so I read that it has 710mb of rom for app storage, so can you not store apps on the 8 gigs (6.5)of internal mem?
1wingangel said:
so I read that it has 710mb of rom for app storage, so can you not store apps on the 8 gigs (6.5)of internal mem?
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Currently, you cannot store apps on the 6+ gig partition of the internal memory.
However, when you think about it, the 748MB allocated as internal storage, for apps, is already more total application storage than what most people allocate for themselves when using apps2sd on a rooted phone. For example, if you read some ROM threads, you should find reference to a suggested 512MB partition on SD card for apps2sd and the likelihood of never filling it up. So, even without root and apps2sd we have more apps storage than pretty much everyone else.
Aside from plain old app storage though, I am very curious to see what developers can do with these partitions and all that internal memory once root is achieved.
Well the good thing nowadays is that alot of developers store files on your sd card also, so you save alot of your app space. I've installed every app that i wanted (I've downloaded over 60) and i have 633mb left
plus most apps don't take much space anyways, alot are under a 1mb
I just heard that the evo has 1gig of storage, which is awesome, but I hate sprint and want to convince myself that the Incredible is a better phone.
so if you have an sd, and download something, does it go to internal or sd?
and when you plug in your phone to your pc, does it show two seperate hard drives(sd and internal)?
1wingangel said:
I just heard that the evo has 1gig of storage, which is awesome, but I hate sprint and want to convince myself that the Incredible is a better phone.
so if you have an sd, and download something, does it go to internal or sd?
and when you plug in your phone to your pc, does it show two seperate hard drives(sd and internal)?
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When you download something, by default it saves to your SD. I haven't found a setting to change that. However, you can move the files to your internal storage after you've finished downloading using Astro File Manager. The downside to all this right now is that all third party apps can only read from the SD card. So if you have music and you want to play them using a third party app, then you'll have to store them on the SD.
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When you download something, by default it saves to your SD. I haven't found a setting to change that. However, you can move the files to your internal storage after you've finished downloading using Astro File Manager. The downside to all this right now is that all third party apps can only read from the SD card. So if you have music and you want to play them using a third party app, then you'll have to store them on the SD.
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Then whats the point of having that much internal storage?
When you download something, by default it saves to your SD. I haven't found a setting to change that. However, you can move the files to your inter
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Then whats the point of having that much internal storage?
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Things change. It'll be more use later this year. While DI is the first Android set to have internal memory, it won't be the last.
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1wingangel said:
Then whats the point of having that much internal storage?
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For pictures/music/videos to be used with stock media apps. I know, it's lame as of right now. Hopefully soon more app developers will create apps that will allow the incredible to access internal storage.
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What good is internal memory on Droid X ? How can you access it and what can you put on there ?
It's faster than SD Card memory because it's built into the phone and doesn't have to pass data as far. You have 8 gigs of it built into the Droid X. I bet you could access it with the Android SDK methods, but I'm not sure if you can put it into mass storage mode like your SD Card.
TL;DR Internal memory faster than SD Card
The internal memory is the default location that all your apps are installed to if you do not choose to use app2sd to run them off of your sd card.
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amathophobia said:
The internal memory is the default location that all your apps are installed to if you do not choose to use app2sd to run them off of your sd card.
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are you sure ? haven't people been complaining of low memory space for apps, like only a few hundred MB.
I have tons of apps and don't use apps2sd for any of them (it gives me nothing but problems). Haven't had a single problem with not enough space.
StDevious said:
are you sure ? haven't people been complaining of low memory space for apps, like only a few hundred MB.
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there's RAM and there's internal memory. RAM is where the ACTIVE apps run, not where they are stored. There is only a few hundred megs of RAM, but thats fine. Internal task killer will start killing them if you managed to drop it below a certain level from running too many apps at once i.e. autokiller settings <> ATK.
What i wish is that apps with libraries could store the library in the internal rather than in the SDcard, it would help with clutter on the SDcard, and probably access faster too...
Hey guys,
Recent iOS convert and still figuring out a lot about my atrix and android in general.
Would someone be willing to give me a rundown on how media and apps are stored?
Specifically, where are Market and non market apps stored on the atrix? Can I control the download location through settings?
The same for music and video? I've been dragging and dropping media to intetnal storage but it appears on my 8 gig SD?
Same goes for beyondpod. Can't figure out the storage path.
A little confused.
Thanks for the help. This is a heck of a community!
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joelszs said:
Hey guys,
Recent iOS convert and still figuring out a lot about my atrix and android in general.
Would someone be willing to give me a rundown on how media and apps are stored?
Specifically, where are Market and non market apps stored on the atrix? Can I control the download location through settings?
The same for music and video? I've been dragging and dropping media to intetnal storage but it appears on my 8 gig SD?
Same goes for beyondpod. Can't figure out the storage path.
A little confused.
Thanks for the help. This is a heck of a community!
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First, the "sdcard" is your internal storage. An actual sdcard will be referred to as external or sdcardext, or something like that. You can place music and pics pretty much on either one and the music player and gallery will find it. As for apps, you can download them and most will end up in non-accessible internal memory but you can go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications and select the app and you might or might not have a choice to move to "Phone" or "media Area". The media area will be the external card.
Live is correct, you can put anything on either SD or ExtSD and it will be found. As for the apps they download to /system/apps in the Internal phone storage, unless you do the above and move them to the SD card. To be honest though you've got a ton of storage on the internal phone storage for apps so unless you have like 500+ apps it won't be an issue. As far as how the internal SD is organized basically the Internal phone storage and internal SD are the same thing, the internal phone storage is just partitioned off to be used for the OS and app storage and you see the remainder as usable SD internal storage.
Thanks for the information guys, much appreciated.
I've run out of app storage space on my phone. Its given me a low storage space warning and wont let me install anything else until I remove something.
I use apps 2 sd pro which was the free app on amazon a long time ago. It is telling me that I have 39.04MB available out of 498.38MB total on my phone. I have moved every possible app that will let me to my sd card. The are 40 apps that are left on my phone though that can not be moved and are the standard things I always use and dont want to get rid of. Things like maps, market, music, flash, etc.
I've added up the size of all of the apps installed to the phone storage and it comes to about 162MB. How are 162MB's of apps taking up 498MB of space. Where did the other 336MB go?
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I've run out of app storage space on my phone. Its given me a low storage space warning and wont let me install anything else until I remove something.
I use apps 2 sd pro which was the free app on amazon a long time ago. It is telling me that I have 39.04MB available out of 498.38MB total on my phone. I have moved every possible app that will let me to my sd card. The are 40 apps that are left on my phone though that can not be moved and are the standard things I always use and dont want to get rid of. Things like maps, market, music, flash, etc.
I've added up the size of all of the apps installed to the phone storage and it comes to about 162MB. How are 162MB's of apps taking up 498MB of space. Where did the other 336MB go?
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Epic will raise "Low memory" warning when phone has less then 50Mb of free memory.
Clearing the cache for some programs will make it go away.
Open Samsung program manager and it has all stats for available memory on the last two tabs.
The other 336 MB is the operating system and system apps.
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I thought the phone had 1GB of ROM though. And that about 500MB of it was for the OS, and the other 500MB was for apps. Is this not how it is? Is it only 500MB of ROM and I only get about 160MB for apps after the OS takes the rest of the space?
The Galaxy II has the 1G, we get 512MB.
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kennyglass123 said:
The Galaxy II has the 1G, we get 512MB.
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Kenny the epic has 1gb of rom 512 mb of ram. The SGSII has 16 gb rom and 1gb of ram.
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Op did u clear the apps cache? also is your phone rooted?
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Kenny the epic has 1gb of rom 512 mb of ram. The SGSII has 16 gb rom and 1gb of ram.
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Acxcording to this it is 512 MB ROM and I only see 485MB listed in the applications storage.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Epic-4G_id4720
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If you are using a froyo rom, you can install an app called move2sd enabler, follow the instructions and it will make more apps able to be moved to the sd card, rescan with apps2sd and it will do the rest.
I wonder the same thing. I moved all my apps to the SD card using Titanium Backup,but still running low on space on the internal memory. So the question is what is taking up the memory? If you look at a app in Manage applications you see the storage breakdown. Total,Applications,Data,Cache, and their respective sizes. Here is the deal, you can move your applications to the sd card but the data stays on the internal memory. The data is all your preferences for the app like saves for a game or bookmarks in a browser,things like that. To find more room on internal memory find a cache cleaner in the market. Delete Pictures on your messaging they too are stored in internal memory. Hope this is helps
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I wonder the same thing. I moved all my apps to the SD card using Titanium Backup,but still running low on space on the internal memory. So the question is what is taking up the memory? If you look at a app in Manage applications you see the storage breakdown. Total,Applications,Data,Cache, and their respective sizes. Here is the deal, you can move your applications to the sd card but the data stays on the internal memory. The data is all your preferences for the app like saves for a game or bookmarks in a browser,things like that. To find more room on internal memory find a cache cleaner in the market. Delete Pictures on your messaging they too are stored in internal memory. Hope this is helps
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There is no option to install apps on your sd card with Titanium. It only backs up a copy of your apps. You need to go into Settings>applications>manage applications and click on every app and move them to sd/usb storage that allows you (not greyed out).
Titanium has a batch option to move all apps2sd or internal memory.
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Titanium has a batch option to move all apps2sd or internal memory.
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Thanks,
I didnt know about the batch option to move to apps2sd, i just did it one at a time.(long press on the app in Titanium brings up the option) Just remember don't put apps that use widgets on SDcard.
I would be careful using titanium to move apps to the sd card. Some apps just can't be moved to sd card, widget apps will break if not in internal memory, and a lot of system apps can't be moved from the system side of the rom. Titanium doesn't care it will move everything if you tell it to weather it breaks it or not. Just saying use care if using titanum to do this.
I'd start with settings, applications, manage, then the sd option at top. Move everything you can that way first before going to other options to move apps.
Also if you use a particular app often it will run faster if left in phone memory then off the sd card.
Use adb or terminal emulator and check /data/log for dmp files. I've had to clean up several times and did the trick.
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Titanium has a batch option to move all apps2sd or internal memory.
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Holy crap! I never scrolled down the list in batch operations. My bad...thank you sir!
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I thought I had a lot of apps...still haven't ran out of room on the epic. But I do have to say I don't have many games.
you can save some space by using the option in Titanium Backup to merge updates for system apps.
I have this same problem too. I deleted a lot of unused Apps and moved any others to SD. I do not have the option to clear cache from any App. I even deleted all my messages and entire call log and still says internal memory is full. When I add up all my Apps memory its less than 150MB. Its really annoying. Out of curioiousity what ROM is everybody with this promblem running?
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I have this same problem too. I deleted a lot of unused Apps and moved any others to SD. I do not have the option to clear cache from any App. I even deleted all my messages and entire call log and still says internal memory is full. When I add up all my Apps memory its less than 150MB. Its really annoying. Out of curioiousity what ROM is everybody with this promblem running?
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check /data/log you may find some dump files that need to be deleted.
yeah, do I really need to move app2sd for Galaxy Note? What's benefit if I do this?
I was previously using Nexus One, and of course I need it bcoz not enough internal space. But now Galaxy Note has like at least 14Gb, so I really need a move? Will it save more battery if app2sd?
of the 16gb we are given, only 2gb is allocated to apps. although most apps are smart nowadays and will install the bulk of the game data to the SD card, or in our case, the HDD.
wont really save more battery if you use apps to sd.
and you dont need to install apps to SD. its somewhat integrated into gingerbread. just go to settings, applications, manage applications, tap on the application, and theres a 'move to sd card' button here.
I used a 1Gb partition for apps2sd on my Nexus One, so 2Gb is plenty for me.
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Souai said:
of the 16gb we are given, only 2gb is allocated to apps. although most apps are smart nowadays and will install the bulk of the game data to the SD card, or in our case, the HDD.
wont really save more battery if you use apps to sd.
and you dont need to install apps to SD. its somewhat integrated into gingerbread. just go to settings, applications, manage applications, tap on the application, and theres a 'move to sd card' button here.
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oh wtf?! only allocated 2Gb for apps?! that's ridiculous! waste of the rest of free space! bcoz my mp3s are in external 32Gb card and more than enough.
Without any apps2sd for now, I still have 784Mb free....
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oh wtf?! only allocated 2Gb for apps?! that's ridiculous! waste of the rest of free space! bcoz my mp3s are in external 32Gb card and more than enough.
Without any apps2sd for now, I still have 784Mb free....
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looks like you've downloaded a lot, lol. just use the apps to sd integrated into gingerbread that i mentioned above.
pretty much all manufacturers stick with 2gb as the general amount of space to allocate for apps. they have to account for the average media user - which will use more music and video than apps, and then the power user - which will use more apps/games than music and videos.
on my old n900, it was possible to resize the apps partition, im sure theres someone out there who knows how to do it for android if you need more space.
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looks like you've downloaded a lot, lol. just use the apps to sd integrated into gingerbread that i mentioned above.
pretty much all manufacturers stick with 2gb as the general amount of space to allocate for apps. they have to account for the average media user - which will use more music and video than apps, and then the power user - which will use more apps/games than music and videos.
on my old n900, it was possible to resize the apps partition, im sure theres someone out there who knows how to do it for android if you need more space.
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Yes, many useful apps for daily use for me. now many new Android apps are in larger size and no app2sd function unless you root it, but I am not gonna root my Galaxy Note. Before I thought it's like iPhone, all spaces can use for apps... Sigh...
I did root for my Nexus One bcoz it had only 500mb for apps @@
Souai said:
of the 16gb we are given, only 2gb is allocated to apps. although most apps are smart nowadays and will install the bulk of the game data to the SD card, or in our case, the HDD.
wont really save more battery if you use apps to sd.
and you dont need to install apps to SD. its somewhat integrated into gingerbread. just go to settings, applications, manage applications, tap on the application, and theres a 'move to sd card' button here.
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Hi Souai, what can you say about this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332244
Someone there says you can't fully utilize the Note's sd card for apps because of the directory structure, although another one was confident that you can indeed install apps to your sd card.
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Hi Souai, what can you say about this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332244
Someone there says you can't fully utilize the Note's sd card for apps because of the directory structure, although another one was confident that you can indeed install apps to your sd card.
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its the same as was on my atrix. not everyone uses SD cards, and SD cards are also removable, so rather than having people hotswap an SD card and lose some of their apps when using another app function, manufacturers have started renaming the onboard storage as 'SDCard' in an attempt to make it more usable for consumers.
so if its like my atrix, moving it to the SD card will just move it to the onboard storage. for the OP, its fine since it will use the other large chunk of the 16gb onboard storage that he hasnt really used yet.
dunno about needing root access to run apps to sd. it ran fine for me on my atrix on froyo without root access. but then due to the labelling structure of the onboard storage, it just moved the data to the onboard storage.
generally, its not an issue unless you think you'll really need more than 16/32gb of apps storage in this case.
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generally, its not an issue unless you think you'll really need more than 16/32gb of apps storage in this case.
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I'm pretty sure I'll need more than 16gb or 32gb, so this looks like an issue for me. Thanks anyway.
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I'm pretty sure I'll need more than 16gb or 32gb, so this looks like an issue for me. Thanks anyway.
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I'd hate to see what your app drawer would look like with 32gb's worth of applications installed!
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I'd hate to see what your app drawer would look like with 32gb's worth of applications installed!
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I get ya, but the answer to that potential horror is "folders". I currently use an iPhone 4 and have installed over 250 apps, but I only use 3 home screens - everything is neat and tidy. I'm planning to do the same when I get the Note.
When I go to settings/storage, I see that I have 400 megs of internal storage still available. I believe all my apps are stored internally. So as long as I show space available, is there any other benefit of installing apps to the sdcard instead?
netter123 said:
When I go to settings/storage, I see that I have 400 megs of internal storage still available. I believe all my apps are stored internally. So as long as I show space available, is there any other benefit of installing apps to the sdcard instead?
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Well if you're a person who installs a ton of apps on their phone, then having an sdcard for extra storage isn't a bad idea.
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No, there's no benefit whatsoever in having the apps installed on SD card instead of internal memory. As long as you have enough internal memory to hold all the apps you want - moving them to SD card will just slow the loading of the phone, the loading of the apps themselves, will disable the apps when you're mounting the SD card on PC, and might create some other various mild annoyances.