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So I tried a forum search and Google search but I came up short; hopefully the community can help answer this question for me. I'm not sure if this is normal or not, or maybe I'm spoiled by Sense on Android. I am running Elegancia v8.5, if that makes any difference.
The widgets on my HD2, for example, like weather and Twitter, will not update by themselves, even though i have them both set to update automatically. For Twitter, I even have it so I get an audible tone when it updates and there are new tweets, but I only actually get a notification when I restart my phone.
The weather itself, on the Today screen, will stay the same temperature and won't update until I go to the weather tab, then it will update. I didn't turn off my phone for two days, nor did I go into the weather tab over that period of time, and the weather was the same until I finally went to the tab, then it updated at that point and time.
When I was running Sense on my old Android device, I would have Twitter update every hour, and every hour, on the hour, I would get a notification and an audible tone, unlike with Sense on WinMo.
In addition, the weather would update every hour as well from the home screen, without me having to open up the weather application.
Getting on to the point, is this normal operation? If not, what am I doing wrong that it won't update like it is supposed to. If it is normal, is there anything I can do to make it work like I want it to work, or am I just going to have to deal with it?
Thanks in advance.
I'm running stock ROM and my weather updates in the background, and it is always current when I slide to it. I dont' use twitter so I can't answer that one.
Is the home screen shown in all of the Aria pics the full Sense UI or not?
See the pics below of the Aria with Android and another HTC Windows Mobile phone with Sense.
Can the Aria be made to look like the WM Sense?
Why would you replace HTC's BEAUTIFUL OS with crappy, ugly WM... It's pointless and unethical!
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Why would you replace HTC's BEAUTIFUL OS with crappy, ugly WM... It's pointless and unethical!
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I'm not replacing the OS; one point of getting the Aria is the Android. I'm asking about the Android Sense vs. the WM Sense. I like all of the information immediately available on the Sense found on my WM phone and want to see if the Android Sense is configurable in the same way.
For example, can scheduled Calendar events appear on the Android Sense home screen? Or Call History? Or the Quick Links?
In other words, is the Android Sense the same as the WM Sense?
Yes. It will look slightly different, but you can put in a calender widget that will take up one row on the home screen. Below that you have room for one row of icons or another single line widget. So my current home screen has the clock with weather, then calender, then icons for messages, email, camera, and internet.
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Yes. It will look slightly different, but you can put in a calender widget that will take up one row on the home screen. Below that you have room for one row of icons or another single line widget. So my current home screen has the clock with weather, then calender, then icons for messages, email, camera, and internet.
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That's a great clarification. So, to be sure I understand, the Calendar widget isn't just an icon, but an actual description of the calendar event that is scheduled? Is there a single line widget for Call History too? And I assume the row of four icons is customizable?
And is there a scroll-up feature in which more Quick Links can appear? If not, how are the apps you use most accessed?
Is it possible to have Quick Links on the Home screen to people I call the most with an photo icon of that person?
There is no tab slider like on the WM Sense?
How do Missed Calls and Voicemail appears on the Home screen?
Sorry for the many questions, but I really like the WM Sense and want to make an informed decision about the Aria.
Much appreciated.
drjim said:
That's a great clarification. So, to be sure I understand, the Calendar widget isn't just an icon, but an actual description of the calendar event that is scheduled? Is there a single line widget for Call History too? And I assume the row of four icons is customizable?
And is there a scroll-up feature in which more Quick Links can appear? If not, how are the apps you use most accessed?
Finally, there is no tab slider like on the WM Sense?
How do Missed Calls and Voicemail appears on the Home screen?
Sorry for the many questions, but I really like the WM Sense and want to make an informed decision about the Aria.
Much appreciated.
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I'll do my best here. i'm brand new to andriod from a Fuze myself. Sense on android gives you 7 home screens. Each of these on the aria essentially has a 4x4 grid for icons, with more vertical spacing than horizontal. You can fill these with shortcuts, widgets, links, etc. So on my central home screen i have the 4x2 widget for the clock, then the 1x4 widget for the calender, and then four 1x1 icons. Then you can arrange the other 6 home screens however you like.
The calendar widget shows the next event on your calender with basic details, and when clicked it opens the full calender.
You can't swipe up like on WM, but you can swipe side to side to get to the other screens (think iphone) You can also pinch the screen and get a preview of all 7 home screens and jump to the one you want. basically you can organize these 7 home screens however you want. for any apps you don't put on a home screen there is a menu that pops up with all listed, accessed by the up arrow next to the phone button at the bottom of the screen.
notifications show up on top of program icons, as well as in teh top info bar which is shown on all home screens. This will show time, battery, signal, sound profile, if headphones are in, new mail, new message, if an app is downloading, if one is done installing, missed calls, etc. If you swipe down on this info bar you get more info on some notifications, as well as a way to jump to the app for some of them.
it's long, but hope this helps. Go play with an aria at a store. It's light years more responsive than the fuze. and i'm liking it a lot more.
cegna09 said:
I'll do my best here. i'm brand new to andriod from a Fuze myself. Sense on android gives you 7 home screens. Each of these on the aria essentially has a 4x4 grid for icons, with more vertical spacing than horizontal. You can fill these with shortcuts, widgets, links, etc. So on my central home screen i have the 4x2 widget for the clock, then the 1x4 widget for the calender, and then four 1x1 icons. Then you can arrange the other 6 home screens however you like.
The calendar widget shows the next event on your calender with basic details, and when clicked it opens the full calender.
You can't swipe up like on WM, but you can swipe side to side to get to the other screens (think iphone) You can also pinch the screen and get a preview of all 7 home screens and jump to the one you want. basically you can organize these 7 home screens however you want. for any apps you don't put on a home screen there is a menu that pops up with all listed, accessed by the up arrow next to the phone button at the bottom of the screen.
notifications show up on top of program icons, as well as in teh top info bar which is shown on all home screens. This will show time, battery, signal, sound profile, if headphones are in, new mail, new message, if an app is downloading, if one is done installing, missed calls, etc. If you swipe down on this info bar you get more info on some notifications, as well as a way to jump to the app for some of them.
it's long, but hope this helps. Go play with an aria at a store. It's light years more responsive than the fuze. and i'm liking it a lot more.
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Thanks for the great info. One more question (for now): Does voice command work with the wired headset (I've been told that BT voice command doesn't exist)?
I'm heading to a store asap!!
I haven't tried with the wired headset. unfortunatly it's at home so i can't try till i'm there. I"ve never cared for voice commands, so it's no loss to me.
Can i switch to Vanilla instead? i tried with the normal method but it won't let me
There is currently no way to switch to stock UI
Sent from my HTC Liberty
cropythy said:
There is currently no way to switch to stock UI
Sent from my HTC Liberty
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Actually, there is a root available that is as close as possible to stock Sense (a few AT&T apps left, but easily deleted). The bootscreen is normal, and so is everything else. Rooting mine tomorrow as soon as it comes in. Stupid AT&T sending the phone 2 days late...
Will the HTC Evo 4g receive a update for the new sense ui? I have been wanting this implementation for a while now. Also what does HD in the new HTC Desire mean?
probably high definition, high definition is more of a buzzword then a term, technically the first "hd" tv was invented back around the 50s, its definitely above 480p (enhanced definition) but below the current standard of high definition (720i) the current trend of android phones support 800 x 480 while the highest standard for edtv i believe it 576p(pal resolution)
What's so HD about the HTC Desire? I mean it's like a beefed up verson of the Evo without the kickstand. Also I hope the new sense ui comes out soon!
are there any major differences? I can't tell by looking at some of the pictures out there. what is new in sense?
"-New flip clock animation. There also aren't that many clock widgets,
-There is a blocked callers app, HTC Hub app for your HTC Sense account. For people who just get this new phone, they have an App where they can transfer over their data from their other phone over a bluetooth connection.
-Messaging app: UI overhaul. You have an option for push messages. In the settings you have the option to forward messages to your phone or email addres. Inside the thread there is a sort of new view. It displays the contacts name and number at the same time.
-There is also an app that will link your contacts with the social networking websites, that was demonstrated in that video. It's nothing really new, it just gives you the option to link the twitter and facebook once you add a new contact to the phone.
-The personalize button is the same thing as long pressing on the screen, but it's more personal. A lot more options are put all together in the same place, but essentially the same thing.
-People Widget: There is a new People widget, and by default it displays the contact photos and their facebook/twitter status. But once you get a message or they update any one of those, it replaces the previous status. So if you got a text message, it would show up next to their name, you can tap it and be redirected to the messaging app.
-New Live Wallpaper: There is a wallpaper that you can set that will be based off of pictures you select, so that every time you unlock the phone or go back to the homescreen from any app, you see a new wallpaper. The default images on this rom are great, and i love seeing a new image, its my favorite wallpaper.
-Notifications: Inside your notification pulldown, it displays all recent apps, so you no longer have to hold down the home button, just drag down and select. Also, what htey didnt talk about is how if you're playing music, you have the option to pause the song from the notification pulldown.
-There is a power saver feature
-There is an option for the ringer to become quiet once the phone is moved, and for the ringer to become louder when it's in your pocket.
-New HTC Keyboard, and a new calibration app that looks sexy as hell
-HTC Skins
-Over all higher resolution
-Internet browser: No more fullscreen mode, but you have the refresh button and a new RSS button. Also, next to the RSS button is a button for bookmarking. YOu have the option to disable animated gif animations.
-This is true froyo, so it restores your apps when you load up the app, but only if you were on a version of froyo that had that option, like cyanogenmod
-for search, i never really used it so this may not be new, but you can search every single thing on your phone. i mean, down to a specific word in a text message
-this isnt on my rom but i remember seeing it..you had the option to have these nice power control widgets. one of them that i used was the wireless and settings widget. which contained htc sync, wifi, roaming, mobile network and a button that took you to the settings section under settings
-iPhone magnifying glass when it comes to editing text. It's not the exact same (obviously) it's a square."
I posted that on reddit some weeks ago,thats just some of the new stuff i noticed in the new rom
ms79723 said:
"-New flip clock animation. There also aren't that many clock widgets,
-There is a blocked callers app, HTC Hub app for your HTC Sense account. For people who just get this new phone, they have an App where they can transfer over their data from their other phone over a bluetooth connection.
-Messaging app: UI overhaul. You have an option for push messages. In the settings you have the option to forward messages to your phone or email addres. Inside the thread there is a sort of new view. It displays the contacts name and number at the same time.
-There is also an app that will link your contacts with the social networking websites, that was demonstrated in that video. It's nothing really new, it just gives you the option to link the twitter and facebook once you add a new contact to the phone.
-The personalize button is the same thing as long pressing on the screen, but it's more personal. A lot more options are put all together in the same place, but essentially the same thing.
-People Widget: There is a new People widget, and by default it displays the contact photos and their facebook/twitter status. But once you get a message or they update any one of those, it replaces the previous status. So if you got a text message, it would show up next to their name, you can tap it and be redirected to the messaging app.
-New Live Wallpaper: There is a wallpaper that you can set that will be based off of pictures you select, so that every time you unlock the phone or go back to the homescreen from any app, you see a new wallpaper. The default images on this rom are great, and i love seeing a new image, its my favorite wallpaper.
-Notifications: Inside your notification pulldown, it displays all recent apps, so you no longer have to hold down the home button, just drag down and select. Also, what htey didnt talk about is how if you're playing music, you have the option to pause the song from the notification pulldown.
-There is a power saver feature
-There is an option for the ringer to become quiet once the phone is moved, and for the ringer to become louder when it's in your pocket.
-New HTC Keyboard, and a new calibration app that looks sexy as hell
-HTC Skins
-Over all higher resolution
-Internet browser: No more fullscreen mode, but you have the refresh button and a new RSS button. Also, next to the RSS button is a button for bookmarking. YOu have the option to disable animated gif animations.
-This is true froyo, so it restores your apps when you load up the app, but only if you were on a version of froyo that had that option, like cyanogenmod
-for search, i never really used it so this may not be new, but you can search every single thing on your phone. i mean, down to a specific word in a text message
-this isnt on my rom but i remember seeing it..you had the option to have these nice power control widgets. one of them that i used was the wireless and settings widget. which contained htc sync, wifi, roaming, mobile network and a button that took you to the settings section under settings
-iPhone magnifying glass when it comes to editing text. It's not the exact same (obviously) it's a square."
I posted that on reddit some weeks ago,thats just some of the new stuff i noticed in the new rom
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Nice summary.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G Using Tapa Talk Pro!
god does this get new thread every day?
Thanks for summary.
Is this just an updated list... ie: is the new Sense UI still in development.
rockky said:
Thanks for summary.
Is this just an updated list... ie: is the new Sense UI still in development.
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The new Sense UI is complete, because its already on the Desire HD and Z. Only things that is constantly being updated is the stuff for the HTC Hub. But thats just themes, ringtones, wallpapers, skins and whatnot.
New Sense = SEX.
I can't stop using it...
The Mail app and widget have also been greatly improved on the new Sense UI. It adds a universal inbox as well as batch actions. Much nicer to need only one Mail widget now on the homescreen for those people with mutliple email addresses.
i wish they would release an update to the sense ui for the non HD Desire :/
The Calendar Widget on my tablet isn't changing to reflect the day of the week.
The main time and date one updates properly but the widget doesn't - a removal and replacement on the home page fixes for the day but next day same thing.
I have looked everywhere for a setting I have missed but can't see anything.
Can anyone shed some light on this and or suggest a better calandar widget that will update as required. i don't need anything too complex just something to keep track of a few appointments etc./
thanks
Are you using the regular calendar widget that is installed by default?
Yes, I am.
Sorry, I should have made that clearer in my question.
Please have a look at my new app Now Cards for Zooper. I've used tsasker integration to make some of the widgets more unique - there's auto updating news widgets (more feeds will be made on request) and one which shows you your latest text message.
They're alongside calendar, weather, clock, etc. widgets. Take a look and make sure you read the description before you download. If you've got any problems, just post and let me know.
EDIT: The free version now contains a facebook widget too! (post 10 for pictures). This will stay as 4x1, but this, alongside a 4x2 and 4x3 will be coming to the paid version in the next few days
Paid version - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.est1994.zwskin.nowcards
Free version - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.est1994.zwskin.nowcards
Very cool idea, few questions.
Is this a "Google Now" replacement?
Its almost identical to "Goolge now" , whats the advantages of using Zooper and Tasker?
Could you add other buttons and functionality to the cards aswell?
- like say the incoming text card, can you add a reply button? that would pop up a reply text box etc?
- Or a card that has the ability to show current sound volumes? or the ability to change them from card?
- If you could add other app info like facebook (probably insane to get configured) it would be an awesome "Launcher" type of app etc.
Are you allowed to post links to paid apps on xda? Cant remember the rules (Current)
other than those, looking great! good luck.
Thanks for the support! Its kind of intended as a Now replacement, I love having Google now built into the Google launcher, but can't deal without any customizations, son its really intended for people with similar ideas.
Using Tasker gives a lot more options in terms of what can be displayed! Many things from the internet and almost any stat from your device can be displayed oince you combine the two - tasked is a lot more powerful than Zooper.
Unfortunately some if what what you're asking is still a little out of range. Things which involve interaction such as volume sliders or a functional reply box are not do-able from my app, however, you could create your own tasked scene and launch it as an OnTap action on the widget. I'd love to bundle this with the app my pself but I've found that Tasked scenes do not translate well across changes in screen size. I could definitely add one for current volumes though if you wanted? And anything else you might like? I will look into Facebook tomorrow, but its late here so I need some sleep!
And I'm not sure about posting paid links, I meant to double check the rules before posting but totally forgot! I didn't hear anything last time I did it though so fingers crossed
EDIT: I couldn't resist having a quick look - Facebook notifications can (and will) be made as a widget, but actual feeds cannot
These look great! But I am unclear as to when these show onscreen...are they always on widgets or just popup when info arrives? Thanks
They are all always on. Everything always has information to display! Are you asking more specifically about the Tasker widgets? If so, tasker collects information every 2 hours by default, with each collection gaining 5-7 stories (depending on provider). Only one story is 'given' to Zooper at a time, with the displayed story changing every 30 minutes.
I hope that answers your question?
I know this may not be exactly what you had in mind, but here's a Facebook widget I knocked up. There's also a 4x2, but that's just a shorter version of the large one. What do you think?
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I know this may not be exactly what you had in mind, but here's a Facebook widget I knocked up. There's also a 4x2, but that's just a shorter version of the large one. What do you think?
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Looks great. Upon pressing it. Takes you right to Facebook?
To me flip book is annoying. But . I'm looking for a "sense" type of home page. You ever seen HTC sense home pages? If you could make the boxes a transparent black etc. Lol I love the Google now aspect, but their new material colors are... Not what I like. Lol but that's a great start. Smaller font perhaps.
Thanks for the feedback I thought about smaller fonts, but I wanted it wall to be readable at a glance and to follow Google as much as possible, but yes, clicking on the FB widget could take you straight to Facebook, but I've left all the shortcuts blank so you can pick where you want it to take you, possibly the notifications page directly?
If you send some HTC sense pics, maybe I'll think about making some wpof their widgets at some point too?
I decided to do a free version of this too - its got all the 4x1 widgets, but with none of the tasker integration or 4x2 widgets, so you can still get a good effect. Follow the link to grab it! Lasker
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.est1994.zwskin.nowcardsfree
Here's the new facebook widget, submitted to the free version already and coming to the paid version soon!