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2k3 for T-Mo, but can you believe this?

Okay, yesterday afternoon, at the Mobility & Wireless Conference I met up with a T-Mo tech and account reps who confirmed that the 2k3 upgrade will be made available and be very soon, but cannot provide a date. They really want to make sure it is bug free and that they do not want to experience a Toshiba-like fiasco. They did not have an MDA available, although they said something about 11/1; however, their MDAs on display were already running 2k3! They allowed me to do a soft-reset and this is what I saw:
Same "Not for sale" T-Mobile splash screen as seen on 4.00.16 and .21.
ROM v.4.00.03
RS v6.23
:shock: :shock: :shock:
- they stated that it has been running very well and stable and that this is their "x-th" build they've been exposed to. They are very aware of the versions tested on the forums here, but didn't really want to comment other than the later builds maybe buggy and warranty being voided, yada, yada, yada...and we left it at that.
They did reassure though that they want to release the most stable and well tested build as that is what the customers deserve - that is the reason for the delay.

reydiodj said:
Okay, yesterday afternoon, at the Mobility & Wireless Conference I met up with a T-Mo tech and account reps who confirmed that the 2k3 upgrade will be made available and be very soon, but cannot provide a date. They really want to make sure it is bug free and that they do not want to experience a Toshiba-like fiasco. .
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I'm wondering how could T-mobile to make sure it is bug free .
all Microsoft products are full of bugs!
I have IPAQ with WM2003, it is buggy software. system crashes/frozens are very offen!

That's just bizzare! Their devices were running older builds than we have been running here!?
I'd certainly be happy for them to wait to get any radio stack bugs out....since there is certainly room for improvement.
Anyone ever seen radio stack 6.23?
..lance

I'm still curious as to the radio stack version that was stripped out of the 4.00.21 ROM...

T-mobile wants to make sure it is bug free . at least we need wait another 20 years!
the radio stack comes with 4.00.21 is 6.24.
if you need I could send to you!

cgigate said:
T-mobile wants to make sure it is bug free . at least we need wait anther 20 years!
the radio stack comes with 4.00.21 is 6.28.
if you need I could send to you!
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Hey, could you post that RS 6.28 anywhere for us to play with

post it here
if you wish you can upload it here (but only the radio stack please) and anyone can get it ftom
www.op.ro/xda
ftp server: op.ro
ftp port: 21
user: [email protected]
pass: xda
Decebal

cgigate said:
T-mobile wants to make sure it is bug free . at least we need wait anther 20 years!
the radio stack comes with 4.00.21 is 6.28.
if you need I could send to you!
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Hey... Could you send me that radio stack 6.28? Just email me at [email protected] Thanks!

T-Mobile To Release A 2003 Upgrade For Free!

T-Mobile is pleased to announce the upcoming launch of the Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition Upgrade. The upgrade includes many new features, and it's FREE for all existing T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition customers ($30 value).
As more information is available, this page will be updated
http://www.t-mobile.com/promos/ppc2003/default.asp
so please check back again.
T-Mobile provides the largest Global GSM/GPRS network so you can access the information you need when you need it.
WorldClass International device for global access (dual band: 900 & 1900 MHz).

Additional ?
Do you know any info ?
* version
* radio
* additions ..
And bw ... where have you found this info ?
Thanks,
Decebal

This info was posted on pocketpcthoughs.com yesterday, I don't know how Janak over there found it. I tried looking for it through T-Mo's website but couldn't locate the page (perhapse I'm daft on that today).
I'm assuming its similar to the builds we've been seeing here in terms of versions.

There's only one person that I know of that has the info. you seek.
Maybe he'll read this thread and post it later on, we hope! :wink:
HTH

dadarkmcse said:
This info was posted on pocketpcthoughs.com yesterday, I don't know how Janak over there found it. I tried looking for it through T-Mo's website but couldn't locate the page (perhapse I'm daft on that today).
I'm assuming its similar to the builds we've been seeing here in terms of versions.
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Its also on T-Mobile's front page under the heading T-Mobile for Business
Goto Visit: http://www.t-mobile.com/ and scroll down, you'll see it!
HTH

Hi all,
Qman, you're right! I'll post a hint of the latest
I'm currently in touch with a T-Mo rep in testing out a newer ROM and RS. I am patiently (actually anxiously) awaiting a test copy of:
ROM v4.00.39
RS 6.24.01
- as for any new additions on it I will not know until I see it (hopefully before the end of the week). He did however, hint that it very well may be the final release version announced, except that it lacks IMEI. In other words, the one coming out may be the same one I am about to test, but will include IMEI.
BTW: I seem to believe RS 6.28 may actually be a myth until cgigate or someone else actually shares it to all of us.

You're the man Rey and thanks! :wink:
Also drop me a email with a few details on how the Microsoft Pocket PC/Smartphone Users Group Tour went on Monday.

Actually, we have experienced bad T-mobile WM2003 upgrade (test version).
Too many problems to use T-mobile (US) customized WM2003 version, it is not good for non-T-mobile users

As I was just checking the t-mobile website, I noticed the link to the free upgrade notice has been removed. The direct URL still works and the page has not yet changed however. I guess that means either a) the upgrade will be available really really soon or b) the release has been postponed. Let's hope it's a. :|

Any news about the upgrade? Anyone talk to T-Mobile this week?
J

I'm testing it right now...so far no SD erasures (like in .21 and prior) and some nice refinements in the themes and default page - a "Set up email" tickler on the Today screen. RS 6.24.01 testing out really well for me so far. I'm under a casual NDL - and will go over what I can share here with T-Mobile next week.

reydiodj said:
I'm testing it right now...so far no SD erasures (like in .21 and prior) and some nice refinements in the themes and default page - a "Set up email" tickler on the Today screen. RS 6.24.01 testing out really well for me so far. I'm under a casual NDL - and will go over what I can share here with T-Mobile next week.
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That's great.
If you can you tell me:
1. what version number ?
2. how much space do we have for additional apps ?
3. any apps or mods significantly different since .21 ?
4. ETA for official release (probably next week ) ?
Thanks,
Decebal

Hi -
I want to be detailed next week, on the count of I'm in the middle of moving to a new house, packing for a cruise to Ensenada, and having just become a Contributing Editor for www.mpx200.org :shock:
but I will confirm this so far:
ROM version: 4.01.00
RS 6.24.01

So does this mean that there might be an Upgrade for the 02 XDA as well?

Does anyone have any updated information on the official release of WM2003 from T-Mobil?
Thanx.

Keep your eyes open on this board. I'm sure as soon as they post it on their website, it will be BIG news here!

Thanx Greg. I'm waiting as fast as I can....just thought someone would have an update on the progress. :roll:

The web page is gone
I tried to go to the web page this morning and it is gone. Are they releasing it today, maybe?
http://www.t-mobile.com/promos/ppc2003/default.asp

I'm just awaiting a reply from my contact before I can divulge anymore - overall, though, I'm very satisfied with this version I've been testing - no SD card erasures yet (cross my fingers). Investigating a couple of things though...

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I'm just awaiting a reply from my contact before I can divulge anymore
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Hmmmmm..... very interesting...... :lol:

European English ROM 1.48 Available Now at HTC European Home

Go here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=804
I bought my phone in Belgium, but I assume all your UK S/N's will get you the same download immediately...
FWIW, server "Europe 1" is VERY slow for me -- using Europe 2 and getting 1Mb --

nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??

DAMIEN123_666 said:
nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??
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yes it is

I wondered the same thing about the camera fix - the camera fix is dated by HTC as being released 2 days after the ROM update so hard to know.
And funny what you said: I downloaded the new ROM but haven't installed it as I'm having second thoughts about the hassle of reinstalling and reconfiguring... I'm interested to hear what everyone thinks (i.e., is there some improvement that actually makes it worth the time).

leetenough said:
yes it is
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Genuine curiosity and ignorance here: Why is it worth it?

I would be interested to know if this rom has Copilot8 trial. I would really like to get rid of it.

DAMIEN123_666 said:
nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??
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iphoneresister said:
Genuine curiosity and ignorance here: Why is it worth it?
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i meant, that the camera-fix is included

Still not listed on HTC UK site.
I get this message when i try on the Europe one.
"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
I am assume as mines from O2 they wont let me get it direct from the HTC site.

leetenough said:
i meant, that the camera-fix is included
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Surely the fix isn't included? As the camera fix says its from all versions below 1.6?

bzdemes said:
Still not listed on HTC UK site.
I get this message when i try on the Europe one.
"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
I am assume as mines from O2 they wont let me get it direct from the HTC site.
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Bummer. Sorry for the false alarm. I guess I should have known there would be a difference between European English and UK English. What the difference is, I have no idea... maybe the pound symbol on the main keyboard or something?

Please note mine is an O2 phone so it will probably say no to me on either site. Someone with a UK completely unlocked/unbranded phone should check.

bzdemes said:
Please note mine is an O2 phone so it will probably say no to me on either site. Someone with a UK completely unlocked/unbranded phone should check.
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I have a sim free bought from Handtec with o2 sim in it and my serial allows the update

Stupid branded phones. I have to either wait for ever for O2 to release a version or try out this gold card method of flashing. Fun Fun.

Bought mine via Vodaphone although it appears to be unbranded. I also get the serial number not recognised text.

tho iam undecided on installing it yet ..as I dont have any issues with my phone except the over bright flash

I need the latest just because its the latest lol. Would be nice if there was a full change log though.

bzdemes said:
Would be nice if there was a full change log though.
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Yes, instead of HTC marketing copy about your staying better connected with your "loved ones"

from the updates that seem to be know at the moment im not going to update yet, i feel my device is running great now i have the camera fix and moving from 1.43 to 1.48 seems to much hassle as i have alot of tweaks and apps to install and configure, if i do install the new one,

Hi,
Is there a quick way to save my Orange rom before I flash the HTC rom (in case I need to revert back to the Orange rom).
Thx,
Ben

3.Staying connected to your loved ones is as important to you as it is to us, and we’ve enhanced our voice quality even more in this update. Now updated, we’re delivering crystal clear sound quality, making it even easier to feel close to your loved ones, even when you are on the move.
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Sounds like a good reason to upgrade. besides, I love to stay up to date. It's a must for me.

Official ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 (T-Mobile) UK 15/03/10 1.43.110.2

for anyone on t-mobile uk standard rom there is an upgrade on HTC site
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=902

This is the same as the version that originally shipped with the device?

hollinshead said:
This is the same as the version that originally shipped with the device?
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mine is a sim free phone so i could not login to look at the changelog
perhaps if yours is branded tmobile you could do so, and post the changelog here ?
there must be some change or why would they post it dated 15/03/10 ???

amarko5 said:
mine is a sim free phone so i could not login to look at the changelog
perhaps if yours is branded tmobile you could do so, and post the changelog here ?
there must be some change or why would they post it dated 15/03/10 ???
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there is no changelog from htc's site. it's just a small "updated" t-mo uk ROM, still based on the very first 1.43 ROMs. i wont call it an update at all. FYI, this so called update has been made available in xda for a long time now. i've downloaded it and compared the Hash, and they are 100% identical.

omg!
if this is the update i've waited 3 months for then heads are gonna roll!
is it actually the exact same rom as before?
what the hell was the point in it?

cgrec92 said:
omg!
if this is the update i've waited 3 months for then heads are gonna roll!
is it actually the exact same rom as before?
what the hell was the point in it?
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So they could tell all their customers a ROM update was coming?
See, they didn't lie

alexnvidia said:
there is no changelog from htc's site. it's just a small "updated" t-mo uk ROM, still based on the very first 1.43 ROMs. i wont call it an update at all. FYI, this so called update has been made available in xda for a long time now. i've downloaded it and compared the Hash, and they are 100% identical.
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Ohh I am "SO SORRY" i wasted my time posting something i noticed on The HTC site.
Next time I notice something I won't waste my time posting then

Please don't tell me there are people out there STILL running the original T-Knobile rom???

1.43??? O2 Germany just released 1.72... :S

alexnvidia said:
there is no changelog from htc's site. it's just a small "updated" t-mo uk ROM, still based on the very first 1.43 ROMs. i wont call it an update at all. FYI, this so called update has been made available in xda for a long time now. i've downloaded it and compared the Hash, and they are 100% identical.
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It's not even an update. Its the exact same version number that I have on my original ROM T-Mobile HD2 - ROM Version:1.43.110.2.
And yes, I still have my original ROM. It works okay for what I do, and want to stick with official ROMs if possible. Maybe in the future if T-Mobile don't give a real update, or I hit serious issues, but for now I'd like to keep my warranty intact. I'm aware I can re-flash it easily back to the original ROM (even more so now that ROM is officially available to download) - however my concern is over times when I get a fault which means I cannot re-flash it.

i'm on the original t-mobile rom and find it suitable. the only real change ive made is to revert back to the windows messaging set up, not htc messages.
how many people on the original rom have had problems with HTC messaging?

The disclaimer says:
* This is a generic software update. Any additional software or settings provided by your mobile operator or company will be lost. If you require this customization, please contact your supplier first before upgrading.
This may 'unlock' t-mobile from their current position and allow them the HTC rom upgrade path.
Has anyone tried this?

constructorx said:
The disclaimer says:
* This is a generic software update. Any additional software or settings provided by your mobile operator or company will be lost. If you require this customization, please contact your supplier first before upgrading.
This may 'unlock' t-mobile from their current position and allow them the HTC rom upgrade path.
Has anyone tried this?
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Interesting point, however I suspect it's a standard disclaimer they put onto their ROM downloads. Would be interesting though for someone to confirm?

Well, someone try and download it using their S/N and try flashing. Worst that happens is it says 'Incorrect Vendor ID'

amarko5 said:
Ohh I am "SO SORRY" i wasted my time posting something i noticed on The HTC site.
Next time I notice something I won't waste my time posting then
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i wasnt exactly trying to gun u down mate. i was actually aiming for t-mobile and htc.

rom upgrade INDIA
when is a rom upgrade for indian users coming??????????
ANy Help HEre....

At least we now have an official T-Mobile ROM we can revert to if we ever need to take the phone back.
I know they tend not to bother if you install other ROMs, but nice to have it as a fallback option.

*sigh*
Goldcard here we come... Interesting that on t-mo's own forum thread
they haven't actually announced the availability of this yet (even though they must be able to see their own customers fuming away...)
support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=801038058f61be601258e88860f007fca&messageit.offset=70
(can't post the link, so you'll have to cut and paste..)
I don't even want to think what the reaction on there is going to be once they actually announce it.
Ah, no, they'll mark it as solved, and no-one will be able to post! Good stuff, eh?

I tried it just incase it was generic but that was a a massive waste of time, as far as I can see this rom is identical to the factory version.

ukdaves said:
Goldcard here we come... Interesting that on t-mo's own forum thread
they haven't actually announced the availability of this yet (even though they must be able to see their own customers fuming away...)
support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=801038058f61be601258e88860f007fca&messageit.offset=70
(can't post the link, so you'll have to cut and paste..)
I don't even want to think what the reaction on there is going to be once they actually announce it.
Ah, no, they'll mark it as solved, and no-one will be able to post! Good stuff, eh?
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Don't need a gold card, just install HSPL and away you go!!

TMO US: Updated ROM (Version 2.13.531.1)! Has anyone tried it?

(Looks like noone has posted about this here yet)
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo
Anyone knows what has been fixed and what else has been changed in this ROM?

from what I've got elsewhere on xda, the 2.13 base "feels" slower than the 2.10 base, apparently due to some changes in the touch driver.
Replacing the touch dll's with 2.10 ones seems to fix it.

yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.

DaveNavy said:
yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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Care to share the key so we can download it too?

digitalhater said:
Care to share the key so we can download it too?
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I second this.
I would also like to try it...

DaveNavy said:
yea the leak version was very slow but the official in question is on my device now and its awesome, looks like ALL the issues HD2 had on Launch in USA for T-Mobile have been resolved, all the things that made the HD2 kinda Suck have been fixed, I think there should be a big announcement about this ROM upgrade because the early release ROM that shipped on the device gave the device a bad reputation already people mentioning "Lag" and constant "reset's" and things of that sort, I think T-Mobile should really Publicly encourage the ROM upgrade and add something cool to the upgrade like a cool free app which would be some sort of incentive to run the ROM update....and get people talking about how great and fast it is now once its updated, craigspissed actually has people trying to trade off iphone 2G's straight across for HD2 phones claiming the HD2 is too slow and has issues,...wait till wm7 gets released on the USA T-Mobile version which it will by the way, there is a reason why T-mobile version packs that extra RAM over the Euro version, it was part of an agreement with HTC that T-Mobile would receive a wm7 upgrade giving a second burst to HD2 Sales once the release of wm7 happens.
This ROM really has sorted out all the kinks,....The official t-mobile one though not the leak one.
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Maybe you could post the ROM on 4shared.com if you don't like sharing your key!?

RE795 said:
I second this.
I would also like to try it...
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+1 from me too! I would also like to try it!

oh you mean give my IMEI number out for everyone to see it?...LOL!!!! NO WAY!!! but perhaps I could upload it to my rapidshare account....Give me a few minutes and I will put up a link.

DaveNavy said:
oh you mean give my IMEI number out for everyone to see it?...LOL!!!! NO WAY!!! but perhaps I could upload it to my rapidshare account....Give me a few minutes and I will put up a link.
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That will be great thanks!

well I couldn't do rapidshare cause I only have a free account and the file is 206.18 MB so i used this new one instead: here is the Link
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/144394/T-Mobile_HD2_MR_Software_2.13.531.1.exe
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You will need winRAR to extract and build the .exe
I split the .exe into two .rar archives on 4shared so it would be under 200mb so I could upload it, its uploading now, you will have to download both .rar files and right click .rar1 and hit extract and it will automatically extract .rar2 and create a folder with the Official .exe in it.
HERE IS THE LINK GUYS:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/39776826/c46977da/T-Mobile_HD2_MR_Software_21353.html

oh yeah!
they got rid of the texting issue! it no longer takes forever to load the text messages and no longer blacks out the the text you selected to go into the conversation losing your place in the text you are writing! i now 100% love this phone. i do wonder what else they slid in on this update on us though!
update... if you select a text from further back on your conversation it will still jump to that message you selected UNLESS you started typing already then it stays where you are! still a 500% improvement.

There is a new app called "My Account" that pulls up your t-mobile account status. Pretty cool.
I could be wrong, but my WiFi seems to be working a LOT faster after the upgrade. In fact, it does seem like the lag in several apps is gone...

sooo how do i get this rom into my phone!? is it like adding cookies home tab?

I can I know if I can install this one my phone?
My radio version is 2.08.50.08_2
I don't have the tmobile stock ROM, but a custom HyperROM version. Is it safe to install that new software update?

I posted a personal analysis change log in the T-Mobile USA section for the HD2.
I've been running this updated ROM for about 24 hours now.

how the heck do you put it on the phone I have the exe file on My Device and I go through File Explorer and click on it but it says it is not a valid Pocket PC application. What's the deal?

Stormfya said:
how the heck do you put it on the phone I have the exe file on My Device and I go through File Explorer and click on it but it says it is not a valid Pocket PC application. What's the deal?
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You run the exe from a pc.

so i figured out that it have to run it from a windows pc, but mine keeps saying rapitool has stopped working when it trys to check the device. What do i do?

Stormfya said:
so i figured out that it have to run it from a windows pc, but mine keeps saying rapitool has stopped working when it trys to check the device. What do i do?
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Are you already connected via activesync on XP or WMDC on Vista/Win7?

yes, I am
thanks for any help you can offer