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Dear Community.
I've one question...
HTC has a lot of Android phones in their product line...
Magic, Hero, Tatoo
But what is the big difference between them?
I only know that Hero and Tatoo have little bit more Ram and an other UI.
But is it worth to buy a Tatoo in stead of an Magic?
thanks
Terrorhuhn
Terrorhuhn said:
Dear Community.
I've one question...
HTC has a lot of Android phones in their product line...
Magic, Hero, Tatoo
But what is the big difference between them?
I only know that Hero and Tatoo have little bit more Ram and an other UI.
But is it worth to buy a Tatoo in stead of an Magic?
thanks
Terrorhuhn
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I'm not an expert of testing different phones. But here's my short review anyway. There are no huge differences, though the Hero doesn't upgrade to OS 1.6 yet.
I'll start with the Magic.
The Magic has two version, the 32B and 32A.
To summarize that, the 32A is a little "faster" can load more apps and used OS 1.5 but now upgraded to 1.6. Big disadvantages are having no 3.5 mm jack for audio, bad camera and multimedia support.
The Hero has the nice Sense UI (Rosie) but might have little lag on homescreen once you put more applications on it etc.. One of the neat things is the fingerprint-resistant coating so you don't have to clean it over and over like the Magic.
The Tattoo runs 1.6 and is much like Hero because of the Sense UI and it is much faster with booting. The design fits better in one hand because it's more round shaped. Disadvantage is the smaller screen.
You can modify any of these phones to your taste. But I think HTC has done a great job with Tattoo. The Dream & Magic are also good phones, but if you plan not to mod the phone I'd say Tattoo.
Just my opinion with some facts. The choice is up to you.
All Android phones are cool.
i could live with the small screen as a pocket suitable phone but the screen of the tattoo is only a resistive screen instead of a capacitive screen. Which is a big disadvantage.
What about the TMobile MyTouch 3G?
Where does the TMobile MyTouch 3G fit in with all of that?
And why does the description on this board only say "also known as HTC Magic" but not "also known as TMobile MyTouch 3G"?
Thanks for reply.
I would flash roms to my phone, so the UI differences are not so importand for me...
But when I do a comparison between... Hero and Magic (Magic has a Rom with Sense ui)
Am I right if I say they are then very similar??
greets
Terrorhuhn said:
Thanks for reply.
I would flash roms to my phone, so the UI differences are not so importand for me...
But when I do a comparison between... Hero and Magic (Magic has a Rom with Sense ui)
Am I right if I say they are then very similar??
greets
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Well, if you get a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G or some models from Vodafone also means you'll get PVT32B version with 192MB ram. And that isn't really good enough for a HTC Hero Rom. It would eventually lag (slow down) even with swap. PVT32A has 288MB ram FYI. There are pretty good Roms for this one, but from my experience with using Android phones I've never had problems with android 1.6 donut and 2.0 eclair. You can modify them a lot to make it look like the Sense UI if you really want to. Or ofcourse just get the HTC Hero...
shoemeistah said:
The Hero has the nice Sense UI (Rosie) but might have little lag on homescreen once you put more applications on it etc.. One of the neat things is the fingerprint-resistant coating so you don't have to clean it over and over like the Magic.
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I thought HTC already released an update to fix any lag on the phone.
phil_white99 said:
Where does the TMobile MyTouch 3G fit in with all of that?
And why does the description on this board only say "also known as HTC Magic" but not "also known as TMobile MyTouch 3G"?
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The mt3g is the same
the reason it say also known as the magic is because that is the real name of htc's phone
they use sapphire because thats what its called in the coding
the mt3g is just what tmobile decided to call it because they seem to be the only one's with a contract to switch htc's names (htc now wants to brand themselves so we'll see how much longer that last)...
the difference in the names really doesnt matter... it come down to what type of board you have 32a/32b
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I thought HTC already released an update to fix any lag on the phone.
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Yes that might be.
I'm not that up to date with the Hero, I heard people have had problems with it and not sure if that's fixed by now, that's why I said 'might'.
Other than that what about the motorola droid, that looks good, all metal casing.
Radio differences
pack: Thanks for the reply!
I suppose there are radio differences too since there seems to be a lot of variation in how carriers handle 3G, at least in terms of frequencies used. TMobile and AT&T in the US do 3G differently and it seems that carriers in Europe and Asia have other ways. I don't know, though, if each 3G carrier's version of the Sapphire has an internal name at HTC for differentiation.
It would be great, though, if HTC started coming out with phones that had radios capable of being used on any GSM network, including data at 3G speeds, because everyone I know in the US with a 3G phone that was unlocked and moved from TMobile to AT&T, or vice versa, has to live with 2G data speeds on the other network. Is this the case in Europe too when switching between carriers or moving between countries? Or has 3G data been standardized there?
I would not recommend the Tattoo simply based on it's resistive screen.
The HTC Hero is the best Android offering so far from HTC. If you can get your hands on a HTC Magic 32A version it's just about identical hardware-wise to an HTC Hero.
okay i just got my myTouch3G and i see this 32a 32b all this randomness....can someone help me figure out which version i have?
btw im not a noob to xda....im just a noob to mytouches/saffires....my g1 broke and t-mobile said full discount upgrade and i jumped on the occasion
all google branded phones, like the mytouch have a 32B board. All htc branded have a 32A board. 32B has 192MB of Ram while the 32A have 288MB. HTC branded phones are faster because of this, and with running Hero roms because the hero phones have 288MB. So if you run a hero rom on the mytouch, it will not be as snappy.
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all google branded phones, like the mytouch have a 32B board. All htc branded have a 32A board. 32B has 192MB of Ram while the 32A have 288MB. HTC branded phones are faster because of this, and with running Hero roms because the hero phones have 288MB. So if you run a hero rom on the mytouch, it will not be as snappy.
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thanks for the help and clarification bro um i actually already rooted and customed...um another question how do i set up adb considering how the mytouch has no keyboard and apparently its necessary to use adb to do things like hero rom'ing
you don't need a keyboard to do adb. you just hook it up to your computer and you run adb commands from there. terminal needs a keyboard, but if you just hold down the menu button, the keyboard pops up. if you are in the recovery image, you can still do adb because you don't need a phone keyboard, just the computer's.
why do you think the keyboard is necessary for hero rom'ing. I don't exactly understand what you meant by that.
HI guys,
looking to sell my iphone and come back to HTC!!!
wondering if there any big difference between the magic capabilities to the hero?
can the hero's rom be fully flashed to the magic? is there anything the hero can do the magic cant?
i really like the hero features but love the magic's look
thanks for your help
Well
There are two different variations of the magic
32A and 32B
The 32A is similar to the HERO, it has the sense interface like the Hero and
quote me if im wrong but i think the hardward is pretty much the same
(memory amounts etc.)
The 32B has less memory than the 32A and hero, for this reason and licencing
issues (phone is google branded version) HTC has not released an official Sense upgrade for it, and will not.
If i were you i would get a hero, HTC have already anounced they are
working on an offcial upgrade to Android 2.0 for the device.
There is also a chance the magic, both variation, will not get an upgrade (official anyway) to android 2.0, saying that cyanogen will more than likely
bring out an awsome 2.0 rom for the magics.
To sum up, if you decide to get a Magic make sure you get one of the 32A
one, if you decide to get a Hero....well....get a hero.. ;-)
just broke my phone, and now need to get either a dream or sapphire. but had some questions
dose the cam work on 2.0/ 2.0.1/droid or hero
dose the hero rom lag like it dose on the g1?
and when rooting do you have to use ADB because there is no keyboard?
thanks for any help on this.
Get a hero or droid
haha
just get a droid or a hero bro. Unless you're cool running cyan or some other 1.6-2.0 rom. Any hero on my mytouch hasnt proven to be a daily user. albeit im a novice at best, but if you're asking then i would assume you're no pro.
My two cents
there are several hero roms that are daily users here. The only problem is, it is not going to be as snappy as a modded-stock rom like Cyanogen. If you set your phone up right, there is no reason why most of these roms could not be daily users.
Qtek and Ttran001 have great 32B roms IMO that are great for daily use.
wouldnt say im a pro, just dont have the time anymore to keep up on everything, but i have been flashin roms on the g1 since the beginning. never got onto the sapphire boards, so just tryin to get some more info before i decide.
what i know is that the Sapphire has more ram than the g1 so that makes me wonder about the speed. I noticed that on some roms they dont use Swap when they are used with the 32a.
just wonderin more on what changes from one to another.
the 32B has the same ram as the G1. The 32A has the same ram as the Hero. That's why there is no need for the linux swap.
It all depends on the phone you are going to get. MyTouch and Google Ion, etc. are 32B. HTC Magic's are 32A.
ok well i guess the big question is dose the cam work on 2.0 roms?
im guessing that the cams are both the same but was looking at a 2.0 rom made for the sapphire only and it didnt say that it didnt work.
G1 or Sapphire
Is the sapphire as good as the dream as far as capabilities. I had a G1 and loved it but unfortunately i dropped it off a roof at work. I was pretty familiar with all the featres and was using a Cyan ROM. Is the sapphire as versatile as the Dream?
2.01 roms on saphire
I have been using manups 2.01 eclair rom on my saphire 32b for about a week now and have been quite surprised at the speed and funcitonality differences. Unfortunatly the camera does not work, but i am sure manup will fix this. But overall I am very happy with the saphire/mytouch.
i recommend the magic to you, it's just so much better looking than the dream. to help you with your rom questions: it's only a matter of time, til the first 2.0 oder 2.1 rom, which supports camera and all the other beautiful features, will be released. for now, i've been using "crusorsense"-rom (a sense-ui/"hero" rom) for about three weeks. it's the best rom i've ever seen! battery life and performance are even better than while using orignal rom.
There isn't any Android 2.0+ camera or bluetooth driver for the Sapphire yet. And we probably have to wait for a HTC update with those before any developers will make these work.
But why not get a NexusOne or a Droid instead ?
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there are several hero roms that are daily users here. The only problem is, it is not going to be as snappy as a modded-stock rom like Cyanogen. If you set your phone up right, there is no reason why most of these roms could not be daily users.
Qtek and Ttran001 have great 32B roms IMO that are great for daily use.
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It depends what you expect from daily use ... I use bluetooth every day so it makes it impossible for me to use any hero roms.
As for Android 2.0 bluetooth is working and someone has the camera working in the dream development forum, they compiled their own driver using some of the 1.6 binary and a bit of guesswork and got it working, camcorder does not work yet but it won't be long before this makes its way to 2.0 roms (sapphire uses the same driver). The graphics acceleration still sucks though, making it jerky to swipe on launcher screens as well as anything else that uses gpu (which is what is stopping me from moving to a 2.0 rom)
I second what ronni.rasmussen said, why not get a Nexus One or Moto Droid? Or even an HTC Hero or Droid Eris. There are a lot of better handsets out now that leave the dream and sapphire a long way behind in terms of specs.
Btw sorry to be a nitpicking bastard but not all HTC Magic's are not 32A, it depends on where in the world you buy your phone and on what carrier. I have an HTC Magic and it is a 32B.
Hi,
Im planning on buying a HTC Magic off of eBay and I was planning on getting a 32A model because it has more ram.
But I have been reading some threads and I see you can install most of the HTC Dream roms on the 32B Magic.
There would be more roms for me to choose from which would make it the better handset.
Does the extra ram make much different on the 32A Magic ?
So what I want to know if you had to choose which Magic you could have would it be the 32A or 32B and why.
Thanks
I'd say 32A of course, you can't use more than one ROM at a time anyway, so who cares how many there are as long as there's one that's good enough for you
Just make sure you don't get one with HTC's official Sense UI update applied, cause that hasn't been rooted and may never be, so you would be stuck with the stock cupcake + sense UI, probably for good.
PS. don't be fooled by mi sig, yes I run it rooted but you can't achieve that _after_ it's been applied without suitable precautions.
Thanks alot for that info about the HTC official Sense update I hadn't read about that yet.
Just dont buy one by Rogers, lame freakin carrier.
or get an unlocked rogers 32a doesnt matter where its from if its unlocked.
definately get a 32a