Losing Battery Life while Charging - Nexus One General

I currently have my N1 on the charger it started off at 96% when I put it on the charger and it is now currently at 90%. I use process manager to kil all apps so there isn't an app running in the background. Any ideas why this is going on or what to do to fix. And I'm not currently doing anything w/ it its sleeping while this is going on.

I've noticed something similiar while slow charging (500mA or less) and running battery intensive tasks.
For me its while driving, high brightness and GPS with navigation on.
The solution is to use a 1000mA charger.

thank you for the fast response; so is charging with a 200ma destroying my battery?

it won't destroy battery, it'll probably slow down the draining of your battery, due to not enough voltage to charge it.

Well then I'll be making a trip to ebay during my lunch, thank you both for the answers!

200mA is too weak to get any sort of charge into the battery, no wonder it's not charging lol

it charges after it seems to warm up lol

Your are in Cyanogen ROM ?
Because i've the same effect if i plug my N1 with more that 89% ex : 95% and plug the device it discharge down 89% and start the charge up 100%
I read that to avoid overcharging

seppi68 said:
Your are in Cyanogen ROM ?
Because i've the same effect if i plug my N1 with more that 89% ex : 95% and plug the device it discharge down 89% and start the charge up 100%
I read that to avoid overcharging
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+1
It was discussed in some other thread. It's one of the FroYo features that Google committed and so it got to CyanogenMod ROMs, but with no explanation people started thinking that something's wrong with their phones. There isn't anything wrong, it's the programmed behavior, to allow proper battery charging.

Mokurex said:
it won't destroy battery, it'll probably slow down the draining of your battery, due to not enough voltage to charge it.
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Is there any app that shows the rate of current charge?

oh so the battery is supposed to do that, I feel better. Something about getting a charger to throttle my battery didn't seem correct.

Paul22000 said:
Is there any app that shows the rate of current charge?
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I don't know about an app, but the feature is there in the /proc fs and documented, showing the discharging (or charging) current. I can look up the file to read, if needed.

The battery does this on my phone as well. I am on Enom 1.8.1 . Someone in that thread called it a "charging profile" and stated it related to SetCPU. Not sure if this is entirely the case, but it does seem to be somewhat of a nuisane... If I am having to leave and my phone has 90% vs. 100% that makes a big difference.

Jack_R1 said:
I don't know about an app, but the feature is there in the /proc fs and documented, showing the discharging (or charging) current. I can look up the file to read, if needed.
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Yes please, if you can elaborate that would be great. What you just said is 100% Greek to me

Paul22000 said:
Yes please, if you can elaborate that would be great. What you just said is 100% Greek to me
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cat /proc/kmsg
<6>[ 8114.221282] batt: 84%, 4094 mV, 407 mA (424 avg), 32.8 C, 1145 mAh
<6>[ 8164.323425] batt: 84%, 4094 mV, 393 mA (406 avg), 32.3 C, 1150 mAh
<6>[ 8214.432891] batt: 85%, 4099 mV, 398 mA (390 avg), 32.1 C, 1155 mAh
<6>[ 8264.556091] batt: 85%, 4099 mV, 387 mA (389 avg), 32.1 C, 1161 mAh
<6>[ 8314.664123] batt: 86%, 4099 mV, 379 mA (376 avg), 32.1 C, 1166 mAh
<6>[ 8364.775878] batt: 86%, 4099 mV, 355 mA (366 avg), 32.1 C, 1171 mAh
<6>[ 8414.877532] batt: 86%, 4104 mV, 361 mA (358 avg), 32.2 C, 1176 mAh
<6>[ 8464.992004] batt: 87%, 4104 mV, 351 mA (354 avg), 32.3 C, 1182 mAh
<6>[ 8515.099823] batt: 87%, 4104 mV, 347 mA (350 avg), 32.3 C, 1185 mAh
<6>[ 8565.202026] batt: 88%, 4109 mV, 333 mA (339 avg), 32.3 C, 1190 mAh
<6>[ 8615.312042] batt: 88%, 4114 mV, 331 mA (336 avg), 32.5 C, 1195 mAh
<6>[ 8665.415405] batt: 88%, 4114 mV, 319 mA (327 avg), 32.6 C, 1200 mAh
<6>[ 8715.517150] batt: 88%, 4114 mV, 316 mA (320 avg), 32.6 C, 1204 mAh
<6>[ 8765.622741] batt: 89%, 4114 mV, 300 mA (301 avg), 32.6 C, 1208 mAh
<6>[ 8815.731414] batt: 89%, 4118 mV, 305 mA (298 avg), 32.6 C, 1212 mAh
<6>[ 8865.838531] batt: 89%, 4118 mV, 298 mA (300 avg), 32.7 C, 1217 mAh
<6>[ 8915.956298] batt: 89%, 4118 mV, 292 mA (287 avg), 32.8 C, 1220 mAh
Also install "spare parts" and go to battery info, that will tell you if the phone thinks its on AC or USB charger, some AC chargers are detected as USB and the phone limits the charging current. The middle data connections need to be shorted for the phone to use full charging current and detect charger as an AC one.

so it worth getting a higher output charger or not?

scote said:
cat /proc/kmsg
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Aha! I was searching on Google for /proc/fs for a while and couldn't find anything useful. No wonder!
Anyway, how do you get such nice output?
Here's what I get:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Ah, even better than /proc/kmsg! -
dmesg!
Then pipe it to grep!!!
[Edit]: Even better!
dmesg | grep batt > /sdcard/dmesg.txt
I found this interesting, charging via USB actually gives a "SLOW" message:
[372270.210327] batt: 60%, 3830 mV, -324 mA (-310 avg), 34.3 C, 788 mAh
[372320.319946] batt: 59%, 3840 mV, -161 mA (-263 avg), 34.3 C, 784 mAh
[372370.431915] batt: 59%, 3820 mV, -357 mA (-285 avg), 34.8 C, 780 mAh
[372429.495025] batt: 59%, 3840 mV, -203 mA (-243 avg), 34.7 C, 777 mAh
[372479.622131] batt: 59%, 3825 mV, -307 mA (-292 avg), 34.7 C, 772 mAh
[372529.769104] batt: 58%, 3825 mV, -321 mA (-246 avg), 34.6 C, 769 mAh
[372587.565826] batt: 58%, 3825 mV, -355 mA (-272 avg), 34.8 C, 764 mAh
[372637.720367] batt: 58%, 3845 mV, -61 mA (-212 avg), 34.7 C, 761 mAh
[372672.512237] batt: 57%, 3855 mV, -3 mA (-21 avg), 33.8 C, 760 mAh
[372677.114349] batt: 57%, 3859 mV, -3 mA (-4 avg), 33.1 C, 760 mAh
[372683.197692] batt: charging SLOW
[372692.734466] batt: 57%, 3884 mV, 199 mA (29 avg), 32.3 C, 760 mAh
[372742.861999] batt: 58%, 3874 mV, 214 mA (183 avg), 32.3 C, 761 mAh
[372792.981353] batt: 58%, 3889 mV, 165 mA (145 avg), 32.3 C, 763 mAh
[372843.105316] batt: 58%, 3894 mV, 208 mA (175 avg), 32.3 C, 766 mAh
[372895.235778] batt: 58%, 3889 mV, 225 mA (177 avg), 32.3 C, 768 mAh
[372945.352020] batt: 59%, 3894 mV, 141 mA (182 avg), 32.3 C, 771 mAh
[372995.841674] batt: 59%, 3894 mV, 157 mA (97 avg), 32.6 C, 772 mAh
[373045.960876] batt: 59%, 3899 mV, 221 mA (180 avg), 32.8 C, 774 mAh
[373096.067504] batt: 59%, 3894 mV, 170 mA (175 avg), 32.8 C, 777 mAh
[373146.171417] batt: 59%, 3899 mV, 171 mA (169 avg), 32.3 C, 780 mAh
[373196.273071] batt: 59%, 3913 mV, 310 mA (163 avg), 32.0 C, 782 mAh
[373246.377960] batt: 60%, 3923 mV, 311 mA (311 avg), 31.5 C, 787 mAh​
Can't wait to test this with my car chargers!

Paul22000 said:
Ah, even better than /proc/kmsg! -
dmesg!
Then pipe it to grep!!!
[Edit]: Even better!
dmesg | grep batt > /sdcard/dmesg.txt
I found this interesting, charging via USB actually gives a "SLOW" message:
[372270.210327] batt: 60%, 3830 mV, -324 mA (-310 avg), 34.3 C, 788 mAh
[372320.319946] batt: 59%, 3840 mV, -161 mA (-263 avg), 34.3 C, 784 mAh
[372370.431915] batt: 59%, 3820 mV, -357 mA (-285 avg), 34.8 C, 780 mAh
[372429.495025] batt: 59%, 3840 mV, -203 mA (-243 avg), 34.7 C, 777 mAh
[372479.622131] batt: 59%, 3825 mV, -307 mA (-292 avg), 34.7 C, 772 mAh
[372529.769104] batt: 58%, 3825 mV, -321 mA (-246 avg), 34.6 C, 769 mAh
[372587.565826] batt: 58%, 3825 mV, -355 mA (-272 avg), 34.8 C, 764 mAh
[372637.720367] batt: 58%, 3845 mV, -61 mA (-212 avg), 34.7 C, 761 mAh
[372672.512237] batt: 57%, 3855 mV, -3 mA (-21 avg), 33.8 C, 760 mAh
[372677.114349] batt: 57%, 3859 mV, -3 mA (-4 avg), 33.1 C, 760 mAh
[372683.197692] batt: charging SLOW
[372692.734466] batt: 57%, 3884 mV, 199 mA (29 avg), 32.3 C, 760 mAh
[372742.861999] batt: 58%, 3874 mV, 214 mA (183 avg), 32.3 C, 761 mAh
[372792.981353] batt: 58%, 3889 mV, 165 mA (145 avg), 32.3 C, 763 mAh
[372843.105316] batt: 58%, 3894 mV, 208 mA (175 avg), 32.3 C, 766 mAh
[372895.235778] batt: 58%, 3889 mV, 225 mA (177 avg), 32.3 C, 768 mAh
[372945.352020] batt: 59%, 3894 mV, 141 mA (182 avg), 32.3 C, 771 mAh
[372995.841674] batt: 59%, 3894 mV, 157 mA (97 avg), 32.6 C, 772 mAh
[373045.960876] batt: 59%, 3899 mV, 221 mA (180 avg), 32.8 C, 774 mAh
[373096.067504] batt: 59%, 3894 mV, 170 mA (175 avg), 32.8 C, 777 mAh
[373146.171417] batt: 59%, 3899 mV, 171 mA (169 avg), 32.3 C, 780 mAh
[373196.273071] batt: 59%, 3913 mV, 310 mA (163 avg), 32.0 C, 782 mAh
[373246.377960] batt: 60%, 3923 mV, 311 mA (311 avg), 31.5 C, 787 mAh​
Can't wait to test this with my car chargers!
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what a geek!

attn1 said:
what a geek!
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LOL!!!!

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It was 1500 mAh before, wasn't it?
But now, HTC says 1250 mAh!
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Have you ever looked at NiCd or NiMH batts? They list them as 1.2 v, but they will show over 1.5 v when fully charged and will be actually discharged at 1.2 v (with no load), so yes it's all just about right, I'm showing about 4v at 80%

Ampere during charging of Huawei P Smart FIG-LX1

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(Sorry for my English not so good)

PSA: Rated (actual?) Battery capacities for S20, S20+ and S20 Ultra

For those that aren't aware, starting with the S10 phones, people were getting quite a bit less battery capacity than what samsung was advertising, using Accubattery, as well as external meters.
See discussion here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/help/low-estimated-battery-capacity-t3909380
Anyway, based on the phone infos, it appears these will be the rated capacities:
S20: 3880 mAh (Marketed as 4000 mAh)
S20+: 4370 mAh (Marketed as 4500 mAh)
S20Ultra: 4855 mAh (Marketed as 5000 mAh)
For reference, S10 was 3300 mAh, even though it was marketed as 3400 mAh.
You get these numbers by going to Settings -> About Phone -> Battery Information -> Read the bottom paragraph.

457600 charge cycles?

When I run the dumpsys battery command to view my battery health it reports 457600 charge cycles? Not possible. In AccuBatt my estimated capacity is 5665 mAh. A loss of 7% per year since mid 2020 seems pretty high, but not unreasonable.
Since mid 2020 that would mean like 457600 cycles / 900 days = 508 cycles/d.
Wow! Just checked mine:
Code:
adb shell dumpsys battery
Current Battery Service state:
AC powered: false
USB powered: true
Wireless powered: false
Max charging current: 500000
Max charging voltage: 5000000
Charge counter: 2016960
status: 2
health: 2
present: true
level: 66
scale: 100
voltage: 4104
temperature: 226
technology: Li-ion
Oops, so I have even a digit more... Could it be that it counts also trickling, like every single impulse? A more (way more) meaningful number would be the overall charge that was put into it...
@SigmundDroid
I checked the Samsung Phone app, it says 1018 discharge cycles. Same as the dumpsys battery command if you divide mSavedBatteryUseage by 100.
That I actually believe.
Will soon have to replace the battery. Wait another 6-9 month or so for the health to go below 80%.
You got a great nick by the way!

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