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Stop Complaining about the EVO's pricing

I am extremely excited for friday to come around so I can get the EVO, that being said I have been on here alot today, and have watched alot of youtube videos.
But all of the people on here complaining about the $10 extra charge being a "deal breaker for them" is hands down the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
People the $10 extra charge is for 4G/Unlimited 3G.
This phone is like the iPhone and allows you to use ALOT of data. I don't understand how people see a phone with a 4.3 inch screen, 1ghz processor, 4G, and a list of other features and will willingly pay $200 for it, but then $10 extra month is unquestionable.
Look at what you are getting from Sprint. Sprint is IMO the best company, their prices are dirt cheap, and they truly give you everything you want.
Look at the pricing for the EVO
EVO
$79.99 per month
You get
unlimited mobile to mobile
unlimited texting
unlimited data
free calls after 7 P.M.
free turn by turn navigation from sprint
450 minutes
For $79.99
Now
the iPhone on AT&T is still $10 more expensive every month, and now Verizon and AT&T are making people get a data plan on certain phones that are not considered "smart phones"

I have a problem with paying an extra $10 per month. I already pay them $160 per month (about) for my family "unlimited" plan. 4G isn't even in my state! I planned on buying the phone out of contract... they are not subsidizing my phone in any way.
You can say "well you should be thankful it's not xxxx amount because that's what yyyyyy carrier charges you". Yeah well I'm not with yyyyyy carrier I'm with Sprint. If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
If I keep my Touch Pro 2 I don't have to pay this surcharge.... if I buy this new phone that they want people to buy it will cost me an extra $120 per year for the same service i'm already getting. Most I've burned through is about 10 GB's per month under my current "unlimited" plan and never been charged extra.
Make sense to you? Not to me.

$10 more for AT&T??
Way more...
- First off, the iPhone 3GS is $299 with 2 year contract (you CANNOT get upgrade pricing after 12 months like we do on Sprint.)
- Secondly, when comparing nearly identical offerings on Sprint vs AT&T, I just got $185/mo, NOT including taxes.
That's more than double. Just select iPhone and basically all the highest options (other than highest voice,) and that's what you already get on Sprint.

tadda said:
If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
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buh-bye. Good luck paying $180 on any other carrier, for what we get for $80.

I did not say one word about either the Iphone or AT&T.
My point is this.... I can keep my current phone (hd 2 nice but I'm sick of winmo) and not pay the $10/month surcharge. So when I buy a new phone out of contract I am paying Sprint an extra 120/year FOR NOTHING. THEY ARE DOING NOTHING MORE FOR ME NEXT MONTH THEN THEY ARE DOING FOR ME TODAY YET I AM PAYING THEM MORE.
Don't get me wrong... phone is awesome and I want it, but this 10/month thing pisses me off. It's the principal of it not the amount.

ScrapMaker said:
$10 more for AT&T??
Way more...
- First off, the iPhone 3GS is $299 with 2 year contract (you CANNOT get upgrade pricing after 12 months like we do on Sprint.)
- Secondly, when comparing nearly identical offerings on Sprint vs AT&T, I just got $185/mo, NOT including taxes.
That's more than double. Just select iPhone and basically all the highest options (other than highest voice,) and that's what you already get on Sprint.
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nah its not double more
you can't be biased when you compare is.
The 3GS 16gb model is $199, the Evo only comes with 8gb
450 minutes are $39.99
Unlimited texting is $20.00
Data is $30
that is a total of $90, what other charges were you adding on lol, I see your point tho sprint is cheaper

tadda said:
I have a problem with paying an extra $10 per month. I already pay them $160 per month (about) for my family "unlimited" plan. 4G isn't even in my state! I planned on buying the phone out of contract... they are not subsidizing my phone in any way.
You can say "well you should be thankful it's not xxxx amount because that's what yyyyyy carrier charges you". Yeah well I'm not with yyyyyy carrier I'm with Sprint. If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
If I keep my Touch Pro 2 I don't have to pay this surcharge.... if I buy this new phone that they want people to buy it will cost me an extra $120 per year for the same service i'm already getting. Most I've burned through is about 10 GB's per month under my current "unlimited" plan and never been charged extra.
Make sense to you? Not to me.
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Thats the problem right here...
And you and many others don't see it.
You are wrong!!
List me all of the features you have on your plan, (how many lines, what phones, and what plans you have)
And I guarentee it will be cheaper on Sprint. Than on AT&T and verizon or tmobile.
You will consider leaving sprint after 9 years and paying an ETF, but actually figuring out the costs and features you get on sprint v. the other carriers is unquestionable, correct?
Please list your features, untill you do that and show everyone how the other carriers are cheaper, you don't have a fair point.

mjz147 said:
nah its not double more
you can't be biased when you compare is.
The 3GS 16gb model is $199, the Evo only comes with 8gb
450 minutes are $39.99
Unlimited texting is $20.00
Data is $30
that is a total of $90, what other charges were you adding on lol, I see your point tho sprint is cheaper
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The only way to compare is to have unlimited ANY MOBILE calling... AT&T doesn't have this option, so you'd have to put on unlimited calling.
You also need to add corporate messaging/etc, because Sprint has all that included. Yes, not everyone needs that, but for those who do, it adds up.
Also, you must add unlimited route navigation.
I think you get the idea. It's hard to do a pure apples-to-apples comparison, but even when you get close, it's drastically more expensive on AT&T.

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The only way to compare is to have unlimited ANY MOBILE calling... AT&T doesn't have this option, so you'd have to put on unlimited calling.
You also need to add corporate messaging/etc, because Sprint has all that included. Yes, not everyone needs that, but for those who do, it adds up.
Also, you must add unlimited route navigation.
I think you get the idea. It's hard to do a pure apples-to-apples comparison, but even when you get close, it's drastically more expensive on AT&T.
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Ya, i didn't put that in ur right tho about those other charges, good call

$10 a month. Putting that into perspective, that's one time out in a Thai restaurant. IMHO I can live without thai food for a day and just put those $10 toward Evo which I will use EVERY DAY of the month... can't complain here

Geez... again I don't think you see my point. Let me try to rephrase a little bit.
If this $10 surcharge was across every single data-plan regardless of phone I would not be complaining, I would take my lumps and deal with it.
This $10 is for owners of the HTC Evo 4g only. That is my problem.
Example:
So if you lived in my area where there's no 4g, and had an EVO 4g your bill would be $10 more than mine with a Touch Pro 2 even though we're both on the same Simply Everything Plan using the same EVDO/3g network. (pretend I only have one line)

tadda said:
Geez... again I don't think you see my point. Let me try to rephrase a little bit.
If this $10 surcharge was across every single data-plan regardless of phone I would not be complaining, I would take my lumps and deal with it.
This $10 is for owners of the HTC Evo 4g only. That is my problem.
Example:
So if you lived in my area where there's no 4g, and had an EVO 4g your bill would be $10 more than mine with a Touch Pro 2 even though we're both on the same Simply Everything Plan using the same EVDO/3g network. (pretend I only have one line)
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Simple answer: Think of it as an "EVO 4G" fee.

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Simple answer: Think of it as an "EVO 4G" fee.
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I guess if that's the way you wanna see it that's the way you will see it. Unfortuantely I don't see it that way. Again... if it was across the board for everyone on the simply everything plan I wouldn't even be posting right now.

tadda said:
I guess if that's the way you wanna see it that's the way you will see it. Unfortuantely I don't see it that way. Again... if it was across the board for everyone on the simply everything plan I wouldn't even be posting right now.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ATampT-caps-phone-data-usage-apf-499602515.html?x=0&.v=7
Again, not happy about the +$10, but it's hella better than that...
It all boils down to you're gonna pay for it because....you WILL pay for it. Sprint knows it's still a better deal. Is it fair? Maybe not -- but you're still buying the phone...

tadda said:
I guess if that's the way you wanna see it that's the way you will see it. Unfortuantely I don't see it that way. Again... if it was across the board for everyone on the simply everything plan I wouldn't even be posting right now.
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You can choose to whine about it, but I doubt very much you will pass on the EVO 4G because of $10.

tadda said:
I have a problem with paying an extra $10 per month. I already pay them $160 per month (about) for my family "unlimited" plan. 4G isn't even in my state! I planned on buying the phone out of contract... they are not subsidizing my phone in any way.
You can say "well you should be thankful it's not xxxx amount because that's what yyyyyy carrier charges you". Yeah well I'm not with yyyyyy carrier I'm with Sprint. If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
If I keep my Touch Pro 2 I don't have to pay this surcharge.... if I buy this new phone that they want people to buy it will cost me an extra $120 per year for the same service i'm already getting. Most I've burned through is about 10 GB's per month under my current "unlimited" plan and never been charged extra.
Make sense to you? Not to me.
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Hey Tadda why don't you go to your facebook page and cry. Don't buy the F****N phone and stay the **LL off this board.

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the 10$ extra isnt for 4G..
Sprint looks at it like this, You just bought a bad ass phone, and your gonna wanna see what it can do. so your gonna start using WAY MORE DATA now.. 10$ for unlimited data.. or 30 from AT&T .. your choice..
And if you wanna see the price difference go to att.com and look at the prices. Stop arguing like a bunch of girls.

Are we still on this $10.00 a month?
Let's see AT&T so far has removed for new users the unlimited plan. Charges $15 for 200MB or $25 for 2GB. It's like they are pushing for people to find their local Starbucks to do their surfing.
$69.99 - Unlimited everything mobile to mobile + 450 mins anywhere. No roaming.
$10.00 for 4G phone which in return gives 5GB(cap) that has not been really enforced when you go over a few GB's or 4GB Unlimited. Can't have a WiMax Hotspot and CAP the speeds.
Free Telenav Sprint NAV turn by turn usually a $10.00 a month feature on AT&T.
So for $79.99 you get all of that and then some.
AT&T for the most part charges:
$69.99 unlimited talk
$20.00 unlimited text
$30.00 Unlimited capped data at 5GB not $25.00 for 2GB
$10.00 for TeleNav
So for $129.99 a month you get AT&T.
If you want to get apples to apples then we can go to the Simply Everything plan which is $99.99 and it gives you unlimited everything + $10.00 4G and you have $109.00 with Unlimited Calls to Mobile and Landlines.
With Verizon you have:
$69.99 unlimited talk
$20.00 unlimited text
$29.99 unlimited data - not to include enterprise data such as blackberry
$44.99 unlimited Enterprise Data
As you can see the Sprint has no caps on data like the other two. So how can one really complain about the pricing. It's a BIG difference and to have all these people and mags complain about $10.00 is a JOKE!
I hope to be happy with my Sprint Service. I don't like change often but I am willing to make the leap.

What your not considering is what if you DON'T NEED unlimited voice minutes? It's great that Sprint is cheaper when comparing unlimited plans, but I for one, only use 200-400 mins a month total between 2 lines. So a 550 family plan with AT&T is just fine, I don't need unlimited with Sprint or even the 1500 minutes there giving us with the Evo's. I would rather pay Sprint less, since I will be using less. But they force you into a Everything plan for smartphones.
All carriers have their ups and downs.
AT&T has the fastest 3g network, but poor coverage/prices
Verizon has the largest 3g network, but poor prices
Tmobile has...umm..good prices
Sprint has good network, good prices, poor phone choices.
With Sprints Evo tax, we save ~10.00 dollars a month switching from AT&T with our current 2 x 3gs's. That is not a lot of money to save, especially since AT&T's data speeds are about twice as fast as Sprints in this area. So the Evo tax is a big deal. We have a pre-order in, I am extremely excited, we will test them out, and if we both like them, we will switch. But if they disappoint like the Pre's did, then they go back and we will keep our iphones.
Now if Sprint didn't charge the Evo tax, we would save 30.00 a month. With that kind of savings, we could accept a few snags here and there and would for sure dump AT&T.

notown775 said:
the 10$ extra isnt for 4G..
Sprint looks at it like this, You just bought a bad ass phone, and your gonna wanna see what it can do. so your gonna start using WAY MORE DATA now.. 10$ for unlimited data.. or 30 from AT&T .. your choice..
And if you wanna see the price difference go to att.com and look at the prices. Stop arguing like a bunch of girls.
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I think that's Sprint's point too.... This phone WILL use more data

DroidX is $199 and $70/mo without the $10/mo "premium data" fee

Hrmmm I never thought I'd see the day where Sprint was nickel and diming its customers more than Verizon (the king of overpricing) on a similar high end phone but I guess today's the day. $70/mo vs $80/mo - $240 more over a 2 yr period...
Gizmodo, the Gadget Guide
4g wont be in my area for awhile (Inland Empire, CA) and I probably woupdnt use it anyways due to battery drain so is there any real reason to get the Evo over the DroidX?
If anything I hope this gets Sprint to drop the fee. Competition is great

Cheapest Verizon plan with unlimited data/text is $90/month. Not including the unlimited mobile-to-mobile that you get with Sprint.

What does the $70 Verizon plan include? Is it unlimited everything like Sprint?

ap3604 said:
If anything I hope this gets Sprint to drop the fee. Competition is great
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You can hope all you want, but in reality Verizon still has data limits and Sprint doesn't.

Vandam500 said:
What does the $70 Verizon plan include? Is it unlimited everything like Sprint?
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NOPE !! sure don't

TheBiles said:
Cheapest Verizon plan with unlimited data/text is $90/month. Not including the unlimited mobile-to-mobile that you get with Sprint.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I will be paying $91 with everything unlimited and with insurance. Sprint > Verizon

Hardware wise, the Evo is still superior to the Droid X. Also as far as I know, Sense is better then Blur too

I have the HTC Incredible and I can tell you that its not $70.00 so I am not sure where the nickle and dime statement would fit.
$69.99 for unlimited mobile to mobile.
$29.99 for 5Gig 3G and if verizon has anything to say about it - $44.99 for the enterprise data package which they sell to Smart Phones who want Exchange access and Blackberry.
$20.00 unlimited text.
Let's see lets round up for ease. $70+30+20 = $120.00 - sure doesn't seem to be $70.00 to me.

Vandam500 said:
Exactly what I was thinking. I will be paying $91 with everything unlimited and with insurance. Sprint > Verizon
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atm i have 5 phones unlimited everything + insurance on all i pay 169 a month
yea at&t and verizon BEAT THAT

lol
Standard unlimited $30 data plan; $20 extra for mobile hotspot powers which comes with 2GB. Another $20 nets you an extra 2GB of data a month.

TheBiles; said:
Cheapest Verizon plan with unlimited data/text is $90/month
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Well since Google Voice just opened up for everyone the $90/mo argument is moot since you get text messaging for free.

ap3604 said:
Well since Google Voice just opened up for everyone the $90/mo argument is moot since you get text messaging for free.
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Meh. Google Voice is nice but I still prefer the carrier's texting plan

not for nuthin, but if you want to compare apples to apples here, verizon is more expensive because their basic plan (the you're referencing) doesn't include text messaging. once you include the unlimited messaging (which is included on Sprint), Verizon is $90/month vs Sprint's $80/month. Sprint also allows you unlimited calling to ANY cell phone in the US on ANY carrier at no extra charge - with verizon you're limited to just other verizon cell phones.
Although Verizon's hotspot feature is $10 cheaper per month...

VZW's hotspot is cheaper, but it's not unlimited.

ap3604 said:
Well since Google Voice just opened up for everyone the $90/mo argument is moot since you get text messaging for free.
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no mms though.
i prefer email instead. most my friends use it instead of text msg.

madsquabbles said:
no mms though.
i prefer email instead. most my friends use it instead of text msg.
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Yeah me too
The only thing I care about is just 500 min + 5gb data at the cheapest price.
Everything else (text, visual voicemail, etc) is taken care of by by Google Voice for free.

ap3604 said:
Yeah me too
The only thing I care about is just 500 min + 5gb data at the cheapest price.
Everything else (text, visual voicemail, etc) is taken care of by by Google Voice for free.
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5GB of data is nothing at all. I will take $10 more for truly unlimited data plus all of the other unlimited things without having to rely on Google Voice.

TheBiles said:
5GB of data is nothing at all. I will take $10 more for truly unlimited data plus all of the other unlimited things without having to rely on Google Voice.
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I'm glad to hear!
The main people that this thread will help is the ones who are pissed about the fee (i.e. not you ) so I wanted to let them know the news before their 30 day return policy expires.
If anything the Evo forum should LOVE this thread since it will get the $10 fee whiners away from the forum and switched to the DroidX forum where they can complain...

ap3604 said:
I'm glad to hear!
The main people that this thread will help is the ones who are pissed about the fee (i.e. not you ) so I wanted to let them know the news before their 30 day return policy expires.
If anything the Evo forum should LOVE this thread since it will get the $10 fee whiners away from the forum and switched to the DroidX forum where they can complain...
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Oh, believe me, I was and still am pissed about the fee, but I'm not about to jump to a ****ty plan for $10 less just to make up for it.

get on the everything plus referral plan and it's 59.99 + 10 premium fee.

Sprint offered me new plan for Evo--Simply Everything 500

So I bought my evo off of my wife's family plan she shares with her side of her family. She added her brother, so he said that he would give me the evo for the hero. Fair trade in my eye . So I call sprint last night and the rep says that they have a better plan called Simply Everything 500--500 minutes instead of 450 and $59 instead of $69. Now they still add the $10. So essentially my plan is $69 (w/the $10 inculded) with 500 min. and everything else the same. He mentioned that they will be switching people over to it without them knowing. Don't know how, but anyway. I thought it was a good deal so I took it. Now I just wonder will I still get my $20 a month credit and 15% discount back on there? Yes my plan after taxes will be about $54/month. That's why I love sprint.
Anyone else here of this plan?

Interesting..would like to know more about this.

thats just the "new" sero plan.
you won't get any discounts on it.
better off getting the regular plan and getting your discounts applied

Did some research and found out that this plan is called the Everything Plus 500 which use to be called the SERO plan. I had SERO for years before they said that you can't get it with the hero. Now I'm back on it!!! Hell yeah.
Wait a minute just thought of something, when I got the Hero I had a choice between this Everything Plus 500 and the Simply Everything for $69.99. The only real difference was that you couldn't get any discounts on the Everything Plus 500 plans, only discounts were applied to the Simply Everything plans. guess I have to call sprint back and see if I keep my discounts or revert me back to my old Simply everything 450 plan for $79 (but prob. total $65 after discounts added).

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thats just the "new" sero plan.
you won't get any discounts on it.
better off getting the regular plan and getting your discounts applied
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You're right. I just did the math and I would end up paying more on the Plus 500 plan. Gonna call Sprint right now and get this reverted back. That $20 credit a month is a great thing

unknown_owner said:
You're right. I just did the math and I would end up paying more on the Plus 500 plan. Gonna call Sprint right now and get this reverted back. That $20 credit a month is a great thing
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I had to do the same thing. We had an Everything Plus family 1600 plan for $109 but we lost our 25% discount. I ended up changing it to the regular version of this (with only 1500 minutes) for $129 so the discount would apply.
I went back and forth with them for a while because for the first 3 months they kept the discount on that Plus plan. Ive ALWAYS had discounts with my old SERO plans event hough they claim you cant. Out of the blue they removed my 25%, and I had no choice but to switch plans.

Don't forget on the eprp plans you get WiFi tethering for $20 not $30
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unknown_owner said:
You're right. I just did the math and I would end up paying more on the Plus 500 plan. Gonna call Sprint right now and get this reverted back. That $20 credit a month is a great thing
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It is called Everything Plus 500; it is the new Sprint Sprint Employee plan after the SERO price jack 2+ years ago. There is NO chance/NO possibility that you will get any sort of % employee/corporate discount.
However, if you were promised $20 or $10 credit, you may be able to get it reapplied if you fight for it.
For most people Everything Data 450 is cheaper after employee discount.

$89.99 for two simply everything lines w/1200 anytime minutes per line, unlimited web, unlimited text messages, unlimited mobile-to-mobile. Add $10 for the EVO service. I'm still cheaper than an Iphone plan on one line.

jerryparid said:
It is called Everything Plus 500; it is the new Sprint Sprint Employee plan after the SERO price jack 2+ years ago. There is NO chance/NO possibility that you will get any sort of % employee/corporate discount.
However, if you were promised $20 or $10 credit, you may be able to get it reapplied if you fight for it.
For most people Everything Data 450 is cheaper after employee discount.
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man I hope this doesn't turn into" sorry Sir" and a whole bunch of excuses. I remember a sprint employee in a store one time said that they must be crediting me the 20 because he didn't see the discount on my account

warmachine69 said:
$89.99 for two simply everything lines w/1200 anytime minutes per line, unlimited web, unlimited text messages, unlimited mobile-to-mobile. Add $10 for the EVO service. I'm still cheaper than an Iphone plan on one line.
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evo for 65/mth after ins., taxes, and fees is great for me

Monthly bill with unlocked nexus s

Hey guys I know that the bill is cheaper bit searching I can not find anything current how much cheaper

BrianDigital said:
Hey guys I know that the bill is cheaper bit searching I can not find anything current how much cheaper
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It's $20 per month cheaper IF you get your plan switched to the Even More Plus contract-free plan.
It's not cheaper automatically, as far as I know, if you're on a current contract rate and don't ask for the change...

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It's $20 per month cheaper IF you get your plan switched to the Even More Plus contract-free plan.
It's not cheaper automatically, as far as I know, if you're on a current contract rate and don't ask for the change...
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i would be coming into tmobile with no contract so it would not be cheaper

BrianDigital said:
i would be coming into tmobile with no contract so it would not be cheaper
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No, it would be cheaper.
If you're not currently a T-Mobile customer, and you buy the phone contract free and at an unsubsidized price, you can ask for the Even More Plus plan, and you will get a rate that is $20 per month cheaper than people who buy the phone for $199 with a two year contract pay per month.
The Even More Plus plan is not available online any more, you have to go into a T-Mo store and ask for it specifically... I'm not sure Best Buy can/will offer it to you.
What I did with my Nexus One was go into a T-Mo store and buy the sim card before my phone even came in, then just plugged the sim into the phone when it was delivered.

I pay $59.99/mo for 500 talk minutes, unlimited text and unlimited web AND I'm not tied to any contract (well other than the monthly contract). You still get free nights and weekends and all that good stuff.
No reason to not buy the phone at full price and unsubsidized, unless you don't want to fork over $580 all at once. In the long run it's a better deal.

irishrally said:
I pay $59.99/mo for 500 talk minutes, unlimited text and unlimited web AND I'm not tied to any contract (well other than the monthly contract). You still get free nights and weekends and all that good stuff.
No reason to not buy the phone at full price and unsubsidized, unless you don't want to fork over $580 all at once. In the long run it's a better deal.
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This
also $59 off contract and when on contract it comes to $79

demo23019 said:
This
also $59 off contract and when on contract it comes to $79
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Nice so the data only sim will be like thirty a month, On sprint I use about 60 minutes a month(data is another issue) and with gizmo5 and gv is going to be how I make my few random cell phone calls

distortedloop is correct; T-Mobile's pricing is such that plans are marginally less expensive if you are not on contract.

BrianDigital said:
Hey guys I know that the bill is cheaper bit searching I can not find anything current how much cheaper
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Just so you know, ALL Nexus S's are sold unlocked. The word you're looking for is "unsubsidized", or full price.
People have been saying that Even More Plus (no contract) plans are $20/month cheaper than Even More (contract) plans. This is only partially true. The Phone+Text+Data plans are $20/month cheaper. Phone+Text (no data) plans, and data only plans, are $10/month cheaper.
The general Even More Plus plans are not available online (with the exception of the data only plan which I linked above). You'd need to go to a T-Mobile store (or call customer service) to get the general EM+ plan.

demo23019 said:
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+1, yes you will save in the long run
I was in a loyalty unlimited plan ($84.99) for 2 years with my G1. Wanted to save more in the long run so I opted for the "non-contract" Even More Plus Plan ($59.99). I had to call Customer Care to be able to change my loyalty unlimited plan. So in 2 years similar to signing a 2 year cotnract, I save $250.
Like others suggested, buy the sim card for the Even More "Plus" plan for $59.99
and just buy the phone outright.

Even More Plus is really only beneficial for single lines. If you have more than one, it's not worth it.

HotShotAzn said:
Even More Plus is really only beneficial for single lines. If you have more than one, it's not worth it.
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Why's that? The cheapest Talk+Text+UnlWeb family plan is $30/month cheaper on EM+ than on EM. And the savings increast with the higher-minute plans.

where are you guys seeing EMP plans? i thought t-mobile got rid of them, i certainly can't find it on their site.

I'm still in contract with my G1 plan. $79.99 with unlimited talk/text/data.

bcl0328 said:
where are you guys seeing EMP plans? i thought t-mobile got rid of them, i certainly can't find it on their site.
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they don't, you have to call Customer Care and ask for it, I believe they are being phased out

Nexus MC said:
they don't, you have to call Customer Care and ask for it, I believe they are being phased out
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I work at a T-Mobile COR store and this seems to be the plan in the next few months.

ichan444 said:
I work at a T-Mobile COR store and this seems to be the plan in the next few months.
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I'm actually surprised that T-Mobile is still offering it. I would have thought they stopped offering them as of now.

ravidavi said:
Why's that? The cheapest Talk+Text+UnlWeb family plan is $30/month cheaper on EM+ than on EM. And the savings increast with the higher-minute plans.
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Current Plan:
Even More 1500: $79.99
Data Plan (2): $40
Unlimited Family Messaging: $20
Two phones: Free til 2012
Total: $140
Even More Plus 1500: $119.99
Data Plan (2): Included
Unlimited Family Messaging: Included
Two phones: $10
Total: $130.00
That's only $10 a month cheaper for EMP. When I have to start paying the other two lines, it'll be $20 a month cheaper...which is the general consensus that EMP saves ($20/month).
$20 a month for 22 months = $440.
Now go to upgrade your phones. I need two smart phones and two regular phones.
Even more: Free (2 Vibrants, 2 Gravity T)
Even more plus: 2 Vibrants at retail ($400? each) and 2 Gravity T at retail ($175? each) = $1150 (this may be a high estimate) - $440 (savings) = $710
The difference I save each month on EMP does not offset the price I have to pay to buy phones outright.

BrianDigital said:
Nice so the data only sim will be like thirty a month, On sprint I use about 60 minutes a month(data is another issue) and with gizmo5 and gv is going to be how I make my few random cell phone calls
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Data only sim is $50. It used to be $30

HotShotAzn said:
Current Plan:
Even More 1500: $79.99
Data Plan (2): $40
Unlimited Family Messaging: $20
Two phones: Free til 2012
Total: $140
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I must be missing something. On T-Mobile's website, the EM1500 plan with unlimited txt + data is $160/month. Is your plan maybe part of some special? Or do you have 4 of the $10/month (200MB cap) data plans?
From your description, it's tough to tell whether you have 4 lines or 2 (since you say "once I have to start paying for 2 lines").
I realize we're kinda sidetracking the main thread here ... I'm just curious about your plan for some reason.

$10 data plan...

so I had Tmo Shadow data plan for $10 bucks, and recently switched to MyTouch 4G and obviously lost internet, Tmo rep upgraded my plan to 5GB data and looks like I am still paying $10 bucks.

Might "look" that way, wait till the bill comes though... don't get the 5GB plan. the 2GB plan is more than enough. Just connect to wifi while you're home. I have 2 GB and don't even use half of it.
Hit Thanks if this helped.

kolyan said:
so I had Tmo Shadow data plan for $10 bucks, and recently switched to MyTouch 4G and obviously lost internet, Tmo rep upgraded my plan to 5GB data and looks like I am still paying $10 bucks.
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Are you referring to web2go? The MT4G isn't supposed to be compatible with the web2go.
Can you log into my.t-mobile.com and find out what they have you at?

jalaram said:
Are you referring to web2go? The MT4G isn't supposed to be compatible with the web2go.
Can you log into my.t-mobile.com and find out what they have you at?
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yes. i had web2go on Nexus. bought MyTouch 4G (used) and could not connect to internet, called tmobile and they switched me to 5GB data plan for the same price, at least thats what rep said.....and i asked him twice to make sure there are no additional costs. my plan at tmobile.com is 500 min + 5GB 4G data for $39 bucks. This month is prorated so its not 100% clear. Its still $39 bucks, but data is split 8 bucks of web2go and 3 bucks on 4G web

kolyan said:
so I had Tmo Shadow data plan for $10 bucks, and recently switched to MyTouch 4G and obviously lost internet, Tmo rep upgraded my plan to 5GB data and looks like I am still paying $10 bucks.
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What did you tell them exactly to get this deal? Thanks.

I have something similar. My sensation (international version) didn't work, so I was going to get the Android Preferred but I didn't want to extend my plan 2 years because of AT&T. They gave me $10/month off for taking the Android Preferred with 2 years extension... - okay, I checked and this shows up as credit adjustment under the main family account

kolyan said:
yes. i had web2go on Nexus. bought MyTouch 4G (used) and could not connect to internet, called tmobile and they switched me to 5GB data plan for the same price, at least thats what rep said.....and i asked him twice to make sure there are no additional costs. my plan at tmobile.com is 500 min + 5GB 4G data for $39 bucks. This month is prorated so its not 100% clear. Its still $39 bucks, but data is split 8 bucks of web2go and 3 bucks on 4G web
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I asked too and after consulting a manager the rep offered 5GB for $25 a month. (Its usually more). I just took the 200MB plan. ($10)
You're lucky

Well not that lucky. Turned out that rep LIED to me. (I asked him many times if I will still be paying $10 for my 5gb data and he said yes) 1st month I did end up paying $10 bucks, but 2nd month they charged me $25. I called them up and they refunded me $15 bucks and I also had to switch to Valve plan with 2-year contract. Now I get 2GB data for $10 bucks. My bill used to be $40 with 5GB and now its $45 with 2GB. (i only use 1.5-2.0GB max though)
I was pretty pissed....not really because I had to switch, but because of that STUPID rep.

never agree to the solutions they offer. Always ask them to fix the problem and remove whatever they added to your account.
then go to the store and start over. the "fixing" is always good on their end. it's on the books. you just agreed to a 2yr contrat w/out even a free phone

gcbxda said:
never agree to the solutions they offer. Always ask them to fix the problem and remove whatever they added to your account.
then go to the store and start over. the "fixing" is always good on their end. it's on the books. you just agreed to a 2yr contrat w/out even a free phone
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For me there was no other solution, and there was no contract either. $10 200MB and then "unlimited" 2G

britoso said:
For me there was no other solution, and there was no contract either. $10 200MB and then "unlimited" 2G
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Correction, the T-mobile rep LIED to me too. Even after I repeatedly verified. There are overage charges on the $10 data plan. (They removed it for me after I called, but only once)
There are no overages only if you are on the "Value" or "Classic" plans. I am on the old even-more-plus no-contract plan.
Note: Only the classic plan lets you get a subsidised phone. And switching to "value" or "classic" both require a 2 year contract.
Sad t-mobile, sad.

I dont know where people get that Tmobile is #1 in customer service.....every single time I call its a lie after lie......followed by another lie

They are usually nice on the phone...compared to att. No other carrier can match their rates either.
(5 lines, 1000 min , 3 lines with 2GB high speed data then unlimited 2G for $95/month)