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I have the TyTN for over a month now.
I am frustrated with the fact the device halts in various situations.
For example, today, it just halted with no apparent reason.
When I try to do soft reset, the device is getting past a certain point and halts. Only after I do several soft resets it then boots.
I am suspecting some SPB software I have installed on the device and/or the Resco file explorer.
I would realy appriciate some help on this.
It really drives me nuts.
No halt issues with Spb software here and I use pocket plus, time, backup and weather.
I think (someone correct me if I am misled) on some Tytn/microSD memory card combinations it it critical to run the Today plugins from main memory, not from the card. Try it.
I have actually did a hard reset and did not re-install the SPB software I used to use.
What you are suggesting maybe right, since all of the plugins I used were installed on the external memory card.
Until now everything is fine and working as they should.
I will test this later today to see if this might be the case
thanks for the help
Hay,
I'm using i-mate jasjar, and since day 1 (bought it sep 2005) i've had the problem of slow wakeup and generally slow response. I've run suggested apps such as pocket mechanic etc to remove duplicate wake-up hooks etc, with only slight effect. I've tried several ROMs, none better than the other... I have no extra software installed (i don't want to make it slower than it already is!)
*From i hit a button till the device is (awake) accepting commands takes 10-20 secs...
*From someone starts ringing till my phone is awake enough to start ringing takes 8-10 seconds. clicking the answer button takes another 5+ seconds.
*Dialing is slow (pressing numbers), i suspect it's the DTMF .wav files that take time to load. If i dial too fast, the order of keys pressed are messed up! (say i dial 1-2-3-4, phone takes 4-5 seconds to react, then types 1-2-4-3)
*When i have the usb on, and screen is on, from i click start button, it takes 5-10 seconds before it's displayed. I've tracked this down to a problem reading the icons of certain programs.. any fix for this?
I'm using rom 1.30.76(ext .164), radio 1.09.
This is the latest i-mate rom.
Is my device faulty or is this normal behaviour? Should i try another ROM? Is there any unbranded *good* ROMs out there?
please help,
Michael
VERY abnormal! I had same issue. Solved it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281735
Hope it's the same thing for you. If not, work HARD on ID'ign what's on the SD card - and do my test I descroibe with the SD card removed - I bet you see an immediate improvmeent.
Try this
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\"
Change "CacheSize" value from "0" naar "4096".
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)"
Change "EnableCache" value to "1"
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\"
Change "ReplStoreCacheSize" value to "4096"
disable the 3D phone skin and use the default one it dont has the feature where when typing in a number thats already in the phone book will show . it also looks flat . but its fast .check wiki registry hacks for it . if that dont work install the latest o2 rom with out o2 crap apps then get sktools use sktools and config divise to proformance. trust me it will make your divice fast as wip.
faster than all cooked roms on here
Hi again,
cragiecragie4, I tried removing SD card, no improvement whatsoever on speed.
niketkumar, I tried the cache registry changes, no improvements.
tattootroy, I've run several performance optimizing programs but none make it for the better. What makes this app different?
I still suspect my device may be faulty or bugged, since my friend's device appears faster...
The old I-mate rom was alot faster than the current one, but i don't want to downgrade radio and functionality etc...
Any ROM suggestions?
I'm using the ROM covered here - seems good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279258&page=1
Done a LOT of installation and work after basic re-flash, but overall I havn't found any bugs at all (despite what others complain about). Sorry, except that the .NET CF2.0 is badly installed.
Did you run my test? Remember that if you remove SD it will still be slow once, then fast thereafter. Did you work thro it properly. I SOOO had your symptoms, and was so pissed with the whole thing I was about to reflash - then I found that this was definitely the issue.
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niketkumar, I tried the cache registry changes, no improvements.
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Did u waited for 10 secs and after dat did the soft reset if not try again .
hi, i had the same pb. i didn't find any solution on french forums and as i suspected my radio upgrade (from 1.09 to 1.13) and my downgrade to 1.13: i decided to hard reset and re install every app on my qtek 9000. Since then it works perfectly. hope it will help...
for info, i got version rom 1.30.97 FRE radio 1.13.00 and extROM 1.30.186 FRE
My Touch became progressively slow to the point where it hardley runs and storage mem is down to .04MB for some reason. Without installing anyting or making any huge changes to the phone what sort of things can cause it to suddenly become slow? I'm hoping there is a quick fix so I don't have to perform a hardboot. I noticed that the mxip_notify file is about 4.5MB but maybe this is normal. Here is what I am also noticing:
- mxip_notify file 4.5MB
- clock on HTC home screen doesn't change
- softboot does not improve performance
- low memory warning message constantly pops up informing me that I need
to free some memory.
This is the original ROM.
Thanks in advance.
In my experience is that you need to do a hard reset, I know its a hastle, but it helps speed it up loads.
my touch used to run out of memory as well, then i connected it to my pc, and browsed to computer\htc touch\application data\info feed\cache and cleared all the data that was there, it freed about 6 MB, also cleared the feeds folder, and freed another 2 MBs, the performance seems to have improved and i no longer get the out of memory error. i dont know if this is the culprit in ur case, but it worked for me, so u can give that a try . or try opening each and every folder in ur Touch through windows and see what files are taking lots of space. also i recently installed Home Screen ++ with which OCd my processor to 266MHz and in certain apps the performence boost is amazing. u can try that as well.
I was really hoping I would not have to hard reset my Touch since installing applications can be a pain and I have a lot of SMSs I would not like to loose. I have seen applications out there that back up SMSs and allow you to restore the SMSs back on the phone but I am not confident it will work.
And while hard resetting will solve the problem, it does not ultimately answer why my Touch suddenly ran out of space.
I'm wondering what the size of most user's mxip_notify file is.
Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
What did you do ? Any pattern ?
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Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
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Not much info there, my pictures hang up... on the wall everyday.
What are you doing? What have you been doing? Is it due to memory being full (as apps aren't closing)
Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
You must have a duff unit!
Well mine has been completely spot on!
Maybe its something you have installed causing issues? Try uninstalling things one by one to see if that rectifies any problems you may have.
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Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
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"Hangs" means "crashes" or, more precisely "becomes completely and permanently unresponsive to anything less than a soft reset".
Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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I really would consider that you may have a duff unit. There are loads of peoeple on here who advise the screen is too responsive! Plus the lack of memory sounds like the biggest issue.
When you navigate to the windows folder, do you actually let it load or do you just leave it? Reason I ask is that there are thousands of files in there and it does take a while to read them. It did on my HD anyway.
Seems like when reg edits have been done to get task manager working how we are all used to it, should be working better.
Oh, software is made for resistive screens so some presses wont register as the software is more than likely looking for a more presice tap rather than a finer splodged over the actual area its looking for a response in. Should be fine later down the line when more things are brought to capacitive screens.
Hope it all works out for ya
That is true - the menus are a little small for finger use - so it will be a case of waiting I guess.
I removed all the progs that I'd installed already (includng 'microsoft my phone' - forgot about that one)
Screen is very responsive most of the time - but then sometimes it just seems to space out- almost like you catch it off guard - not what I'd expect frankly
It does eventually load the windows folder in explorer - but it takes about 2 1/2 mins to do so - no other folder does that to it, nor any other action - and it wasn't doing that up until yesterday
Hard reset next [if i can figure out how...] - if that doesn't yield significant improvement then it's back to TCR for an exchange (provided some more units have turned up by now!!)
Cheers though
Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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+1 ...... Mine loads in a split second
My phone doesnt hangs, but my /windows folder takes about 1/2 minutes in load.
No problems here either. One recommendation though for those with slow file list loading: try to enable and up the caches (which are stock) with Advanced Config. You will gain some more speed!
Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Sounds like Kinomaplay is searching and associating with files in the background. I think it may be set to do that by default but you can tell it not to in the settings - only trouble is you may have to wait for it to do it's thing as not sure if you can interrupt it. I got so fed up with the programme on the HD I trashed it - lovely interface though
Strange thing with Windows folder loading, with the "normal" Explorer it takes my device a very long time too (first few times did a soft reset because i thought it was hung also), but with Total Commander explorer the Windows folder is there instantly, sounds like Explorer runs into something, just have to figure out what though.
Crazy . . . . . . . . . . .
Mine takes just a split second to load windows folder!
But it crashes 2 - 3 times a day! Without doing nothing! When i try to unlock it, screen wont go on! Battery off, here we go again! And i got the no sound problem.. After 3-5 calls, i car hear what others are saying but they cant hear a word from me!! This is happening all time.. (tested all this even with stock rom and no apps installed or any tweak etc..)
I read here in the forums that other people have similar problems..And in italy the distribution stopped because of defected rom??
Some say it heppened in france too.. (allthough i live in greece, i got mine sent from france, expansys headquarters..)
So maybe its roms problem? Or just me having a possible defected device..?
Any of you with freezing problems etc..??
Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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I noticed that the hangs have something to do with the charging of the phone,no matter if its via usb or power pluged. Thanks for confirming though.. This is MAJOR issue for me..You think that your phone is ok in your pockets but it is shut down!!
About the sound problem i mentioned before?
Knock on wood my HD2 is rocksolid for now! Everything is fast and stable!
Hi.
I have to soft reset my HD2 all the time because it often lags too much.
I will now list the things which makes me wanna reset my device:
- The HD2 lags so badly, that most actions take up to 5 seconds.
- One application can crash (mostly HTC_Messaging), and I have to soft reset.
- When I write messages, the keyboard has a input lag of 5-10 seconds.
- Screen wont turn on when I push the buttons
- The device wont unlock when I slide the slider, it just stops up.
Now this happens each time I upgrade my ROM, and I am currently using Artemis now.
The programs I've installed each time is:
- FingerKeyboard
- Touch X reset and wifi
- Touch X button icon in messaging
and now I use WMLongLife also.
My SD-card is an 8GB card.
So if someone could help me, I would be happy.
(Sorry for bad english.)
try installing the cleanRAM app
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try installing the cleanRAM app
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Doens't help either, ends up with the program crashing when its at the end and I try to klikk "OK!"
have you try to reinstall factory setting or hard reset
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Doens't help either, ends up with the program crashing when its at the end and I try to klikk "OK!"
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Start again. Install nothing and just configure settings.
Does it run slow and crash then?
If so you have problem that could be harware.
Try another ROM and if the same then I think you need to return the unit.
If all runs fine on a clean, vanilla phone then you are doing something in the install process that is causing the instability.
Try installs one by one to the phone mem and check operation each time.
NB. Some background info would have been helpful. ROM version, Model etc!
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Start again. Install nothing and just configure settings.
Does it run slow and crash then?
If so you have problem that could be harware.
Try another ROM and if the same then I think you need to return the unit.
If all runs fine on a clean, vanilla phone then you are doing something in the install process that is causing the instability.
Try installs one by one to the phone mem and check operation each time.
NB. Some background info would have been helpful. ROM version, Model etc!
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The problem is that I can't predict when its gonna happen. It can happen randomly, and then I have to restart the phone. After the restart, everything works normal and perfect.
This can happen upto three times a day, some days it wont happen at all.
Currently using 2.10.531.7 Artemis, but this also happens with the stock ROM. The newest one that is. My radio version is 2.06.51.07
Its kinda difficult to run things vanilla phone, cause the applications I use, I need.
for me htc messaging has never crashed...
i suggest you to flash a stock rom, 1.66 for example and try it without the sent button.
if there are still problems, u can try using mtty or send it back for repair...
edit: i had the problem where the phone was freezing while loading for a long time (over night), and the display won´t turn on. Switched back to manually update Facebook, Twitter and Weather, and had no more problems since...
Bimme said:
for me htc messaging has never crashed...
i suggest you to flash a stock rom, 1.66 for example and try it without the sent button.
if there are still problems, u can try using mtty or send it back for repair...
edit: i had the problem where the phone was freezing while loading for a long time (over night), and the display won´t turn on. Switched back to manually update Facebook, Twitter and Weather, and had no more problems since...
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Well I think its crashing.
That's what I usually use when I lock the screen. So sometimes when I try to unlock it, I just get half of the messaging program or nothing, on screen. And I cant do anything.
When I try to click the Home-button, it respons in some seconds and Home-screen is all laggy.
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Well I think its crashing.
That's what I usually use when I lock the screen. So sometimes when I try to unlock it, I just get half of the messaging program or nothing, on screen. And I cant do anything.
When I try to click the Home-button, it respons in some seconds and Home-screen is all laggy.
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When you lock the phone apps still run in the back ground as if asleep and when you unlock they attempt to restore themselves as they were before the lock.
You have something clashing installed and that is calling the registry at the same time as something else. Remember when windows full size used to do it?.
I think you have a badly written piece of software installed (either preloaded or installed by yourself) and suggesting starting from vanilla is a way to issolate it!
i've also had similar problems as you. after hard reseting a couple of times, i noticed that the intermittent lag began after i started syncing my phone to my PC and myphone. it turns out that my terrible management of appointments, messages and contacts was the root of my problem (several duplicates of everything, and almost 5000 text messages). i suggest you attempt to work your phone a couple days without loading up any PIM information, archive messages and remove duplicates (sktools is excellent at doing this)
i suggest you do something similar, it really helps. i was able to get my device to prrform as well as when i still had the vanilla ROM
best of luck! your device is better than you think!
Also, use the Task Manager, and close applications that you don't use, especially the Internet browser and applications that use data connection. These ones can really block the phone when connection is intermittent.
Yet again, I'm left dumbfounded by claims of "serious" issues with this device. I just don't understand how almost everyone has a "story" regarding the HTC HD2 being SLOW or LAGGY. Fortunately for me, I haven't soft reset my unit in 46h 5m 19s and everything is still running flawlessly.
your phone sounds faulty or something. for me.. even with the Stock 1.66 ROM i had, it was working pretty fast n smooth. now with Dutty's ROM, its faster n smoother than ever. i love this beast
I never have these problem! I used Official or Clean EX HQ roms and never got these problem!
Try a Task 29 and flash with 1.66 Official or Most popular Cook ROM
Pa49: I have only installed the programs which I have listed in the first post. I guess im not the only one using them.
Kev007: I usually have a lot of textmessages when I dont delet them, but thats max 2000. I dont sync my phone with my computer, so no uneccessary contacts or something either. Dont even use calendar, so have no appointments.
Reignzone: It is really bad. It can happen upto three times a day, and I just cant use the phone at all. Just sliding the home-screen to see all my shortcuts takes maybe 10 seconds. I could film it with a camcorder next time it happens so people could see.
The same thing happens each time I've installed a ROM. So it has clearly something to do with the phone and not with the software I've installed.
Pa49: I have only installed the programs which I have listed in the first post. I guess im not the only one using them.
Kev007: I usually have a lot of textmessages when I dont delet them, but thats max 2000. I dont sync my phone with my computer, so no uneccessary contacts or something either. Dont even use calendar, so have no appointments.
Reignzone: It is really bad. It can happen upto three times a day, and I just cant use the phone at all. Just sliding the home-screen to see all my shortcuts takes maybe 10 seconds. I could film it with a camcorder next time it happens so people could see.
The same thing happens each time I've installed a ROM. So it has clearly something to do with the phone and not with the software I've installed.
I get lags too when twitter is updating in the background. You would think a 1ghz processor could do two things at once
Backup your miscrosd. Try a microsd format. Restore your data. See if this helps.
T-Mo US HD2, still completely stock. I was having some issues with sluggish animations, applied many of the tweaks in the sticky threads here, things got better. However, it was super super slow to switch into some applications (SMS *always*, others occasionally).
Eventually I wondered about that fancy Swype keyboard and tried switching back to the full qwerty. All that disappeared and it moves like lightning now, I have to say.
I haven't played with updating Swype or maybe at least loading a ROM without it that I can do a regular install on top of. However, right now I don't miss it .
Lag issues
I have no idea what is causing your issues, but if it travels from one rom to the next, it may be your sd card.
I had an issue with lag in swype and other apps.
I noticed when I popped out the sd card the device instantly unfroze.
I then copied all files except App data and reformatted the sd.
No issues after that.
Hope this helps.