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I've had my HD2 for about a week now. I've installed maybe 3 or 4 apps directly to the device (not to SD Card). I'm now in the situation of not being able to d/l any videos etc. due to having insufficient memory! I can't believe it!!!
Device total storage stands at 200.40MB
Used storage= 189.02MB
Free storage= 11.38MB
However below this info my phone is showing ''Free program storage'' as being 178.38MB. While my SD card is showing Free Memory being at 1453.95MB.
Would the solution be to transfer everything to SD card and only install to the SD card in future?
Yep I would, saves the phones internal memory
I install any non-system apps to the card, anything that needs access to the system files goes on my phone
Found this article on a blog:
Just go on google and search "windows mobile marketplace:choose where to install"
Click the 3rd one down-DarkBlog
(Apologies for not placing a direct link, I'm a new member, so It won't allow me to put outside links right now, sorry for the inconvenience)
It might help you a little?
Gonna have a look at that, looks good
LINK:
http://blog.idlezone.org/post/2010/01/11/Windows-Mobile-MarketPlace-:-choose-where-to-install
GadgetTechPlus said:
Found this article on a blog:
Just go on google and search "windows mobile marketplace:choose where to install"
Click the 3rd one down-DarkBlog
(Apologies for not placing a direct link, I'm a new member, so It won't allow me to put outside links right now, sorry for the inconvenience)
It might help you a little?
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Thank you. That's really helpful.
These reports of low memory are really starting to bug me.
It would appear that there is something going on that is not fully understand because there is no way that you should run out of phone storage memory with only 4 apps installed!
A serious in depth investigation is needed to unearth the cause.
I have 27 apps installed and I have 152Mb of storage memory left.
Could you tell us what ROM you are running?
Did you go to the task manager and see what is running and try ending the tasks? If you don't kill programs in there they will eat up your system memory... Specially if you are downloading a bunch of porn... Opera is probably using up a bunch.
crisisinthecity said:
Did you go to the task manager and see what is running and try ending the tasks? If you don't kill programs in there they will eat up your system memory... Specially if you are downloading a bunch of porn... Opera is probably using up a bunch.
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Thats not the memory the OP was talking about. Unless I've got it all wrong! Or you have!
I think you are referring to Program memory. The OP was talking about Storage memory and how something was using it up.
This is all very strange.
Things you should definitely look at
1. Where are your camera pictures and camcorder videos stored? ---> if you select device and not storage on the camera app or camcorder app settings, then u are my friend putting pictures and videos you've taken to the sdcard...
solutions: go to ur camera app settings and look at where u are storing the pictures...
or go to ur file explorer, go to ur device's memory and check if they are there...
if they are there, then copy and paste them to ur sd card...
2. set ur outlook, yahoo e-mail and stuff to be stored in sd card, not device's memory...
3. idk what else you have in there to have that very little memory left...
Oh I missed that... My phone has 686.12 Total Storage, 190.64 used, 495.48 free. I have installed all of the apps on the Storage card though. If his says that the total storage is 200 or whatever, that sounds like the problem... Should be like a gb of total device memory between storage and programs...
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phones 'device memory', but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 for tips on freeing some space. The HTC Album cache is my biggest storage hog. Even then, like you, I have just a few programs installed to my internal store and hardly any memory left. The UK version has less storage than the USA HD2 which makes matters worse.
maybe for the euro hd2, cleartemp could help. It can help find those caches and delete them regularly.
I have the tmous version and flash all the time so I don't have that problem.
Also look for the youtube cache. I've heard it can get pretty big if you look at a lot of youtube vids.
edit: go find cleartemp. There are loads of stuff it can clear for you.
I found 10mb under thumbs.db alone.
Not to mention a few mb for google maps and for opera cache each.
you can also add custom folders to be cleaned as well. I haven't looked too much into it, but maybe I should.
Just remember that caches help your phone run faster, so don't erase them unless you need the memory.
This thread has good suggestions. But most are usual recommendations that will help but perhaps not resolve the issue completely (well a couple of posts do mention temp issues). I had a similar experience recently.
A couple of facts:
1. I install all my apps into the main memory. Never had issues. Opera, IE cache, temps all there by default.
2. I download and save on SD. Music, films, pictures, documents, Android are all there.
3. Still I have plenty of room for storage.
And then I suddenly had that warning!
The cause was temp made by the default ZIP utility that used up almost all my storage space. That utility works fine until I wanted to uncompress 160 mb zip from SD into another SD folder. It started uncompressing, used all storage temp space, gave me error, and closed. It didn't clean the temp though!
I cleaned a bit manually and then installed SK tools that cleaned my device properly and everything is fine now. It is very simple issue and similar to running out of disk space on a PC.
Bottom line: it is unlikely that usual apps use so much storage. I bet on downloads and big user files left in storage and finally huge temp files as leftovers of unsuccessful uncompressing for example.
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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I'm running Fresh 3.5.0.1 rom rooted and such
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So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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Maybe it's browser cache? Does the contacts storage also include text messages?
I've never used Apps2SD but if it works like the native 2.2 SD storage then it doesn't completely move apps to the SD card. I'm pretty sure that the App itself is stored in the internal storage and only non-essential data is moved to the SD card.
Nope already cleared browser caches.
SMS messages are under 5mb, (already had to fix that issue when having 3000+ messages started killing my sms program)
But whats weird about this whole thing is that it's not like i went on an app installing spree. I installed all these apps long ago and haven't messed with it much, then one day i get the low storage space issue.
try "disk usage" in the market. its free, and it should show you what's using all your free space.
dschoenike
Cool this works, shows:
Data
Applications 310MB
Contacts storage 157.3MB
System data 78MB
Free space 39MB
Guess i'll start digging through it
mastermarc said:
this is only good for your storage card.... Same thing i can do by plugging it into my computer.
I want the same thing but for internal memory
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really? when I use it, it shows storage card and application storage. sorry, thought that's what you were looking for (application storage I mean).
dschoenike
oh cool. glad its working for you.
Award Tour said:
I've never used Apps2SD but if it works like the native 2.2 SD storage then it doesn't completely move apps to the SD card. I'm pretty sure that the App itself is stored in the internal storage and only non-essential data is moved to the SD card.
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This seems to be the case, i've got (303MB-157contact storage=146MB) in "Applications" even though the apps2sd program only shows something like 76mb
57MB under "System Data" Anyone else know if this is reasonable?
Uninstalled a few apps, namely the video messenger add on for yahoo (until it goes down in size or i actually find someone to video chat with)
so i'm up to 66MB free...guess that will be ok for a while.
not sure whats normal regarding system data space, but I'm at 12.2mb, im running cm6.1. just an fyi cause I saw you were in the 50's.
mastermarc said:
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd.
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I almost forgot to mention that you must be rooted and have a rom that supports it. I use myn's.
If your evo phone is root, there's an app in the market call install manager , you'll be able to install your app on the SD Card, with no problem.
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Sounds like you have a **** load of apps. I have like 20 right now but I have 350 MB of free space. I imagine I would have to have a hundred in order to be that low. However I am rooted and I got rid of most of the Sprint crap.
Sent from my EVO 3G!
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
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I'm having the same issue. How does one move the dalvik to sd?
Swyped from my EVO
To enable dalvik to cache you must flash a rom that has that feature. I don't believe its possible with stock/non superuser (unrooted phone)
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
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Could you explain the part in bold? Anyway here is what i did and what my results were.
So since i have a rooted rom i went ahead and installed this via the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
Doing this alone brought me up to 81MB (from 39)
Then i followed the instructions for the command line interface of darktremors a2sd here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
I opened up terminal and typed in:
cachesd
-Moves Dalvik cache files to the ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your secure digital card. Creates Dalvik Cache to SD flag.
It immediately restarted and now it shows i'm up to 174MB available space
I booted back into the terminal and ran
/system/bin/a2sd check
I found an X next to one of the things about apps, so i ran the repair.
/system/bin/a2sd repair
It forced closed 2 apps and then restarted itself
At this point it went down to 130MB on reboot
Went back into a2sd and ran check again, the [X] on the apps part is now a [!]
So i ran
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall
Waited for that to do its thing, force closed something or other and then rebooted itself
Upon reboot i'm back up to 173MB free, rerunning a2sd check shows no [X]'s so that all looks good.
Everything seems to be working as of now with a good amount of free space so that's where i'm at.
If you move apps with widgets to the sd with apps to sd, the widgets won't load. You gotta leave those on the phone.
Are you using just the native froyo "move to sd" kind of functionality or are you using the DarkTremor's Apps2sd root functionality?
It sounds like you're just moving the apps that have that support moving to sd card, with the other method ANY app can be installed to your sd card.
mastermarc said:
Could you explain the part in bold? Anyway here is what i did and what my results were.
So since i have a rooted rom i went ahead and installed this via the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
Doing this alone brought me up to 81MB (from 39)
Then i followed the instructions for the command line interface of darktremors a2sd here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
I opened up terminal and typed in:
cachesd
-Moves Dalvik cache files to the ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your secure digital card. Creates Dalvik Cache to SD flag.
It immediately restarted and now it shows i'm up to 174MB available space
I booted back into the terminal and ran
/system/bin/a2sd check
I found an X next to one of the things about apps, so i ran the repair.
/system/bin/a2sd repair
It forced closed 2 apps and then restarted itself
At this point it went down to 130MB on reboot
Went back into a2sd and ran check again, the [X] on the apps part is now a [!]
So i ran
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall
Waited for that to do its thing, force closed something or other and then rebooted itself
Upon reboot i'm back up to 173MB free, rerunning a2sd check shows no [X]'s so that all looks good.
Everything seems to be working as of now with a good amount of free space so that's where i'm at.
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That's good. What I mean about the bold part is that anything you install will automatically go to the sd. If you create a widget or shortcut, upon reboot it probably won't show unless you do a hot boot. To avoid that, just go to settings, applications and move the app to phone and it should work fine.
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lloydcabraham said:
That's good. What I mean about the bold part is that anything you install will automatically go to the sd. If you create a widget or shortcut, upon reboot it probably won't show unless you do a hot boot. To avoid that, just go to settings, applications and move the app to phone and it should work fine.
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Ah sounds good, i can manage that when i run into the issue.
What have you done to your contacts to make them so huge? Custom high res pictures for everyone? 10,000 contacts? I have a decent amount of contacts with some customizations and it takes up <10mb. You're definitely losing a lot of space there...
Not really sure, i probably don't have more than 200 or so contacts, could have something to do with all the facebook pictures being synced in or something.
I have just bought an Archos 101 16gb and downloaded just a few small apps.
I got a "Low on Space" notification today....but i cant understand why. Under /settings/staorage in shows under "Internal Storage" total space 14.44GB and available space 14.15GB.
I dont have an SD card yet
On system storage it says Avaialable space 25.25MB
Can someone help me understand whats going on here. Whats the differnce between Internal Storage and System storage and where do apps get stored by default....
Many thanks
Hey Pete,
System Storage is storage for apps that you can't put on internal storage or and SD card. Now, in order for you to only have 25mb free, you must have put a lot of data on there as well. I have a whole boatload of apps on my system and still have 162mb free on system storage (most are not on the SD). If you were to think of system storage in computer terms, it would be like RAM memory.
Internal storage is the storage where you put your data. Think of this storage as your "hard drive."
The next storage is, of course, the SD card. This is another place to store your data.
Finally, there is external storage. This is for things like flash drives and external hard drives.
By default apps load to the system storage area. You can go into your system preferences and move some to SD once you get an SD...but seriously, something else is at work for you to only have 25mb free right now.
ExploreMN said:
Hey Pete,
System Storage is storage for apps that you can't put on internal storage or and SD card. Now, in order for you to only have 25mb free, you must have put a lot of data on there as well. I have a whole boatload of apps on my system and still have 162mb free on system storage (most are not on the SD). If you were to think of system storage in computer terms, it would be like RAM memory.
Internal storage is the storage where you put your data. Think of this storage as your "hard drive."
The next storage is, of course, the SD card. This is another place to store your data.
Finally, there is external storage. This is for things like flash drives and external hard drives.
By default apps load to the system storage area. You can go into your system preferences and move some to SD once you get an SD...but seriously, something else is at work for you to only have 25mb free right now.
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Thank you that. Really helpful. So on my internal storage or "Hard Drive" I just have two apps, Aldiko and World Newspapers, totally 9mb.....
I had a look under /manage applications/downloaded and their is the AppsLib icon with 120MB next to it. That cant be right surely. This is just the Archos AppsLib app..... The MArket app is only 2.89 MB. If I look at the Application Infor for AppsLib under storage it says Total 120MB, Application 1MB and Data 119MB. What is this 119MB???
Also how do I set up storage preferences and what should they be.
Many thanks
OK, sotday the problem has changed. The missing 119MB of System storage has re-appeared. It seems that the AppsLib app which had shown 119MB of data cleared itself before I could uninstall it. No Idea why it had created 119MB of data in the first place.
So, can someone explain this for me. Not sure Im upto spead with this whole storage regime yet :-(
under /settings/storage "System Storage" was showing 119MB available.
I then downloaded Angry Birds (1.87 MB) and Angry Birds Seasons (1.99MB). Then checking /settings/storage "System Storage" now shows 104MB.
Next checking /settings/applications/manage applications and then clicking the "On Internal Strorage" tab I see the two Angry Birds apps there on Internal Strorage.
So my question is how come my "System Storage" has gone down by 15MB when the two apps only add up to less than 4MB. But, as manage apps shows them on the internal storage i.e. my 16gb storage, why did my system storage available space change at all. I'm very confused........
Update. I just checed AppsLib under /settings/applications/manage applications and its showing under application infor "Stroage" Total 41.46MB, Appkication 1.0MB and Data 40.46 MB. Whats going on here. What is the 40.46MB of data made up of. Its eating my System Storage.....Why?
Pete917 said:
Update. I just checed AppsLib under /settings/applications/manage applications and its showing under application infor "Stroage" Total 41.46MB, Appkication 1.0MB and Data 40.46 MB. Whats going on here. What is the 40.46MB of data made up of. Its eating my System Storage.....Why?
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have you installed Dolphin Browser HD or something similar?
In the options you can set cache to write into System Storage....
You should set the option to write cache into sdcard instead!!
Remember first to delete all caches...
I don't know if in the standard browser there is a similar option...
Honestly Pete, I have no idea what to tell you. I mean I'm not doing anything special and I have about 60 apps installed and still have 120mb of system storage, about 5gb of my 8gb internal storage and my 8gb SD card is maxed out with movies, music, documents, and some e-books I'm reading.
I have angry birds (not seasons...not feeling Christmas at the moment) and several other games as well.
I haven't done anything with the apps other than hit the "install" button. I know there are a lot I can move to SD, but since I don't need to I haven't.
The system memory does jump around though. As you use applications, load and unload, etc. Try using Archos's task manager to stop all apps, wait like 10 seconds (1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus type 10 seconds...) , then check your storage. I bet that might be the issue. Hell, it almost has to be!
ExploreMN said:
Honestly Pete, I have no idea what to tell you. I mean I'm not doing anything special and I have about 60 apps installed and still have 120mb of system storage, about 5gb of my 8gb internal storage and my 8gb SD card is maxed out with movies, music, documents, and some e-books I'm reading.
I have angry birds (not seasons...not feeling Christmas at the moment) and several other games as well.
I haven't done anything with the apps other than hit the "install" button. I know there are a lot I can move to SD, but since I don't need to I haven't.
The system memory does jump around though. As you use applications, load and unload, etc. Try using Archos's task manager to stop all apps, wait like 10 seconds (1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus type 10 seconds...) , then check your storage. I bet that might be the issue. Hell, it almost has to be!
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Thankyou. I think Im getting there. I noticed that in /settings/apps/manage apps the Archos AppsLib was showing 120MB. Weird I thought. So looking that the App Info for it said App 1MB data 119MB.
So I have uninstalled, re-booted and then sideloaded the latest build of AppsLib from Arcos. No App Info shows 1MB. Magically Angry Birds re-appeared too ...
This sounds like it has something to do with the problem and I now have to keep an eye on AppsLib to make sure it doesnt start eating System Storage Again.....
This seems very unusual to me. Maybe something is coded incorrectly by Archos in their latest release of AppsLib. Can others please tell me what amount of Data AppsLib has created on their devices? Thanks.
I havent got an external SD card yet, so I think that's going to be a must. Whats the biggest SD card that it can take? 32GB???
I should maybe also get Apps2SD. There seems a few versions out there. Who's the author of the one everyone here has loaded?
My appslib is 0.93mb of that, only .02mb is the data part.
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My appslib is 0.93mb of that, only .02mb is the data part.
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Thanks. Mine is curretly 1.05MB. The data part being 0,05MB. I'll keep an eye on it now I have re-installed to make sure it doesnt creep up again. What version are you running?
the most recent one.
Im still having problems in thw whole storage and could do with some help.
The System Storage is listed as 299.44mb available when I look in App2sd. It shows I have 86.29mb available.
Using App 2 SD it shows the list of immovable apps on the System Storage. When I add up their indivdiual file sizes it comes to 65.919mb.
So where is the other 147.23mb gone?
Is System Storage where the Android OS sits? If so would that account for 147mb?
Many thanks Guys.
Pete917 said:
Im still having problems in thw whole storage and could do with some help.
The System Storage is listed as 299.44mb available when I look in App2sd. It shows I have 86.29mb available.
Using App 2 SD it shows the list of immovable apps on the System Storage. When I add up their indivdiual file sizes it comes to 65.919mb.
So where is the other 147.23mb gone?
Is System Storage where the Android OS sits? If so would that account for 147mb?
Many thanks Guys.
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No, the OS is on a different partition, specifically a mounted squashfs. There will always be more data on the /data partition(System Storage) than is listed in the Applications menu. Keep in mind all the System Apps (ones you didn't install) will still need to store databases, settings, etc. on the /data partition, because the OS partition is read only.
147mb seems like alot, but my Archos has about the same amount of storage available(~86mb), and I have about the same amount of installed apps(~65mb), so I guess it's right.
msticninja said:
No, the OS is on a different partition, specifically a mounted squashfs. There will always be more data on the /data partition(System Storage) than is listed in the Applications menu. Keep in mind all the System Apps (ones you didn't install) will still need to store databases, settings, etc. on the /data partition, because the OS partition is read only.
147mb seems like alot, but my Archos has about the same amount of storage available(~86mb), and I have about the same amount of installed apps(~65mb), so I guess it's right.
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Thank you for answering that. I thought i was going nuts loomlking fot the missing storage
Pete917 said:
Thank you for answering that. I thought i was going nuts loomlking fot the missing storage
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No problem. I never really did the math, but it seems like an awful lot is used by non-download apps. I may have to do some crawling through the file system to see what's using so much.
msticninja said:
No problem. I never really did the math, but it seems like an awful lot is used by non-download apps. I may have to do some crawling through the file system to see what's using so much.
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If you discover anything please let me know. 147mb seems a lot to have gone missing
I contacted Archos support and they gave this answer:
"Dear Customer,
The information given by the 3thd party software is not correct, we do not support 3thrd part software.
Kind Regards,
Archos Technical Support"
So they are not helpful at all. Given the amount of money we pay for these devices you'd think they wouldnt just dissmiss my request for support and perhaps try and help even a little bit....
Do you both think that an operatingsystem can run without any memoryneeds?
Android is build for small memory devices but it still needs some memory or all that ui, threading, file and other services.
It is a bare Linux which consumes around 100MB depending on the features you have installed/switched on.
I'm not rooted, completely stock 4.1.1.
I have a persistent "Storage space running out, some system functions may not work" notification, even though the storage settings page (pics 1-2) says I have plenty of space in both my internal storage and SD card. When I go to the manage apps page (3rd pic), though, it gives a different story, which is weird. I also can't download or update apps.
I did some searching and apparently this problem has happened to other people on other phones, particularly samsungs it seems like.
One person suggested using the DiskUsage app to find out what's taking up space. I tried to download it, and it said I had insufficient storage available, even though it's a 155 kb application. I deleted Skype, which is ~24 MB, and I still couldn't download the app because of "insufficient storage." Restarting the phone did nothing.
It seems like this has been happening on and off for a while, but I don't think I've tried to install any new apps recently and I've just ignored the failed updates. I can't remember exactly when it started, or anything I might have done differently around that time.
Any ideas?
That can happen when there's junk in your cache partition as well.. like rogue .apk's. I'd try to clean your cache partition first.
So I hooked it up to my computer and manually went through folders to find out where the space was being taken up. Turns out it was my podcast app (Acast). There was a gig or so of podcasts saved on the internal storage that didn't show up as being related to apps or anything.
I have a rooted S5 w/ 16GB of internal storage, but I'm rarely able to update/download new apps. I have to scrounge for apps to delete for a half hour just to get it to let me download a new app or update an app. I have moved just about all the apps I can to the SD card (32GB, less than half used).
In the storage screen it says I have used 14.88GB in apps, and <20MB in everything else with "Free space" around 400-500MB. I usually have to get it to mid 500s before it will let me do anything on it. To make matters worse, somehow the apps I uninstall keep reinstalling themselves.
My problem seems to be this big "Applications" thing - which isn't right. I have some large apps, but they keep all their data on the SD card (like podcasts with PocketCasts). On my applications manager, from top down in size - facebook @ 190MB, google play services at 156MB, google app at 134MB... dropping off fairly quickly after that, so no way its 15GB worth.
What am I missing? Do others constantly have this problem? It is getting ridiculous! No reason that I can see that there should be a big bunch of stuff that is counted as used when it isn't.
Some things I've tried:
I heard about something the dumpstate/logcat, I cleared it but nothing got better
I used adb to set the default install location to the external SD card (I forget the exact command), as far as I can tell it is still trying to install in the internal SD card.
Any suggestions or more information needed?
EDIT:
More information thanks to DiskUsage (forgot I can download APKs - which install fine). It shows my internal SD card breakdown as 10796MB overall, 2612MB app data, 7815MB "System data", and 340MB free space (plus some other misc. that makes up the difference). I don't have a great understanding of how this is partitioned, but I'd imagine the ~16GB has 5GB off limits for ROM stuff? Then what is taking up nearly 8GB as "System data"? Is this normal?
EDIT 2:
Looks like it was creating duplicates in data/app (on a lot of phones I think this is data/app-lib). I used root explorer to purge the duplicates, and now have nearly 3GB free instead of a couple hundred MB!
I have the same problems but I use DiskUsage from the Play Store. Most of the time it's my cache for the download manager has several gigs of wasted space. Clearing cache fixes it for me.
Eodmule said:
I have the same problems but I use DiskUsage from the Play Store. Most of the time it's my cache for the download manager has several gigs of wasted space. Clearing cache fixes it for me.
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I'll check that out the next time I am able to install an app but I should mention I also tap the "cached data" in the storage manager thing (in settings). Usually doesn't work I also use CleanMaster, which seems like it works, some times.
EDIT: Just checked it out, that's awesome! I have been looking for this kind of app, I use WinDirStat on windows that does something similar.
mrzeus7 said:
EDIT: Just checked it out, that's awesome! I have been looking for this kind of app, I use WinDirStat on windows that does something similar.
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I use WinDirStat also. I really like the visual presentation of both.
Here ya go. You can try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66304384
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