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http://droidheaven.com/2009/12/12/g1-and-mytouch-3g-to-get-2-5-update-in-january/
just when i thought my g1 was getting out dated and they where going to stop giving us updates.
Even though our Devs are hard at work to get 2.0 and 2.1 working, and for the most part they are very quick and reliable but dont have a working camera unless htc gives us camera drivers we are screwed. but i came across this today and i now have hope. i was going to buy a nexus next month but now that its confirmed that we are getting a 2.5 OTA update i see no need in upgrading just wait until Cyanogen Drizzy or JAC (where are you MLIGN???)get a hold of this one
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is this for real?
I don't want to sound like a sceptic, but this sounds scetchy.
let me get this straight....
their new $500 phone is only gonna have 2.1 but the 'outdated' G1 will get 2.5....
....not a hope in hell of them doing that
i will eat my hat if we have 2.5 on the G1 before january is out....
hopefully my hat will taste good...id love this to be true....but its unlikely
Well.......
According to Eugene373 they have the camera drivers, but will not release them just yet...
Only a matter of time!
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let me get this straight....
their new $500 phone is only gonna have 2.1 but the 'outdated' G1 will get 2.5....
....not a hope in hell of them doing that
i will eat my hat if we have 2.5 on the G1 before january is out....
hopefully my hat will taste good...id love this to be true....but its unlikely
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If you have the new flavored hats, you might go back for seconds. I'm sure the G1's "2.5" will be 2.0 with flash if it even comes out.
Bit offtopic but isn't flash just an application, technically a browser addon?
It wouldn't need to be in a rom, just on the android market as "Flash" or included in an update to the browser application.
If you piece all the rumors and truly confirmed info from those that get the leaks, the G1 is getting an update sometime in January/February to 2.0/2.1/2.5... something with a 2 at the front. Wow! Such shocking news "confirmed" by an un-named "source" on a site that has also "confirmed" in the past we would be getting 2.0 then 2.1 and now 2.5.
I made a Post with the exact same topic so a mod please lock it/delete it.
The g1/mytouch is not getting android 2.5 it is getting 2.0/2.0.1
They got the mytouch version working but the damn unrooted g1 just doesn't have the space for it so we have to wait so they can slim it down.
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http://droidheaven.com/2009/12/12/g1-and-mytouch-3g-to-get-2-5-update-in-january/
just when i thought my g1 was getting out dated and they where going to stop giving us updates.
Even though our Devs are hard at work to get 2.0 and 2.1 working, and for the most part they are very quick and reliable but dont have a working camera unless htc gives us camera drivers we are screwed. but i came across this today and i now have hope. i was going to buy a nexus next month but now that its confirmed that we are getting a 2.5 OTA update i see no need in upgrading just wait until Cyanogen Drizzy or JAC (where are you MLIGN???)get a hold of this one
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sounds like the cupcake rumor mill all over again...
I dont trust this one bit
2.5? What is that exactly?
Honestly, it's getting annoying to see specific releases of Android for specific phones (e.g., 2.0 for Droid, 2.1 for N1). It's almost like after 1.6, the releases started to become phone specific rather than generic.
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If you have the new flavored hats, you might go back for seconds. I'm sure the G1's "2.5" will be 2.0 with flash if it even comes out.
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Hopefully its Android 2.1 with Flash but ughh damn it I don't wanna wait! My hat is strawberry!
I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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So you guys will have a update for Mytouch 3G though?
Or will it get discontinued along with G1?
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I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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And congratulations for violating streamline policy. Better hope your coach/senior doesnt see you tossing that around. I watched LOTS of people get fired for doing that back when I was a TMO FCR.
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I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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And you won't be the first to hear of it either. I promise you, as hard as it is to believe, that HTC and TMO upper management are the first to know. Next up are leaks from devs for HTC to media. Then official confirmation from TMO to the media. Then, about a week after that, if not longer, reps are informed. Don't say otherwise, since some of us work in the business as well, likely for much longer, and have seen how this works.
Reps are always left in the dark until the very end. It is stupid, since reps deal with the public face to face and can make a selling point out of a bunch of the stuff that is kept in the dark, but it is the way it is.
2.5?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA!!! You gotta love rumors. The update coming out in January, if any update at all, will more then likely be 2.0 with or without flash. If it's that easy for people to post rumors regarding android, why doesn't someone post something regarding android 17.1 (wedding cake). It's the merge of iPhone & Android!!!! ROTF!
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And you won't be the first to hear of it either. I promise you, as hard as it is to believe, that HTC and TMO upper management are the first to know. Next up are leaks from devs for HTC to media. Then official confirmation from TMO to the media. Then, about a week after that, if not longer, reps are informed. Don't say otherwise, since some of us work in the business as well, likely for much longer, and have seen how this works.
Reps are always left in the dark until the very end. It is stupid, since reps deal with the public face to face and can make a selling point out of a bunch of the stuff that is kept in the dark, but it is the way it is.
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I agree 100%!!! I work for a cable provider, who will remain nameless, and we (reps) are always the last to know about anything. You have no idea how many times a customer called and informed me of a new process/website/service. It amazes me. The front-line associates are ALWAYS the last to know!
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I agree 100%!!! I work for a cable provider, who will remain nameless, and we (reps) are always the last to know about anything. You have no idea how many times a customer called and informed me of a new process/website/service. It amazes me. The front-line associates are ALWAYS the last to know!
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Yeah, I work for a cell phone provider, and we get a launch email about a week before the phone launches. I usually know sooner because I am one of the testers for smart phones, but I don't even get all of them, and if I am not testing it I don't know anything until that email... plus, even as a tester, I only get about a 4 week heads up, which is about 2-3 months behind the management picking our phones.
Worst of all, when we do new promos/plans we get our launch info the day before and thus have about 18 hours to read and figure out the new promos, come up with a selling strategy and figure out what sort of customer it is right for.
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Did you read the comments? "I just talked to a t-mobile rep. he said he never heard of the update and there is no documents.
But he did tell me that there is an update coming and it is coming quickly"
Since the 2.1 Leak thread is no longer sticky.....
Can we get a sticky 'status thread' for those of us stuck with the 2.1 leak so we know what is, if anything, going on or whether the devs have abandoned us?
I'd much prefer not to go haggle with the verizon wireless store, but I will if I have to. As it stands, the lack of information on this topic leaves me not sure what to do. A little input is all I ask.
I agree. Some sort of status would be nice.
there wont be any updates on the status. it will be a new thread that will all of a sudden come out and say "we have root / downgrade / whatever for those on 2.1 leak" instead of a posting in an existing thread.
so let me repeat that THERE IS NO ROOT FOR 2.1 LEAK YET.
any updates will be posted in a new thread!
you will find out when it has happened....it will be one the of the top threads.
I appreciate the response.
Can you at least tell me if someone is in fact working on it or is it just something that a dev 'may' stumble on at some point?
2.1 leak
I was just on the IRC chat yesterday and they were working on this very thing. Finding a rooted ROM was a little serendipitous and that may leave some of the 2.1 leakers feeling a little left out. Though I do not speak for any of the devs I do know that they plan on addressing this issue espcially because 2.1 official update will be out...eventually. This means that their current method of obtaining root would be obsolete. If you have another method of downgrading your phone then I would suggest using it if you are impatient like me.
So you should learn to do this thing called search.... there was a post about this very subject a day or two ago.
We, the devs, are currently working on some methods for downgrading 2.1 leaked to either 1.5 or the rooted 2.1.
We don't want a new thread about it because we are at this point just poking and prodding around on the phones hoping to find something. Most ideas we have are tried within an hour and don't work, so no need to constantly post about them.
Just please rest assured that on the irc server we are working hard to get 2.1 leak rooted or downgraded. Right now there are still a couple of us devs with the 2.1 leak so it is in our interest to get this thing worked out.
I didn't particularly want a new thread about this to keep track of either. That's why a stickied thread, maybe even locked until someone has an update, was a good idea I thought. One place, top of the list, that all us 2.1 leak users can subscribe too and know when progress is made.
What was so wrong about wanting that instead of watching the board every day, waiting for news, skimming all the titles, or searching each week to see if anything has change?
Gotta agree..
Even if it's just a place to vent, I think us early adopters of the leak deserve a place to huddle up and wonder out loud whether anyone is working on the issue or if we're just stuck..
Nobody has claimed yet to have been force at gunpoint to upgrade. We're here by our own volition..
I will agree with jcase from another thread that we can't whine much unless we're willing to help out, though.. irc.wastate.net was it?
Personally, I don't think its very beneficial for anyone to have a thread where its nothing but "ranting". There are better things to spend time looking at and/or talking about.
Rest assured that when/if a way to downgrade arises, you'll know within hours just like the root, just like the leak.
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
That actually works?
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
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let me know if it worked for you
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Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
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let me know if it worked for you
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Worked for me, cept I called 611 vs going into the store...
i just called Verizon and it worked for me they asked me for firmware version i told them 2.1 they also asked me for kernel version and software number she told its up to date i told them what issues i had getting my new phone tomorrow
All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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LOL, good job!
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I appreciate the response.
Can you at least tell me if someone is in fact working on it or is it just something that a dev 'may' stumble on at some point?
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drop by the IRC chat and you can get real time updates....though they don't want to always be asked about it , if you are there you can see all of them discussing it...trust me they are trying as alot of them have 2.1leak....
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All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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...trust me they are trying as alot of them have 2.1leak
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This seems to be a bit contradictory. :/
EDIT: I'm thinking jcase might have been trying to use sarcasm in a forum, which isn't very detectable.
well when i went into the store yesterday the tech told me that 2.1 was up to date and the 2.1 official was pushed out by htc about a week or two ago? huh? makes you wonder what they are smokin! ill just go to another store and just be mean to em about it and tell em that 2.1 is not out and i demand a new phone...
I am in atlanta and I have not yet got the OTA... Anyone else in that situation. I know i can manualy install it but after reading the main thread and being green when it comes to this phone I'd rather just get the regular update. Is it out of the norm that I havn't received it yet?
Thanks!
like julia child said..... good food takes time. just wait. wait wait.
theyve got a week to roll it out.
doesnt matter where you are, this day and age -- stay off wifi stay on the tmo network and you will get it.
Why is this in the dev section.
Why would anyone care that you don't have the update.
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Why is this in the dev section.
Why would anyone care that you don't have the update.
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Why is your name Donkey... some questions are best left unanswered...
Some people I guess don't understand what development is. I figured it was straight forward tho. I mean if u have a question it would be posted in the question section. Maybe its not as simple as I thought...
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I am in atlanta and I have not yet got the OTA... Anyone else in that situation. I know i can manualy install it but after reading the main thread and being green when it comes to this phone I'd rather just get the regular update. Is it out of the norm that I havn't received it yet?
Thanks!
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I live right outside the perimeter and I got it yesterday. But I messed up and long story short, ended up manually updating it.
Im from Atlanta.. No update yet.. woah.
downloaded to pc, but didnt install it yet. anyone else got this or know what it is?
Please clairify, where did the update come from and how big is the file? Helper as in the Motorola Help app?
Guessing by the lack of response to this, it must be unicorn like the Droid X fiasco.
Is it gingerbread?
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i turned on my laptop and about 10 minutes after it being on, a box popped up and said it had an update. it was from motorola and it was with the motohelper. size,
i dunno, its an update. as far as time, today, right before my first post.
Unicorn, no.
MotoX fiasco, i have no clue as i dont troll on that forum. guess someone else will get this sometime and enlighten us all. i am not skilled enough to tear this thing down and disect it. Im surely not gonna install it and risk some bloatware and upgrade that cant be undone. time will tell
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i turned on my laptop and about 10 minutes after it being on, a box popped up and said it had an update. it was from motorola and it was with the motohelper. size,
i dunno, its an update. as far as time, today, right before my first post.
Unicorn, no.
MotoX fiasco, i have no clue as i dont troll on that forum. guess someone else will get this sometime and enlighten us all. i am not skilled enough to tear this thing down and disect it. Im surely not gonna install it and risk some bloatware and upgrade that cant be undone. time will tell
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Just installed motohelp. No updates pushed to me. What you probably got were driver updates. I suggest looking at what version of motohelp you have prior to installing anything new.
Probably right. I never have used it.
Everyone can stand down! LOL
I just got it. It is nothing but a motohelp update for the desktop motohelp application. I managed to recreate it. I received the popup as well.
Lets close this thread.....
Agreed. Atleast I'm not crazy
EDIT 2: It appears to be up OTA so connect to wifi and check for an update!
Edit for those who just came here to figure out what was going on with 1.83:
It would appear that some sort of error occurred in which the beta of 1.83 was released OTA to a few people and to even more through the computer connect update software. This is why people were reporting that they had had success downloading the new update. However it was not available for everyone and appears to have been pulled completely. Things were made more confusing because AT&T and Motorola both appeared to make some false claims that the new update was beginning its release on April 29th. However this was a mistake and they later retracted their claims either by deleting the comment altogether or saying that they meant that the beta would be released to limited amounts of people at that time. This appears to be the cause of all of the confusion, but the bottom line is that the official update is NOT out yet, and if you want the 1.83 beta that others have gotten, check around, it isn't too hard to find!
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So I came across an AT&T answers page actually listing 4.1.83 on the site which said it was available and all I had to do was connect to wifi and check for updates to get it.
So I think "SWEET!" and try it, but still no luck
By this time I figure alright if AT&T is listing this but it's not up may as well go ahead and bother their tech support for a while and see if I get any answers
They take a LONG time to answer my question and eventually tell me that there is no 1.83 update. To which I reply "Excuse me, BS, here is exactly what YOUR site says" -copy, paste, and post link to it-
They take a long time, then completely ignore it and tell me to access my phones settings and tell them what software version I am running.
Meanwhile I get a little suspicious about whats going on and open a new window and follow the link I sent them.
It had been edited WHILE I was talking to them! The 1.83 part had been completely taken out. All that was left was the 1.57 update. The tech support person continued to play dumb and tell me there was only a 1.57 update and that I could contact motorola if I had any more issues.
I'll post a screenshot of what the site said when I accessed it this morning. I don't know if the info on that page is old news to these forums or when it even went up, but At&T certainly has their heads up their asses.
Oops, forgot about that mention. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Did you tell them there are even websites with benchmarks out there like
Anandtech?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4304/att-update-enables-hsupa-on-motorola-atrix-htc-inspire
wah
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Very weird....its because they are getting ready for gingerbread. Oh wait, nevermind, just wishful thinking.
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I talked with them a bit more after posting.
I told them that this was not a Motorola issue, and that I now wanted to know what had happened with the AT&T site and that I saw that it had been edited. They continued to post more Motorola contact info and asked if they could help me in any other way.
I told them that they could start by actually reading what I was typing to them, and repeated that the page had been edited. I am subjected to more waiting until finally the associate tells me they "didn't see" the second update before, but now they know what I am talking about. The page is still edited so I have no idea how they saw it right then... but yeah.
They then ask me to connect to wifi and try to perform the update. Told them I already did. They then say, that maybe AT&T recalled the update and tell me to wait. I wait. Then they come back asking if I have contacted motorola, I tell them no. They then link me to a post in motorolas forums and tell me to check there.
The thread I am linked to is merely people complaining about the same page on AT&T that I was referring to in the first place... with no answer on it as to what was going on, when I point this out the associate remains silent. I continue to do other things on my computer checking back every few minutes. After 10 minutes of silence I go ahead and tell them that I could see that they were not even going to try to help me and closed out the conversation.
Disappointing, though I am now reasonably certain that I am the reason the page got edited haha
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So do we know if anybody has gotten the update OTA or has it all been "self-help" installation. AT&T changing their website makes it appear delays to OTA update. Question remains, is it becuase of AT&T or Motorola?
That's classic, I wonder what they would say if I walked into a store and asked about the 1.83 update, especially since I have it on my phone already so I can prove it exists.
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So do we know if anybody has gotten the update OTA or has it all been "self-help" installation. AT&T changing their website makes it appear delays to OTA update. Question remains, is it becuase of AT&T or Motorola?
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My guess would be att, since Motorola had it officially on one of their websites for a USB link update
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If you check the motorola owners forums, they say the update hasnt officially been publicly released although, many ppl besides beta testers were able to snag the update before it seemed to have been pulled. You can always download the 1.83 SBF thats floating around and flash to it.
Nothing new here. AT&T sticking thier heads and the sand and ignoring the customer. Can not/will not even respond to direct legitimate questions. Maybe it is time to try to get their attention another way. here is the link where you can post comments to the FCC concerning their attempt to monopolize. http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/
I think everybody that has an issue with at&t's customer support, rate plans, crippling devices, false advertising, etc., that have tried to get answers or support with no satisfaction should make these issues known. If the congressional reps on the committees start asking the same questions we have, then maybe, just maybe, att will understand we are customers, and not just a source of income. Maybe I should start a thread just for this so we get as many people as possible to send their thoughts along.
I've been running 1.83 since the 29th and I'm not a beta tester. I actually got it by downloading the Motorola software Updater from here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSummary.asp?country=USA&language=ENS&web_page_name=SUPPORT&strCarrierId=ATT&strPhone=Motorola%20ATRIX(TM)%204G&strCable=Micro%20USB%20Data%20Cable&strURL=https://rsddownload.motorola.com/download/SoftwareUpdateforATTATRIX4Gversion.4.1.57.pdf.
All I did was plug my phone in and it looked for an update for like 5 minutes then said there was one available and asked if I wanted to install it (Of course yes) 15 min later it was done. I actually flashed back to 1.26 3 times and updated to 1.83 like this because I messed up root (Come to find I just needed gingerbreak). Some people can't get it so I'm not sure if they took it down from moto or what the deal was. Everything on the page says 1.57 but it still let me update to 1.83 multiple times so I donno.
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I've been running 1.83 since the 29th and I'm not a beta tester. I actually got it by downloading the Motorola software Updater from here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSummary.asp?country=USA&language=ENS&web_page_name=SUPPORT&strCarrierId=ATT&strPhone=Motorola%20ATRIX(TM)%204G&strCable=Micro%20USB%20Data%20Cable&strURL=https://rsddownload.motorola.com/download/SoftwareUpdateforATTATRIX4Gversion.4.1.57.pdf.
All I did was plug my phone in and it looked for an update for like 5 minutes then said there was one available and asked if I wanted to install it (Of course yes) 15 min later it was done. I actually flashed back to 1.26 3 times and updated to 1.83 like this because I messed up root (Come to find I just needed gingerbreak). Some people can't get it so I'm not sure if they took it down from moto or what the deal was. Everything on the page says 1.57 but it still let me update to 1.83 multiple times so I donno.
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when did you do this?
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I'm pretty sure it was the morning of the 29th.
It was working, but has since been pulled. I saw both the AT&T page as well as the Moto update. Neither are working now.
Ima stop by the store and inquire about it there, see how interesting that conversation is as soon as I'm done at the gym since there's an official att store right next door, talk about convenient.
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Same here...I got the update from the moto site on the morning of the 29th.
Well, that turned out to be as pointless as I expected it to be, no one had any clue what I was talking about or why the update would be there one minute then all traces be gone the next. Their only suggestion was maybe there was a bug in it.
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Maybe there going to update to unlock unknown apps so u can install Amazon app n other programs.
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From what i've read, i'm guessing the 1.83 update is still in beta testing, but for some reason someone in ATT's dev team messed up and relayed it as "release" to another ATT team and motorola, who put it up on their websites as available for download without further questioning. If anyone got it through OTA, they might have been part of the first wave before someone in ATT realized the mistake and pulled the update out.
Then ATT decided to go for a "what update?" policy instead of "whoops."