I have noticed on wm5 and wm6 that when listening to music the backlight will NOT turn of like on other ppc's? I have to use a button to turn off the light (in coreplayer). With the windows media I cannot add a button as it never works. But why will the screen NOT turn off completely after a given time?
Because of the way the screen is bulid.
I can't explain this exacty, but I've read that this screen is different
from the normal ppc screens.
Without light, you would basically see nothing (even in sunlight).
You could attacht SPB's "Screen Off" (from SPB Pocket Plus Actions) to a hardware key (to be able to turn it off when using WMPlayer)
Hi,
I've been trying to figure out how to implement the perfect keylock. Currently, I'm not able to find a keylock program/MortScript that does the following:
1. Lock the keypad if phone goes into standby
2. Auto-unlock the keypad if the power button is pressed.
This way, when I power on my phone, it's not locked. But if it's auto-powered on (ie reminder, etc.) then it will be locked.
Hi, I find it interesting that, you can upload scripts please
Greetings and Thanks
Sorry for the English
have you tried S2U2? (Slide to unlock - keylock similar to iPhone's)
Think it does 1) not 2), but I'm not too sure...
it looks cool though
Our device does both points as standard. Problem that it powers itself on and automatically unlocks when for example a call or any notification pops up on the screen.
I agree with hachuah's idea about automatic locking, so I'm looking for application that could:
1. Lock the screen if standby
2. On standby mode. If I tap some part of the screen (some part of screen only to save some batt power), then it would show option to unlock.
3. If I tap, but do nothing or do not unlock, it would goes to standby again.
With above I do not have to push the power button, buttons are easy to be come wear and stay down.
I'm even gladly to pay for someone who's willing to create that kind of application. Or is it already available?
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2. On standby mode. If I tap some part of the screen (some part of screen only to save some batt power), then it would show option to unlock.
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I seriously doubt if that could be archieved by software alone. The touch screen is essentially connected to the LCD power. If the panel is off, the touch screen is off.
Furthermore, it's a all-or-none operation - you just can't have "part" of it on, and ther other part off. I am pretty certain no manufacturer would ever produce such an implementation, even if they could.
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I seriously doubt if that could be archieved by software alone. The touch screen is essentially connected to the LCD power. If the panel is off, the touch screen is off.
Furthermore, it's a all-or-none operation - you just can't have "part" of it on, and ther other part off. I am pretty certain no manufacturer would ever produce such an implementation, even if they could.
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I know that Symbian phone able to do that.
So, basically I could set the timer for the screen to go off. And when the screen off and tap on the screen, it will ask if I want to unlock the screen or not. If not, it will go off again.
So, from what you said, it is impossible to make the screen off but the touch on? It is a hardware issue then. What a sad. Only recently I moved from Symbian to WM, if only WM doesn't rely on button too much.
Or maybe it is possible by set the brightness to very minimal, so doesn't display anything, but the touch is still working?
So, it's an application that would turn the brightness off and lock after some defined time. And would turn the brightness on again when the touchscreen is tapped to ask if user want to unlock.
Is it possible?
Perhaps I should clarify what I said - what I meant by "all or none" operation is that the *touch screen* won't be able to get switched on partially - to save power as you have hoped.
In fact, the touch screen is technically separated from the LCD panel itself, and the backlite too - but it's either a MS or HTC decision that they are stuck together, i.e. you just can't have the LCD off, with the touch screen stays on.
In fact, recent HTC devices WM5 or above have elmininated the function to actually turn off the backlight while the LCD panel is on.
So what we can do is very much limited to use a button based keylock, instead of a touch screen based.
As for your suggestion to display "black" on screen while keeping minimal backlight - it's note quite practical in HTC devices. First the backlight must be on as I said earlier for it to display even "black" such that the touch screen is responsive. It follows that your battery will be drained extremely quickly.
Even with very small power to LCD for the touch could work still takes too much power? Aww.. so it is not possible to do what I want.
Well, I guess I need to get used to with using button, or maybe next time I will try to use bluetooth device to wake the screen.
Thank you for the information, very educating and useful.
hachuah said:
Hi,
I've been trying to figure out how to implement the perfect keylock. Currently, I'm not able to find a keylock program/MortScript that does the following:
1. Lock the keypad if phone goes into standby
2. Auto-unlock the keypad if the power button is pressed.
This way, when I power on my phone, it's not locked. But if it's auto-powered on (ie reminder, etc.) then it will be locked.
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try either of these, i think they might both do what you want
My practice is to turn off my HD after use (I use 3rd party app to turn off the machine instead of pressing the power button), and put it back to the pocket. Recently, I found that my HD have do something when it is off, such as,
- make a phone call
- Go the the TF3D Photo tab and viewing a photo
- Showing the Power setting page (I set it to the LSK)
I'm 100% sure that the machine is off, so I wonder if my machine got a problem?
are you REALLY 100% sure it is OFF and not only in standby (aka screen off)? there is a old version of a 3rd party app that when you tap the poweroff icon goes standby and NOT poweroff. you should disable the 3rd party app and shut down your device using the default power button.
instead if you like having it only in standby you should keep in mind that standby does NOT by any means autolocks the screen. I'll try to explain:
you put the machine in standby and put it back in the pocket. you receive, dunno, a ring or a sms or something else. automatically the screen turns itself on, activating the touchscreen, and then all hell breaks loose
there are some solutions to this: a long press of the end key enables the default lock feature of the device. then you can turn off the screen safely (or almost safely)
also you might want to install s2u2 and set it to autolock on screen off. you turn off the screen (either with your app or the power button) and when resuming you have a neat "slide to unlock" screen (iphone-like). This is the solution i suggest more.
I am quite sure i talked too much but i hope i've been useful anyway
I have recently taken delivery of an Otterbox for use on my bike (GPSComputerCycle and music) but to save power I would like to be able to turn the screen off during the ride (xpshutdown allows me to do this) and then press the screen if I want to turn the HD back on again.
I use S2U2 if this makes an difference.
Is there a setting somewhere which allows me to press the screen to power the THD back on again (even if it goes to a lock-screen)?
I had a quick look through the settings (Screen/Power/Lock) but couldn't find anything.
Anyone help?
Thanks
Not possible AFAIK.
When the screen powers down, that applies to the touch-sensitive mechanism as well as the display element.
It would probably require something deeper than even a registry hack, the drivers would need re-writing or something.
Its not possible for the simple reason that the buttons below the screen are part and parcel of the touch screen, so if the screen is off, they won't work.
There appears to be no power to these lower buttons while in standby, so no software could work either?
However there is other ways of doing this:
1. Use s2u2 unlock on stylus out, so when you pull out the stylus, the HD comes on and unlocks. It's simple.
2. MobileMagic to toggle the screen on/off when device is turned face down. That way when you turn it face down, screen goes off and buttons are locked. To turn it back on, turn devicedevice face down again. You will need need to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for", because if the device gets turned off (instead of just screen off) it won't respond.
Hope this helps
Unfortunately the HD will be inside an Otterbox mounted on the handlebars of my bike, so removing the stylus would not be an option and neither would using the G-Sensor.
Sounds like I will have to have it powered on all the time. I know that GPSCycleComputer dims the display while it is active, so this might be a part solution.
Thanks for all the answers though. I was being a numpty after all!
Regards
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Unfortunately the HD will be inside an Otterbox mounted on the handlebars of my bike, so removing the stylus would not be an option and neither would using the G-Sensor.
Sounds like I will have to have it powered on all the time. I know that GPSCycleComputer dims the display while it is active, so this might be a part solution.
Thanks for all the answers though. I was being a numpty after all!
Regards
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Alternative solution:
Attach a dynamo to the wheels of your bicycle and charge your HD on the go
I wouldn't be able to even begin telling you how to do this though!
I've been using the Cookie home tab lockscreen for quite some time (using HD2 with the Energy ROM), but found that it interfered with the Manila music player (made my device crash), so now I'm using the standard Wm 6.5 lockscreen, which I found is decent too.
However, I noticed that the touchscreen isn't locked, so touching the screen makes the device stay on. I also had my settings for the backlight of my device to never go off, which made the screen stay on, even when the lockscreen was active.
Is there a way to set the delay for the screen/device to go off when using the standard wm6.5 lockscreen, independently of the backlight settings?
Can the touchscreen also be locked?
I've noticed that battery drain increased significantly since using the standard lock, probably because of this touchscreen problem making the device go on continuouslyy in my pocket (accidently pressing a button when it's in my pocket and then keeping it on because of the touchscreen)
BTW: S2U is a good option indeed, but I like the standard lockscreen