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Anyone running this? and if so, how does it work as far as development stuff goes. I just dont want to lose ADB and everything. I have a spare HDD lying around so I may just swap them out and install on there, or I could fix my old laptops LCD and get that system running with windows 7... regardless, I want to try before i buy lol
anyone got their own $.02?
PS- mods feel free to move this to the correct forum if need be, I wasnt sure where I would post a question like this as it regards to the Dream and the computer side of things...
I learned how to use ADB on Windows 7 and been using it ever since.
DOHCtor said:
I learned how to use ADB on Windows 7 and been using it ever since.
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sweet... i am downloading the RC now soooooo... any pointers/advice... lol
only downside I am seeing down the road is having to/wipe/re-install the actual release and not just being able to upgrade... i tried doing a seperate partition, but my computer wont let me shrink my C:\ only my Recovery (E:\)
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sweet... i am downloading the RC now soooooo... any pointers/advice... lol
only downside I am seeing down the road is having to/wipe/re-install the actual release and not just being able to upgrade... i tried doing a seperate partition, but my computer wont let me shrink my C:\ only my Recovery (E:\)
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Everything works on my x64 install (and it's where I do all my development), and I assume RC will work the same.
I was originally using Vista Home Premium and am now on the 7 RC. First off, there was a small problem applying to a group of Vista users that caused them to have a lot of problems installing ADB drivers, me included, in fact it was so screwed up I ended up completely messing up my computer and having to do a system restore and after a few hours was finally able to get it to install. Once I installed Windows 7 RC, I connected my G1, went to Device Manager, clicked on the G1 and installed the ADB drivers, and done. However, for me, I am unable to mount my phone as a mass storage device to access the SD card, in order to do this, I have to disable USB debugging on my phone, and it works, then reenable it again later to use ADB.
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Everything works on my x64 install (and it's where I do all my development), and I assume RC will work the same.
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thanks... i am debating things now... install new os or not to install... hmmm
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I was originally using Vista Home Premium and am now on the 7 RC. First off, there was a small problem applying to a group of Vista users that caused them to have a lot of problems installing ADB drivers, me included, in fact it was so screwed up I ended up completely messing up my computer and having to do a system restore and after a few hours was finally able to get it to install. Once I installed Windows 7 RC, I connected my G1, went to Device Manager, clicked on the G1 and installed the ADB drivers, and done. However, for me, I am unable to mount my phone as a mass storage device to access the SD card, in order to do this, I have to disable USB debugging on my phone, and it works, then reenable it again later to use ADB.
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I am hoping all goes well, if not I have backed everything up and I know where to come with all my questions regarding g1 things...
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I am hoping all goes well, if not I have backed everything up and I know where to come with all my questions regarding g1 things...
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You shouldn't need to back anything up. Windows 7 RC doesn't require a clean install, it can back everything up for you.
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You shouldn't need to back anything up. Windows 7 RC doesn't require a clean install, it can back everything up for you.
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Right, but one of the reasons i backed up now was so that when Windows 7 is actually released, i wont have to do it then seeing as how it will be in the middle of a semester for school and such. The 7 RC installs an "upgrade" so I should be in good shape as far as directories and all that go right? meaning i wont have to go into windows.old to find items i have downloaded and flashed to my current build on my g1.... they should be preserved... i would think...
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Right, but one of the reasons i backed up now was so that when Windows 7 is actually released, i wont have to do it then seeing as how it will be in the middle of a semester for school and such. The 7 RC installs an "upgrade" so I should be in good shape as far as directories and all that go right? meaning i wont have to go into windows.old to find items i have downloaded and flashed to my current build on my g1.... they should be preserved... i would think...
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They will be, and that is a good point as Microsoft doesn't offer an upgrade to Windows 7 OEM from RC, which is a bit annoying.
so i told myself before i started the install that if i got one error, i would stop right there and exit setup... a quarter of the way copying files it stopped and said that the files could not be copied blah blah... i think i may just wait til the OS goes public and upgrade then =P
mods feel free to trash this thread now... thanks to all you guys that chimed in to help!
I use virtual box or vmware and "xp pirate edition" to do all my adb work...
How can I unroot my phone and is there a way to do this without losing all my data (i.e. contacts, texts, etc.)? I don't really have much idea of what I'm doing, so I'm sorry if this seems like an obvious question, I'm just really frustrated.
you cant.. you need to barrow a PC to do it.. I am all Mac my self... or use boot camp..
I think you have to RUU the phone, but I don't know how you would go about doing that on a Mac, since I have no experience with running Windows programs in OS X. You could always try VMWare or something where you can run it that way.
I have VMWare Fusion running XP. So where do I go from there?
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I have VMWare Fusion running XP. So where do I go from there?
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Go to the stickies above and download the RUU (newest version) and run it in windows. Follow the prompts and it will install the stock ROM.
http://geekfor.me/news/sprint_ruu_156/
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You said you want to keep your contacts so you will need to backup with google or on your computer. There is an app online that will save your text message, but won't let you restore back to your phone.
Will I be able to keep my voicemails? It seems like that's something that's stored with Sprint, not on my phone.
Easily done on a mac
Already discussed at overclockers dot com thread number 628163. (Can't post links at this time).
Already on the web. Worked like a charm for me. Hope this helps.
Backup
Use My Backup (in the Market) to back up your settings, which will include SMS, Call Log, and VM.
It hasnt been mentioned, but the term "rooted" is used WAY to loosely, technically, IF you've only rooted, you can revert it quite easy, but once you start playing with update.zip files and flashing, then its not quite so easy without using the RUU, which obviously can be run in a Windows runtime for OSX or in bootcamp.
I have a Mac as well. I tried to RUU my phone on Windows 7 (Boot Camp). Just kept saying it couldn't find my phone and to make sure it was plugged in.
HeroMeng said:
I have a Mac as well. I tried to RUU my phone on Windows 7 (Boot Camp). Just kept saying it couldn't find my phone and to make sure it was plugged in.
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There are two RUU files. I think one is for "with google" phones and the other without (can someone confirm?). Check the above posted webpage and search for the other RUU. You should be able to check your software version to determine the correct RUU file.
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There are two RUU files. I think one is for "with google" phones and the other without (can someone confirm?). Check the above posted webpage and search for the other RUU. You should be able to check your software version to determine the correct RUU file.
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There's the 1.29 RUU (the original SW release for the Hero) & the 1.56 RUU, which includes the MIR update. It's recommended to just RUU with the 1.56 RUU.
srkmagnus said:
There are two RUU files. I think one is for "with google" phones and the other without (can someone confirm?). Check the above posted webpage and search for the other RUU. You should be able to check your software version to determine the correct RUU file.
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Mine is a With Google phone, maybe that's the problem....
I have looked and looked and maybe im just usnig the wrong words in seach but i havenet been able to find anything yet. I am looking for a virgin 1.5 rom that i can use to start freh and make my own rom to flash to my phone. Basically what I am looking for is a rom (not the RUU that puts a factory default on it) but the actual factory original rom before anyone has taken anytihg out or put on there own themes.
I have looked and looked. I find all kinds of roms to flash to my phone but all of them have been violated in some way or anouther. and although they are nice i would rather do it myself than use someone elses.
If this is already discussed somewhere please link me to it and i am sorry but i havent found it.
Thanx in advance for any help anyone can give me.
This might be what your looking for..
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-hero-roms/6699-cdma-hero-rom-gumbo-rom-1-5c.html#post41536
Check in the sticky wiki for available roms
Yeah me too! Damn all these promiscuous ROMs
Wouldn't doing an RUU and then rooting give you what you want?
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This might be what your looking for..
Check in the sticky wiki for available roms
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This gives you gumbo wich has stuff removed and added I want what gumbo based his off of not what gumbo did too it so to speak. Not that I dont like gumbo but he removed things I want virgin before that.
I have checked all of the roms on the wiki page and all have something done to them.
Where is the one that says here is the stock rom from sprint with nothing done to it.
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Wouldn't doing an RUU and then rooting give you what you want?
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No, doing the ruu from what I understand installs the factory original to the phone. I want it before it goes into the phone so I can modify it before it goes to the phone. Also I would like to re install the rom whenever I want but using the RUU i would have to use the RUU next time and the update it again.
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Yeah me too! Damn all these promiscuous ROMs
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HeHeHe. Thats funny!!!
This has to be out there. Basically I want a rom that if I flashed it to the phone would be no different than if I bought a new phone from sprint and turned it on.
You cant tell me everyone that roots their phone wants other than stock rom on it.
@ cammel, I agree with justinisyoung
theres not much more to it.
just flash an RUU and root it. this will provide the base files you need for your stock rom.
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@ cammel, I agree with justinisyoung
theres not much more to it.
just flash an RUU and root it. this will provide the base files you need for your stock rom.
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Ok, say I do the RUU how do I get the rom off the phone to edit it?
I think what youre talking about doing would be creating a signed update zip. While I dont know how to do it those are probably the key words you'd need to search to find the answers youre looking for. Hope that helps!
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Ok, say I do the RUU how do I get the rom off the phone to edit it?
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To my understanding the RUU is not a ROM.
It is a return to factory default. You would typically use this option when you needed to take your phone in for repair to the store or to get it back to stock.
So after your run the RUU, you would then root your phone using the method of your choosing, and then you would have what you are asking for.
When you download the RUU, there is a file called rom.zip
That's what you're looking for.
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I think what youre talking about doing would be creating a signed update zip. While I dont know how to do it those are probably the key words you'd need to search to find the answers youre looking for. Hope that helps!
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I know how to creat a signed update zip I do that alot. I need a rom to sign.
ccapasso said:
To my understanding the RUU is not a ROM.
It is a return to factory default. You would typically use this option when you needed to take your phone in for repair to the store or to get it back to stock.
So after your run the RUU, you would then root your phone using the method of your choosing, and then you would have what you are asking for.
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Yes you are correct that the phone would be back to original. But then how do i get that to my computer to edit it?
Also with this method I would have to re root my phone.
Plus Ive heard that you can brick your phone with the RUU with a 110 error thats unbrickable. not exactly fond of that idea.
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When you download the RUU, there is a file called rom.zip
That's what you're looking for.
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In th rom.zip there is a bunch of img files. im guessing if i tried to use that it would error out on me. I need the one with like sytem fioles and stuff I can edit.
You cant tell me this isnt out there. People have been modding this rom since it came out. So there has to be an untouched original somewhere to wich you can base your work off of. Otherwise that would meen everyone bases there work off of other peoples and never start from scratch. Is that really the case? Am I the first that wants a fresh rom to start with and build from there?
Contained in the image files is what you're look for.
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Contained in the image files is what you're look for.
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Ok I have tried extracting info out of the img files with powerISO, magicISO, imageburn, IrfanView, XnVview and Iso buster. But all of them say it is the wrong format.
I have seen multiple threads that link to a how to extract the files using unyaffs and ubuntu but I dont have ubuntu.
So I now have two questions:
First
Is it possible to extract files from an img file using window (windows 7 to be exact) and if it is possible what program would I use.
Second
Is there a tutorial out there Im missing?
Sorry If im being a pain in the A** about this and I usually figure stuff out on my own but this one is really givin me a headache. I have been working for three days on this one and its really getting to me.
If anyone can help me I would Appreciate it.
And thanx to everyone that has tried to help so far. Every time I get an answer that doesnt work it just meens Im one step closer to finding one that does so thanx everyone.
http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/android/index.html
Here is a good place to get started.
What you're interested atm is the unyaffs program.
Google and forum search are really useful tools and the answers to your questions are out there. Just not packaged nice and neat like you would want.
Here's the jist of what you need to get started.
1. Android SDK
2. Java JDK
3. android zip signing tool
4. unyaffs utility
5. RUU
6. start RUU
7. let it go all the way just before the point where it actually starts to flash your phone.
8. check your computers temp folder for the system.img
9. unpackage it using unyaffs
10. enjoy naked young virgin
11. zip devirgined rom back up
12. sign it
13. flash it
14. fix bugs, rinse, repeat
15. try and search next time.
16. sorry about the crankiness, had a lousy day at work.
hope my step-by-step while not overly detailed was helpful.
are you looking for AOSP? or do you want Sense UI and all that stuff? RUU Includes Sense
obelisk79 said:
Google and forum search are really useful tools and the answers to your questions are out there. Just not packaged nice and neat like you would want.
Here's the jist of what you need to get started.
1. Android SDK
2. Java JDK
3. android zip signing tool
4. unyaffs utility
5. RUU
6. start RUU
7. let it go all the way just before the point where it actually starts to flash your phone.
8. check your computers temp folder for the system.img
9. unpackage it using unyaffs
10. enjoy naked young virgin
11. zip devirgined rom back up
12. sign it
13. flash it
14. fix bugs, rinse, repeat
15. try and search next time.
16. sorry about the crankiness, had a lousy day at work.
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Ok I understand your cranky, but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.
So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site, and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning, after reading a bunch of stuff on here, I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.
The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done, uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, "Easy GIF Animator", which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. Just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)
Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far, I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons, the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.
Yeah me, I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file, name it update, and flash it, but it won't work. After some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so I search find out how to do that and, wa la, I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)
So then I decide, well everyone else is adding and removing files, couldn't be that hard, so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all. So I added the programs I always have on my phone, and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee, now we are talking. (All from searching.)
Then I start playing with some of the apps, and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wouldnt send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)
So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway, and the apps I like in it, I can just add myself. So I search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone, add them to a zip file, name it update, and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how to make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out, after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh, live and learn I guess.
So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. (still cant) Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. Yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.
There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.
So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files, and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more, but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.
So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.
I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer, download ubuntu, and install it. Get all of my files, take them to the other computer, and start reading the tutorials. This is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal. would it really kill the people that made the tutorials to put that little tidbit itn there. go ahead look not one of them I saw asid open terminal thay just say type this) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out, I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.
I disconnect the computer, take it outside, and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. Seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying, and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer or operating system again was almost blissful.
I came back in, and through utter frustration and dismay, haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. Yes, finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME, I KNOW IT NOW. So I go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it, there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something. Screw it, I'll load it. So I download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. And guess what, it didn't fix it.
So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 gazillion that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me, or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.
30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". Well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.
I flash it to my phone, the whole time it is going, I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying, Come on, copying files, yes its working! Finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything, I finally have it, my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.
Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot and get the same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer, but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.
That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. That is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth, It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching. and not finding Sh*t might I add. there is a whole bunch of stuff but nothing that directly relates to what I need.
I dont think I am doing that bad either, I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting their Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now. And I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.
Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.
I thought that is what this forum was for.
I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.
I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor can do to his phone by reading a tutorial or watching it on youtube. (Sh*t I never even thought of youtube. Probly somthing on there I could have watched instead of reading it. Oh well maybe next time.)
I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.
I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.
Maybe you are Ok with that, maybe you're not, But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible, or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out, but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.
But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone, maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything, and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist, and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.
This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know, just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I would understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums elseware but I didn't.
Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work, I can tell them why, instead of "I don't know, it just don't work" I want to understand what I am doing, not just do it for the sake of doing it.
So as far as your crankiness goes, Sorry if I made you cranky, but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help, you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.
So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. Now onto what I came here for originally :
abcdfv said:
link to unyaffs program
Here is a good place to get started.
What you're interested atm is the unyaffs program.
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Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a Huge step closer. I got it out of the RUU, got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. but that is for anouther day, Im going to sleep. But thank you for finding that for me. I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
Congrats. Sorry I wasn't so specific first time around. Forgot it was in .img contained as yaffs.
cammel8 said:
Ok I understand your cranky but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.
So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning after reading a bunch of stuff on here I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.
The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, Easy GIF Animator, which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)
Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.
Yeah me I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file name it update and flash it but it won't work. after some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so i search find out how to do that and wa la I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)
So then I decide well everyone else is adding and removing files couldn't be that hard so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all so I added the programs I always have on my phone and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee now we are talking. (All from searching.)
Then I start playing with some of the apps and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wound send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)
So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway and the apps I like in it I can just add myself. So i search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone add them to a zip file name it update and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how t make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh live and learn I guess.
So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.
There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.
So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.
So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.
I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer download ubuntu and install it. get all of my files take them to the other computer and start reading the tutorials. this is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.
I disconnect the computer and take it outside and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer again was almost blissful.
I came back in and through utter frustration and dismay. haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. yes finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME I KNOW IT NOW. So i go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something . screw it ill load it so i download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. and guess what, it didn't fix it.
So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 million that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.
30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.
I flash it to my phone the whole time it is going I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying Come one copying files, yes its working! finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything I finally have it my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.
Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.
That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. that is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching.
I dont think I am doing that bad either I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting there Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now and I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.
Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.
I thought that is what this forum was for.
I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.
I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor did to his phone.
I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.
I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.
Maybe you are Ok with that maybe you're not But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.
But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.
This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums else ware but I didn't.
Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work I can tell them why instead of "I don't know, it just don't" I want to understand what I am doing not just do it for the sake of doing it.
So as far as your crankiness goes Sorry if I made you cranky but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.
So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. now onto what I vcame here for originally :
Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a HUge step closer. I got it out of the ruu got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. But thank you for finding that for me I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
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Holy **** I didn't read one word that.
Good luck man!
MY PHONE DIED AFTER I FLUSH MY PHONE AFTER FLUSHING THIS BETA BUIL,THERE IS NO LIGHT AND I CANT CHARGE AND CANT TURN ON MY PHONE,,PLEASE HELP...
http://www.multiupload.com/1GEN8PQPMU
EDIT:wolla its working,found the solution here.just pulled out the battery 30 min and back..live on my hd2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596484&highlight=BRICK&page=31
I don't know how darkstone's name got into this thread, but football made it clear that you should not flash the ace build to your hd2. just re-flash the stock rom and your phone should be fine. hope this helps
The 4th line of his post said:
THIS ROM ONLY FOR COOKERS DO NOT TRY TO FLASH ON DEVICE!
I am not a dev .. let's hope they can help you. But it has been said endless number of times - first read, then read again, then several times more until every word is clear to you ... then try to flash ... on your own risk. Always.
ima take a guess and say you flashed a beta rom FOR the Desire HD on your HD2...incompatible ROM. your phone is bricked for good.
Learn to f**king read man. Im a newb and read that.
maybe not bricked for good, he shouuld be able to flash a ruu for his phone containing winmo and be good to go again, but who knows
I think he flashed a beta ROM darkstone made. It was just like any other Android build, made to launch from the sdcard. What happened exactly? You flashed it and it booted fine then just died?
yea who knows, it's nebulous. - Michael Scott
Take your battery and microsd card out and leave it for a few hours. Then plug in the battery but LEAVE THE SD CARD OUT and try booting up your phone into Windows.
Also how did you put those files on your phone since they are for the Storage Card. Did you try to copy them to your internal memory in some way?
You REALLY shouldnt try test versions unless you know what you are doing which im very sure you didnt..
Mark.
Wait... what?
OK, so you managed to get a hold of the files that I'm sharing with devs, and you somehow flash those files on to your phone (how is that even possible) ?
You must of flashed your phone using the EXE file on the first post of this thread right? If you did, then you should have not been so careless. Clearly on the first post it states that this is for developers only, this was not to be flashed.
Do not blame my files for something that you have done. Those files were not intended to be spread on this forum, however I have no problem if people do wish to post about it.
Time for you to call HTC and see if you can get a replacement...
he didnt release to the public for a reason I knew somebody was going to download it lmao
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Wait... what?
OK, so you managed to get a hold of the files that I'm sharing with devs, and you somehow flash those files on to your phone (how is that even possible) ?
You must of flashed your phone using the EXE file on the first post of this thread right?
Do not blame my files for something that you have done. Those files were not intended to be spread on this forum, however I have no problem if people do wish to post about it.
Time for you to call HTC and see if you can get a replacement...
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Thats actually what i was wondering, how did he kill his phone flashing something from the SD card?
DarkStone1337 said:
Wait... what?
OK, so you managed to get a hold of the files that I'm sharing with devs, and you somehow flash those files on to your phone (how is that even possible) ?
You must of flashed your phone using the EXE file on the first post of this thread right?
Do not blame my files for something that you have done. Those files were not intended to be spread on this forum, however I have no problem if people do wish to post about it.
Time for you to call HTC and see if you can get a replacement...
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There is a thread with a copy of your irc chat and a link to your test build. Do you want me to delete the link to the files?
Mark.
wait yea you're right. it's not a "flushable" ROM..i just downloaded the file and it's just another Android build that you put on the SD card. Not sure what the OP "flushed" but yeah, taking the SD card out and restarting the phone should do the trick. Am I missing something? Can you actually brick your phone booting android from Haret?
DarkStone1337 said:
Wait... what?
OK, so you managed to get a hold of the files that I'm sharing with devs, and you somehow flash those files on to your phone (how is that even possible) ?
You must of flashed your phone using the EXE file on the first post of this thread right? If you did, then you should have not been so careless. Clearly on the first post it states that this is for developers only, this was not to be flashed.
Do not blame my files for something that you have done. Those files were not intended to be spread on this forum, however I have no problem if people do wish to post about it.
Time for you to call HTC and see if you can get a replacement...
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I was watching the conversation and when you posted it on linux-chat I knew somebody was going to do it....i swear lmao
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There is a thread with a copy of your irc chat and a link to your test build. Do you want me to delete the link to the files?
Mark.
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Nope it's fine
I don't mind links being posted, but people need to be careful with them.
There was a reason that I didn't post that link, the build was incomplete and still had issues.
Thanks though
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wait yea you're right. it's not a "flushable" ROM..i just downloaded the file and it's just another Android build that you put on the SD card. Not sure what the OP "flushed" but yeah, taking the SD card out and restarting the phone should do the trick. Am I missing something? Can you actually brick your phone booting android from Haret?
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There is always a slight chance of messing Windows Mobile up but as long as you have HardSPL installed you can easily flash a new rom and get everything working again so nothing much to worry about.
Mark.
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It was I who put the link, without malice, thought it could be shared, i wrote clearly that it was a BETA BUILD for devs try.
If you want, i delete de post.
i just put the beta rom on my Sd card and pressed haret,then it stuck on bootlader,i taked off battery and on nothing happent.there is no light or nothing,i try to charge but nothing happens,no sync(sory for my engl.)
he said ace beta not just an android sd sh**t it said for cookers only
I am very interested in the Android development for HTC HD2 and I would very much like to try one of these builds. However, I'm totally confused as to what to do, how to install, what to install, which version to choose, etc. In other words.... I'm not a developer!
I would therefore suggest an "Available Android Release Thread" here on the forum, where each developer who is working on this can have a post that they can update when they update their release, and where they could list the installation steps and the prerequisites for going through with it.
If this already exists, please excuse me, I just didn't find it.
If it doesn't, I would appreciate it greatly if you could take the time to create it.
Thanks, and let me add that I and probably the entire HD2 user community, greatly appreciate and value the effort you guys are putting into this!
1)Install HSPL on your win mo.
2)Load Radio 2.12.50 (must end with 50) via bootloader.
3)Download hyperdroid v 1.5
4)In your root of your sdcard, create a folder "HyperDroidV1.5"
5)Copy the files you have downloaded to the folder you just created.
6)Open up the folder, tap on CLRCAD to enable sound.
7)Tap up on Haret.exe to boot linux.
8)Wait for about 5 mins for initial.
9)Viola, you got android on your phone.
P/S : If you dont know the terms yet, do some homework by googling it. It is readily available in the net.
there are stickies on how to install, what version is personal prference
and the majority of devs who release their builds do say in inthe first thread of what to do to get it running
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1)Install HSPL on your win mo.
2)Load Radio 2.12.50 (must end with 50) via bootloader.
3)Download hyperdroid v 1.5
4)In your root of your sdcard, create a folder "HyperDroidV1.5"
5)Copy the files you have downloaded to the folder you just created.
6)Open up the folder, tap on CLRCAD to enable sound.
7)Tap up on Haret.exe to boot linux.
8)Wait for about 5 mins for initial.
9)Viola, you got android on your phone.
P/S : If you dont know the terms yet, do some homework by googling it. It is readily available in the net.
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Thanks! Greatly appreciated!
derycklong said:
1)Install HSPL on your win mo.
2)Load Radio 2.12.50 (must end with 50) via bootloader.
3)Download hyperdroid v 1.5
4)In your root of your sdcard, create a folder "HyperDroidV1.5"
5)Copy the files you have downloaded to the folder you just created.
6)Open up the folder, tap on CLRCAD to enable sound.
7)Tap up on Haret.exe to boot linux.
8)Wait for about 5 mins for initial.
9)Viola, you got android on your phone.
P/S : If you dont know the terms yet, do some homework by googling it. It is readily available in the net.
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THANKS, thats pretty straight forward... now how do we dual boot with windows mobile after doing that?
and how do we get back to WinMo after that, and after getting back to WinMo, how do get back to Droid?
azlan96 said:
THANKS, thats pretty straight forward... now how do we dual boot with windows mobile after doing that?
and how do we get back to WinMo after that, and after getting back to WinMo, how do get back to Droid?
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you either use one of ther many dualk boot loaders or you run it manually within windows
you reboot your phone from android to get back into windows
azlan96 said:
THANKS, thats pretty straight forward... now how do we dual boot with windows mobile after doing that?
and how do we get back to WinMo after that, and after getting back to WinMo, how do get back to Droid?
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Your phone turns into a motorola droid or droid 2?
Just an FYI...
My wife has the same phone and she hates it, for obvious reasons. I will soon be using her phone to create an instructional video that will take you through the whole processes.
I will be including installing HSPL, Radio, Winmo ROM,and finally Android.
So, when time permitting and I can swipe her phone for long enough...
I've done several searches and run many different versions, but I'm still getting sleep death issues. Quick question and answers, has this issue been resolved for sure and where can I find the link to solve it?
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dung8604 said:
I've done several searches and run many different versions, but I'm still getting sleep death issues. Quick question and answers, has this issue been resolved for sure and where can I find the link to solve it?
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Latest HTCclay version and supposedly the latest Mattc are SOD free. Can't say for sure on Mattc cause I have not tried yet, but HTCclay one is. Problem with that one though is BT is dead in the water.
Hatefly said:
Latest HTCclay version and supposedly the latest Mattc are SOD free. Can't say for sure on Mattc cause I have not tried yet, but HTCclay one is. Problem with that one though is BT is dead in the water.
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Thanks, but I flashed my winmo ROM and updated the radio, now I'm using sergio's desire build perfectly
One thing that should be noted, my feeling is that WM stock ROM messes with android and causes a whole mess of problems, so you should flash an approved ROM before booting your android. This is JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE.
Had SOD with every build before, now I'm nearing the end of my second day with no SOD issues at all.
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