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Is there somewhere that sells a bigger battery. i know the x1 comes with a big one but it still only lasts 2 to 3 days max
Ummm...what you smoking man? This is fantastic batterfly life, and you must not use your phone much as with 20-30 mins. of calls, 1 hr of wifi, lots of gprs, I am down to 40%--which is much better than I used to get with my Kaiser. And if you use 3G all day; forget it...battery dead by 5pm.
dont phone much, text a lot but that dont seem to effect the battery much. i think its where i use gprs (cant get 3g where i live) to check my emails (checks every 5 mins) that is using up my battery. first wm phone, i used to get about a weeks worth with my se w960 phone.
Heh, I remember having a Nokia that used to go a couple days, but ever since I went to WinMo I am more than happy with a full day. Smartphones are made to be charged every night if you use them to the fullest--big screens and movies and music and gps all take power;i think you are getting great life already...
My first phones had battery lifetimes between 2 and 10 days, the peak was the SonyEricsson T68i wih had a lifetime of 2 weeks+ (first LiIon-Batteries I think). Then the bigger screens with more colors and more functions drained the power even faster so that the lifetime reached its lovest level with the SE w900i (2 days) and the Nokia N95 (hardly 2 days). So I am happy with the 3 days of the Xperia. Additional, I now check EMails, use the calendar an the internet quite often which I haven't done before and even so the battery lasts longer than the Nokia N95's.
I've got a nokia N70 it's battery life is awesome I haven't charged it in years!
oh yes, I haven't used it either, worthless piece of tat!
fards said:
I've got a nokia N70 it's battery life is awesome I haven't charged it in years!
oh yes, I haven't used it either, worthless piece of tat!
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This may not be an answerable question but it doesn't cost a thing to ask.
I have a used Elf I bought a couple weeks ago. If it is functioning properly and battery is functioning properly what is best and worst battery life I might expect. I know there are a lot of variables, but I'd like a ball park estimate regardless of how your or my phone is set up.
What's the longest time between charge and the shortest you've experienced.
I am breaking in a new battery 18 hours is my best. And sometimes I can see the percentage charged actually drop.
Thanks
Depends on what you are doing with it. My HTC Touch Enhanced only lasts about 4 hours if i have WIFI and Phone on and am using it constantly to watch videos, play games or TomTom Sat Nav. But if its not being used and just has the phone on in standby them it goes for 4 days+ with a few calls or texts. I can often see the battery charge dropping before my eyes so dont worry to much.
In summary WiFi eats the battery and having the screen on and turned up bright takes away the charge very quick. If you just use it like a phone and stop playing with it you will find it will last longer than most mobiles.
Hope this helps
A big handycap of the touch is it's battery mine using wi-fi, tomtom, phone calls and sms last about a day but if i listen to music or watch a concert/video than it lasts about 8h i also must say that i had my elf overclocked and they say that it's battery life is dropping also due to this. I'm now trying something new and don't have my elf overclocked just to see what the batt. usage is...... Can anyone tell me where to buy an 2400ma battery for elf?? I can't use e-bay
It all depends on your usage really...if you use only the phone to make and receive calls that too on light usage....a fully charged battery should last at least 48 hours. But if you use the phone to stream media (youtube etc) or browse, or listen to music and you have extensive phone usage as well...be prepared to get a good ding in your battery life. Given this type of usage, your phone wont last more than 6-8 hours. Wifi and Bluetooth also drain battery big time.
Just a thank you
I appreciate you guys responding and hope more will jump in.
If I had to choose between the size and weight of the Elf and the a better battery life, I'd take the size and weight. Having said that, I moved from an HP RW6815 to the Elf and was really surprised by the battery life of the Elf. I guess I didn't do my due diligence .
Of the 3 main weakness of the Elf - battery life, cpu speed and memory - battery life appears to be the one that not overcomeable.
I read somewhere that battery technology really hasn't kept up.
It will take some management but I'll certainly continue to use the elf with pleasure.
2009 will be a great year because a new technology will be out offering battery charges up to 6400 mA! which is technically 5 times bigger then the current 1390 mA ones But i dont know if the new technology will be used to create those batterys especially for the "old" htc touch
At least i hope it!!!
gone in 8 hours?
I just got it today. and it is already for sale. Android is so crappy compared to WinMO. I dont even know how to sync that thing with a PC
Sent PM's to both of ya!
would it work with t-mobile??
Nightmate. 3 hours with the GPS on and it died. Had to find my way home with blind luck.
3 hours with a gps on is not to bad. Wifi, bluetooth and GPS are all extremely power hungry and will all kill your battery if left on. This is the same with any device.
A brand new battery will not give you much life. You need to use it a while -- after several cycles, it will give you much better results.
Obviously, you work for microshaft and your job is to spread lies in order to boost sales on a product that is clearly getting spanked due to extreme inferiority. NOTHING is worse than winmo, and right now, NOTHING is better than android.
sumitescp said:
I just got it today. and it is already for sale. Android is so crappy compared to WinMO. I dont even know how to sync that thing with a PC
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I get 1.5 days with with WiFi off and 1 day with WiFi on.
about the same as the iPhone, slightly better than the WinMo phones I have owned
macsbac said:
3 hours with a gps on is not to bad. Wifi, bluetooth and GPS are all extremely power hungry and will all kill your battery if left on. This is the same with any device.
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After being fully charged, I can listen to music for four hours straight with my Nokia 5800, have the GPS on for two hours, and surf the web with 3.5G for an additional hour - and it still has 90% of the battery left Compared to the X1, which runs out of juice in a day pretty much regardless of what you do with it... I was going to buy the Magic when it gets released here in Sweden shortly, but if the battery is crap, I might wait for the Samsung I7500.
lol.
90% on the nokia battery scale, which is really about 5% in reality....
Honestly, nokia are well known for fecking with their battery indicators. Was doing something similar with the N95 and from it showing only 1 bar missing, it went down to 0 bars in under 30 minutes....
As for this magic, i've been lucky enough to have one since an early FW and HW revision, back in February. Have no problem getting over 1 day on it regularly with the way i use it, but yes, Wi-Fi on, or GPS for any length of time, and it drops quickly. These are power hungry and use the same power, if not more power than talk time, and having more than one on will drain the battery very quickly.
no better and no worse than any other smartphone available at the moment, and it definitely gets better over the first few weeks as a few cycles get into the battery...
Hi,
In my case, 2 - 3 days. Details of my HTC magic job;
- 3 or 4 calls every day but short duration , totally, 10 min
- wifi 20 min every day
- play music 10 min in the metro
Nothing else, this is a lowest job for it and in my case, i think the duration is according to this use. Anyway, i have not got any data price and my htc magic has not got too much network traffic, only by wifi.
regards,
Before getting this phone I did my fair share of research on it and every review said the same thing, super phone...terrible battery. Now I never owned a touch screen phone before this so I had no idea what the desire, Samsung or iphone battery life's were like and all these reviews were causing me some concern and led me to believe that my phone would be dying over 9 hours or so due to lack of power.
Now having had my desire HD a few days I just want to say wow what was all the fuss about? I get a full 24 hours use out of a full charge without taking any precautions to save the battery. When I'm at home I leave my wifi on continuously, it was on for a good 14 hours yesterday. When I go out I switch over to 3g and turn wifi off...only used this for an hour or too since I wasn't out much. And remember I only got this phone a few days ago...so the usage has been pretty heavy as I fiddle around with it, doing some web browsing, have all my accounts and widgets syncing, play a few games, making some calls. On the first day I got it yes I drained the battery in 9 hours but that was super heavy use...i.e. I didn't put it down once in those 9 house.
This phone easily makes it through 24 hours with perfectly normal use without having to worry about the power levels. Great phone and I love my first android to bits!
I'm glad to hear some positive things about the battery as Verizon has the incredible HD coming I plan to purchase when they get LTE.One thing though that you may not know is your wifi wasn't running continuos, it shuts off when your screen shuts off and comes back on when you turn it back on unless you fool with the wifi settings and tell it "never" turn off. But overall I'm glad to hear that
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Does it drop the wifi when the screen is off by default? Not so on my standard desire as far as I am aware - unless this is something new in the HD rom?
Good to hear the battery is lasting well according to the op. Little 3g use though it seems and it is this that cains my desire.
There seem to be some mixed opinions on the battery life. I use mine quite heavily and have to admit that the battery life isnt the best that i've had but i'm happy with it as it lasts me what i consider a 'normal' day, ie, take it off charge at 7.45AM and after a days use (calls, internet and syncing all day every 15 minutes, music, wifi and bluetooth left on) and it gets me home for around 7PM with a bit of charge left. That for me is a normal day, if I know i'm doing anything else i'll put it on charge in the office/car. If I need satnav i'll always use a charger anyway.
So... For me it's OK, but not good, could have done with a higher capacity battery.
No Battery Issues At All
I received my HTC Desire HD 2 days back and have no worries about the battery at all.
On first charge it lasted over 12 hours and I was using it VERY heavily. I'm currently on my second charge now and after 24 hours of medium to high usage, I have 40% remaining.
I always have my syncs set to update/refresh as often as possible, so mail is every 5 mins, weather every hour, facebook every hour, have Google and HTC Sense syncing too. I've also left my wireless setting to stay connected even when the phone is on standby and am getting this performance out of the battery.
So it just leads me to believe that anyone saying this phone's battery is poor must not have used a smartphone before.
And with regards to the WiFi settings, you have 3 options. Go to Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi Settings, press Menu then select Advanced. It's the Wi-Fi Sleep Policy you want to take a look at. Like I said, you have 3 options; After 15 min, Never when plugged in and Never. Someone said you can have it turn off whenever you go into standby, this is not entirely accurate. With the After 15 min option, it turns off WiFi if you are in standby for 15 mins. With Never when plugged in it's the 15 min rule again except when plugged in. With Never, it just constantly stays on.
By default it is set to Never. I've left it as this to test how much it eats up the battery and I have no issues.
P.S. It's always best to do a full charge/recharge when you have a new battery to get it to use the full capacity. Charge the phone fully and use it until it dies. Charge it fully again, not taking it off charge until done, then let it die. Do this a few times and you should see the capacity go up. After this you can charge however you like although after time (months), you may see the capacity seem to come down, in which case do this again a few times and you should be good to go.
The battery on my HTC Hero came down to lasting 12 hours after 9 months. Did this a few times and not it lasts about 36 hours.
Yes I have my wifi set to never switch off...it still does all its sync'ing and mail retrieving whilst in stand by mode. I even went into the battery usage last night before I charged it up again and it had been running on the battery for 24 hours and 15 minutes and I checked the wifi usage and it said it had been in use for 13-14 hours and it had only used a small amount of power (less than 12% if I remember correctly)
i agree..
Its just as good if not better then the other smartphones i had.
battery is good.
just keep the brightness at 30%
2 days since I charged my Desire HD and it's at 40%, much better.
Wifi to turn off after 15 mins in standby, brightness at 100%, mobile data is turned off unless I'm out of the house (in that case, I turn off wifi) and that's with Buzz's overclocked 1.5GHz kernel.
I think any time mobile data is turned off the battery life is going to sky rocket!
Fortunately, by using ultimate juice you can automate this - using wifi when available and mobile data at other times without having to manually switch. Better still, this leaves both off unless the screen is active. Made a hell of a difference to my Desire.
i keep mobile data off (only turn it on when i'm out of range of a usable wi-fi)
screen brightness is at 30%
I use "Set CPU" to lower the CPU to 256Mhz when the screen is off.
I get all my mail via gmail.
there's also a hidden app (can't remember how to start it but it's a *# code)
you cna use that to set what type of mobile network it looks for (I've defaulted to use GSM but use 3G when required).
This keeps the mobile form constantly looking for a 3G signal when youre in a bad signal area (or in the bottom of your bag!) But this won't affect data, only voice calls.
The constant looking for networks is one of the biggest drains on a mobiles battery after the screen/light.
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there's also a hidden app (can't remember how to start it but it's a *# code)
you cna use that to set what type of mobile network it looks for (I've defaulted to use GSM but use 3G when required).
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Please try and remember, I would like to experiment with this ... unless it's for the 3 network only?
I've had about 8 HTC phones in the past few years and I've always been very pleased. Lime many others before buying the DHD I did my research and got a little worried about battery life. I wish people would just post opinions for the sake of it (especially in the first day or two of use) because it's very misleading. After having the DHD for a while now I can honestly say that I'm really impressed with it especially with the battery life.
I previously owned the HTC Desire and at first had much worse battery than the DHD mainly because of the AMOLED screen and it needed some tweaking after root. At the end I was getting at 3 days of battery with all the common daily abuse.
With the DHD I got 2 days right form the start and you know what it's like in the first few days. You pull it out for no reason, play with it, show it to everybody try everything and even so it lasted 2 days. Now that I'm back to just the normal use/abuse I get 3 days with no root, no custom rom or other tweaks.
SO anyone doubting the DHD battery life, FEAR NOT it's a great device!!!
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I agree great device but could you please put your battery up on ebay for auction as I think you've got an amazing battery and could make Fair few hundred pound from it or even send to htc so they can use as prototype and make all of us replacements that lasts days like yours.
I personally think the battery sucks but with the hardware you carnt expect much more from the battery thy choose for this device.
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My battery is about a week old. It wont make it through a working day (8 hours) if i use the phone for anything. It wont even last a morning (2 hours) if I'm making calls and browsing net more intensively.
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So it just leads me to believe that anyone saying this phone's battery is poor must not have used a smartphone before.
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Not true. I've had several smart phones, and I can't last a full day doing the same things that I did with my Hero. I don't have anything syncing regularly either. Weather every 3 hours is about it.
wmfreak said:
I previously owned the HTC Desire and at first had much worse battery than the DHD mainly because of the AMOLED screen and it needed some tweaking after root. At the end I was getting at 3 days of battery with all the common daily abuse.
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3 days of use? By my reckoning the main dictator of battery life is screen on time. I find that I get 3 to 4 hours of screen on usage time out of a charge. This would equate to an hour a day to last for 3 days. Unfortunately I use my phone a lot more than that.
I'm not doubting other people's opinions, but I'm seriously starting to think that I got a dud battery or something.
Try *#*#4636#*#*
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Please try and remember, I would like to experiment with this ... unless it's for the 3 network only?
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Try *#*#4636#*#*
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Yup that's it!
*NOTE*
i'm not sure what this setting may do to your phone on your network, but take note of all settings before you have a play around...
"call" that number to get the "Testing" screen up.
go to "Phone Information"
Scroll down and change "WCDMA preferred" to "GSM auto (PRL)"
See this post for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688492
Thanks both Blinkydamo and s0litaire.
Some interesting stuff there, not sure how it will help me if at all but I guess I will have to experiment...
I have HTC's since it came from QTEK.. I had 5 HTC before Desire HD.
Before this I had a HD2 (leo), and matching the most options possible between them, this is the faster draining phone that I had after HTC diamond.
Actually I've always thought that the HD2 due to the screen size had a very good battery.
I've been using desire HD a LOT since it's the first android that I had put my hands on my own, so I can be due to that, but most of the time I getting like 5hours or less from it which is getting me frustrated for the first time. Also there is a problem with this model, they probably won't be able to do a oficial expanded battery with this type of battery slot, due to the configuration.
However, I'll try to avoid touch it too much than the "normal" and see how it goes.. But I'm pretty sure that it's way faster draining than my older HD2.
BTW, I'm using "GSM auto (PRL)"
I have owned my SGS for around 9 months now, and have been downloading roms and tweaks from xdadevs for around 8 months for my SGS. There have been countless times where I have seen claims of batter life extending to 2-3 days, I have even seen claims of 4/5 days!
These claims are ridiculous, particularly if you utilise you smart phone as a SMART PHONE, and these claims are also hugely misleading to newbies. When I first started using XDA and read about 2-3 days battery life I was worried about my phone or battery being faulty. After using the phone for a few weeks and flashing countless roms I realised that around 7 to 10% is NORMAL if you utilise your smart phone for what it is.
The people who do get 2-3 days battery life why do you own a £300 phone and use it like a £10 nokia 1100?
A smart phone has so many features for a reason - they are to be used.
My day to day use on Juwe's Smart Edition v4.3.1 XWJVH Based On Official 2.3.3*
3G/H on
about 1 hour of calls
push email for three email accounts
live wall paper
a couple of widgets which download data every 3 hours
some gaming
approx 30-50 texts a day
whatsapp
liveprofile
1-2 hours music
automatic brightness
This sort of use will give me 10-12 hours battery life.
Can anyone who do claim heavy use and get 2-3 days battery life detail their use and set-up to justify claims of heavy use and make it clear to newbies what REALLY to expect from their smart phone.
Remember, this phone has an array of brilliant feature which have been made to be utilised.
I'm a similar user and i have to say I've never had more then 13hr max and i use my phone all day every day for everything so I agree with you 13 hr is about right and i thank you for putting my mind at ease
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I have owned my SGS for around 9 months now, and have been downloading roms and tweaks from xdadevs for around 8 months for my SGS. There have been countless times where I have seen claims of batter life extending to 2-3 days, I have even seen claims of 4/5 days!
These claims are ridiculous, particularly if you utilise you smart phone as a SMART PHONE, and these claims are also hugely misleading to newbies. When I first started using XDA and read about 2-3 days battery life I was worried about my phone or battery being faulty. After using the phone for a few weeks and flashing countless roms I realised that around 7 to 10% is NORMAL if you utilise your smart phone for what it is.
The people who do get 2-3 days battery life why do you own a £300 phone and use it like a £10 nokia 1100?
A smart phone has so many features for a reason - they are to be used.
My day to day use on Juwe's Smart Edition v4.3.1 XWJVH Based On Official 2.3.3*
3G/H on
about 1 hour of calls
push email for three email accounts
live wall paper
a couple of widgets which download data every 3 hours
some gaming
approx 30-50 texts a day
whatsapp
liveprofile
1-2 hours music
automatic brightness
This sort of use will give me 10-12 hours battery life.
Can anyone who do claim heavy use and get 2-3 days battery life detail their use and set-up to justify claims of heavy use and make it clear to newbies what REALLY to expect from their smart phone.
Remember, this phone has an array of brilliant feature which have been made to be utilised.
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I have pretty much the same usage but I only switch to 3g when I need it (and not using live wallpaper because i find it distracting). 1.5-2 days battery easy.
48 hours of battery for me
Juwe's 4.3.1 based on JVH
3g/h on 24/7
wifi, gps, auto rotate on 24/7
2 hours of calls at least a day
30 to 50 sms daily
no widgets, i prefer a slick apearance
no live wallpaper
4 accounts with push from 9am to 6pm auto check every 15 minutes the rest of the time
1 hour of FM radio everyday
at least 30 minutes gametime everyday if not more
lots of internet usage
twitter : sync's every 1o minutes
facebook : sync's every 4 hours
sms/call log backup every 6 hours
watchdog software running 24/7
sync to dropbox of apps/sms/calllog/camera pictures every 12 hours
Nice post...
In total agreeance with you. I am also a user of the phone and find it silly to have to turn stuff off or go into airplane mode at night, etc. I want to use my phone and not make it an exercise in restraint.
I've also noticed that, for my use, the battery life is pretty consistent. I get about 2 days with everything on, and fairly light use. There is no 'magic' tweak that will double it and stuff like calibrating and erasing battery stats make little difference. What makes the difference is how you use it... Overclocking, bright screens, games... the more you use the less battery life you have. Use the phone, that's what it's for.
Half a day with that much use is OK... for the people who don't want to risk hooking to a charger often or on the move, I suggest buying a rechargeable portable battery pack which when plugged into the phone can recharge without AC mains; so you have a portable charger always around to fill up the phone juice whenever needed.
+1 - I've checked a lot of roms and kernels. Max I had - around 16 hours. But usually it's around 11-12 hours.
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I have owned my SGS for around 9 months now, and have been downloading roms and tweaks from xdadevs for around 8 months for my SGS. There have been countless times where I have seen claims of batter life extending to 2-3 days, I have even seen claims of 4/5 days!
These claims are ridiculous, particularly if you utilise you smart phone as a SMART PHONE, and these claims are also hugely misleading to newbies. When I first started using XDA and read about 2-3 days battery life I was worried about my phone or battery being faulty. After using the phone for a few weeks and flashing countless roms I realised that around 7 to 10% is NORMAL if you utilise your smart phone for what it is.
The people who do get 2-3 days battery life why do you own a £300 phone and use it like a £10 nokia 1100?
A smart phone has so many features for a reason - they are to be used.
My day to day use on Juwe's Smart Edition v4.3.1 XWJVH Based On Official 2.3.3*
3G/H on
about 1 hour of calls
push email for three email accounts
live wall paper
a couple of widgets which download data every 3 hours
some gaming
approx 30-50 texts a day
whatsapp
liveprofile
1-2 hours music
automatic brightness
This sort of use will give me 10-12 hours battery life.
Can anyone who do claim heavy use and get 2-3 days battery life detail their use and set-up to justify claims of heavy use and make it clear to newbies what REALLY to expect from their smart phone.
Remember, this phone has an array of brilliant feature which have been made to be utilised.
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well said..
Oh, come on, how difficult is for people to understand this?. You have a device with a 1 GHz CPU, a 4" AMOLED screen, 3G, Wifi, bluetooth radios.. Everything uses power, the more things you use, the more power it takes.
Of course if you have the screen off, WiFi off, 3G data off, bluetooth off, no data sync, not make phone calls... the phone can last one week on standby.
If you're USING the phone, the standard battery will drop 20% every hour or so. I've seen the battery gone down to 10% in a few hours. Battery hogs are in approximate order:
- Screen (even on low brightness)
- 3G data traffic
- Wifi traffic (wifi ON but no traffic has low impact)
- GPS on
- GPU (3D games)
- Voice traffic (screen is off during calls, does not take much power)
Smart using the smartphone
3-4 days for me.
And no, I'm not using it as a Nokia 1100.
Have wifi turned on all the time so it automatically connects to home & work wifi when in range. I check the news every morning for about 10-15min @home when drinking my cafe and have a smoke before leave to work. Sync is ON, k-9 mail checking emails, GO Weather and other apps using data from time to time.
Couple of calls everyday, 5-10min total (I don't say stories on the phone).
I don't listen music from the phone (if I wanna do that I'll use the mp3 player which is built for that and can run 6-7h with a single AAA accu. Also I have a car radio and winamp on the work computer so why use the phone for such?)
Yes, it's a smartphone and I use it as a smartphone. Wonder if some users are as smart as their phone to use it properly.
as mentioned a few times before, for what the phone is capable of, amoled screen, wifi, gps, 3d gaming, mp3 player and so on. you can expect the battery to drain quick.
battery life dont bother me, ive always got a place to charge if needed, and i do abuse my phone, so its expected,
the makers are trying to cram all these goodies into a small compact phone, leaving not much room for a huge battery to power it all.
there are replacement batteries on ebay 3000Mah really big, and they come with the SGS back case to fit it, it doesnt look too bad really. and if battery is a big issue for you, invest in one. they are not too expensive and will give you juice when its really needed.
probably would work out cheaper than paying for apps to monitor and improve battery life....
if the SGS came with a battery the size of your fist, you would be complaining at that too.... even if it lasted a month on 1 charge lol
EDIT: 3500mah battery - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3500MAH-EXTRE...ltDomain_3&hash=item2eb38b347a#ht_2326wt_1139
Thanks