cab and same thing. I tried to download .NetCF 3.5 and it won't install either. Can anyone give me an idea, and also is there a place on my phone I can find out what .NetCF I'm running? Do the HD2's already have 3.5 on them? I've done a search on here to try and find answers but nothing yet.
Try a Soft Reset, see if that helps...if not Hard Reset
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Try a Soft Reset, see if that helps...if not Hard Reset
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Hold on, not just yet on the hard-reset...
amstaff, what exactly happens when you try to install CF3.5? Are you trying it from a cab or a desktop installer?
sirphunkee- I'm trying it from a cab. .NetCF keeps saying this is a previous version, that's why I was wondering if I have 3.5 already. I don't know where to look and see. I tried to download a cab off modaco that says which version is running but I can't install that cab. It's one that just says uninstallable.
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sirphunkee- I'm trying it from a cab. .NetCF keeps saying this is a previous version, that's why I was wondering if I have 3.5 already. I don't know where to look and see. I tried to download a cab off modaco that says which version is running but I can't install that cab. It's one that just says uninstallable.
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Yeah you know what, I thought I had to put 3.5 on here when I first got it, but I remember now that it was never needed so I assumed it was already on here.
Whatever is causing your problem, I don't think it's CF3.5, because I never put it on and I have BsB Tweak running just fine, and I've never had installation issues like that. So yeah, I think a hard-reset might be a good place to start, to try to get whatever is interefering with your installs cleared up.
I tried a hard reset and still the same problems. Things download I just can't install most of them. I need some help.
amstaff72 said:
I tried a hard reset and still the same problems. Things download I just can't install most of them. I need some help.
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Are you saving them to the SD card and running them from there? If so, try one running on the phone instead...just to rule out any issue with the card.
I tried that too. It still wont let me install. Is there some safety thing or something I need to disable? I remember in Vista microsoft made it impossible to delete and download some files, did they do something like that on winmo 6.5? It was like you had to have the administrator rights or something. I don't know what's going on, but customizing a windows phone is one of it"s best attributes, I can't even install any games. I need some help, please!
man...this is a chin scratcher never heard of any thing like this before. maybe it has something to do with the certificates. have you tried installing a free app from the marketplace that came on the phone. im curious if that would work.where are you getting the cabs you are trying to install. try something from freeware pocket pc.net
Yeah, the only apps that should potentially give you issues for insufficient rights when installing are homebrewed ones like those found here...but as long as you have sdkcerts installed even those shouldn't do that. But it sounds like the issue here goes beyond that because you're trying to install things that shouldn't need that anyway
NetCF 3.5
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sirphunkee- I'm trying it from a cab. .NetCF keeps saying this is a previous version, that's why I was wondering if I have 3.5 already. I don't know where to look and see. I tried to download a cab off modaco that says which version is running but I can't install that cab. It's one that just says uninstallable.
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T-Mobile HD2 (US) already has NetCF 3.5 installed.
I have tried cabs from here and from places like pocketpc.net and so many won't install. There are some that do but like I said about 90% don't. What is the sdkcerts or whatever, I don't think I have that do I need it to install some cabs? Please someone give me some Ideas. Thanks for letting me know about NetCF 3.5 I was wondering about that. But again need some ideas for the cabs. Thanks for the help and ideas so far.
I just tried to download and install the sdk certs cab. It downloaded and installed but I still can't install most cabs. I tried BsB tweaks again and it still says "BsB Tweaks uninstallable". Do I need to install the sdk certs somewhere special or can I just install it like normal?
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I just tried to download and install the sdk certs cab. It downloaded and installed but I still can't install most cabs. I tried BsB tweaks again and it still says "BsB Tweaks uninstallable". Do I need to install the sdk certs somewhere special or can I just install it like normal?
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You just install it like normal, it sounds like it went on fine for you....so the problem has to be somewhere else, but I'm really still at a loss on this one. I don't know what other cabs/apps you're trying, but I know BsB installed on mine without a hitch.
Let me ask you this....when you're using file explorer to navigate to a cab you want to install, do you do it in landscape mode? And then, as soon as you click the cab, you filp to portrait? I just remembered that whenever I did that, it killed the install, and I would need to click the cab to run it while in portrait mode. Just a thought.
Is there a place I need to check or something that maybe makes me administrator that could be guest or something right now?
sirphunkee-when I download and install cabs I click the link, it sends me to the save screen, I most of the time save to my card and then install...but I have tried to save to the hard drive and install but it doesn't seem to matter which way I do it. When I save and install, I just leave the phone in the regular position, I don't turn it on its side. Some of the apps I've tried to install as cabs that didn't work are grooveshark for 6.5 from pocketpc.net, BsB Tweaks from here, there was a couple of others I just tried to see if they would work from 1800pocketpc and they didn't work either. Only a few are installing without any problem. Thanks for your help sirphunkee, I appreciate it.
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
i don't think it is possible to back-up your current rom n settings.
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help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
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Check the Energy ROM thread. There is some talk of it in post #5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
i did it with my o2 rom just to see how to do it, but in all honesty i won't be doing it again. No point when the rom is available to download, and it doesnt save settings anyway. Ive posted teh how-to just because you asked about 'dumping the rom' so it will no doubt get hits from epople wanting to know how, and not just people like you wanting to backup, not dump.
dump the .raw partitions, reading step one in THIS first post will help.
Then set up ervius visual kitchen and use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
BUT, it wont save your rom as it is now, with all your settings and such, it will only dump the rom as it was when you first ran the phone.
Far easier to just download the stock rom from somewhere.
Plus the rom you create even though it is stock will still be seen as a cooked rom by teh phone, so you would need hspl installed to flash it.
So, you need to look more into backup software, like sprite backup, PIm backup, or sashimi/makisu, or the like.
thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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Yea, i know what you mean.
I found a cooked rom that i liked, and the chef also offered the kitchen with it. (which means i run the kitchen, press 'build' and fifteen minutes later the rom is created, ready to flash.)
Then, knowing i have a rom that i already like, i can start to make small adjustments. Progs that i normally have to reinstal every time i have converted to cookable packages, various registry tweaks that i used to instal from cab every time i have now cooked in.
A great way to get an easy intro into cooking, but because it's already built you aren't starting from a stock rom, facing weeks of tweaks. Instead i know i already like the rom, and i can slowly apply extra tweaks as i learn.
Look out for rom threads who offer 'comes with kitchen'.
ChuckyROM is the one that comes to mind, but there are others too.
I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
My rom is down to around 145MB. (Stock is around 200MB+).
Best of all, i cooked in 'remotetracker', so if my phone gets stolen/lost, , even a hard reset wont stop it being trackable.
Fun stuff, if you dont mind spending a few hours at a time cooking/flashing/re-cooking/flashing/re-re-cooking, , , hehe
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I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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well its not that simple. when a chef cooks the rom, it is usually protected, so you cant just dump a cooked rom. Thats why you have to get a pre built kitchen for that rom.
Sadly there is no simple step by step for all this.
THIS thread is for OSKitchen, which is pretty good, and fairly straightforward.
I suggest you just get a kitchen, dump a stock rom into it, and just have a look around it for a while first, so you get the idea of what you are facing.
Follow posts 1 - 4 and that should give you an evenings tinkering to get started.
Or there is ervius' visual kitchen, which isn't quite so straight forward, but works really well for me.
Reading HERE and HERE and HERE
and lots of reading in 'Chef Central'
However, to get immediate results, i found it far better to start with a pre built kitchen.
HERE is the one i first started to tinker with.
I gave up on kitchens a half dozen times in the past months, it just seems so overwhelming, which is why a ready made rom i could make minor tweaks to came in so handy.
thanks allot, I'm going to get to it right away. I'll post if I hit a wall.
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
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how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
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convert it to an ext package, which will generate a folder with various files/subfiles, one of which is a reg file, edit that, add your registry entries (extracted from your currently running phone, using ceregistry editor ((if you dont already have them, immediately you finish reading this go get wincecab manager, ceregistry editor, and look up CAB_Converter too.)))
Use cab converter to change the cab into an ext.
as always, the best advice is to read everything, then read it again, hehe.
A working example.
connect your phone to usb, open ceregistry editor, click connect, browse to HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home There are 80 or so numbered folders, Thats for the quicklinks.
In the tree view on the left, right click the folder Home and choose 'export'. A file save dialog will open, call it something like home, OK. You should get something like '81 keys exported'
Now, browse to the folder where the converted cookies EXT is, find the file 'app.reg'. Double click to open it in ceregistry editor, you will see a similar registry view as you saw on the phone, except with loads less entries. Find HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home, select the home folder, hit delete, confirm, its now gone.
Go to top of ceregistry editor - hit Edit - Import registry keys from file.
Now, by default it will be looking for .reg files, but we exported ours as .cereg, so change the filetype dropdown to 'all files'.
Find your 'home.cereg' file we exported, click it, you will get a 'sucessfully imported,....blahblah', hit save, and now, when you cook the rom, your quicklinks will already be there as soon as the phone first boots.
Use SPB backup
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
fhaines said:
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
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i just got me the spb backup, and is working great for me. thanks.
The simple solution here is SPB Backup...
EDIT: oops, jumped the gun. was already suggested. xD
glad you got it figured out
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use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
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This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
ohiosux said:
This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
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sure you want to bother? it wont save your settings as they are now, so you are essentially dumping the stock rom as it was when you got the phone (Assuming you're running a stock rom that is, if its a cooked rom it probably wont convert anyway)
All (most) of teh stock roms are available to download, so its an accademic task only, , , ,
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sure you want to bother? its an accademic task only, , , ,
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Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
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Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
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hehe, well, ive only done it once, so you know as much as me, , get ervius vis kitchen (im sure other kitchens can do it too, just i use evk) click extra buttons, top left button is raws2nbh, follow the prompts.
You dont need to do this to cook, you know that? the kitchen will import a downloaded stock nbh, no need for the dump to get a kutchen working.